Solomonster Reacts To Hulk Hogan's BS Comments About Starrcade 97 (A&E's nWo Biography) 

didn't have a tan? Sting was supposed to be dwelling in the darkness, stalking the nWo from the rafters. Why on Earth would he have a tan? Sting not having a tan actually makes sense.

So after YEARS of LIES Eric finally tells the TRUTH which many already knew. That Starrcade 97's main event was a complete ish show because of Hogan's ego. SMFH

This wasn't the moment that killed WCW, but it was a clear sign of things to come.

It's unbelievable how much red hot momentum they had leading up to starrcade 97 and completely fucked it up.

The 2 biggest casualties of that night were Sting and Bret. They were never the same afterwards all because of hogan's f'ing ego.

Sting's lack of ego has always impressed me. You don't see that often.

Damn Hogan really was like a nightmare backstage in WCW. That's a Dark Side of the Ring worthy Episode

Hulk doesn’t even think he’s lying. He genuinely believes in what he’s saying even if it’s 100% false. He’s the most unreliable narrator in wrestling history.

“YOU F THE FINISH OVER A TAN IS THIS REAL!!???” -Conrad Thompson That summarizes southern and hispanic wrestling fans hatred for Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff

the moment "that doesn't work for me BROTHER!!" ultimately spelled the beginning of the end for WCW. It was sped up even further January 19, 1998, the day Austin confronted Tyson, I knew even at 9 years old, WCW was done.

When Bischoff first talked about this on 83 weeks, he really protected Hogan. I'm glad to see he's finally starting to hint at what everyone knows happened.

Have Hogan go for the leg drop. Sting catches it and maneuvers into the Scorpion Deathlock, Hogan submits. The perfect ending in every way. Oh wait...that doesn't work for Hogan, brother.

5:27 yeah, Hogan never HAD to use his creative control clause when Bischoff ran the show-Bischoff made sure every week revolves around Hogan

To anyone who had actively watched the product from the late 80’s to the early to mid 90’s, Starcade 97 is easily the biggest nail in the coffin of WCW. Fumbled the crowning of what was WCW’s “people’s champion” and the debut of Bret Hart in one bad finish.

When it comes to Hogan, I’m waiting for the day when someone actually calls him out on his bullshit to his face. That would be glorious.

You almost feel sorry for Hogan, he keeps trying to protect his legacy by lying about anything that paints him in a negative light without realizing how easy it is to see how full of it he is.

I think because this was done under WWE, Eric basically said, I’m ready to tell the truth. He’s hidden Hogan’s BS for so long, he knows his reputation has taken hit after hit after hit. Now if Hulk wants to sue, it will be WWE/A&E. I wonder if Hulk and Eric are still good? Or maybe Eric is just like, I can’t stand keeping up this lie.

The way the Sting-Hogan match was booked at Starrcade was like Hogan was the baby face and getting screwed by Bret at the end. I get the heel dominates and the baby face mounts the big comeback at the end but this match (and especially the SuperBrawl match) was overkill. It felt like Sting couldn’t land a real blow on Hogan and needed outside assistance to beat Hogan

This is why I refuse to listen to anything Eric or Hulk have to say about this match now. They have changed their story about 5 times. But yet Eric can't help but blame everyone but himself

Nothing about this has ever made sense. 1. They thought Sting looked frail, like he hadn't worked out. Even giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming that's true, it's not like the day of Starrcade was the first time they actually saw him in months. They would have seen him during the go-home Nitro -- and several times before that. If he looked frail at Starrcade, they would have known that before the day of the show. And if he looked frail on Nitro, he wasn't going to bulk up and look great 6 days later. Conversely, if he looked great on Nitro, he wasn't going to look completely weak 6 days later. 2. Where Sting screwed up, the "fast" count was obviously not fast. But he also made no efforts to kick out. If they were doing the fast count finish, Sting should have at least gotten his shoulders up before a normal three-count would have been counted. He didn't. It would be kind of like if I raced Usain Bolt in the 100-meter dash and he started early. Yes, he started early. But he'd also win by such a margin that it wouldn't really have mattered. 3. The craziest part about this, they had Hogan and Sting wrestle the next night on Nitro. The only play there is to have Sting beat up Hogan and pin him clean. Instead, they did another screwy finish. They pushed it until SuperBrawl in February when...they gave Sting the title. Like, if that was gonna be the end result, they should have done it at Starrcade. Finally, by this point, Hogan had a reputation for being sure all eyes were on him, no matter what. At the end of Wrestlemania 4, he was in the ring with Macho Man and Elizabeth, celebrating harder than either of him. At the end of Wrestlemania 6, he did everything he could to be sure the attention was on him, not the Ultimate Warrior (and he's even acknowledged that). Knowing that, it's really hard to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe anything that paints him in a positive light.

Hogan could write a book with how many lies he’s told

My favourite Hulk Hogan lie to this day is that he once wrestled for *400 days in a year* because of the time difference between the US and Japan. 😂😂😂

I’ll never forget Conrad Thompson’s reaction to Bischoff’s tan explanation.

I just started watching wrestling in 97, thanks in no small part to the WCW/NWO storyline. Solomonster, you touched on point I hear a few people talk about: how confusing it was to see Hogan take 90% of the match. I was a young kid and didn’t know how much of wrestling was real. Naturally, I was dumbfounded when Sting, who had been beating up the entire NWO, including Hogan ,by himself, couldn’t just whoop Hogan in a matter of minutes. I said it before on other videos, but Sting was tan enough compared to your average person. He just wasn’t the shade of old beaten leather that Hulk Hogan was.

Not only was the count not fast but Hogan didn't even TAP, he just nodded. He didn't even have the decency to give Sting a TAP. This was a clusterf***.

As a Sting guy, I am a bit biased, but Hulk whispering to Nick Patrick to count slow is very believable. Out of shape... Sting still had a ridiculous vertical leap and nearly flew out of the ring on his Stinger Splash.

I would love to take a trip into Hulk's mind just to see what the fuck I'm going to find there.

So the entire finish of Starcade 97 was changed cause of Hogan wanting a normal count, and Sting not having a tan and good physique now I wonder why WCW went the drain after that show slowly but surely geez.

25 years later and they still can't get their story straight 🤦🏾‍♀️

So a performer doesn't tan and is a few lbs lighter and that is grounds to go into business for yourself? Well, by WCW and Hogan standards it is. It is absolutely insulting to the fans intelligence for that and the ending to this match. This really was the beginning of the end of WCW. Pathetic!

Remember on Seinfeld when George Costanza said "It's not a lie if you believe it"? I really think Hogan lives by that motto and believes all his own bs.

Hogan took 95% of that match and pretty much the same amount the next night on nitro.

In one of the A&E shows Hogan said he always wanted to turn heel which is a bold lie. Eric Bischoff had to convince Hogan at last minute to turn heel at Bash At The Beach 1996

LMFAO I bet this is one of Hulk Hogan's Many Many Many Lies this is going to be good 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The comment about Bret Hart having war flashbacks to The Screwjob and thinking Nick Patrick was Earl got a laugh out of me, especially because it reminded me of Patrick's hilarious 'arms flailing' sell of that punch.

How could Sting have a tan when he spent all of his time in the rafters?

The advertisements for the show had Hogan speaking. That should have told you he was going to lie about something. Hell, probably many things.

Hearing this along with the stories that have been told over the years it almost seems like when it came to Sting, Hogan just never cared at all to put him over no matter how big of a star Sting was compared to Hogan he always needed a screw job finish or something ludicrous to satisfy his ego hence this match and then their match that was supposed to happen at Halloween Havoc in ‘99 where Hogan just laid down and let Sting get the win it’s ridiculous how full of shit Hogan really is

How about the finger poke of Doom. Was basically the nail in the coffin for WCW

I miss the Monday Night War Era.

Bischoff also lied and said Hogan never used the creative control. Don't forget though, Elvis was a fan of Hogan. lol

Hulk Hogan has told so many lies for so many years. Cant believe a word out of his mouth.

Sting - and WCW fans - were totally screwed over on this one. He looked just fine - but he did himself no favours by breaking character after the match. Hogan was just an asshole.

It’s hard for Eric to book a match, when Hogan had creative control and could just say “that doesn’t work for me brother” and hold Nitro or the PPV hostage.

if the match plays out exactly like it did but hogan misses leg drop and sting submits him, its the happy ending despite the lame match

When Bischoff pulls the “Hogan didn’t use the creative control card” it’s always a spin job. He means he didn’t LEGALLY pull the creative control card and need to bring in his lawyer. And he didn’t need too because Bischoff catered to Hogans every whim. It’s bullshit.

You can't trust Hogan, Bischoff, Patrick, Nash or Hall. Sting and Hart I would believe way more. Kevin is right you can't give anyone creative control. If Sting did show up with the attitude he didn't care I certainly can't completly fault him. Because all that build up then to have Luger beat Hogan for the championship was dumb, should have never happened in the first place. Let's face it Eric was going to do anything Hogan wanted. He was Hulk Hogan after all, now if Eric admitted that would be a lot more acceptable.

That kick out story made me stop and repay attention and go "whattttt did he say?!!"

I think Nick Patrick recently watched the match with Bischoff and Conrad but typical Conrad he puts it behind a pay wall

WrestleMania Battle Of The Liars: Hulk Hogan Vs Steven Seagal!

And then Sting had to give the belt back on Thunder which was bs. Has Bret Hart ever been asked about the finish the match?

The first nail in the coffin for WCW

This began the slow bleed...

I just came up with a simple finish that could've worked just fine. Hogan irishwhips Sting into the ref, gets the big boot, leg drop. No ref. Bret comes out to help, revives the ref in time for Sting to recover and get the scorpion death drop. Ref counts to 3. There. That's all you need to do. Bischoff gives himself an out if the crowd doesn't accept Sting as the champion, Hogan doesn't look weak, and Bret can still get some jabs in at WWE about bad officiating. Bret tried his best, he didn't intend to screw over Hogan. If the crowd doesn't accept Sting, just have Hogan beat him at Superbrawl.

Bischoff was worried about making Hogan mad. Also, it's possible Patrick just messed up the count, it's possible he doesn't want to admit he screwed up. However, it all falls on Hogan and Bischoff. Hogan changing things and confusing everyone caused all this because like you said, he was selfish, and it's Bischoff's fault for not saying no, we're doing this.

One thing I want to take issue with - the kick-out makes sense because then Sting can more credibly argue the count was fast. If anything, the fast-count finish doesn't work unless Sting attempts to kick out. Otherwise, it's a straight pinfall, albeit a fast one. Otherwise, I think we've pretty much established a broad framework of what happened: - Nick Patrick, whom I believe over everyone else, says he first spoke with Eric Bischoff, who told him to do a normal count. This tells me, at that time, they'd decided to have Hogan pin Sting 100% clean. - When Hogan spoke with Patrick, he told him to count nice and slow. - Then when Patrick spoke with Sting, he was told to "rapid-fire" the count. According to the A&E Biography, Bischoff convinced Hogan to put Sting over, except with a fast count to force a restart of the match. So it makes sense the last person Patrick spoke to told him to do a fast count, since it seems they decided upon it fairly late in the day. The idea Hogan initially insisted upon not jobbing to Sting at all, at the biggest PPV in company history, is the greatest revelation of all. Imagine if that's the finish we got and how much worse things would've been. Ironically, Conrad Thompson argued that would've been the better alternative, though I disagree. On the other hand, Bischoff had never revealed that Hogan initially insisted upon pinning Sting clean, which calls into question his credibility. As for Hogan, what a snake.

With Sting essentially being my favorite wrestler ever, this annoys the hell out of me. As a young teenager, I thought to myself "Yea, Sting won, and I'm happy, but he got beat fairly though...why was Bret Hart angry?" These were my literal thoughts as a 13 year old watching. Most of the people at school who were fans (there were a lot) thought the same thing: A well-built angle with a twilight zone type of finish. All because of a God damn tan...

All that build up ending in a PPV that felt like just any other mediocre episode of Nitro with yet another screwjob finish

Nobody..even them can make sense of the WCW debacles. Oh brother...brother.

In Eric's defense, he has always said Hogan didn't think Sting was in shape. The only new thing is him saying Hogan used creative control.

Hulk Hogan has no problem putting over people who could snap him in half (Lex Luger, Goldberg, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle)

This really was the moment that WCW lost their grip on the Monday Night Wars. Starrcade was on 12/28/97 and the WWF had regained the ratings advantage by April (after Wrestlemania 14 - Austin era begins 03/29/98.) I know they put the belt on Sting at SuperBrawl (02/22/98) but the damage was done. Later that year Sting became a member of the NWO Wolfpac (Ugh), they ruined Goldberg's run as champion, followed by the Fingerpoke of Doom (01/04/99), which was the final nail in the coffin. In one year WCW went from the top wrestling company in the world, printing money hand over fist to going out of business two years later. Incredible.

This is worse then the tape, Hulk betrayed the boys by not putting sting over the right way, was so easy he went out of his way to f it up.

It ruined Sting and Bret Hart at the same time in one night

this sounds like bischoff and hogan's problem. i have a hard time believing sting would screw this up.

Anybody who read Eric's book gratefull. Would know that Eric gushes with love for all things Hulk Hogan. To the point of gringing. This book is enough proof why Hogan had so much power in WCW. Bichoff was a bloody groupie over Hogan.

*I would never believe anything that comes out of Hulk Hogan or Eric Bischoff’s mouth. They are the two biggest liars in the wrestling industry.*

What should've been the easiest finish in wrestling history turned into an absolute mess. Hulk Hogan should've gotten kicked in the stomach, Scorpion Death Drop, Sting pins Hogan clean for the 1-2-3. Instead, a year long buildup was trashed. Hogan didn't even need the WCW title because he didn't do anything with the title. He didn't elevate it, make it feel like it was the most important belt in all of wrestling-the title, to him, was just a shiny toy he got to show off. An absolute train wreck. Terrible end to what should've been the greatest conclusion to wrestling's best storyline.

Getting Hogan to take a clean loss challenge= IMPOSSIBLE

When I was in high school I would say don’t mention Hulk Hogan to me because I knew about stuff like this and the casual fans always mentioned him to me because they didn’t.

That match was a total mess. The story of the match was Sting was supposed to get screwed, but it made it looked like Hogan got screwed when the referee did a slow count, and Sting didn't kick out of it. Worst of all, it made Bret Hart looked stupid and confused. And how the match ended, Hogan didn't tap out, or say "I quit," but Bret told them to ring the bell, similar to the Montreal Screwjob where Vince McMahon yelled at the ring announcer to ring the bell when HBK locked Bret in a sharpshooter. Then the next night on Nitro, Bischoff had to fix the angle by making Hogan got screwed by Bret Hart. Yes, Hogan sabotaged the match for his own selfish ego. Hogan will never admit to his stupidity, just like the Bash at the Beach 2000 incident.

I don’t know why people are surprised or angered by this. Honestly, those of us old enough to remember seeing or hearing about this live as it happened, have long since suspected that Hogan politicked or exercised his “creative control” contract clause his to have the finish changed to make himself look good, because he didn’t wanna lose to Sting clean, despite it making complete and total sense to do so. Top guys in pro wrestling have always played politics. Even some of your favorites, even some of the all time greats. That’s how they continued to keep their top spot for so long.

When it comes to Hulk Hogan, you take the whole package with this man. On one hand, if it weren't for Hulk Hogan, neither WWE nor WCW would have reached the heights that they did. Without Hogan, there never would have been an nWo or WrestleMania. But on the other hand, Hulk Hogan also was one of the key factors that ultimately led to WCW's demise. Plus, all of the people that Hogan screwed over, like Bret Hart and so many others. It's not one extreme with Hogan or the other. You take the whole package.

The night THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME BRUTHER was born

I never cared for Hogan. Even as a kid, who knew wrestling was 'fake', I could see how selfish he was. He never did what was best for the business.

Not only Sting was screwed and his momentum vanished because of that silly finish, but also Bret Hart was made look like an idiot in his first night with WCW since he made restart the match after the finish was fair and square, so he looked like the heel in that story. I think it was all an Hulk Hogan power move to stop the 2 hottest acts the company had going from overshadowing him and the NWO. Just think about the fact that Bret was randomly put into the Zbyzsko Bischoff dynamic rather than immediatamente launched into the main event scene despite being by far the most interesting man in all of pro wrestling at that point. It would have been like AEW having Cm Punk paired with Daniel García and the 2.0 after he debuted from his 7 yrs hiatus...Oh yeah, that happened too 😂

So it wasn't over tan, and it's what fans had theorized about Hogan exercising his creative control clause

And now we have Nick Patrick saying that hogan told him to count slow. And sting said to count fast. And bischoff said to count normal. And he followed bischoff because that’s who signs his checks. 🤦🏻‍♂️

If it was a championship title for liars. Hogan would definitely be a 16 time champion in that.

That match was such a let down. Seems like every wcw main event after that had a screwy finish.

Eric also said that this was the first time Hulk ever used or even threatened to use his "creative control". I've heard that same bs about the bash at the beach 2000 match against Jeff Jarrett. That hulk up to that point had never even threatened to use his creative control. He's so full of shit.

I’d have more respect for hogan if he just said he was looking out for himself brother

This match had Hogans fingerprints all over it. It's like he looked at WM9 and said "I can top that, brother."

Yet these same fans want WWE to sabotage Cody's title win at Mania by shoehorning Zayn into it

The only outcome that made sense was Sting winning clean…. I cant stand hogan

Why would a guy hanging out in the rafters, have a tan though....yeah. Also not a single fan cares. At least watch the movie the character is based off of... Hogan is pathological in his lies, and might be psycho path. He's also not dumb.

Alexa, play "WHY YOU ALWAYS LYIN'?"

It wasn’t Starrcade 97, or even Goldberg losing or even the Finger poke of DOOOOM. WCW was still doing 4’s in the ratings until march 99, it was WWF having a more edgier brand that appealed more to the casual audience which made up 90% of the audience at the time . WCW’s true fan base was the ratings in the last twelve months of its existence much like WWF at the time chalking up 4/5/6’s in the ratings in the 90’s but getting 000’s numbers for PPV’s . The millions were casual viewers and the 000’s were the die hards who bought the PPV’s

I still think to this day hogan sabotage the match and made sting look like a fool as well as Bret hart to steal the spotlight from him. Starrcade 97 had many problems Nash and Konnan Raven didn't show up matches needed to be change both Hogan and Bischoff are so full of them selfs when it comes to this topic.

I was hoping this one would go up as it's own video solo lol

What a mess this was and it's still laughable.

U know. The shit u say about hogan is so funny. I legit needed a good laugh. Thanks solomonster 💯😂💀

Well...Hogan is the same guy who nearly jeopardized the Undertaker's career.

I remember watching & thinking,"this is Brett's gimmick"? He'll come down every 8th match when there's a clean finish & cry foul?

Isn't it beyond ironic that both blade runners "weren't ready brother". Hogan can't be trusted with anything he says. Neither can bischoff, because he's too close to his lover, who's name is also hogan.

Even him losing the title clean twice on free TV is selfish. He would have never put them over on PPV.

I wouldn’t believe anything Hogan said even if his tongue was notarized.

Why is anyone surprised about Hulks spin? Not only did they screw Sting, but at the time they had arguably the hottest free agent at the time and made him a referee for the match. If you watch the Nitro before Starcade that year Bret Hart is so gobsmacked his exact words were . Is this what you want? You’re sure about this you want me to be a referee?

Listen, Hulk is a Real American! He fights for the rights of every man😉 Seriously though, I appreciate what he did for the business but he's lost ALL credibility Year's ago.. what a waist BROTHER.. Also, that Fn John 3:16 shirt he had on during the A&E episode was literally nauseating..

Hogan screwed the finish! He got into Patricks' ear and Erics' ear, or was that his nose up Hogan's ass!? "That don't work for me, brother!"