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Something Very Serious is Wrong with this 2010 Acura RL! What did the CAR WIZARD find??? 

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What does the CAR WIZARD 🧙‍♂️ find on this 2010 Acura RL SH-AWD!
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@CarWizard
@CarWizard 3 года назад
Keep in mind, as clearly stated in the video. Customer wanted NEW or REMAN ONLY. Refused used engines whatsoever, regardless of miles, or money savings. You guys keep reccomending used engines. Its not your car. Customer refuses used engines.
@stewartstarling2309
@stewartstarling2309 3 года назад
I love my Acura RDX I only use OEM AND NEW. Used is just going to make me cry later.
@kennethfromkin6141
@kennethfromkin6141 3 года назад
I would imagine that if he was presented with an option for a used engine with 40K miles to match the rest of his car, and if the price was thousands less, he'd go for that -- but as you say, it's his car and his decision. Interesting that they don't offer replacement engines. Nice video.
@jjmarz1001
@jjmarz1001 3 года назад
Picky customer for a guy that can't keep oil in his engine.
@jamalpeoples3736
@jamalpeoples3736 3 года назад
@@kennethfromkin6141 you imagine what you want. Not what he wants. His dime.
@jamalpeoples3736
@jamalpeoples3736 3 года назад
@@jjmarz1001 it's his money money. He gets to be picky. Not your cash. He can do whatever he wants with his money. He has it, he spends it. Seems simple to me.
@sleve_mcdichael_
@sleve_mcdichael_ 3 года назад
"That engine is hardly broken in". Yup. It's broken completely in.
@battosaijenkins946
@battosaijenkins946 3 года назад
@Car Wizard, hey man I don't want to sound too 'ricey' but couldn't you swap out for a K20 engine from Japan? They have some really incredible low mileage and the price is considerably less than 7 thousand dollars no?
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww 3 года назад
@@battosaijenkins946 Turbo K swap RL? Spend $5k and have much more fun!
@jorgey4
@jorgey4 3 года назад
@@battosaijenkins946 i was wondering about that. they do do it in Japan where you have to swap in a new motor after x time and they don't put that many miles on it, but i guess it's the stigma of it being a used engine or the shipping is a real killer.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 3 года назад
@@jorgey4 Japan has all sorts of rules / incentives to make sure people buy a new car every five years or so. The old cars get exported to places like New Zealand or scrapped.
@dukeduke6453
@dukeduke6453 3 года назад
Keep in mind, as clearly stated in the video. Customer wanted NEW or REMAN ONLY. Refused used engines whatsoever, regardless of miles, or money savings. You guys keep reccomending used engines. Its not your car. Customer refuses used engines.
@joevelderman2504
@joevelderman2504 3 года назад
I’ve got a 2010 RL with 46k miles...also in pristine condition. I can absolutely understand wanting this poor customer’s heartbreak. I’d probably spend $7k to do the same thing.
@andrefecteau
@andrefecteau 3 года назад
the old 3.0 Legends were well lengendary...
@GasMaskReacts
@GasMaskReacts Год назад
there is no "probably" involved. it's worth the ticket without question.
@mmvjohnson5
@mmvjohnson5 Год назад
Yeah it’s definitely worth it
@Ryguyreviews706
@Ryguyreviews706 3 месяца назад
46,000 mi what a garage baby
@lGoodView4u
@lGoodView4u 3 года назад
If the oil light comes on, pull over. Don't keep driving like this guy did.
@izalman
@izalman 3 года назад
Oil light coming on... too damn late to stop the engine... damage has been done.
@tyrocksalot
@tyrocksalot 3 года назад
@Brett Collins I miss those
@Cheepchipsable
@Cheepchipsable 3 года назад
Amazing how many people don't know this.
@peterbrown6224
@peterbrown6224 3 года назад
My girlfriend kept driving in my Triumph Stag. That hurt.
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 3 года назад
@@izalman too late when that happens. He obviously missed a few oil changes and burnt what was left. Oil pressure switches can't detect low oil pressure The engine either has oil pressure, or it doesn't . When there is so little oil in the engine, and the oil pump is suckibg all it can to lubricate/ cool the head, the lack of oil in the bottom end will quickly start roasting the bottom end bearings.
@jeffreylong5660
@jeffreylong5660 3 года назад
This engine was recalled for oiling issues. I had my rebuilt by the dealer free of charge at 100k miles
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
Have you got the recall done? I have a '09 TL with the consumption issue. I have to add a half quart every 1,000 miles. I nervous about the rebuild.
@jeffreylong5660
@jeffreylong5660 3 года назад
@@petegalicki7789 i did. It fixed the issue. Get it done by the dealership
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
Thank you Jeffrey. I am at 130,000. I have been biting my teeth about it.
@jeffreylong5660
@jeffreylong5660 3 года назад
@@petegalicki7789 they may not cover it now though. My dealer fought for mine though. It can't hurt to check
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
I still have the letter. Its only maybe 5 months old. I should contact the dealer. I truly appreciate your feedback. After seeing the Wizards video I'm concerned. But still don't trust the repair. I know of a horror story about dealer rebuild. Thank you Jeffrey. P.S. I love my TL.
@xFlared
@xFlared 3 года назад
The owner is probably in love with this car. I know the feeling.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 года назад
Bro I almost got a 2009 Acura TSX black on black. It had 200k miles and new tires. Well-maintained. This car is way more car. The TSX has a K20. Did you watch the video? Did you see the aluminum front control arms? The dual composite drive shafts? Leather interior. Super low miles. on and on. It is worth at least 13-15k especially given internet marketing.
@picklejay7822
@picklejay7822 3 года назад
@@jamesmedina2062 k24
@gb8641
@gb8641 3 года назад
In love with an Acura? 🤔
@randomyoutubeaccount6906
@randomyoutubeaccount6906 3 года назад
@@gb8641 Yes. For the same reason people fall in love with Hondas only MY J35 has Forged Rods, Billet crank and light forged Pistons stock. But I had the 3.5 :) anyways i also have double wishbones and multilink, my steering is electric :( but everything else is to love. Imagine a BMW that lasts 3x as long
@gb8641
@gb8641 3 года назад
@@randomyoutubeaccount6906 I get the love for Japanese engineering, just not a big fan of Acura’s :). Kinda ZzzzZzzZzzz to me 🤷🏼‍♂️
@kitdinker
@kitdinker 3 года назад
If it was my car, I'd see about the possibilities of putting the widely available 3.5 in it.
@jeffreylong5660
@jeffreylong5660 3 года назад
He would lose 50 horsepower though
@sergeihanush2262
@sergeihanush2262 3 года назад
a bunch of engines can be imported from Japan,Russia.
@aaronshensky9385
@aaronshensky9385 3 года назад
@@sergeihanush2262 at what cost?
@sergeihanush2262
@sergeihanush2262 3 года назад
@@aaronshensky9385 2000 engine in Vladivostok, plus probably a 1000 for delivery.
@sergeihanush2262
@sergeihanush2262 3 года назад
@Duncan Macleod lkq has one engine with 137k miles
@broomad
@broomad 3 года назад
In the UK, this model is called a Honda Legend - owned 5 and they were all brilliant family cars
@broomad
@broomad 3 года назад
Very very unusual for a 3.5 or 3.7 to go wrong. We only had the 3.5 in the UK.
@modernconflict9888
@modernconflict9888 3 года назад
owner ran it low on oil unfortunatly
@taylorb7191
@taylorb7191 3 года назад
I miss the old Acura Legend in the US
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
@@modernconflict9888 Oh no. :(
@Craig-wp3pz
@Craig-wp3pz 3 года назад
Miss the old shape Leg-ends, decent car, bet the manual was great, only ever driven slushbox versions :-(
@rickyautomotive8048
@rickyautomotive8048 3 года назад
I experienced the exact same issue with my 3.7 liter Acura MDX. Was under extended warranty and luckily the dealer found a salvaged 3.7 liter replacement. It happened in 2019. I am almost certain the MDX 3.7 litter will also fit this Acura RL. Hope this info helps someone out there.
@Sam_Eassa
@Sam_Eassa 3 года назад
If this was my car, I wouldn't hesitate to fix it. My big worry would be how good a job will the rebuilders do?
@computerdeals
@computerdeals 3 года назад
Sure... But only if you got 7k spare laying around.
@Sam_Eassa
@Sam_Eassa 3 года назад
@@computerdeals What is the alternative? I'd rather take out a 7K loan than a 30k+ new car loan to get something in this condition.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 года назад
Yup, that's the fear.
@louiswilliamhicks
@louiswilliamhicks 3 года назад
@@lorencooper6043 You are the owner? I saw you make a couple of comments? If they are going to do that, are you having the car shipped back to that dealer? That would be great news. You should write a comment and have the Car Wizard "pin" it to the top so people can follow your progress.
@lorencooper6043
@lorencooper6043 3 года назад
@@louiswilliamhicks yep! I’ll definitely keep you posted on it! I’ll keep the wizard posted on it too
@davidbarnsley8486
@davidbarnsley8486 3 года назад
It would be so good to actually see it being pulled apart and actually see what has died To cause the knocking 😍😍👍👍
@bigpjohnson
@bigpjohnson 3 года назад
I sure hope they'll do a video on it!
@alfamontydog
@alfamontydog 3 года назад
I'm retired now,but when I still had my shop I used to explain to customers the difference between oi pressure and level,I would compare oil pressure to blood pressure,If your blood pressure is zero,you die pretty quick,the same with an engine,zero oil pressure means a quick death unless you immediately turn off the key and coast to the side of the road,you may be lucky and save the engine from major damage.---People don't know the difference between oil level and oil pressure,they think that when the oil light comes on that they have to add oil.
@Mitsubeasty1
@Mitsubeasty1 3 года назад
Yes, most definitely, I’d be willing to bet it was due to lack of use or improper maintenance. 1. Oil changes/checking the level was being based on mileage. It could’ve had 2,500 miles since the last change but if it had been a year or two the oil would’ve degraded to the point that it failed to protect the delicate components. 2. Seals had deteriorated.
@joedirt7838
@joedirt7838 3 года назад
thats def a rod knocking 100% that noise is always easy to verify
@supersabrosinho
@supersabrosinho 2 года назад
These 3.7s had a recall for faulty piston design. I work on em every day.
@Jeremy_95531
@Jeremy_95531 3 года назад
I have a 2005 RL and the torque vectoring all wheel drive is amazing. It handles beautifully and is super quick. Very fun car. I call her Sleeper Beast LoL. Looks pretty average, but faster and better handling than anything in it's class!
@kaiezesi6630
@kaiezesi6630 Год назад
Yessir! My thoughts exactly with my 05!
@someone28
@someone28 3 года назад
I drove a brand new MDX that got rodnock within the first 3 miles. They found it was a manufacturing defect and gave me 10k off the price I paid for my troubles.
@B0xlife1
@B0xlife1 3 года назад
Lmfaoooo I could only IMAGINE you're face after paying for it and driving it home and all of a sudden ride knock engine toast. I'd be FURIOUS. so did they give you a different mdx or did you keep that one, get the new engine and the 10k back in cash?
@UnrealOG137
@UnrealOG137 3 года назад
That's what I would expect. If a car with 3 miles develops rod knock, they better give me a new engine.
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 3 года назад
Wow only 3 miles . atleast you saved 10 k
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 года назад
what year?
@garykong7597
@garykong7597 3 года назад
I want to say this RL is actually pretty rare, they don't sell many RL in general, especially this generation towards the end
@Corkoth55
@Corkoth55 3 года назад
No doubt! I have 2012 TL 3.7 and I love that ride. But this one looks sweet. Never seen RL with this front design on the road..?? Looks really. Nice.
@garykong7597
@garykong7597 3 года назад
@@Corkoth55 I have a 05 TL, with RLX being discontinued, I'm thinking of getting a used RLX hybrid (if good price lol), really want to try that SHAWD thing
@alecedmisten7639
@alecedmisten7639 3 года назад
I have a 2010 RL I just picked up a few months ago from its original owner. I like the car a lot but it gets pretty terrible gas mileage
@lordchango7949
@lordchango7949 3 года назад
@@alecedmisten7639 I'd suggest checking the oil level periodically, been seeing they have oil consumption issues apparently. That's probably how this one got low on oil and ended up getting rod knock
@Corkoth55
@Corkoth55 3 года назад
@@garykong7597 the RLX sport hybrid looks cool as hell
@GameTechCreations
@GameTechCreations 3 года назад
I have an Acura MDX with a similar engine, and I do all the work on it myself. Here's a tip: The low frequency of the sound indicates that the problem is in the valve train, since cam shafts rotate at half the speed of the crank shaft. If there's no cross contamination between coolant and oil (and you showed no leaks of either), then the block is probably okay. So they haven't thrown a rod. Also, since it starts up, that also indicates no damage to the block. Since that seems to be the case, remove the valve covers and inspect for damage in the variable valve timing and cam shafts. If no damage is visible, drop the engine and remove the cylinder heads. Most likely the damage will be somewhere in the valve train, but this will also allow you to inspect the block very thoroughly. Repair/replacement of cylinder heads or valve gear is certainly better and lower cost than a new engine.
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 Год назад
An even better tip is; DONT BUY EXPENSIVE CARS! They’re just disposable status symbols. Find yourself a good cheap car that you CAN afford to repair or replace if they go tits up! (A broken-down Lamborghini Murceliago sitting in your garage rotting away is not impressing anybody)
@isnowyazn
@isnowyazn Год назад
@@chrismayer3919hat’s debatable. There’s pricier cars that are priced the way they are. A good example of this is the inflated price of older sports/performance cars that cost tens of thousands, even though they’re well over the 90-100k+ mileage range. People know those cars are reliable, and most do the math to calculate how much it might cost if things aren’t the way they are when they decide to settle on buying the car (since other options might not be able now or even later). But, of course, this is coming from an average car enthusiast, and not some millionaire who buys the top trim level Ferrari with like every practical available option, and doesn’t even know how typical oil changes work, or how a typical dual clutch transmission operates. I, myself, have bought a semi-unique car, knowing parts and whatnot are semi-hard to come by. This means that I should be ready to pay for parts and do certain repairs if I decide to drive it hard and break things on the car. I’m most likely going to even have a whole donor car on the side if I can help it. This will pretty much alleviate most to all of the issues I might encounter, on a rather basic level. But hey, that’s just my particular take on it. Some people just buy cheap(er) cars and have the crappiest luck. I suggested someone to get a 1998 Toyota Camry V6 sedan with only 98k miles, yet they decided to opt for a 2013 Ford Fiesta base model sedan. Needless to say, the car didn’t last more than a year or two, esp with lack of maintenance.
@georgemenzies9258
@georgemenzies9258 5 месяцев назад
Some shops prefer to cover themselves on these things and provide a limited warranty.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL 3 года назад
The transmission is at the front of the car on these, with a drive to the rear axle. The rear differential has a planetary gear set attached that can overdrive the rear axle about 5% faster than the front axle in some situations. This was done in order to make the rear torque-vectoring system work better. This car does not have a rear transaxle, just an extra overdrive.
@MrPaige222
@MrPaige222 3 года назад
Then why does it say ATF? a differential uses heavy gear oil......
@robbym3542
@robbym3542 3 года назад
@@MrPaige222 Acura used ATF for the rear diff.
@remasher
@remasher 3 года назад
4WD systems can be really complex.
@edwardmyers1746
@edwardmyers1746 3 года назад
@@MrPaige222 they used in some cases the same fluid in both transmission and differential, a planet gearset in the rear diff would for sure support the need for atf regardless of a transmission or not
@swingersonian
@swingersonian 3 года назад
I have no idea--I had just heard of rear transmissions 5-6 years ago, but dude that is a HUGE differential if there is no transmission back there.
@rogerpritchard
@rogerpritchard 3 года назад
I've had 3 honda legends over 10 years. Brilliant cars, slightly expensive on fuel, but totally and utterly reliable and well built. More reliable than a Rolls or Bentley. Mechanics who serviced them always comment on how outstanding these Honda engines are. This Acura definitely deserves to be saved.
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 2 года назад
Is there many Legends in Thailand?
@sf49ersjshark2
@sf49ersjshark2 Год назад
Beautiful car as well.
@rogerpritchard
@rogerpritchard Год назад
@@Shabbe02 have only ever seen one in thailand.
@defennia
@defennia Год назад
Hey now, Those 1995 Bentley Brooklands are actually fairly reliable now, and they usually go for 10k to 13k
@rahimi4762
@rahimi4762 Год назад
@@defennia Yes Bentley and Rills only use the best stuff for parts. I’ve seen Rolls drive with water damage
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 2 года назад
(As of April 2022): New and used vehicle prices have gotten so far out of hand that $7 grand put into THAT particular car is no longer unreasonable. Great video - thanks.
@Bertuslouw76
@Bertuslouw76 3 года назад
The lesson here is be careful when buying a rare car. All cars will eventually need repairs and it will be hard to find spares to fix them.
@MrDuncl
@MrDuncl 3 года назад
It works both ways. I had a GM Vectra 2.2 which was really common as a Rep Mobile. At 99K miles and 13 years old the engine started making a noise like this Acura. Since "We Buy Any Car" reckoned it was worth £220 problem free, I took the £170 trade in offered against its replacement. Before trading it in I gather all the receipts and found I had spent £4000 in repairs and maintenance in the 12 years I owned it. Had it been a VX220, which uses the same engine, it would have been an entirely different situation.
@lancercool1992
@lancercool1992 3 года назад
wizard is too safe, not a bad thing and very responsible to his customers but the owner took it to the wrong mechanic some honda genius came up with some good engines 20 years ago so they decided to leeched off of it for the next 20+ years. a 3.7 from a 3rd gen TL will drop right in.
@jimkear6749
@jimkear6749 3 года назад
@@lancercool1992 3G TL-S was a 3.5, 4G had a 3.7 available.
@gsxellence
@gsxellence 3 года назад
Car isn't rare. Just didn't sell as great as the TL
@jimkear6749
@jimkear6749 3 года назад
The engine is rare. The RL was rare enough, but it didn't share enough parts with other models to justify an inventory of fresh spares. Rare cars, make for rare repairs, thus rare opportunity to sell get inventory off the shelf to pay for itself. Dusty parts, cost money for the guy that has them waiting. Profit is about turnover.
@TheTarrMan
@TheTarrMan 3 года назад
Personally something that nice, I'd rebuild THAT engine so it's all numbers matching. Edit : Good to see you're doing that.
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
Hey Wizard. Just to let you know that there is a recall on that motor for oil consumption. Its a complete dealer rebuild. Not sure if that vehicle applies to the recall but please look into it. It would be a great free fix for the customer.
@johnj949
@johnj949 3 года назад
Recall ended 2019
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
@@johnj949 ... Of course it did. My black cloud grows. Lol. Thank you for the update John. I sincerely appreciate it.
@johnj949
@johnj949 3 года назад
@@petegalicki7789 I switched to 10w30 since its thicker oil
@petegalicki7789
@petegalicki7789 3 года назад
@@johnj949 ... Not to heavy for this motor? Again, black cloud.
@johnj949
@johnj949 3 года назад
@@petegalicki7789 past 40k miles i use shell t5 10w30 no issues. Did every 2k miles the first year and all the carbon got cleaned out
@jameshall4385
@jameshall4385 3 года назад
so the son was driving it and he is going to school. it sounds like he was racing it around and over revved it and blew up daddy’s car
@nickloss
@nickloss 3 года назад
that's what I'm thinking, those cars are pretty quick so I wouldn't doubt the kid was beating on it
@LN997-i8x
@LN997-i8x 3 года назад
Yeah, that sounded suspect to me. There's got to be more to the story than he was told.
@lorencooper6043
@lorencooper6043 3 года назад
@@LN997-i8x I’ll tell you the story, it was only out here for five days until the engine blew up going to the car wizards. I was going from McPherson to Newton. Driving 78 in high gear until I saw a flashing check engine light then a low oil light. Pulled off in Hesston and I was hearing knocking. Called AAA to take it to the wizards and that’s where it sat for this video to be made
@MrDede2011
@MrDede2011 3 года назад
Also they don't like 87 gas
@davidl2438
@davidl2438 3 года назад
Nice car. I would fix it. We need not know how it happened, it just happened. Now we need to deal with the problem.
@ForzaUBS
@ForzaUBS 3 года назад
I love how in his mind everyone he talks to refers to him as car wizard
@rickpreciado6320
@rickpreciado6320 3 года назад
I have the same engine with almost 300k miles and still drives perfect
@tramainejennings1264
@tramainejennings1264 3 года назад
I'm at 20000
@seanguy9720
@seanguy9720 3 года назад
With that low of mileage for a 2010, I'm curious how often the oil was changed on it.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
Often, My friend would change it about every 3K miles.
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 3 года назад
@@adamgraham6265 Well it seems like that he should have looked at the oil level more often.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
@@Shabbe02 The oil level was full. The oil pump must have failed.
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 3 года назад
@@adamgraham6265 my bad
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
@@Shabbe02 np just updating the people as they have been wanting
@idbountyhunter
@idbountyhunter 3 года назад
I need a car wizard garage by me.
@whiterastaproductions1846
@whiterastaproductions1846 3 года назад
Me too then id maybe buy an Acura with this engine
@desertaliend_b9840
@desertaliend_b9840 3 года назад
Wouldn’t that be amazing if we start seeing Car Wizard franchises. Similar to jiffy Lube
@2packs4sure
@2packs4sure 3 года назад
Me too,, here in Houston there are a thousand incompetent unethical mechanics for every good one !!
@B0xlife1
@B0xlife1 3 года назад
@@2packs4sure Scotty Kilmer was in Houston. You missed out big time.
@2packs4sure
@2packs4sure 3 года назад
@@B0xlife1 I know, I discovered him of few years ago but haven't needed any work done. I have a low mileage 2002 F250 7.3 and it never breaks.
@laurat1129
@laurat1129 3 года назад
It's a California car...so that explains why it *otherwise* looks good.
@duarteandrade7880
@duarteandrade7880 3 года назад
Wizard, you can find a few 2009-2012 Acura RLs with that J37A2 for sale in IAAI, or copart, with around 60k miles. yes you'll have 20k miles more in the engine, but it will be as it came out of the factory. not a rebuilt aluminium engine, that had rod shavings running inside it... It will be cheaper, and you'll have an entire car for parts, if needed, that you can use to increase the profit margin in the job. 7k$ for a rebuilt engine, only if it comes with a 60k miles warranty, or something, that I doubt they'll be able to do. And even if it come with a warranty, do you really want to have to do the same job again before that car has over 200k miles?
@CarWizard
@CarWizard 3 года назад
Customer wants rebuilt or new only. Not used whatsoever
@Dani-it5sy
@Dani-it5sy 3 года назад
@@CarWizard Aha. So I was thinking there were no used engines either. Well if he is so stubborn that he doesn't even want a used engine with 27k on it than I don't feel so sorry for him anymore. Its his own choice..
@MaliciousSRT
@MaliciousSRT 3 года назад
Just find a really good Honda racer guy that builds engines, every town has them. You don't need to send it to Michigan.
@krassimirpetrov7131
@krassimirpetrov7131 3 года назад
Didn’t these 3.7L have a recall for piston rings or something ?
@atx-cvpi_99
@atx-cvpi_99 3 года назад
@@krassimirpetrov7131 It might have been a TSB.
@jakebrunner8948
@jakebrunner8948 3 года назад
" Transmission " in the back is actually the "super handling" differential. These cars handle very well due to this piece of mechanical wizardry (pun intended), they will actually overdrive the outside rear wheel under throttle in a corner and rotate the car in a turn. They really do have super handling, I had an '06 and it was amazing. Great show, first time I think I have ever heard you misidentify anything. Keep up the awesome content....
@michaelkappes8226
@michaelkappes8226 3 года назад
I just purchased a used '06 RL SH-AWD -- curious to know your experiences with it and what I should look out for
@EricAndonian
@EricAndonian 3 года назад
The SH-AWD is really, really amazing. It's the finest AWD system I've ever driven. The only vehicle I've driven with more grab is a military Humvee. Those are ANIMALS in 4x4.
@DoublePortalInc
@DoublePortalInc 3 года назад
Agreed, bought an 07 a couple months ago and i love it.
@lordchango7949
@lordchango7949 3 года назад
He called it a transaxle I believe. But yes, you are right. It'll send more power to the outside wheels on a hard corner. They borrowed this technology from the 5th gen Honda Prelude Type SH 😉 In this version, I'm sure they refined it and it probably works even better I'm sure. And on top of this added AWD to the mix!
@sayblaze
@sayblaze 3 года назад
I got RL 06 and the sh AWD keeps coming on and stops the cars for a sec
@bobb1897
@bobb1897 3 года назад
RE: Hoovie's Leisure VAN The VCR probably just has dirty heads from sitting so long. There's a good chance you can just run a good quality HEAD CLEANER thru a few times and it will work just fine. That or you can adjust the TRACKING... Take it from this old guy...! Love your show... good luck!
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 3 года назад
I'd love to hear what the Wizard or the rebuilder thinks really happened. My gut says it was run out of oil, except that the exterior of the engine is really nice and dry. EDIT: notes in the comments below say that the oil pump failed.
@supersabrosinho
@supersabrosinho 2 года назад
No. There was a recall for these 3.7s. poor piston/ring design leads to excessive oil consumption
@sb0337
@sb0337 Год назад
@@supersabrosinho i have Legend 3.7 for 13 years now and no recalls except of passenger airbag 250000 miles on it
@1winlock
@1winlock 3 года назад
Cant you get a used engine from Japan, they usually have 30000 miles or less?
@SVSky
@SVSky 3 года назад
Def should have some engines in Japan
@desertaliend_b9840
@desertaliend_b9840 3 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking.
@keithf8649
@keithf8649 3 года назад
This engine would be even rarer in Japan than in the States
@tim3172
@tim3172 3 года назад
I think we should overnight parts from Japan.
@banstaman
@banstaman 3 года назад
Most if not all J series engines are made in America for the North American market. Japan didn't have any J-series engined vehicles sold in their market at the level we do here so America is the best bet for finding a J37.
@rickb6694
@rickb6694 3 года назад
Prime example of the saying: "anything mechanical can fail at any time."
@mikebingham9700
@mikebingham9700 3 года назад
Exactly!
@nothing9271
@nothing9271 2 года назад
This makes me afraid of driving my car long distances
@pizzamon795
@pizzamon795 3 года назад
Maybe the dealership changed the oil and forgot to add the oil and then started it and let it run until he heard a noise and then added the oil. I dont know, just a guess
@stevec5000
@stevec5000 3 года назад
Maybe the owner never changed the oil.
@bigdm9349
@bigdm9349 3 года назад
@@stevec5000 seeing as how the owner has kept up with all the other maintenance, I do not believe that is the case at all.
@stevec5000
@stevec5000 3 года назад
@@bigdm9349 Not if it belonged to an old lady who kept it in the garage and obviously didn't drive it much. You obviously haven't worked on any women's cars! They generally drive them until something breaks, like this one! She might not have done any maintenance at all, especially since women usually don't even know that cars need oil.
@wanee8039
@wanee8039 3 года назад
Or the Car transporting driver took it for joyride Abusing the life out of it. I wonder how many miles he drove it after it was dropped off. I have a friend that bought a car 2012 or13 not sure of the yearPontiac G8 in 2019 with only26kon it and just like this car look like Brand new. And within A thousand miles it threw a rod.🤔. The Worst way though is having those companies that will drive your car to you. Don't do it you'll be sorry.
@cartere9981
@cartere9981 3 года назад
@@stevec5000 exactly old lady driven is not a good thing they don’t change their damn oil or if they do it’s after 15-20 thousand miles
@mds2465
@mds2465 3 года назад
Well that is really unfortunate. I wonder if Ericthecarguy has ever run into this issue before. He was a Honda master technician and worked at multiple Acura dealerships for many years. I think it's worth $7k to fix this car as expensive as it is for a car with such low mileage and given the immaculate condition that it's in for it's age this one is worth saving!
@Hotlog69
@Hotlog69 3 года назад
I'm sure he hasn't worked at Honda since this car was built. Though it seems like such a rare issue I doubt there's any service bulletins about it. Especially since Honda had the confidence in it to not stock brand new replacements or very very few of them. This is just a raw deal where a rebuild is the only option.
@thomasandrews9355
@thomasandrews9355 3 года назад
@@richardbicker640 ey there viewers, welcome back the south main auto channel. Today we're looking at a 2010 hondo, or acura...she has the big 3.7. how'd I do?
@hacatan24
@hacatan24 3 года назад
My guess is that it's the original oil.. the problem was that this guy ran it like that the whole time... Doesn't matter what car it is you cannot be driving a car with low oil...
@wlrottge
@wlrottge 3 года назад
@@hacatan24 Acura 3.7 has a history of oil consumption. He probably didn't check the oil and ran it low, then destroyed the bearings.
@50sKid
@50sKid 3 года назад
Why don’t you pull it, strip it down to the block and head, send it off to your local machine shop, and have them rebuild it for you? They’ll clean it, deck it, put new bearings in it, reassemble. I’m not understanding why that isn’t an option in your mind. There is nothing special about a Honda 3.7. It’s just got a bigger stroke probably. My local machine shop here in the Valley would probably charge 2k for that.
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 года назад
I kinda wondered that. That is, of course, assuming that 𝒔𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒆𝒔 are available. Surely, unless the actual block is damaged, the engine can be repaired? I didn't hear anything about the customer not wanting a repair. Are we not talking about a guy called the "Car 𝑾𝒊𝒛𝒂𝒓𝒅"? Don't get me wrong, I'm no mechanic but, if parts are available, why can't the engine be repaired? The way the Wizard spoke, he hasn't investigated too much. Do we know exactly what's wrong with it?
@makgstefan
@makgstefan 3 года назад
we miss you 50skid! Please do some more videos or tell us about your life! Do a video soon! I fixed my BMW alone so many times cause of your instructions and i really really thank you for that!
@juanpretoruis
@juanpretoruis 3 года назад
I would like to know what the root cause is. oil pump failure? failed rings causing high oil consumption =low oil level .It would be interesting to see in a follow up video.
@ua7pyro591
@ua7pyro591 3 года назад
It's the piston rings/liner. It's highly documented. 3.7 j series. They all do it.
@duncandonovan5270
@duncandonovan5270 3 года назад
Yeah wondering what caused it too
@dakotafred1829
@dakotafred1829 3 года назад
I would like to see a video on the re build if they decide on that option.
@MaliciousSRT
@MaliciousSRT 3 года назад
My guess oil pump failure and spun a bearing, its not a hard rebuild folks, people have been rebuilding DOHC V6's for decades. It does not need to be sent to Michigan, they truly are confusing it with a Ferrari. Its a Honda, find a Honda guy, they are everywhere.
@laoshiolsen
@laoshiolsen 3 года назад
Root cause is son driving it like a race car.
@hazenstribling2646
@hazenstribling2646 3 года назад
worst sound i've ever heard a car make was when I turned on the radio to rebecca black
@ryanwilson465
@ryanwilson465 3 года назад
This is the comment of the day! BRAVO!
@duncandonovan5270
@duncandonovan5270 3 года назад
😆
@openphoto
@openphoto 3 года назад
Shes hot now so I've forgiven her.
@Leezeo
@Leezeo 3 года назад
Open the engine get the crack shaft cut to 10% and service oil pump and install new bigon barring. all will cost 8,500 rupees in Pakistan. 60$ dollars american... With oil and filter....
@pwbpeter
@pwbpeter 3 года назад
His son was driving it . Ferris Bueller ?
@HunterAtheist
@HunterAtheist 3 года назад
Maybe that's how it has so little miles. Probably reversed 60,000 miles. lol
@ajw828
@ajw828 3 года назад
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
@TIMMEH19991
@TIMMEH19991 3 года назад
Nah, it was his day off ;)
@OffTheBeatenPath_
@OffTheBeatenPath_ 3 года назад
No doubt son drove it like he stole it
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss 3 года назад
No Dad, honestly I never THRASHED the car.....OR.......maybe as honest as one previous President..."I did not have sex with that woman"...
@Dakiraun
@Dakiraun 3 года назад
It'll be really interesting to learn what the heck even happened to that engine (if, hopefully, the rebuild company provides that information).
@lorencooper6043
@lorencooper6043 3 года назад
I will keep you posted on it.
@alexbowers4203
@alexbowers4203 3 года назад
@@lorencooper6043 It sounds like big-end bearings to me. Same happened with a car I had. Some cars can't run on low oil or the bearings break. I had to replace engine as well.
@lorencooper6043
@lorencooper6043 3 года назад
@@alexbowers4203 oil was all full.
@keithf8649
@keithf8649 3 года назад
​@@lorencooper6043 You should try to contact Acura Customer support at 888-234-2138. These engines have their warranty extended to 8 years/125,000 miles due to piston ring issues causing excess oil consumption. Acura dealers are able to get replacement engines.
@BiggestSellout
@BiggestSellout 3 года назад
@@lorencooper6043 Wish you best with your car, very clean.
@themockalove
@themockalove 3 года назад
Finally a video on the RL from Wizard
@garethdancer625
@garethdancer625 3 года назад
have you thought about a 3.5l or 3.7l short engine from ebay? also asking Honda direct rather than through dealer? Honda America or even Honda in Japan direct? It can be more useful as middle men might not want to say "we can get one in 3 months" might be worth seeing which parts are needed and pricing the parts up as they are known to support parts long term even is don't have a spare engine. you could look into marine engines from Honda too.
@Merc4life
@Merc4life 3 года назад
Any diagnosis on a cause? This video kind of needed that as a conclusion. I know the guys getting it rebuilt, but I wanted to know how a low mileage engine failed. Does that Acura engine suck? What was the service record like? How does a low mileage engine, clearly well taken care of, fail completely?
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
Oil pump failure.
@scotts.2183
@scotts.2183 3 года назад
I own this exact car and in the the same color. I live in New England. This cars a beast, never mind how great it is in the snow. It is a rare car. I still haven't spotted one near me and I drove over 2 states to purchase mine. I would advise anyone that wants to buy one to make sure timing was done, if purchasing with over 60k.
@pizzamon795
@pizzamon795 3 года назад
5:05 also it has a Honda brand oil filter, so you know they took it to the dealership(stealership🤣) for the oil change
@melvingibson4525
@melvingibson4525 3 года назад
Yeah I bought a 2008 accord v6 that was dealer maintained its whole life. Most things were maintained well, but two things that really bugged me were the fact that the idler pulleys were not changed during the timing belt service. Also, the brakes were not bled during service and they simply replaced brake pads during brake service and not the rotors (due to those awful Phillip's screws holding them to the hub no doubt). Also, they of course perpetuated the myth of "lifetime transmission fluid". "Dealer maintained" is a mixed bag. All of these items were easy fixes, but never assume that dealerships are overly knowledgeable about these cars or even give a shit about doing everything properly. I do all my work myself, but for things like timing belts and valvevtrain adjustments that I don't want to mess with, an independent shop is always the way to go.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 года назад
Go to the dealer and you rarely know what they really put in the crankcase or if they change the filter. The are not on the same side of the dollar as the owner. I NEVER go to a dealer for anything that isn't warranty and even that I triple check.
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy 3 года назад
@@melvingibson4525 I learned many years ago that my cars are maintained best by myself.
@coses4957
@coses4957 3 года назад
Or it had none.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 года назад
@J Oh Everyone should do that. I always change my own so I know exactly what goes in the crankcase and keep my cars forever. 22,5 yr. with current daily driver.
@Gerberbaby922
@Gerberbaby922 3 года назад
This car is in truly amazing condition... oh besides the BLOWN ENGINE!
@hondajohn6948
@hondajohn6948 3 года назад
The 3.7 was in every MDX from 2007-2013 and many Tls and RLs why is it so hard to find?
@ApocalypticWaffles
@ApocalypticWaffles 3 года назад
they are very popular performance swaps for accord, civics etc. they are very rare and expensive to get.
@mysterigx_
@mysterigx_ 3 года назад
That and those people still own and drive those vehicles as well.
@mysterigx_
@mysterigx_ 3 года назад
@@tilleryinnovations592 I’m guessing he wants that specific motor either new or with low mileage
@honorableoutlaw5410
@honorableoutlaw5410 3 года назад
He stated that the customer wanted only new or remanufactured.. No used
@youssefbounou6127
@youssefbounou6127 3 года назад
@@tilleryinnovations592 He clearly stated that it was modified by Acura itself to fit the car
@obsoleteprofessor2034
@obsoleteprofessor2034 3 года назад
I have a 92 Camry I bought for $500 and put 400k miles in it till the engine blew at 500k. I won't hesitate to put $3k in it and drive it for another 20 years. $7k on this clean car is a bargain because the alternative is anothet $60k for a new car.
@wholeNwon
@wholeNwon 3 года назад
Engine blew at only 500K?
@MrJav69
@MrJav69 3 года назад
The Camry engine would literally run for ever if it could be resleeved
@duncandonovan5270
@duncandonovan5270 3 года назад
Sure but it is still a lot of money that the owner may or may not have..to spend on it.
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 3 года назад
May I suggest you get out and live life a little? We are only here for a short time you know----go buy a Hellcat.
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 3 года назад
No one runs a car with that many miles in my country.. We just scrap them. Socialists can afford because we ain't paying for healthcare.
@BeansTune
@BeansTune 3 года назад
As stated by others, the 3.7 from the TL SH-AWD(J37A4) and ZDX(J37A5) with the dual VTEC heads will be a near direct swap. Might be some accessory or sensor differences, but they're nearly identical.
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 3 года назад
The car is worth $12K tops in perfect condition---not sure throwing a rebuilt engine in there at $7K is smart. Just let it go, use the $7K on a 2011 Prius or Camry and the kid will finish his PhD with value left in either of those.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 3 года назад
@@trevorsutherland5263 - Yep. Sell the car for $3k-$4k and move on. Let the next person deal with a used engine replacement.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Acura of Roseville has agreed to cover the costs because of the issue and regular maintenance preformed at that dealer. According to the owner.
@jacksan8026
@jacksan8026 2 года назад
@@trevorsutherland5263 some people when they rebuilt the engine or motor they know they're not going to get their money back they just want to have a reliable car to take them from point a to point b it's more like an investment personal investment
@kaiezesi6630
@kaiezesi6630 Год назад
Could I out the j37 air intake manifold on a j35a8 motor in a kb1 '05
@Bagom80
@Bagom80 3 года назад
Wonder if the 3.7 had the VCM issue the 3.5 have and caused excessive oil consumption. My 2012 odyssey had the "ring" job to correct the VCM. I ended up muzzling the VCM.
@KushPizzaSleep
@KushPizzaSleep 3 года назад
The RL is one of the best made Honda’s ever...it’s NSX level, made in japan
@gbriank1
@gbriank1 3 года назад
I can confirm that. I took pot holes, a few curbs, a steel lane dividing cone and hell even a ladder (dropped off a truck in front of me at highway speed)....and absolutely nothing happened to the car, except for a few scratches to the underside plastic. This car is a tank.
@KushPizzaSleep
@KushPizzaSleep 3 года назад
@@gbriank1 yes the built quality between the RL and TL is night and day, it was basically Honda of the early 2000s showing off their engineering ability, similar to Mercedes of the late 80s. If you read about some of the tech introduced in this car it is astonishing.
@kingmarz3635
@kingmarz3635 3 года назад
Actually all J series Honda engines are made in the US
@gbriank1
@gbriank1 3 года назад
@@kingmarz3635 Is that the Marysville, OH plant?
@kingmarz3635
@kingmarz3635 3 года назад
@@gbriank1 The J-series is Honda's fourth production V6 engine family introduced in 1996, after the C-series, which consisted of three dissimilar versions. The J-series engine was designed in the United States by Honda engineers. It is built at Honda's Anna, Ohio, and Lincoln, Alabama, engine plants.
@johncollier608
@johncollier608 3 года назад
That's a real shame. The customer must really love that car to throw $7k at it. There choice and respect that. Be good to see a couple of video's on this one - engine out and back in, if you're allowed, Wizard. Thanks for a great video.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
I know the owner IRL and I can tell you he takes great pride in taking care of his belongings.
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 3 года назад
@@adamgraham6265 Tell him that this is an amazing car and that it is 100% worth saving!
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
@@Shabbe02 an acura dealer in cali is paying for the damage since there was such a massive defect.
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 3 года назад
@@adamgraham6265 interesting so they are paying the wizard to do the job??? why won’t the Acura dealer do it themselves?
@B0xlife1
@B0xlife1 3 года назад
@@Shabbe02 it's his choice to use a mechanic of his choosing or the dealership. Honestly he may be paying partial so it may be in his benefit to keep it safe with the wizard vs some young tech.
@Ltldrk
@Ltldrk 3 года назад
You remind me of a great childhood memory I have -- 16 year old me watching Stacy David rebuild cars at 4am with my father before going to work. We used to do that almost religiously. Anytime I watch your videos Wizard, I get that same memory every time, and it's a wonderful memory to me! Also --- WHAT A MINT of an Acura!
@Imperial215
@Imperial215 3 года назад
How come a 3.7 Acura TL Shawd won’t work as a replacement engine???
@kimitsu20
@kimitsu20 3 года назад
That's exactly what I'm thinking as well. This engine shouldn't be any different than the TL's. They came with 3.5 for the FWD and 3.7 for the SH-AWD.
@francismartinez6049
@francismartinez6049 3 года назад
Won’t jive with the computers...all about computers
@aomar9449
@aomar9449 3 года назад
they made different versions of the 3.7 depending on application, with the RL and ZDX engines being the rarest
@canadianbison1071
@canadianbison1071 3 года назад
Yeah, the TL 3.7L engines used electric power steering but the RL still used Hydraulic power steering. You can even see the high pressure line when Wizard zooms in around the Serpentine belt. Small differences like that can change an engines serial number.
@meticulouselectronics
@meticulouselectronics 3 года назад
The engine is cast differently, different internals, and different engine tune. Pretty much nothing is the same. The RL was very special, and they made very few.
@NNoradIV
@NNoradIV 3 года назад
Thank you for saving this car. As an enthusiast, I love seeing cars that are obviously loved by their owners saved even if it doesn't make "economical" sense. Not everything is about money.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
You are like the only guy who gets this. :D
@jamesjames3525
@jamesjames3525 3 года назад
I DO THE SAME WITH MY CAR. I HAVE KEPT IT ALIVE FOR 26 YEARS.
@805NAVE
@805NAVE 3 года назад
RIGHT????? I am so happy and I would do the SAME THING. This car is worth it. It’s that special.
@jamesjames3525
@jamesjames3525 3 года назад
@@805NAVE LIKE NEW. INSIDE OUTSIDE, AND UNDERNEATH.
@GasMaskReacts
@GasMaskReacts Год назад
this one actually makes sense to save.
@johnpro2847
@johnpro2847 3 года назад
My Buick 3.8 engine ia as solid as after 22 years...if you want presage ..you have to pay big buck$.... ..most people could care less anyway.(do not tell the customer)
@mauriebarnes8272
@mauriebarnes8272 3 года назад
"Thrown a rod!' - The Blues Brothers 1980 All Rights Reserved.
@ronjohnson3177
@ronjohnson3177 3 года назад
Checkout Copart and see if they have a low mileage wrecked Accura.
@tony_25or6to4
@tony_25or6to4 3 года назад
There are wreaking yards that specialize in certain make cars. I believe one is in Rancho Cordova, CA. that specializes in Acura/Honda...was well as one that specializes in Toyota.
@abelcelestinjr8810
@abelcelestinjr8810 3 года назад
Wow, what about putting in a 3.5 L engine ??!
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 3 года назад
I'd bet it would work but be lacking some power.
@pope9349
@pope9349 3 года назад
@@jeremypike9153 abrely any difference in power and the 3.5 last forever compared to the dogshit 3.7
@HotHeadCJ
@HotHeadCJ 3 года назад
@@pope9349 Lol is the 3.7 that bad?
@alexrosado3890
@alexrosado3890 3 года назад
@@pope9349 isnt the 3.7 just a stroked 3.5? Even wizard said that it's basically just a 3.5
@StevenRiegert
@StevenRiegert 3 года назад
That generation of RL came with a Carbon Fibre driveshaft - pretty incredible to see that level of effort and detail (and cost!)
@mikebingham9700
@mikebingham9700 3 года назад
I would spend the $7,000 to re-build the engine. It's going to be a Classic car at some point. i.e. 55 Chevy!
@KimathiTheLeopard
@KimathiTheLeopard 2 года назад
@@mikebingham9700 doubt it’ll make it to classic status. For that matter, I doubt any post 2010 car on the road today will make it to that point. Except maybe some American muscle with a dedicated cult following in the future.
@Gerarghini
@Gerarghini Год назад
Only $4500 to get another in case it fails 😅😅😅
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 Год назад
@@Gerarghini isn’t the whole point of it being carbon fiber is so it DOESN’T fail? At least not easily.
@Sprier
@Sprier Год назад
Until the bearings they used close to the exhaust there go bad and start whining like a bitch 😭 also can't replace just a bearing gotta be the whole shaft. Luckily TL isn't carbon
@damieg82
@damieg82 3 года назад
Any chance a 3.5 could be swapped in? I have a feeling they share a lot of components, if not alignment, bolt for bolt in some instances. If they do, might be better to swap in a 3.5 so that if there are any major engine issues in the future, repair to the 3.5 will be a lot easier
@johnnieburkhalter5265
@johnnieburkhalter5265 3 года назад
From what I understand from AcuraZine, the 3.7 V6 is just a sleeveless, bored out 3.5. That is the only difference between the 3.5 and this 3.7 engine.
@PhillyDee215
@PhillyDee215 3 года назад
Wow Honda/Acura engine knock at 40k miles...wowwwwwww😱had to be a manufacture defect or a couple missed oil changes😬
@aarond23
@aarond23 3 года назад
Does this guy have a lift and polish the bottom of his car?
@lorencooper6043
@lorencooper6043 3 года назад
nope haha all of its life its been in a garage and its only been driven in the rain 3 times.
@VC-Toronto
@VC-Toronto 3 года назад
Plate is from CA, so unless he lives really close to the ocean, the sun is the major culprit. It's amazing what a dry salt free climate will do, especially if it's kept in a garage most of the time.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
@@VC-Toronto Its from Sacramento
@300DBenz
@300DBenz 3 года назад
If I had a lift in my garage, I would!
@VC-Toronto
@VC-Toronto 3 года назад
@@300DBenz House next to my buddies place is a house built in the 60's, has a 2 car garage, and one of the "bays" has a walk down pit. Don't know the backstory to know why the prior owner or builder wanted a house in a residential area to have a pit, but likely a car-guy/gal at heart.
@karlhurn
@karlhurn 3 года назад
So did you say it was nice? I must have missed that 🤣🤣🤣
@dreadsasho
@dreadsasho 2 года назад
At 3:37 that's the ATF cooler, not the PS one. And regarding the engine knock - with J37 the odds are it can be just the rocker arm spring, that's a common problem with these and a cheap and easy fix with the engine left unharmed even though it sounds like it's falling apart. If it turns out that the engine is indeed toast, then one can easily import a low mileage J37 from Japan between 2000-3000$ tops.
@_sirhenry
@_sirhenry 3 года назад
Isn’t it possible throw a 3.5 Honda engine in there?
@BUCKMAW
@BUCKMAW 3 года назад
That's what I was thinking. If they just changed the stroke to get a 3.7, then shoehorn a 3.5 in it.
@Imperial215
@Imperial215 3 года назад
Or just use a Acura TL 3.7 engine
@sanosuke2999
@sanosuke2999 3 года назад
It might have extra sensors or the computer tuning for it might be different.
@MrDede2011
@MrDede2011 3 года назад
That model year they added more features to the engine to get it over 300hp it would fit but the converion wouldn't be work the money the engine cats and full exhaust have to be swapped since the 3.7 has extra piping to feed exhaust gas back into the engine
@johnnieburkhalter5265
@johnnieburkhalter5265 3 года назад
Im pretty sure this RL has the 3.7L V6 which made 300HP
@bteamshorts
@bteamshorts 3 года назад
11k dollar car that needs a 7k dollar engine. Man, that's a tough decision.
@805NAVE
@805NAVE 3 года назад
Yes with 40k miles it’s worth more like 16k-18k
@bteamshorts
@bteamshorts 3 года назад
I guess it’s still cheaper than a new car🤷‍♂️
@Mistadontplay89
@Mistadontplay89 3 года назад
RLs are actually really rare.
@jackiejorpjomp
@jackiejorpjomp 3 года назад
MDX also had the 3.7
@zippySquirrelface
@zippySquirrelface 3 года назад
I think the MDX had dohc and the RL had sohc.
@jackiejorpjomp
@jackiejorpjomp 3 года назад
@@zippySquirrelface both were 300 hp sohc
@kimitsu20
@kimitsu20 3 года назад
@@jackiejorpjomp I'm pretty sure they can use the 3.7 V6 from the SH-AWD TL I'm not sure why they are making it a hassle to find a used engine for this RL when theirs hundreds of TL of the ERA on the road or in the junkyard.
@zippySquirrelface
@zippySquirrelface 3 года назад
@@jackiejorpjomp regardless, Mr wizard said no engine swaps allowed.
@TaylorMMontgomery
@TaylorMMontgomery 3 года назад
@@kimitsu20 yeah very strange, although I'd bet it's not the exact same design. The engine in the RL seems flatter and wider than what was in the TL.
@MrRangerZr1
@MrRangerZr1 3 года назад
Back when Honda used to make genuine, reliable, and quality cars...
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 3 года назад
100%, its very sad on their reliability nowadays. I was in FB 3rd Gen Honda Pilot groups and so many people having premature injector failures. And home have issues with their headunit. Honda also got hit with their reliability for oil dilution issues with 1.5T engines on CR-V and Civic right? It's really sad what has happened to Honda.
@Blue-moon12
@Blue-moon12 3 года назад
@@LionRunner Not all new Honda's have issues. I have 2016 Accord Coupe with zero issues. Even Toyota have had recent issues so its not just Honda. I'd still take a Honda or Toyota over any domestic or German vehicle. Only Kia and Hyundai would challenge them for reliabilty etc.
@ua7pyro591
@ua7pyro591 3 года назад
Eh. They stopped making reliable cars around 2007. This is newer.
@AircraftMechanic-AP
@AircraftMechanic-AP 3 года назад
You must be forgetting about the transmission problems they had behind their v6 engines.
@tturtle1659
@tturtle1659 3 года назад
Hello from Austria (EU) where Honda sells maybe 100 cars a year nowadays. I looked at the previous model Euro Civic and the price was a bit too much so I dropped the idea. Am very glad I got a 2015 Mazda 3 instead, the current EU Civic is even worse I hear, the head gaskets don't hold on these highly strung little turbo engines. Sad really when you think how popular Hondas were here in the 80s-90s.
@mcr5645
@mcr5645 3 года назад
I would check junkyards or just throw a 3.5 in there... I was wondering why these are going so cheap, I see 2014 models with 40k-60k miles for $9,000-11,000 USD... You can literally buy a new car with engine for the price of rebuilding that engine :/
@iLupi
@iLupi 3 года назад
I don't think I've ever seen many RLs on the road. That one like you said looks in rather good condition, but with the low mileage that makes sense. That's unfortunate about the engine; who knew the J37 would be so hard if not impossible to find versus a J35. That's good to know about; it's rather insane that you can't even get a J37 from Honda/Acura! Can't wait to hear the RL and see it running again when you all get the rebuilt engine back in it.
@agaad22
@agaad22 3 года назад
It’s very strange because Acura was replacing these left and right a few years ago for the oil burning issues.
@icemanbtlr25
@icemanbtlr25 3 года назад
Wasn't no factory defect the kid probably just never changed the oil .
@eldonerc2524
@eldonerc2524 3 года назад
Bout to say it still has the factory honda oil filter, probably still on the 2010 factory oil. LoL
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 3 года назад
@@eldonerc2524 It would still run... Those Honda engines are helluva tough! The engine should have been worn at worst, not "broken". If you want to trash a Honda engine draing it of oil completely... Maybe there wasn't enough oil?
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 3 года назад
There's a TSB about piston rings on that gen 3.7 J series engines. They're known to burn oil cuz of it. They have a program where they monitor your oil consumption for 3k mi & they do piston rings for you free if you're burning enough oil. Tons of info on it. I was shopping 2010 tl's for a bit & it scared me away from them. Used to have a 2010 tsx & those K series also had the oil burning issue
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 года назад
@@RothBeyondTheGrave what about the 2009 TSX? I read those are great and almost purchased one in manual.
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 3 года назад
@@jamesmedina2062 that's the same gen as the 2010 actually. One MAJOR reason had me get rid of mine. Intermittent failure of the vsa modulator. It's married to the abs, the sensors go bad & it lets air into the braking system. 90% loss of brakes. Mostly happens during hard braking over rough patches, but can literally happen anytime. Scariest shit I've ever experienced in a car. No aftermarket solutions, $2,200 part only from Acura which 2 Acura techs told me to my face will also likely fail cuz they're bad from factory. Other than that & rear rotor warping, (which I also had) it's seemingly bulletproof. Enormous bang for buck & wish I had gotten the manual, but if you get that vsa issue.....sometimes it lasts for months & you literally have 10% of your brakes. It happened at 57k mi on mine.
@805NAVE
@805NAVE 3 года назад
Thank you thank you THANK YOU WIZARD for fixing this beautiful special car and helping the owner! This car is 10x cooler than hoodies lambo
@just_a_guy_doing
@just_a_guy_doing 3 года назад
I have a 1998 Acura tl that my dad bought in 1999 from a doctors wife. Dad didnt drive the car for a few years due to his health, and when he passed, I said to my wife, dad loved that acura, its time to fix it up a little and drive it. First was the exhaust system. That was a heck of a hunt, but parts were available, then it came to the brake rotors and pads, from sitting they rusted and glazed over, called dealership both acura and honda. They said not available. Ended up napa was able to them over a week for them to source all the parts. Then I had to take it in for inspection, abs light periodically came on, mechanic said it's the front right abs sensor starting to go bad. Bad news though, no one makes a replacement... a shame this happens to something like a Honda/acura. Oh well we still love the car and it only has 68,000 miles on it.
@MrBrianbusch
@MrBrianbusch 3 года назад
The Kid was beating the Piss out of it, goes with not having any skin in the game,
@MrBrianbusch
@MrBrianbusch 3 года назад
If it were a Kia/Hyundia it would have still been under warranty.
@MrJav69
@MrJav69 3 года назад
You would be doing neutral drops or something
@JohnG6
@JohnG6 3 года назад
Thats what I thought too. But with the body, interior, and undercarriage being in such good shape I doubt it a little. If the oil light came on then maybe the oil pump failed or the kid neglected the maintenance. Even then it only had 42,000 miles on it and wasn't leaking. If The Wizard suspected intentional misuse he certainly kept his mouth shut about it.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 3 года назад
No, sorry, but they don't have a good record! They've not had a good record for well over a decade now! I would not touch a Honda product with a 10 foot barge pole. Heck, I'd get a Hyundai or Kia over the poor quality crap they put out these days. All you have to do is crack open a Consumer Reports (the MDX was rated as one of the most unreliable vehicles, btw), or read a few forums. Don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to know what's going on! Stick with TOYOTA is you care about reliability and durability!
@Darksyne
@Darksyne 3 года назад
YES! Finally some Acura Videos and I'm glad it's of a 2nd Gen RL. They're the most under-rated Acura ever next to the 2003 CL Type S with the Manual Transmission. Unfortunately oil burning is a common issue with ALL Honda/Acura J37 3.7L Engines because of faulty piston rings from the factory. You can read all about the class action lawsuits that are STILL on going with these engines. They burn oil like crazy and unfortunately that's what probably happened to this car and the owner didn't realize that it was so low on oil until it was too late.
@Carvetii
@Carvetii 3 года назад
it must have been run low on oil for it to fail like that. i would love to know what the cause of the fail was.
@adamgraham6265
@adamgraham6265 3 года назад
Oil pump failure. The dipstick showed true according to the owner, someone I know IRL.
@Carvetii
@Carvetii 3 года назад
@@adamgraham6265 thanks for that such a shame for a really well kept car
@romeoroze2357
@romeoroze2357 3 года назад
Lol , wizard is so amazed at a car like this. Since he is used to Hoovie's hooptie patrol
@bvedant
@bvedant 3 года назад
Forgive the potentially silly question, but given the versatility of engines for Hondas, is just transplanting a J35 not an option?
@Justkevin377
@Justkevin377 3 года назад
I think a brand new 3.5 would be the best option.
@kingmarz3635
@kingmarz3635 3 года назад
JDM J35A8 is also 300hp.
@DEFENDcore
@DEFENDcore 3 года назад
Exacly swap to 3.5, shut up and just drive
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 3 года назад
I had that sound on a car once it was a bearing that somehow got into the engine.
@alexbowers4203
@alexbowers4203 3 года назад
Yeah big-end bearing when the car is run on low oil
@Nelson_89
@Nelson_89 2 года назад
The son probably just had a little to much fun on the corners. putting the SH-AWD to work oil move away from the pick up tube and starve the engine of oil… or a manufacturer defect 🤔 maybe
@ryanoddo9640
@ryanoddo9640 3 года назад
Thank you for making a video on this RL. As an Acura owner, it saddens me to hear the bad news regarding the engine. Glad the customer is fixing it the right way.
@MetaView7
@MetaView7 3 года назад
Can you shoehorn an Odyssey engine in it? The mounting should be the same.
@ddk80
@ddk80 3 года назад
There is a used 3.7 on eBay imported from Japan for 1899.99 with Free Shipping from San Diego-approx 50k miles and compression tested.
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 3 года назад
You should definitely interview the engine rebuilder and ask him what went wrong internally in this engine, and whether they think it's a common or even at all occuring failure (on all the other engines they have rebuilt so far). Or if they don't want to be interviewed, then at least tell us what they found!!
@pizzamon795
@pizzamon795 3 года назад
That is a great idea. I really think that's the juiciest bit of info we could all appreciate
@Llova1
@Llova1 3 года назад
I second this, I would love more info on how this happened!
@TeroYyy
@TeroYyy Год назад
99% certain that this is a basic user fault, too long interval between oil changes which has clogged the oil lines that feed the main bearings and the rod bearings. For that reason a rod bearing has lost it's oil film and made contact with the crank and slipped loose/worn out.
@schassismx3115
@schassismx3115 Год назад
@@TeroYyy I doubt it, I bet those j series could go the entire 47k miles with no oil change and still be fine. Probably oil pump failed or engine was consuming oil and he ran out.
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 3 года назад
Although a crate or rebuild would be preferable... It’s still an 11 year old car, regardless of how nice it is, and a junk yard motor will b just fine. Note: they ran it out of oil folks !
@castanza128
@castanza128 3 года назад
He makes more of the engine rarity than it actually is. Same engine is in TL SH-AWD. Also, you can buy a used one from LKQ, or car-part.com or a rebuilt from Jasper.
@theyadmire511
@theyadmire511 3 года назад
And it was in the MDX and the ZDX.
@F6HemiCharger
@F6HemiCharger 3 года назад
That’s just the mechanical lifters...no problem here. 😂
@imfineproductions5847
@imfineproductions5847 3 года назад
I've been working at an Acura dealer for 4 years, unfortunately I have never seen one this nice, most of them are trashed cause the current owners can't afford to fix them, just buy them because it's the former Acura flagship
@backyardsounds
@backyardsounds 3 года назад
Big question. Where did the oil go?? Surely it wasn't burning it up? Or rather, was the oil level ok?
@ThirdBrainLives
@ThirdBrainLives 3 года назад
The reason why there aren't any 3.7's out there is because they're typically bulletproof and don't need replacing. This is an extremely rare and unfortunate case. Acura isn't to blame and neither is the owner - just terrible luck!
@rob33699
@rob33699 3 года назад
That wouldn't be why you couldn't find a good used motor, that's the exact opposite reason.
@nodamnametouse
@nodamnametouse 3 года назад
actually the are prone to lots of oil consumption problems a quart every 1000 miles and need timing belt servers from 50k to 100k depending on the weather and rls are not the only ones with 3.7 j series tls also have it
@aaasssppp123
@aaasssppp123 3 года назад
You cant find them cause they were only produced from 09-14, I believe. Oil consumption is a big issure. Acura dealer replaced pistons and piston rings on my 2010 TL out of warranty for free. It's about $5k job!
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 3 года назад
Motor swap? Pop in the motor from the Ridgeline/MDX/Pilot?
@johnnieburkhalter5265
@johnnieburkhalter5265 3 года назад
Wizard says the customer wants a New or Remanufactured engine. If they were less picky, the identical 3.7 V6 engines to this RL was also in Late 2nd gen MDX, SHAWD 4th gen TLs, and All Acura ZDX.
@CASTANEDA83
@CASTANEDA83 2 года назад
What's the update on this, Wizard?
@GibsonBuck
@GibsonBuck 3 года назад
My 93 Topaz made the same noise when it threw a rod. 😑
@pizzamon795
@pizzamon795 3 года назад
Are you against buying them on eBay?EDIT: [THE BUYER IS AGAINST A MOTOR FROM EBAY. Customer wants new or reman only] there's a few on there 2010 RL 3.7 right? Yeah theres some on Ebay, one with 68k on it!!!!!
@namicle
@namicle 3 года назад
I know, and MDX and TL used pretty much the same exact engine.
@Gsxforsale
@Gsxforsale 3 года назад
I’m assuming you mean a new engine is hard to find. Used 3.7’s are everywhere
@Mosstachio
@Mosstachio 3 года назад
Wonder why they are so common used though, not new. Mayhaps supply is so greatly overcoming demand that it's oversaturating the used market with more than likely, dead or dying engines?
@munther1071
@munther1071 3 года назад
Its the exact same engine from the Acura TL Type S and the newer TLs (2009 and up). Check junkyards for a TL Type S. Theres gotta be something around.
@Imperial215
@Imperial215 3 года назад
Type S only used a 3.5 the 4th gen TL ShAwd used the 3.7
@canadianbison1071
@canadianbison1071 3 года назад
No it's not, the TL's used electric power steering and the RL used Hydraulic Power Steering so there's no ports to feed the hydraulic system in the TL's J37
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