Sonic x Shadow generations gameplay optimized🤖 

I WHOLEHARTEDLY AGREE LMAO

@@LovelyBlazingRush bro they always have dudes play these demos that don’t know what the heck they’re doing LMAO watching the person that didn’t boost legit annoyed me to no end

@@LovelyBlazingRush what’s your favorite sonic game? Mine is SA2 easy

Looks good, but need more gameplay of other stages

Adding onto that Chaos Control also stops the timer so it's actually even longer

​@@thealandude9146 DANG

@@thealandude9146 Fucking hell I didn't even notice that!!

Nah Fadel knows how to play a Sonic game unlike these npc game journalists. So yeah the levels are not minute long yay

@@thealandude9146The DETAIL!!

😂😂

The dude was like "don't screw it, don't screw it, you are recording"

the guy playing is gamescage, this is a twitter reupload

Literally what everyone wanted

The game will still have 2D levels and 2D sections in levels. After all, this is a 2D/3D hybrid gameplay style. There's nothing wrong with 2D.

​@@DSmith3279fr, 2d is alright when it doesn't interrupt the gameplay flow at least, a point in case being crisis city/planet wisp act 2 in gens. It's only a problem imo when it stops you dead in your tracks to do tedious or slow normal platforming rather than complimenting the speed

I wouldn’t say on par, you have to remember that Gens and Unleashed had the drift, wall jumping, light dash, etc. Go back and watch boost levels from that era & you’ll notice that the mechanics are a bit more engaging, even modern Green hill and Apotos day but I’m hoping that we start seeing those old mechanics in other levels because the level design in Shadow Generations is really good!

Drift is a completely useless feature in this game because you can actually turn lmao​@@jordanelliott9050

​@@jordanelliott9050I'd argue that wall jumping is not a very good mechanic as it breaks the flow of the game, unless if done in 3d. In Unleashed & Gens, we mostly see in only 2d, so I don't mind not being here. But the rest I agree with you

Id compare this to a sa2 with boost cause it controls like that with some boost stuff, tho i gotta say the level design exceds gens and unleashes and actually has less hallways than those so this game is definitely not like forces at all, also i can see momentum is back

​@@jordanelliott9050tbh, fair, however, I always thought that the simplified boost gameplay from Forces and Frontiers could work well in a good level design (In Frontiers it even works considerably well) and it could have benefits since you have less things to worry about, but you're still right I'm just so glad the level design in this game doesn't look horrible, when the first gameplay was released by VGC I was so afraid, it looked so boring, with no alternate paths and challenges, and so much linearity, but after this gameplay, I'm VERY happy with how this level design looks and I hope the rest of the game has a level design quality like this And who knows about the other abilities? Maybe they could be here, I do agree with you they add a lot and are fun to use, Forces and Frontiers had a wall jump, and Frontiers was going to have a drift (that maybe would be good to use) but ended up just being that awful gimmick in 3-5, even if not in this game, maybe in the next mainline game (if they don't change the gameplay back to the Adventure Formula that is, since Kishimoto said he wanted to give that a try) And even without those abilities I still do think the game looks on par with the other ones, for different reasons, but I'm hoping this game will join along the other good Boost games such as Unleashed, Colors, Gens, Frontiers (and the 2D ones too)

TRUE,the amout of shortcut this have is INSANE

The movement reminds me a lot more of Cyberspace than Unleasehed, in a good way. It’s a lot about clever air movement.

And yet it has Forces animations, such as his spin jump, a double jump (which I don’t like personally), no hop, and even the homing cursor SFX.

@@leonardowynnwidodo9704 That has nothing to do with the level design.

I can’t really judge much since I haven’t played it but this does not look like Unleashed quality. At least it seems a lot better than Forces and Cyberspace. I’m up for it!!

The only forces design I see is in Shadow’s model and dash

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@@Yes-jk9bf Well forces on the visual aspect isnt bad at all. The shadow model is really good and has good animations, it might be me but i like the jump ball.

@@Mr.WheeIer I’d disagree, but that’s just mainly cause I fell in love with the Generations and Unleashed boost. Layout wise look pretty solid

@@Mr.WheeIerso you’re saying “running” while falling is a good animation? Dude, Modern Sonic and the Avatar have the exact same animations when they’re falling; even walking over a ledge without jumping looks stiff and doesn’t look natural

That's only SA1, SA2 is very linear, and it almost never opens up, I know because I just beat SA2 a few days ago

​@@Nickika True except for stages like final escape/chase where you can cheese the level by jumping off to branching rails, etc.

@@Nickika Yeah, if you look at SA2's actual design, it's really kinda a Boost game, it's not all THAT different from Boost game design, it's just that it uses a different control scheme/moveset taken from Sonic Adventure that's more similar to the classics.

@@Codyslx Yeah, those are really easy to abuse, I do all all the time.

I hope we can see more of these!

I think this is the best game ever it comes close to sa2 and already beat unleashed and gens tbh with that level desigm

The only catch seems to be the length, Iizuka don't want to tell us so its probably very short, (4- 5 levels?)

@@Pakigi716there are three confirmed levels so far, and it’s also confirmed that each stage will have 2 acts, so that’s six levels already, and I doubt they’ll stop there

@@Pakigi716I’ve been worried about that too, but the fact they already showed us 3 stages and one boss gives me hope, since remember how they were trying so hard to hide cyberspace. If we get a full 6 stages/zones and at least 3 bosses I’ll be satisfied. If they surprisingly make it equal to Generations and give us 9 I would be blown away. 2 acts have been confirmed since we see the Ark will also have a stage with both 2D and the new wings

@@SonicTheBlueBlur15I think this would hardly be on the same level as Gens, and Unleashed no less, since they use Forces animations, which are already terrible as they are. Regardless, the in-game cutscenes give it a winning edge

Wouldn’t be surprised as that’s the nature of Chaos Control

Of course they won't fix generation's story. They haven't touched the old content, only the shadow stuff is new.

I see the level design is close to like adventure 2 with a mix of adventure 1 but I do like it and it’s promising for the shadow generation campaign

Well that’s not a good comparison because unleashed’s first level is purely a tutorial since it was the first instance of boost in the mainline games this game is not only the 6th boost game but also includes a whole other game that people who’ve never played generations should play first. Also we haven’t included the cutscenes (Which are good so I have no problem with them but they still pad out the time.) TLDR: this level is made with the assumption you already know how to play the game.

The government funded it.

Ian Flynn would be a goated writer. This quality of a game put together with his writing would make an AMAZING game both storytelling and visually.

They were trying to avoid the serious shonen Sonic of the 2000s because all they saw as far as Sonic Adventure to Sonic and The Black Knight was the critics making fun of the stories. They didn't see merit, just every critic going "Sonic still can't seem to stop making stories as dark as him getting the lip lock on with a Princess... While dead." Even when the gameplay was good, the only thing that could be taken away from some of them was "Man, Sonic will never just be what it was in the 90s".

@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCity And that's kinda a bs way to change the writers in the 2010's. I love the 2010 Sonic games but the story just sucked major dick. Thank god they're fixing Sonic like he should've been

It really depends tho, if Ian just keeps writing references non-stop imma ask him to leave, bro.

​@@ThemightyTelevisionit really isnt that much of his fault, directors do give the lead story designer directions, i bet he wants to make good original stories but the games direction could be preventing him from doing the stuff he wants to do. And i'd take him any week of the day if it means pontac doesnt come back.

I guess the thing it's most similar to forces in is the dynamic ingame cutscenes/action scenes. that was like the only good thing about forces

@@sasasutumiand the animations

Just saying we had this in frontiers too although they weren’t as long as this

@@TYP2K. true true

I stopped listening to Premy during the wait for Sonic Frontiers, he just started saying crazy things.

​@@oliveguard8517 Same

Premy is an asshole lmao

Premy never said this was like forces level design, stop giving people misinformation. Go watch his video where he talks about how he feels about the level design.(he says it's in the middle of the boost games.)

​@@imnobody321 how "in the middle of Boost games" he wants to say 💀

Shadow ≠ Sonic

@@miadatenshi9903 They literally have the same gameplay mechanics in SA2, Sonic Heroes, Sonic Forces. Even Tailstube says that Shadow can do everything Sonic can respectively and then some.

@@bottomtext593 they want to make them different, last i checked sonic in generations cannot stop time using chaos control like shadow shows that he can do here or use chaos spear to hit enemies at long range even his homing attack is different since shadow uses chaos snap to teleport to his targets and yes said teleport is a real teleport that allows him to bypass certain obstacles, Fadel doesnt show it here but you can use chaos snap in that section with the fake chaos to bypass the lasers without needing to wait for them to deactivate

@@carso1500 Yeah I get that they have some separate mechanics and I get that. But I can't get over the fact basic things like drifting, wall hopping and lightspeed dash isn't in the game.

@@bottomtext593 you dont really need drifting if you can actually turn while boosting which as far as we have seen it seems to be the case in shadow generations, shadow can practically spin in place and even mid air his control seems to be pretty fluid lightspeed dash could still be in the game as an ability that you either get or have to buy, we know shadow gains new abilities through the game but lightspeed dash is rarely an ability that you from the start or it has limitations (in generations you can only use it in certain ring paths for example) same with wall hopping

This is the first act, the second act might be closer to the ark.

It looks like forces boost and frontiers physics

@@hassanch5866no it doesnt, the boost is fast and controllable like if sa2 had boost, and the physics have mometum like sa2 with open zone controls

@@SonicTheBlueBlur15 More like sonic frontiers max rings boost in open zone. It is also fast and controllable.

Fadel said it feels like cyberspace and you can see that in gameplay. He said he feels a little heavy in midair and the sort of ‘flying’ physics where you get enough speed to go off a ramp look virtually identical to Frontiers

@@SonicTheBlueBlur15It has that cartoony filter on the corners of the screen when he’s boosting. That’s in Forces.

That's a you thing, because from what I've seen it actually looks like you have to interact with the whole controller even on a casual run.

​@@ThemightyTelevisionI haven't seen any need to use the slide, stomp, quickstep and chaos spear

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I think openzone has combat too

Bro?? It basically works like the gun in StH

Looking at the official press gameplay this looks much better than the graphics from 06

Thats because it was given by NASA themselves.

Huh?

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

maybe you should just use the air boost

@@antony3213I kinda guessed that’s how one is supposed to reach it, but it doesn’t answer my questions

I don't see what's so good about the level design of srb2 either.

@@ThemightyTelevision Then you haven’t played it.

@@technicallyinept2120 mfer, I've played it and replayed, I have it downloaded on my phone too, still, the level design is shitty, it relies too much on your memory and muscle memory, if you get off the path good luck trying to find it again, stop assuming people don't play the stuff they criticize.

@@ThemightyTelevision I literally have no idea what you’re talking about as far as finding the levels difficult to navigate, but that is not the first time I have heard that complaint.

@@technicallyinept2120 exactly what I'm saying, that game wants you to be lost every chance it gets, almost every stage is stupidly hard to navigate, i don't like it.

Game wasn’t that bad better than colors

@@TreadywayYT there are things to enjoy in any bad game. hell, my favorite megaman x game is the worst one lol

Forces levels automated a lot of things I feel like that’s not true because In forces control was often taken in sections were it didn’t have to just to you. Could boost for. A couple seconds after There where full 40 seconds of no control in 1 min stages This game may have a decent bit of automation but the levels don’t take as much control form you look at the ark level

@@TreadywayYTForces was not better than Colors. Force isn’t even better than any mainline Sonic game.

@@Ilikecats731 don’t wanna hear it some of y’all not even cultured just be following what the internet say

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you don't need to drift if your controls aren't stiff

@@bfg10k42that rhymed

@@bfg10k42Still a cool addition among other mechanics missing.