Soul Reaver Alpha - Kain's Mountain Retreat 

I'd love a remake were the player can choose between canon or original play through of the entire game. I'd gladly sink £60 for this remake to become a reality.

I think how I would like to see it is, you make the Chronoplast and Oracle's Cave a hidden area; completely inaccessible unless you meet certain conditions (including beating the game once in this scenario). So if you proceed 'normally' you end up at Kain's Mountain Retreat, kill him and get the pinnacle of the Silenced Cathedral ending. The average person feels like a badass because oh the vampire menace is no more. Huzzah. But if you do ALOT of exploring and uncover certain abilities (not sure exactly what or how) then the events at Kain's Retreat are altered and the Caves become accessible. Then you get to have that hallway of omens and start to feel that ominous sense of 'wait, what exactly is going on here?' just after you viewed the original ending. Now that's an experience I'd love for the fresh eyes of the series to have.

What about putting the true ending in a new game+ with stronger enemies, some changes in boss patterns, even little new mechanics to defeat them. Something like in the first playtrought you kill one with light, but in the new game+ the boss defend himself with a decorative shield that he takes from a statue in the boss room, adding more content to the game and replayability. Even can be added new lines only in the new game+ for who plays it to 100%. Maybe the obligatory use of some glyphs to hinder bosses in new game+ version? I don't remember all of this (yeah, too much for having Raziel as icon) but if I remember correctly, the whole saga is about trying to cheat destiny. What if in the remakes, in each game there is multiple endings where only the true one can be performed in a new game+? The problem with this idea is that the games then require replay value. I don't know, too many changes could bring down the whole thing, but hey, if the original script has gone through all of this and the sold product has still its fanbase after 20 years of the game release, maybe on the right hands, change could provide an even better product. In the end, nobody can steal us the original.

@@mortvia how about just altering the order of the places. After killing dumah Raziel can go to the undercity instead of the oracles cave, to obtain the mind Control ability, then he proceeds to Turels area and gets the amplified telikinesis ability, giving him access to kains mountain retreat where he resides. There Kain gets dominanted, but can't be killed but only wounded and he escapes again. From there Raziel seeks Ariels advice as none of Raziels weapons where powerfull enough. She mentions the cathedral and that it is the ultimate weapon against all Vampires. To Help Raziel she sacrifices a Part of her soul to him and Raziel gains the Shift at will ability. With the shift at will ability Raziel ist able to Go to the top of the Kathedral and kill every Vampire in nosgoth. Except for Kain and the last vampires (who he time traveled with into the future as he knew the outcome). The Elder explains that with the Soul of an Balance Guardian, the Soul Reaver could "force" the guardian to restore balance as it is the will of the pillars to be restored. So Raziel goes Back to Ariel to Claim her Soul. At first she is afraid, as she wanted Rest, Not beeing consumed by the blade. But Raziel Corners her and she accepts her destiny and sacrifices the only Chance of peace to the void. Creating the Ariel Reaver. With the Ariel reaver Raziel ist finally able to go to the oracles cave and confront Kain, only to find all the Visions, realizing that Kain foresaw everything. The battle takes place and Raziel could truly wound kain, but he escapes through the time Portal into the past. Thus having the Canon ending with all the extra Material :)

@@TheELASESINADOR THAT is precisely the feel I'd want to keep in Soul Reaver. The adaptive hunter. You know the weaknesses but now how do you get around their strengths kind of thing. I'm all for not only only bosses but enemies too. Like apart from the standard more HP and aggressive enemies, the AI could also be smarter and maybe even cooperate across areas? Like what happens when you walk into a previously Melchahim inhabited room but now there's also a Rahabimim there? Oh guess what no sunlight now and the Rahabim is immune to water so now what? I'd also work to manage resistance and immunities across the five clans so that it's easy to keep it all in your head but still add levels to the depth of combat. I would probably keep the destiny thing strictly to the story level at least for the first Soul Reaver. Since in Soul Reaver it's all about the hunt for Kain, you only realize the fulcrum of what's truly at stake in the final scene.

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It is certainly possible! I think he would have teleported out of the courtyard as there were supposed to be only 3 battles with him total.

This might be possible to do, indeed :)

@@RainaAudron Reminds me of Vampire Citadel from Legacy of Kain: Defiance.

The alpha is really small, about half of 1 disc so I think they could have fitted all of it easily (it's only missing cutscenes, some dialogue and models).

The original impressively only takes around half a CD despite the incredible graphics and Voice acted cutscenes so they could still have finished it on one disc.

Correct, the screenshots are from a later build that this one.

@@RainaAudron existe la posibilidad de encontrar esta build?

A similar occurrence also happens if you attempt to complete the smokestack area by debug fly mode as of course the fans dont push you high enough

Not entirely, Amy confirmed that Raziel would realize his mistake and go back in time to fix it.

@@RainaAudron I wonder if it's possible to get any gameplay footage of legacy of kain the dark prophecy there's no video's anywhere i can find.

@@Azathoth4444 none has leaked yet, afaik. It would be interesting to see!

@@RainaAudron yeah so far screenshot's are all i can find too i know some of the plot of dark prophecy been awhile since i read about it though. Kain was ment to travel back to the demon dimension a few time's.

@@RainaAudron I first learned about the dark prophecy from this website www.thelostworlds.net/

Except he doesn't save it - he would realise his mistake and travel back in time to fix it.

@@RainaAudron I think he would've stayed in the future and help rebuild the civilization and preserve the humans survivors of Nosgoth.

@@zenicehero9154 It has been confirmed by Amy that he always travelled back to the past.

This confirmation is from the final story or the cut story??

@@zenicehero9154 sorry, not sure what do you mean. Amy said the above in an interview for PS blog about the original cut ending.

SR2 was meant to continue Raziel´s story and discovering his fate in Nosgoth´s past. They have brought back the forges and gave them a story purpose, however.

@@RainaAudron ok i see but wait tat means LOK.DEF. would tec. be the 3rd instalment right sence it picks up after sr2 and i thought it was spost too end the lok series 🤔 well untill they make the rwmasters or w.e 😄 or rather IF sence iv heard and seen the betas or tat was ment for LOK dead sun but it was cancled short after its beta demo witch RWY suck ass as i herd it was ment to be the 4th lok and it was ment too take place long after kain and razil 😞 just sucks we never got to see it

@@shadowdragonx07 Defiance happens straight after SR2 but the order of playing the 5 games is not so straight forward. Dead Sun would have been 7th game (if we count Dark Prophecy) which was also a soft reboot (see my article about it on my blog).

@@shadowdragonx07 No, Defiance is the fifth game in the series (BO1, SR1, SR2, BO2, Defiance). It was called SR3 during development but they have changed it to Defiance. It is a good thing that Dead Sun was cancelled, imo. I did not like what I saw in the vertical slice.