Spider-Man in Marvel's Avengers is a DISASTER 

I always get a kick out of the games that let you swing in the middle of an building-less countryside with the power of what I can only assume is Uncle Ben’s heavenly rope CrossFit routine

If Spider-Man couldn’t save this game, you know something’s up

I liked it far more when Spider-man actually had a snappy sense of humor. He could be awkward in small doses which added to his relatability, but it was never a main characteristic of him. Even when he was self-deprecating he still had a fun confident rhythm. This Avengers game version is just a pitiful wet blanket, and nothing like the Spider-man I love.

12:23 imagine doing one of those Taskmaster bomb missions with that web swinging speed

The full swing looks like he's traveling like 5 feet and would be quicker if he was just walking

Glad to see you got married, my man. I remember watching you make Spider-Man costumes all those years ago, glad to see how far you've come.

you also made a good point about none of Spidey's villains being used. the man's got the most well known rogues gallery out of anyone in this cast (heck, Kamala even borrows Shocker in her own comics since she's so original and developed), and none of 'em could make it? Doc Ock? Rhino? Chameleon? anybody? no? okay

I actually really like that Spiderman is one of the few super heroes that’s a heavy hitter but isn’t drawn with a body like Broly or The Rock. Also it’s funny that all gameplay of Marvel’s Avengers Spidey always looks scuffed, it’s like the environments can’t handle his skill set.

I love how he screams at the top of his lungs with so much energy every time he swings at the colossal height that is 2 feet off the ground lol.

What kinda irritates me about Spidey’s voice the most is also the pitching up, not just because it generally sounds weird, but because.. well, if I’m being honest, its a weird decision based on WHO’S voicing him. Sean Chiplock’s normal voice already kinda sounds like Spidey. A little *too* deep, ever so slightly, but still believable as a wisecracking young adult. Heck, you could just probably take the lines he did as say, Mista in JJBA, and put them over Spidey’s in-game scenes and theyd sound more natural.

The segmented sleeves in the Insomniac Spider-Man game are the only ones that haven’t bugged me. It took me ages to even notice it and even knowing it’s there it doesn’t jump out and grab your eyes to scream “look! Something’s missing here and you can never unsee it.”

Oh my GOD YOU SAID EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS I'm so unbelievably done with this game, and the VA for Peter makes me want to cry. The constant stuttering and awkward laughter just doesn't sit right with me.

You really put your finger on exactly why I bounced so hard. I downloaded this with some excitement, then played for a bit, then went back to Spidey remastered on PS5. I got so confused trying to figure out what move I needed to do for the card, and that's not limited to Spidey, that's everyone.

Spider-Man missing sleeves is one of those design details I never really think about, but at the same time it always feels off when they're missing. If that makes sense.

12:39 What're you talking about? He's obviously swinging on Uncle Ben's spirit in the game duhhh

Spider-Man in this game plays like he took a year off of being a hero, and did nothing but watch Netflix and eat pizza all day.

"its not toms fault its every single molecule surrounding him" holy shit thats accurate

The ONLY Spider-Man suit that cuts the belt, changes the sleeves, adds blue to the gloves and gets a pass is the TASM1 suit because it was the very first modern Spider-Man design to do any of that and it doesn't feel cheap. That one had thought put into it and I think it looks cool.

Your critique of Spidey's costume is spot on and sounds like you know your design inside out

13:13 'How easily you were showed up by Fortnite of all things' counter: 3 omg

I love the criticism but idk why yall had any hope or expectations in the first place about this game getting better. When it comes to experienced publishers, I'm rarely if ever forgiving them for a terrible game at launch...Unless they go absolutely above and beyond(very rare), it's usually wrong to say "oh maybe the game will get better" because then they release an unfinished game at every launch. Unfinished games are unexcusable imo, there is no "making up for it" after launch...because they will exploit that mindset.

Salute to the MCU for finally letting Peter have his OG suit

10:32 HOLY FUCK that iron man suit looks like the ABSOLUTE SHIT

Anyone else coming back for another rewatch after official announcement of it being dead?

Everything's a disaster in Marvel's Avengers.

love how xavier was talking about how the webs on the suit were easily visible from a distance and then in the next clip you could barely see the webs

Playing the Spider-Man dlc has made me appreciate the insomniac games a whole lot more because playing this Spider-Man dlc has made me realise what insomniac Spider-Man games could’ve been.

The worst part of the whole thing is that the people who made the terrible decisions that led to the game being so bad and hated will not be penalized for it in any way. They keep their jobs and they get to keep ruining future games. Gotta love the lack of accountability for upper management.

"Mom, can we have Spider-Man PS4?" "We have Spider-Man PS4 at home." *Spider-Man PS4 at home:*

5:44 Superheroes using social media *can* be done right. When I first heard that Batgirl was taking selfies and doing trendy things, I cringed a little. But then I watched the Harley Quinn animated series and was surprised by how well it works. It was actually an effective tool in making the character more likeable. That being said, Spider-Man is not a character that'd work well with.

You're right about wanting to turn the game off every time you play. I realized what I don't like is the combat. It's kind of like God of War, but without any sense of doing damage, and no real parrying. Timed parries and visceral damage would make the combat better.

9:29 😂😂 I died

This DLC was definitely this games last hope. The final people who weren't hard core fans for this game were interested in Black Panther and Spider-Man, Black Panther went out with a whimper and this has let down so many people, and I'm just left here wondering: how can you screw up a superhero game this bad?! I would love to know what was going on behind the scenes because this just doesn't make much sense to me yk? Congrats on the marriage man! God bless and I wish you both happiness :)

shout out to Uncle Ben for catching all of Spidey’s webs from heaven

13:27 has to be an homage to AVGN. Only thing that's missing is "I'd rather..."

If you want a good Marvel team up game, I suggest playing Ultimate Alliance 3. Because it actually feels like love and passion was put into the game and it's characters and is fun to play. Sure the story is cheesy but at least when you finish it, you feel satisfied and have achieved something

You can literally only do two swings in the 2000 Spider-man game, and it still looks less clunky than Avengers Spider-man swinging. Like, I can FEEL how slow and painful it is by the animation alone, and I haven't even played it.

It’s like trying to “swing kick” just to move around in marvels Spider-Man

2:15 I legit thought something was wrong with my phone

I thought Spiderman was supposed to be quippy, quick-witted and confident compared to the awkward Peter Parker? Isn't that the whole Spidey shtick? This Spidey sounds like he's afraid to raise his hand in class and his sighs sound like he would snap at any moment.

14:30 YES! This is exactly how I feel every single time I play this game. I've literally fallen asleep during cutscenes before.

I played the beta for Avengers and I could already tell that something was very wrong with it. After having played Guardians of the Galaxy over christmas, I can tell how much passion they have for the characters in that game. By the design of the alternate costumes and even the amount of dialogue that made me feel like i was part of the team. I can tell that that the devs for the Avengers game didnt really care all that much and just left it how it was. Hopefully they learn for next time.

10:51 I busted out laughing 😂😂😂

The web swinging footage at 12:30 made me legit dizzy

Why have they almost completely purged Ben Reilly's suit from media? IMO it's one of my all time favorites

At this point, we are beating Marvel’s Avengers game like a dead horse.

I understand removing the sleeves when their meant to be gloves he can take off, so the whole suit isn't one piece. There removing them serves some purpose as it's where the invisible seam would go, versus when it's just a pointless redesign for no reason.

Surprised the game lasted this long.

Every freaking alternate costume looks cheap There's something off about all of the ones pulled from the comics. Bugle Boy was cool, but they did Spider-Armor Mk. IV so wrong Really if you're playing this, you obviously have a PlayStation 4 or 5, so just go play Insomniac's Spider-Man games. Way better alternatives

It's crazy to think I started watching you back in my freshman year of highschool when you made reviews on a bunch of Spidery games, and now I'm 20 years old and you're f*cking married. Life moves too damn fast man...

“Goofy asshole with an art degree.” That got me so good you hit it right on the head lol love the video 👍🕷

7:57 It was the way he said that and how true it is lol

I agree with you 100%. Spider-Man was the thing everyone looked forward to and his movements in the game are sluggish. Ultimate Alliance (all three of them) was what the Avengers wasn't. They had cohesive stories, a bigger cast to play as, more villains to fight, more places to explore, less repetition, and more replay value. It wasn't some big budget sellout.

This is why I like insomniac they care about Spider-Man and they care about the suits they’re in the game for free and when adding new suits to the game they were still free just play the (frustratingly hard) missions in the dlc and you get a suit and the rest of them are added as a free updates Raimi suit added as a free update for Christmas The fantastic four suits added as a free update for the Disney and fox deal being finalized The far from home and the no way home suits added as a free update just because the movies were releasing (even if the movie no way home suits were ps5 only) And just because a remastered version was coming to ps5 if you were ps4 owner you still got 3 incredible suits including the amazing movie suit as a free update Yet I’m seeing people go crazy about avengers Spider-Man’s costumes and I didn’t even care or like them because I knew they were just there for money plus I thought insomniac did costume designs better I had already sold my copy of avengers prior to this coming out in the summertime for a Ben 10 dvd As much as phin pisses me off in the miles Morales because she’s downright stupid at least there’s a villain to fight there’s nothing here for Spider-Man to fight other than robot number 46,853 This may be a bold statement but I’m sticking to it and I’m gonna say it right here right now this game is the superhero equivalent to battlefront 2 a game just there to collect money and the development team doesn’t give a shit I’ll admit I tried to give this game a chance at first but even when playing it I screamed out of frustration at the endless waves of robots while standing in a circle and i just wanted to play Spider-Man while playing it there’s nothing special about this game in fact I owe guardians of the galaxy an apology it actually tried and I’m looking forward to insomniac giving us Spider-Man 2 And they’re take on wolverine

My least favorite thing ever about this Spiderman is how your monument completely stops when you finish a swing

Watching the swinging for this game makes me appreciate just how good the swinging is in both the 2018 and Milies Morales. Not only are both of those much faster and more fun, but you have so much freedom while swinging. This one.... Just looks so boring, slow, and generic.

Good to see you love the new Shiny Blue suit from No Way Home!

Oh my fucking gods man I started tearing up when I read you got married. I've been following since the Spider-Man retrospective days and have so many fond memories watching your stuff, incredibly happy for you and I hope everything goes well in your life

5:09 I actually really like this, like try to imagine that scene but as a 3D animated cutscene that 2D motion art looks kinda sick. Love the artstyle WAYYY better than how the game actually looks imo. Though I wouldn't want to replace every cutscene in the game with that 2D Motion animation thing since it'd get boring at times. Only thing I dont like is how bland the audio feels

6:53 I can attest that Sean Chiplock definitely has the range to be a less timid and less high pitched spiderman cause he did Teba in BOTW and TOTK. Maybe not have spidey sound THAT deep voiced but yeah lol

I was always WAY more annoyed by breaking up the belt than the sleeves, but I get what you mean. I'd rather they didn't include the sleeves than add weird cuts into it. But if they go full Classic, that's fine too.

5:35 nothing wrong with having motion comic/stop motion based visuals. Some people think that's cool Now in the case of a super big budget game, yeah, they shouldn't have to resort to making a slide show in terms of visuals UNLESS, it's a stylistic choice like in The World Ends With You, which purposely does this to mimic a sort of manga/comic book style.

Once I have the beginnings of the build I want for a character, I have genuinely enjoyed everyone's playstyle and moveset...but for some reason everyone but Panther is clunky af before that and I don't know why.

I don't mind the modern designs of Spider-Man's suit like the sleeves and semi-belt patterns. I think they look pretty neat

As a Spider-Man fan, I'll definitely pass on the Spidey DLC. In fact, I'll pass on Square Enix's Avengers in general. Glad I got Guardians of the Galaxy last Christmas.

That was some top tier editing

actual video starts at 1:25

Did anybody else get chills when Spider-Man swings at the screen to it cutting out with you better come around what a fantastic edit.

Time flies and it punches you like a thug, it's so nostalgic for me seeing how your channel has grown over the years, but most importantly you, remembering the time when i met your channel with the game retrospective and when you made your first spidey suit, and now you've grown to become a family man, and for that i can only say that it's been an honor to be since then.

It must be such a spit in the face to Square Enix that Epic Games did Spidey’s design and gameplay infinitely better in their free to play battle royale game than Square could in their paid DLC for their $60 game

i love Sean Chiplock, he's a fantastic voice actor. But it would've been better ( if the damn game itself was good ) that they had Yuri Lowenthal voicing hi again.

10:05 HOLY SHIT IM NOT INSANE WHEN I SAY I HATE THIS TREND AS WELL, ever since the ultimate Spider-Man tv show came out with it being all blue it always annoyed the crap outta me, the segmenting didn’t bother me that much since his sleeve is still there but now that you point it out it does get used a fuckton

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Hold on a damn minute! You got married? Congratulations! As for Spidey's redesigned suit, I like it for the most part. There's only one thing that bothers me: it's the eyes. I like Spider-Man having medium to large eyes.

I was really excited for the alternative suits when i first saw the images and they looked so cool and then the dlc released and yeah non of the suits look like how they did in the image except for noir that looks good but damn they failed big time with heavy ass spoder man Edit:oh also the classic suit is cool as well

🎉congratulations for 100 reviews/editorials🎉

It’s also extremely stupid that he’s only on PlayStation, which further fragments whatever player base is left.

The ONLY time I am okay with removing the red on the sleeves is with the Superior MK1 suit, as it’s essentially just supposed to be a slightly altered classic suit (it also has one of my favorite lenses designs ever!). Too bad everybody freaking forgets about it and only remembers the second one that’s a messy Alex Ross suit with extra Ock/Iron Spider arms and silver gauntlets lmao Anyway, congrats on the marriage!

"how easily were you showed by fortnite of all things" is now my favourite GM line

the funniest thing I found after watching this video is I scroll down and look at the place where youtube shows what game was in the video "Marvel's Avengers Hero's credit pack" XD

When you said this game makes you sleepy that happens to me too except with red dead online I’m guessing games with nothing to do tend to have that effect or games that we can’t find any enjoyment from anymore

6:36 you nailed it, I couldn’t figure out what it was but that’s the exact combination to describe why it just didn’t work for me. I don’t blame the actor, it’s clear they wanted a certain direction to emulate Tom Holland in shallow ways and it does remind of a combination of those two actors you mentioned EXACTLY.

10:01 had me in stitches. God bless you

Spidey be swinging on uncle Ben in the sky 💀

fortnite is known for going above and beyond when it comes to crossing over with other media which is a very redeemable fact about it

I can’t tell if the frame rate going into Perfect Dark on N64 was symbolic or not, but it greatly enhanced my opinion to never touch this game ever again.

17:29 Me And Anna Were Literally Building Legos And Not Paying Attention The Entire Time He Was Playing.

how long will it take for a director of the board in the company to say "what you did here was half assed"?

Not you got the Max Payne 3 soundtrack in the background😭😂

when I saw the promotional images for this DLC I thought that at least the default suit looked good, but watching on the gameplay, it looks like he's covered in a layer of dust or that he let the suit in the washing machine for too long and it lost some of the colors

His rant about Spider-Mans sleeve reminds me of Chris Chans rant about sonics arms changing from tan to blue🤣🤣🤣

Personally speaking, I like the segmented suit specifically in Insomniac's spiderman. I like the segmentation and from a design stand point, I think it's good. Iconic spidey is always great, but the redesigns are just as great in my book. The avengers game one you showed as well is not great though. that i can't argue

Whenever I draw Spider-man from memory I always forget about the sleeves for some reason, so personally I just forgot they existed.

I know you're not entirely a spider-man channel, but I was thinking about this idea after the suit segment of this video. I'd like to see you do a ranking of all the spider-man suits over the years, from comics, shows, movies, games, you name it. Also congrats on the engagement!

I actually really like the Iconic Suit in this game. I love the shades of bright red and dark blue that they used, and I really like how it's segmented. Barring a few eyesores like the design of the symbol and the excessive panel lining, I'd say it's my favorite Spider-Man suit. I do agree that the insistence on constantly redesigning the classic suit is infuriating. I hate that superheroes aren't allowed to just look like superheroes anymore. I hate seeing Batman wearing mostly neutral gray suits that don't have the trunks. It looks like he's wearing a boiler suit. I just like how, at least at a distance, the Iconic Suit is very minimalist and clean, and again, I really like the color choice. I've noticed I tend to like Spider-Man suit designs that are like 10-20% more Nightwing than the classic suit is. Miles, Superior Spider-Man, the Alex Ross movie suit, the Upgraded Suit from Far From Home. They just look clean and sexy to me.

The media said what now 6:21 💀

Anytime I see the Marvel's Avengers webslinging i get the overwhelming urge to play Square Enix's Spider-man cause i feel like im watching someone drag through molasses while they swing around. I need that speed.

I actually didn't like the default suit at all, for me it looks like someone cosplaying as spider-man. Edit: 9:39 Also I feel like I've heard something similar about the homecoming suit aswell, I've always wondered why things have to "serve a purpose" instead of just simply being a design choice.

I remember hearing so many people makes cop-outs or some bullshit excuses about how Marvel's Avengers wasn't programmed to have him swin on open world or whatever. Anyone who thinks that way can blow me. Because fricking Fortnite showed that he CAN swing in open world location or any of the previous games since 2004 successfully. He can even surf cars in Fortnite!!!!

9:32, Hey, I actually like that costume a decent bit. I personally like the spider logo on it, as I feel Spiderman's logo can have a bit of a techy design as long as its the right size to fit the type of suit its on, and fits well with the chest placement. Though everything else you said I agree with... Its not the best but It does look kinda good.

with the release of Suicide Squad : Kill the Justice league we now know how much better the mediocre Avengers was compared to what DC did