Spider-Man: No Way Home REVIEW (NON-SPOILER + SPOILER) 

Spiderman No Way Home is my favorite spiderman movie because of the old characters and I like Tom Holland spiderman goes through loss, suffer and deals with his consequences.

@@Coolgamer.. good movie i wouldn’t say it’s masterpiece

I love how all it wraps up things for both Toby and Andrew's Spiderman as well.

@@ShadowEclipex Definitely, it was very well done for those two.

@@ShadowEclipex funny enough, we might actually be getting TASM 3

@@JoeFanik Would be kinda weird to get one after so long, but also would be kinda cool

@@JoeFanik I doubt it will happen

I mean it kinda happens when tom’s Spider-Man mentions the avengers and what he and tobey and Andrew fought but yeah I get what you mean it would be really freaking cool

No

@@deims6270 yes

Sounds like Jon Favreau's old show, Dinner For 5.

I loved the part where Andrew asked if Tom was in a band when he said he was part of the Avengers.

Makes sense, he was about to cry when Peter told him to make everyone forget

It shows that Peter earned Strange's respect. It was really sad to see that scene. I pretty much never cry at a movie but damn I began to tear up in this.

Inb4 he actually added that exception to the final spell and he remembers everything, hence why other Dr Strange cross over in the Multiverse of Madness.

Not that he didn’t complete it, but his entire schooling career is gone. Erased entirely.

@@DarlCron Fair enough.

i am so here for the character arc where peter is still just as smart, but not ever involved with school/college. we always see spiderman doing well in school if anything tardy a few times but overall good grades, not anymore tho its ged time for spidey, but that doesnt make him any less smart or capable its just the situation hes in, just like a lot of people who maybe cant do school all the way but still get their ged and stuff, especially love seeing it after how hard he stressed earlier in the movie trying to get into mit

@@peter42liter93 In actuality, Peter Parker is about as smart as Otto Octavius but he doesn't use his mind to its fullest

it's gonna be hard getting a new social security number.

@@charleswisconsin9196 he most likely used the Blip as an excuse

So, wait, does that mean that people off planet like Thor, Captain Marvel, Fury, still know who Peter is?

@@robbie1482 That's kind of unclear. The spell isn't specified to say whether or not it only effects Earth or if it extends to space. The other side is the effect of Thor, the Guardians, or Captain Marvel knowing really doesn't do much cause they aren't that close to Peter anyway to really care. Nick on the other hand likes to keep tabs but we've already gotten that story with FFH so why retread old ground?

@@veggiewillymass yea but they know of Spiderman, and it cant take Nick long to find out about Peter Parker even is he did forget.

Vincent D'Onofrio has said multiple times that he wants Kingpin to fight Spider-man before he feels comfortable retiring the character (ie letting him die). Kingpin being a Disc One Final Boss in the next Spider-man film to show that Spidey's back to fighting "badass normies" and then proceeding to reveal the Venom symbiote as the true Big Bad of the movie could be interesting. I just hope they don't make the same mistakes they did in Spider-man 3. (Disc One Final Boss kicks Spidey's ass in round 1, Spidey merges with the symbiote, Spidey easily beats Disc One Final Boss in Round 2, then realizes how evil the Symbiote is and rejects it, causing the Symbiote to merge into another person and become Venom, the true Final Boss of the film. Spider-man 3 made the mistake of teaming Venom up with Sandman when he should have just fought Spidey alone, and the Green Goblin 2 was also an antagonist no one really wanted, so it was a mess.)

@@vampman87 no one wanted new goblin, which is what we got. but alot of us were anticipating hob goblin since it was teased in SM2. iirc, no one really wanted venom, but since hes such a beloved character, everyone wouldve been ok with him being in the movie.... IF HE WAS DONE WELL. unfortunately he wasnt; the venom we got in SM3 was so poorly written that hardly anyone got on board with his arc. should have taken the time to really explore and flesh out venom's chraracter arc instead of introducing sandman, the real enemy no one wanted.

@@vampman87 Since they introduced Daredevil into the MCU, I could see them teaming up. Maybe Jameson tries to create Scorpion like he did in the comics, and the person who creates scorpion is Fisk. Spiderman figures this out and tries to stop him, but gets in over his head and teams up with Matt Murdock who does his lawyer shtick to try and put KingPin away, but Kingpin gets free, and Peter, still being pissed about the end of FFH, goes overboard and almost kills Fisk, but Daredevil steps into the middle. Daredevil and Spiderman get into a brawl where Peter ends up beating Matt, but Matt takes off his mask pleading to Peter's humanity, which results in him running away. Black Cat, aka Felicia Hardy (whom is preferably introduced to Spiderman as a cat burglar, and she tries to steal from Fisk and Spiderman helps her after she realizes how much trouble she's in) tried to comfort Peter but to no avail. Which results in Peter getting even MORE angry and that's when he finds the symbiote, which brings him into the black suit arc of Spider-Man. I could see them introducing Kraven as an antogonist, this world famous hunter with superhuman speed strength and heightened senses who learns of this newly powered up Spiderman and gets soundly beaten by him, but still manages to outsmart and outwit Spiderman. Maybe even using MJ as a hostage (which could start the trend of Peter's double life where he's trying to be with MJ as Peter, but also be with Felicia as Spiderman). I could then see a potential where Peter trains Miles Morales, but because of the events of Black Suit Spider-Man, a new sinister six is formed. Preferably Kraven the hunter, Venom (Flash Thompson), Hobgoblin (Ned), KingPin, Volture, and Scorpion. Because Peter is fighting Kraven, who almost beat him before; Ned, a best friend that doesn't remember him; Venom, whom he knows has all of his abilities, scorpion and vulture, two people Peter feels guilty about, and KingPin as the ring leader, he has to learn to trust Miles Morales (mirroring Tony's trust in Peter) and it takes the both of them to stop the Sinister Six. Or, if they choose to not introduce Miles, it could be a situation where Peter and Daredevil Team up again. Early in the fight Peter manages to get through to Ned, who goes to distract venom as Spiderman man goes to fight Kraven. Peter wins but Ned gets beaten by Venom, and Spiderman manages to destroy Venom (probably due to some science B's), returning flash to normal. During the battle, Daredevil is fighting both vulture and scorpion, but then Vulture has a change of heart and turns on Kingpin, leading to a badly injured Peter and Daredevil not being able to stop Vulture from killing Kingpin (probably because Kingpin threatened his daughter cuz... You know... Kingpin).

Jesus Christ that was longer then I meant for it to be... Good God. well... If anyone reads it, hats off to you I guess.

I couldn't care less about Black Widow, but I ended up watching it and LOVING it. Guess MJ's line about low expectation really shined there lmao (I think the concept of the soviet Captain America and the weird spy super hero family REALLY gave it charm to me. Plus I love the actor because of Stranger Things) I was really interested in Shang-Chi since they revealed the Phase 4 movies back in the day, because I love martial arts, and it was... okay. Fun, but I didn't really LOVE it.

Ned is at the crossroads for his path this run. Choose careful Wait we could combine sorcerer and Hobgoblin. What if through possibly remembering the Goblin (a form of PTSD he isn't quiet aware of) and learning magic he could become the Hobgoblin as a form of Demon. Taking on the more 'goblin' look and combining sorcerery with it for a magic glider and weapons. I lean into it as his actor said he'd love to do a Hobgoblin arc (or maybe I missheard)

That'd be great if he was actually like Ned Leeds and not a ripped off Ganke Lee Jon Watts shoved into Peter's life

@@jordanbrandon81 I do love the idea of making Ned Leeds into more of a Demogoblin instead of the traditional Hobgoblin

@@thesalinator3557 they do enjoy taking spins with characters And this way we could mix in his Wizard link and maybe even tie it to Mefisto? Precious little Angel of Ned falls

Ned is an awful character in these movies, they really should kill him off screen.

Same, I also want that for whenever Human Torch & Iceman get introduced.

@@chriscannon8144 Man, I'm so ready for the X-Men to show up. Gonna be great.

@@Darth_Xionn If they have an already established MCU hero integrate Wolverine and the X-Men, Spider-Man will be perfect for that.

Right. They already did the Green Goblin in the first two series. Pulling him again would be hard.

@@blackday1013 And redundant.

Plus why redo perfect casting already?

@@blackday1013 Plus, we just might get Hobgoblin instead if you saw all the hints.

Oh that’s true! The only reason that I can think of that he wouldn’t want to kick his ass is that even though he doesn’t know Peter, he still knows that Spider-Man did his best to save him while stopping him.

Oh that’s what I thought as well! I figured it’s PROBABLY universal since the spell was going to tear apart the entire multiverse. That would be funny if folks off world just refer to him as Peter or Parker and he both freaks and is relieved by it.

@@o0bookwyrmknight0o I can just picture Nick Fury walking up and calling him Peter, and Peter then freaking out over how he could know with Fury replying with something like "You think I wouldn't know?"

Oh my God, you’re right. They specifically go out of their way to tell us Nick Fury is off-world near the beginning. Nick Fury truly is the glue that holds the MCU together even today.

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Yeah

I'm hoping to see Ned become Hobgoblin as well. Seeing him use his fingers to make portals kinda like how Hobgoblin (and Green Goblin) can shoot lightning out their finger tips in the comics gives me hope for that. A magic wielding Hobgoblin seems badass the more I think about it. Also now that he doesn't know who Peter Parker is anymore I feel like this could set up a really dramatic sequence of events for Peter deal with.

@@AviLlaJohWil considering how Peter interacted with MJ and not Ned, that could possibly happen

@@AviLlaJohWil They set it up well too, with Garfield's Parker talking about having his friend try to kill him, then him having to kill his friend.

@@HeWhoSlayethCain that was Tobey McGuire’s Parker.

@@ArnulfoSalgado Oh, woops.

It doesn't even need to be norman osborne in name but in personality.

This could potentially bring Hobgoblin. The whole point of HG was that they wanted a new Goblin because GG was either dead or gone

i agree with this comment

On the other hand, this opens up new opportunities: Peter is now all alone so he might dawn the Black suit and hopefully meet Black Cat

When May said the line, Peter responded with "I know". So I guess the idea of the scene is less so about May imparting that wisdom unto Peter, and more so reminding him of why he does what he does. She's pulling him out of that state of self-pity he's been in due to his identity getting revealed and helping him reconnect with who Spider-Man is after the lines between Peter and Spidey were blurred. That said, I do see that May basically did replace Ben from a narrative perspective. Besides, when Ben shows up in Freshmen Year, I don't necessarily think they need to use the Great Responsibility line verbatim. Like, in Amazing Fantasy 15, the line is part of the narration box. It wasn't retconned into being something Ben said until way later. And considering that Peter says the meaning behind the line in Civil War without saying the line verbatim, I think it is possible that he received the sentiment from feeling guilty for Ben's death, but it wasn't put into those iconic words until May said them.

aunt mays death was my only problem with this movie. lets say uncle ben DOESNT exist in this universe. even without uncle ben existing the moment aunt may dies still feels unnecessary because this peter even without uncle ben has already been through the pain of losing a mentor/parental figure with tony stark dying in endgame. and the whole reason tony stark died was literally because he ended up being a living example of “great power great responsibility” by sacrificing himself for the whole universe, and peter witnesses that firsthand. so not only has he already had a mentor/parent die but they also died imparting some wisdom to him hence why he says “i know” when aunt may dies telling him. idk man i know aunt may HAD to die because the writers really wanted everyone to forget who peter parker is and having aunt may alive would complicate that, its just her whole death and the way it was handled left a bad taste in my mouth from an otherwise really good fun movie with a lot of heart. also where is uncle bens gravestone? i dont even care if the moment happened with ben and peter anymore at this point i really do just wanna see some ACTUAL proof that uncle ben existed besides some letters on a briefcase that could actually mean anything

@@peter42liter93 I actually didn't mind that Aunt May died. Not because I disliked her or anything like that; rather, I took a different viewpoint of it all. Ben's death was about "the cost of inaction when you have the power to take action", while May's death is more about "no good deed goes unpunished", to quote Green Goblin in the film. Imo, this movie was to teach Peter that sometimes, no matter how hard you try and regardless of your intentions, bad things will happen. It also teaches Peter about how you are defined not by the bad or good things in your life, but in your actions during those good or bad moments. That was my takeaway from the movie, and what I always liked about Spider-Man; he always tries to save people, taking the path less travelled, not the easy path.

@@pfagan24 i can get where you’re coming from, but the whole “no good deed goes unpunished” lesson was also learned when the villains themselves just decided that they dont want peters help, aunt may didnt really have to die for him to learn that bad things will still happen even when trying to be good. idk to me at least it just felt like the writers decided to kill aunt may because they were really hell bent determined on the spell specifically being “everyone forgets peter parker” when instead it couldve been “everyone forgets spiderman is peter parker” cuz with that aunt may could live with no problems but if the spell is everyone forgets only peter parker exists then that gets complicated if aunt may is still alive. so yeah basically just feel like aunt may died cuz the writers wanted her to instead of because it was necessary for the plot, which im not a fan of it kinda just took me out of the movie. but ey everyone can have their own opinion and i dont hate people who like what i dont

@@peter42liter93 I understand your point too, and you're entitled to your opinion too. If you didn't like it, that's perfectly fine. I just think the villains just deciding they don't want his help anymore doesn't actually fit the punished for a good deed theme. If they went with "you can't save everyone", then the villains turning him down makes enough sense, but it's not really a punishment for them to just say no. It could have been Ned or MJ in May's place, but someone was definitely going to have to be truly hurt (at minimum) because of Peter's actions for the good deed punishment to work. Slap on wrist vs cutting off a hand, sort of thing. Again those are my thoughts on it, and you're absolutely welcome to disagree. Either way, it was a pretty damned impressive movie they had almost no chance of pulling off, but they damn well did imo.

Also they seem to be moving towards Black Suit Spiderman and the College Sagas. It's likely then an MCU version of Gwen Stacy or Felicia Hardy will take up the love interest roles.

@@ssjjshawn Which I'm perfectly fine with.

That’s both super sad because all three of them have great chemistry together but if it’s what they see as a fitting end I’m okay with that.

Yeah, that’s like the one missed opportunity in this movie for me lol.

I thought that too

He pulled a Buu

Scott: Stephan he stole your due! Stephan: I'll f*cking kill him (tackles Lani)

And all it took was taking other directors villains who actually have a connection to spider-man

Yeah, which is why he was entrusted with the Eye of Agamotto at the end of his solo movie, which is the Sorcerer Supreme's job.

That means wong went to a cage fight as the most important sorcerer on earth lmao

@@Couldbedumber I like to think of that scene is Wong giving him a therapy session. Dude has a lot of issues to work out.

And then once Dr. Strange grabs the box again, I was like “oh yeah!” And as soon as I saw the bomb inside of it, I immediately said “oh no!”

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but also, sometimes some folks tend to FORCE their hatred of something to get rage clicks. I am also tired of the “woke SJW bullshit” complaints, especially when like…..where? Was it MJ? Was it May? Was it Jameson selling vitamin pills???

What‘s funny, is that the people that say that kinda stuff for content also made videos about how a Spiderman movie being massively successful is evidence of audiences rejecting the M SHE U agenda or something lol

2nd being next year.