@@neon-brian6155 He had more of inpact on Gwenpool than Spider-Man tbh. He was also in Avengers:Earth Mightiest Heroes cartoon and had Deadshots costume. Besides wouldn't by your logic Taskmaster and Doctor Doom be Spider-Man villains?
In the Web of Shadows game, his main motivation in that story was to find his sister and make sure she was safe. Unfortunately, she was infected with a symbiote and turned him into a venomized-Electro. Maybe future adaptations could do something with his sister, because he apparently also has one in the comics but barely gets brought up.
Seriously? How is Electro the worst Spiderman villain? There are literally other worst villains like Screwball, the Wall, and the Big Wheel. Just because Electro has basic motivations doesn't make him bad.
Don't forget Carnage: By the logic presented here, he's the actual worst Spider-Man villain, because he's literally just a bloodhound, and little-to-nothing else.
@@scottreacher Hey, he can be positive, but I’m just mad he’s spitting crap at my boy when WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse villains exist. You don’t need to be complex to be beloved.
“Stupid fun”? I will never understand people who praise shit for being bad. Electro isn’t even stupid fun, I like him because you can get creative with him.
I liked Spectacular's Electro, he has his own degression throughout the show. In his first episode we see him desperate for a cure and to be normal again and live his life, when that fails he turns to the only person who reached out to him after what he's done but ends up being used, and in season 2 he's essentially given up on a cure rejecting his old identity and accepting his new life as Electro to the point where the last time we see him he's in a seclusion room screaming "Don't Know Anyone Named MAX! My Name's ELECTRO! ELECTRO I TELL YOU!". We followed his journey, from the accident, a victim Spidey mistakingly judges as a criminal ultimately becoming one, to his descent into Madness. Also, Crispin Freeman does an amazing job voicing him
Spectacular Electro NEEDS more love his PAINFUL transformantion and SCREAMS AND CRIES FOR HELP the they YELLING at the end where he's tired of being bullied and attacked by everyone when he just wanted a cure to get his normal body back to get his dreams relized and when that didn't happend he's only resort is Dr Octopus and then in season 2 him and Otto and Eddie just straight us said fuck our old lives with Otto being Master Planner Electro having PTSD about Max and even when Eddie is STRAPPED to a hospital bd he's STILL refering to himself as Venom using plural pronouns
Istg spectacular electro is a trans allegory, the way he's always like "Im not max dillon anymore. My name is electro" and corrects people whenever they get it wrong
@@Coconut_Prrsonyou cannot be serious right now 💀 That’s like praising someone with anorexia for correcting others who tell them that they aren’t overweight
@@spidermaniaYou sure about that ? didn't he have a backstory of being abused by his dad and an entire orphanage which caused him to turn into a maniac in the comics.
I feel like not every villain needs a sad backstory that instantly makes you feel bad for them and sympathize with them. It's a thing I'm noticing in a lot of villains nowadays and it makes me miss those old evil douchebags that just do evil shit to be evil, I'm glad electro isn't the case here, it's one of the main reasons i couldn't really vibe well with Batman villains because ALL of them are guys that were led down a dark path in life that made them who they are and as cool as it is especially since it works well for Batman it kinda just makes it a lil less entertaining imo. I'm glad a majority of Spidey villains aren't like that such as shocker, electro, scorpion, green goblin (to some extent), chameleon, vulture, kingpin, etc. call me crazy but i really do prefer the evil D bags compared to sympathetic villain. (Not saying i hate sympathetic villains because venom is my all time fav of the bunch).
Right, and in the origin comic he literally said he doesn't do anything for nobody. So why would he use his powers to better the world once he got them? Not all villains need to be tragic or relatable, and I use relatable loosely
I would LOVE for you to do a video comparing EVERY version of Electro to Ironman Armored Adventures's "Living Lazer". Cause there's alot of overlap between the characters. Beyond the powersets, the "pure energy forms", they also have VERY similar personalities of wanting to be bigshots, feelings of inatiquicy, always feeling belittled, ESPECIALLY by the main hero they fight. I still say it's SUPER worth a video because. . . how Armored Adventures wrote The Living Laser, to me, THAT'S how you should write Electro.
I mean, in all seriousness, Walrus is a D-List villain that is supposed to be either an ineffective joke or a surprisingly capable contract killer that everyone thinks is a joke. Either role he plays pretty well. Electro is an A-List villain whose motivations are incredibly shallow and whose personality barely even exists. He's pretty bad in the role of A-List villain.
electro is a badass Spider-Man in tasm2 his character was different from the comics he is just a broken person and thought the world hated and saw him as in outcast so he gets powers and doesn’t rob banks he wants everyone suffer the pain that they caused him so they can see him as a god.
"The man shoots electricity ...so he wears a green and yellow suit with a star for a head?" My dude the main character of these comics is a teenage kid who runs around in red and blue pajamas calling himself Spider-Man.
True i'v always like them more secondary villains like Sandman,Shocker and Lizard (Dr Connors and Flint Marko for real need to be used more as the main antagonist)
I think everything you say is exactly why he's so popular and adapted to many sm things. He's just a fun villain you can throw in a Game as a side Boss and not have to make him Deep. He's just a guy with powers
Always find Electro to be a meh villain. He is powerful, but do feel he is one-note overall. I bet you grinned when he was killed off in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 as even Kraven finds him lame.
It sucks to see how Electro is treated because he's my favorite villain. Electric powers are more OP than people give it credit for which is what drew me to him. Having a god complex is probably the best thing for his characterization but the way they go about it, especially in TASM2, it's just done poorly. It's sad how little they care about Electro because he can be a real great character if they tried
electro is not the worst spiderman villain there are much worst villains in Spider-Man's rogues gal, just because he's one not doesn't mean he's bad he serves a purpose
He’s actually my favorite Spider-Man villain ever since that universal ride , idk something about he he’s so simplistic compared to his other villains makes him unique . Sometimes you need that villain of the week who just wants to rob banks .
He's very cinematic actually and i think it's because he's visually interesting everyone's keen on him. Also also in the Gauntlet storyline he kinda has a social justice occupy wall Street nuance
I don't know why, but I have an irrational love for Electro, and in every piece of media a version of him appears in, he's automatically my favorite character (except the Insomniac games, I liked Scorpion more). Seeing him get hated on makes me sad, but I understand why people hate at least the comic book versions of him 'cuz he's blander than bread in most of them.
I didn’t really care for Light The Night. The story that did follow it up was a lot better (And it made sense with the Light The Night story.). Electro actually made Spider-Man BEG for his life ! X-Man had to help him. He appeared to die at the end , and that should have been his final comic story. Too bad.
I think a decently interesting part of Electro is that he’s often stuck the way he is. But if he puts his mind to it, he could be so much more powerful. So much more dangerous. I think it’d be interesting to give him a ATSV Spot treatment. Kind of like Light the Night. All that separates Electro and Spot from being real threats are their mindsets. Not that Electro ever was a complete laughing stock like Spot was, but he could do much, much more than robbing banks and such.
Actually you got it wrong. Despite all flaws, 'TASM2' Electro actually has a point, he wants to have the power plant, not just for the energy he wants but also because it belonged to him. Max was the one who designed the power grid and got all his work stolen from him by Oscorp, which is the whole thing about Jamie Foxx Electro, he just wants to have what belongs to him back, his legacy, his reputation, his life, all taken by a higher power. He's basically like Arthur Fleck, the world is constantly bashing on him and people just step on him like nothing happened, so he uses power to not only be on top, he wants to be seen, it's a cry for help. Also he died on his birthday, so it's like power was his gift and he won't give up on it. I just feel sad that they didn't make a good job conveying all of this. At least he got a second chance in 'Spider-Man - No Way Home'. I'd love to see what happened to him after he got taken back.
I have couple of ideas - using his powers is so addicting and he doesn't rob banks, instead jusy goes to places with most elecricity to feel powerful -make him feel unimportant like adaptations do, maybe his parents favored his sister or something -have more team ups with Blizzard the Iron Man villain.
@@kendi5391 my ideas of electro is a dude with family: -sister with a child (the electro`s nephew) -with a normal job -poor with money problem. -one day he is kidnapped and turned into a mercenary -but he rebels who turned him into a "monster"
Actually he was made fairly sympathetic in that one story were he is revealed to have a been screwed over by his company and became a leader of the people against the 1%.
I really like his appearance in Spider-Man Web of Shadows. He’s not a huge part of the game but what we see of him, he’s basically a schizo trying to help his sister even if that means messing up the city and running through shield containment setups. You get the sense that he’s not really evil, but he’s just kinda crazy and it makes him do things and act out without thinking.
Reminds me of what GodzillaMendoza said about Electro, saying he was there just to fill up the roster too. I mean I still like Electro, but I can't deny he's definitely simple. But that's fine.
Hydroman fits the description of a bland villain much better and to think that people actually complained after he was given a more defined character in the Spider-Man show from the 90's.
@@Coconut_Prrson Yeah but with how long he's been around people just don't love The Vulture. But I gotta say I liked him using child soldiers in Superior Spider-Man
Dispite that Electro is my second in my top 5 favorite Spiderman villains 1 Venom(Eddie Brock) 2 Electro(Max Dillion) 3 Dr Octopus(Otto Octavius) 4 Sandman(Flint Marko) 5 Green Goblin(Norman Osborn) I won't bash you for your opinion plus I like your content and I myself and others have villains that everyone else sees as S-Tier that I don't like Poison Ivy from Batman or Cody Leach with The Penguin mainly due to Cody finding Penguin too goofy or boring and I find Poison Ivy to just be repetative and duel plus her writting like Harley's is all over the place and just NEVER been one of my favorites
Here is my unwarranted concept for an electro origin story: Max Dillon is your average man, down on his luck, his uncle died, his girlfriend dumped him because he is broke, and everybody at his job at (insert name of evil marvel science company here) makes fun of and pranks him. Until one day his coworkers prank him by tripping him up into a tank or mutant electric eels. He survives but he is disfigured, he can get treatment for his disfigurements but he can't afford it. He realizes almost all his cor and maybe even his manager had a hand in this. Meanwhile he learns about his electric powers and decides to get revenge on his coworkers and manager using his power. As Spider-Man has to prevent Max from what he is about to do. Feel free to tell me what you'd change about his origin or if you just like it. Please only constructive criticism.
That's a shocking surprised how about for electro he wants respect and the reason why he wants power because people who are Richer than him makes fun of him because he is election that's fix electric stuff
TASM # 422,423 and 425 Web of spider man 2009 #2 TASM # 612, 613 and 614 these are 3 stories that are about electro's fear of being a nobody just like light the night. actually do you research before making a video claiming something this stupid.
I don't think Electro is the worst but I do have a potential change in mind that might make his dynmatic interesting for you. Instead of having him get his powers via a freak electric accident, make him a mutant that has no interest what so ever in the whole back and forth between human and mutant coexistence vs mutant supremacy. Being one of the few to even refuse to live on Krakota later on.
Y'know I just (almost) finished 90's spider man and is it weird that I don't really mind the change.Also spectacular made it clear he had given up on himself.Also Also didn't you say in your shocker video that you would be fine with boring bland villains.Now who would people prefer to be boring.A guy who was always boring or a badass who becomes boring.
Unrelated side not but in Spectacular while that's my second favorite Otto it kinda bugs me on how unlike Spiderman 2 where he has a problem with the tenticals but essintally gets hypnotized by them in the show Green Goblin turns him into Octopus and he's just like" I'mma go to the fair and beat the shit outta some random people" usually Dr Octopus only fights who's in his way and it's jaring how Otto is PERFECTLY fine with the fact that he'll most likely have those arms on him forever controlling his mind and his first concern is " where's Spiderman I wanna kill him"
we need a spider-man equivalent to batman the animated series that finally gives all these bad guys the depth and character they deserve so they can actually have interesting roles in his stories rather than possessing one of peter's best friends or being an angry punching bag
If they took the 616 design, beef him up, make him tower over Spider-Man a little bit, and make him a little more menacing and OP, I think he could potentially be a cooler villain then what he is now
I like it how in Spectacular and TASM 2 Electo is portayed their as like Peter he didn't pick his power and relistically being made of light and elecricity would suck as really you would have no point in life besides fighting
Some things don’t need to change though, and imo he’s actually a breath of fresh air. I feel like comic book media for the most part has really gone away from simplicity: Simple villains with simple motives. Everybody nowadays has to have some super deep backstory or be a sympathetic villain/borderline antihero. And there are so many of them that at this point, the simple bad guys that are just evil because they’re evil people/assholes are the ones that are rare and interesting. A lot of times the best villains are people that are just naturally evil and do bad things because they’re evil and they simply want to. #1 example is the Joker. Or in this case with Electro, good villains can also be ones with the simple motivations. And he’s also a breath of fresh air in the sense that his character has stayed the most consistent over the years. Now, I’m not saying that villains shouldn’t have tragic backstories or sympathetic motivations, because obviously those make for interesting characters too. But we can switch it up every now and again and they don’t all have to be misunderstood. To me, at the root, villains aren’t people I wanna root for or that should be rooted for. That’s the hero. And sometime simplicity is the best.
I'm sorry but the actual worst Spider-Man villain is Scorpion. There can be a certain humor and tragedy in that Electro could potentially be either the most powerful supervillain/most helpful superhero, but he chooses to rob banks. Stories with Electro/Max Dillon usually have him be an entertaining jobber who's kind of an idiot, retconning that he was poorly educated and that he had an abusive childhood that stunted his development, explaining why he never learns from his mistakes. Mac Gargan/the Scorpion gets no such expansion. He was created specifically for the one purpose of killing Spider-Man and he couldn't even do that right--he knocked Spidey unconscious in his first appearance and instead of finishing him off, Gargan decided "no one can stop me, I'll kill everybody here" and went on a mindless power-mad rampage. Despite ostensibly having abilities that directly counter Spider-Man's while supposedly being much stronger overall, Gargan is a complete dunce and is consistently outwitted. He doesn't even get a sad backstory--he was a private detective, and not a good one, and Jameson decided to enlist him for the Scorpion experiment. That's it. Any kind of spice to Scorpion's story usually has more to do with Jameson than Gargan himself. When he became the next host for the Venom symbiote he couldn't even use it nearly as effectively as Brock did. In Peter's words, "a loser with the Venom symbiote is still a freaking loser."
I always thought Electro never really stood out of all the main apider-man villains. Like characters like Sandman and Schocker, he is just a bankrobber. But he doesn't really have that much personality appart from "im evil muahahaha". The only reason Electro is so popular is because people think electric powers are cool
I get it doesn't work for everyone but I like Electro being just a narrow minded petty criminal that got powers by accident and doesn't even know how to make the most of it. You'd think not all criminals would be brilliant masterminds, you'd get these losers around also showing up when you have better things to do. You need the petty criminals so when Green Goblin or Octopus shows up they look way more menacing by comparison. You need some mediocre villains who are just that, mediocre without any room for growth. Not to be main antagonist but half step above henchman so Spider is not fighting some random guy without a chance, but neither the biggest threat ever. Doc Ock, Green Goblin, these guys are the weekend special it will take all his time and attention to win. Elektro is more the matinee thing you deal with but it is not gonna change your life and you can go on a date with MJ after.
We are talking main spider-man villains. Electro is very surface level and out of all the best villains, he has the least depth. There's a reason they change his backstory in every single adaptation. Because there's nothing to adapt
@@Coconut_Prrson he never stated main villain he just says Spider-Man’s worst villain he’s had a lot of villains whom have been stinkers electro is no where near the worst
@@freshstudios5533 the intentions were really clear. Just because it's not explicitly stated it doesn't mean it wasn't written all over the video. At no point does he compare it to anyone who isn't a main villain
@@Coconut_Prrson ‘at no point does he compare him to anyone who isn’t a main villain’ yeah sure since when is prowler a main villain to Peter Parker like all the other he mentioned ?? Yeah he may be a main villain to miles but he has never been a main villain to Peter who all the other villains are main villains to soooooo Yeah your wrong lol
@@freshstudios5533 because Prowler isn't a villain in 616 appart from his first appereance. And he still is one of the most well known ones. And even if he wasn't? the only time he mentions him is to say "why doesnt this other villain get more recognition and use instead"
Not count as a electro adaptation but in the moon girl series appesr Allison Dillon the electro daugther But works his goal si obtain power because she like being a electric woman and his intimidating
