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How to determine electric service size in a split buss electric panel

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@raymondgarafano8604
@raymondgarafano8604 2 года назад
I have seen these, back in the 70's there were 2 60 amp fuses and two 40's I was told were for the range and I had to figure if stove was fully used there'd be like 20 amps left to light the house. I know because I pulled the mains and the stove would not work either. Well, if the kitchen light was on and everyone piggin out it didn't matter if no other lights were on. . .
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 Год назад
Yep, on a house where the stove, water heater, heating and dryer are all natural gas or propane, a 60 amp service can go a lot farther but they never have enough circuits available.
@Zack216216
@Zack216216 4 года назад
You sound exactly like Pete Seeger!
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 4 года назад
I enjoyed it
@palangnar3588
@palangnar3588 4 года назад
I have a same type panel but not spilt, anyway i want to use two empty 15amp fuse to make one 20 amp circuit to use for electric baseboard Heaters, what should i do to the panel.( two 15 amp, together to get 20 amp)
@wizard3z868
@wizard3z868 3 года назад
you wld just need to wire the baseboard heater with no 12 guage that is rated for 20 amps and use a 20 amp fuse if you need 220/240 consult a pro as you should not be attempting this with a fuse panel you have no clue what you are doing
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 Год назад
In order to add 220 volt circuit to a fuse panel you would need either an unused spare pullout block in the panel that disconnects both 20 amp cartridge fuses simultaneously when you pull it out, or add a subpanel with a double pole 20 amp breaker. You can't just used two screw in fuses in the panel as this is not safe.
@palangnar3588
@palangnar3588 Год назад
@@Progrocker70 I done it long time ago, and done it by code, everything working right.
@jaycole3768
@jaycole3768 2 года назад
Can it be back powered
@frankpaya690
@frankpaya690 2 года назад
Aren't the ranges usually 50 amps?
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 7 лет назад
60 amp and 100 amp split bus fuse panels look alike, the difference is that on the 60 amp panels the Range pullout is supplied from the Main fuse pullout, so pulling it shuts off everything. I never understood the reasoning for the split bus, you have 100 available amps but 40 amps is only alotted to the range pullout. Maybe it was to avoid redesigning the panels to use 100 amp fuses, although there are fuse panels with 100 amp and even larger main pullout blocks.
@raymondgarafano8604
@raymondgarafano8604 2 года назад
I am told that if the panel is rated 60 amps, it shall not be provided with a feeder rated more than what the panel is rated for. I have seen split bus panels for circuit breakers and heard of split P's for fuses but never saw one. The split panel I did see was set up so all 240 v circuits were on the upper half, range, water heater, A/C clothes dryer and 1 2 pole breaker to supply the lower half used for 120 v or smaller branch circuits.
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 2 года назад
@@raymondgarafano8604 A split bus fuse panel will have mains rated 100-200 amp. They have one 60 amp pullout for the 120 volt plug fuse circuits, and one or more cartridge fuse pullouts supplied directly from the line terminals for 220 volt appliances. It could be one just one pullout marked Range, which were common in my area where major appliances are mostly natural gas. A larger split bus panel could have up to 4 or 6 fuse pullouts each coming directly from the line terminals. This six pulls would've still met the code's six disconnect rule. The 60 A panels were not split bus.
@johnnykurplutzo6789
@johnnykurplutzo6789 2 года назад
I remember having orange fuses. Now they are red and green
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 Год назад
15's were always blue, 20's orange or red, and 30's green, that has been the standard forever.
@vboutique2188
@vboutique2188 Год назад
Can you add a full breaker box as a sub panel to a current fuse box?
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 Год назад
Yes you can, provided the panel is in decent shape and not burnt or rusted. There's a couple ways. Most fuse panels have feed or tap lugs coming from the main fuse block, where you can tap off using three #6 or #4 wires which run to and connect to the lugs in your subpanel. In the panel shown in the video, the lugs are on the left and right of the top of the Main fuse pullout. In most panels they're under the plug fuses. If you can still see or read the wiring diagram on the door it tells you where these subfeed lugs are. The subfeed lugs are protected by your main fuses. If the range pullout isn't being used, you could also feed the subpanel from this pullout block, but be sure to check the wiring diagram and see what the limit of amps you can draw from the Range pullout. Many ranges back then were 40 amp, and often the lugs for the Range pull are limited to 40 amp, even though 40 and 60 amp fuses are the same size. Often the lugs will be smaller too. Some I've seen allow full 60 amps thru the Range pull but not all of them. Remember though that it it is a 100 amp panel, whether you use the subfeed lugs or a pullout, your limited to 60 amps feeding the sub.
@ig_foobar
@ig_foobar 7 лет назад
Are we sure it's a split bus? Seems like it might just be miswired.
@StructureTech1
@StructureTech1 7 лет назад
Yes, a lot of old fuse panels were manufactured this way.
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 6 лет назад
I understand it was cheaper to make them this way, they didn't have to use 100 amp main fuses.
@davidcooley275
@davidcooley275 3 года назад
@@StructureTech1 Very true. Mine was built in 1945 and works perfect in 2021 with 20 amp fuses. I do not stress it but it does work fine with a a/c and tv running at same time.
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