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MKLeo is the only player I've seen that is completely 100% immune to tilting or being discouraged. He has a mentality of steel. He could be 3-stocked twice in a row, down 2-0 in a set, and then be like "Hold up, I'm up MKLeo", and get a reverse sweep without batting an eye.
"MkLeo is the only *Smash* player that is 100% immune to tilting* This is why i both love MKLeo so much and vehemently dislike the Smash community. MKLeo is the only smash player who reminds me of top Level FGC players. Dudes like Combofiend, Chris G, Sonic Fox, FilipinoChamp, Justim Wong, Diago, Qudans, GO1, Dogura, Kazunoko, Moke, Nakkiel, etc are dudes with nerves of absolute adamantium! The smash community in general just have a different mindset when it comes to competition. Most of them (even the best) are really casuals who mastered 1 fighting game while other top fighting game players mastered the art of *competition*. Sm4sh is the perfect example of this. Literally every top tier character in the game got nerfed into the ground due to the cry of casuals so now its a broken watered down mess of a game. ZeR0, Hbox, and the old school Melee dudes like Ken and Isai were/are also cut from the same cloth that true competitors are woven from. Too bad Zero retired and HBox mostly focuses on Melee and streaming. Those are the only two dudes in the smash community who have a chance to dethrone MKLeo but as Zero says: "since Smash players make 10% of what other fighters pay, its more lucrative for smashers to just become personalities instead of grinding for tourney wins"
Nairo is just really popular and Mkleo isn't. Remember when leo played Ike, and everybody called him braindead for playing a braindead hero? Then he switched to Joker, and everyone said Joker is just too good and Leo's getting carried by his character. It's stupid. Props to Nairo tho, wasn't expecting it to be this close.
I honestly feel like Nairo has so much potential he just needs to find a character that fits his play style perfectly, while Palutena is definitely high tier I feel like for a player as aggressive as Nairo she doesn’t complement him as well as she should.
Which is probably why his Ganondorf is fire! Unfortunately for Nairo there’s a lot of mismatches with him and it’s hard playing Ganondorf in brackets. I could see a character like Roy that would fit him well
Crazy how close each of this specific tournaments games get when these pros face MKLeo. IMO Zackray started the trend of avoiding Arsene before Samsora did but Sam did it better. Leo is only winning by the skin of his teeth since then. Yeah his composure is key and so is his skill, but these guys are REALLY adapting to Leo’s Joker and it’s amazing to watch. GGs Nairo 💯
its more amazing to watch Leo, imo. The fact that he has such a target on his back and everyone is adapting and putting more time into their play to beat his joker yet he still wins pretty much everything shows that he is far and away the best player in Ultimate, and will be his whole life.
nah man watch leo's set with kameme (the only person to beat leo at evo). kameme avoids arsene but also mixes his approaches up by playing the run away game during one period arsene is on, and then attacking another. i would highly recommend checking it out again, incredible play by kamemme.
Nairo: Simply grabs a high percent Leo and backthrows to obvious kill. Crowd: *goes nuts* Leo: Makes higher risk plays to get kills offstage. Crowd: *yawn* Jesus, the hate towards Leo is real.
Seriously...like I can kinda get it because Leo does pull these off more than often but give him credit for actually pulling them off like you people don’t see other Joker mains pulling these thing off
Probably, because Leo is a guest. If the tournament was hosted outside the US, believe me, the whole crowd would always be with Leo. Nothing wrong with the crowd wanting an American to win. Outsiders, nonetheless, are still watching and appreciating the great player that Leo is. His resilience is quite insane, more than his playstyle. I mean don't get me wrong, he plays very good. But I've seen many players choke on the big stage that having a talent doesn't matter if you're all nervous.
@@pianosonata5029 The crowd wasn't cheering for Mkleo because he was a guest they wanted Nairo to win because Leo is the current #1 and they wanted the upset. He's a good player, the fact that he's beating these players who are adapting to playing against Joker it's amazing.
It’s not hate lol, it’s rooting for the underdog. It’s like rooting for ZeRo after his 44th tournament win in a row, seeing the same person win over and over isn’t that fun to watch, but seeing an underdog come out on top is hype. Why root for the best player? I know Leo deserves everything he gets, he’s incredibly good, but the crowd doesn’t hate Leo, they’re rooting for the underdogs.
Leo’s adaptability as well as his calm in the face of odds stacked against him are two traits *well* beyond his years. Also these two traits will carry over and be invaluable in whatever vocational path he takes after his Smash career. Really just can’t understate how impressive this kid is.
I think Palutena is one of the characters out there that can actually avoid the edge guarding of Joker. The only problem is Arsene but I feel like the match up is doable. After seeing Peach I kinda feel like Palutenas tools actually have more variety than Peach.
Peach’s ledge trapping and camping with turnips are suuuper helpful against arsene tho. Like Samaria made it look easy beating arsene by just camping worth peach. Palutena cant do that as well tbh.
@@eM-kb6sm Palutena can ledge trap Joker for sure but she can’t really camp as well as peach can due to Palutena’s projectiles being laggy as shit compared to Turnip
@@stevendaily3695 Sorry sir, did I offend your sensitivities? Nairo was and probably still is a good player. He existed. He fucked up, he also got fucked up by Society at the Whims of a Predator (Which is what Captain Zack is) and now he is not part of the Community. He didn't stop existing and his skills are still recognized as top of the pack. Denying the past is stupid
Leo played out of his mind and back then these were my two favorite players so it was hard to root for one over the other...now it’s pretty one sided. I’ll miss u Nairo
Can i just say this is thr best combination of commentors. The same as that "shy girl in highschool discovers patreon" moment we love in another Lep vs Nairo set😂
People are starting to catch on to Leo's joker: Marss, Tweek, Zackray, Nairo, Samsora and Kameme... They've all shown Leo isn't invincible anymore. He will have to find a secondary eventually
yet Leo has still managed to beat them all, each time bar once. Leo's not invincible, but he's far and away the best player ever in ultimate and will never have to find a secondary. goat for life
These two are among my favorite pro Smash players. I was rooting for Nairo on this one but I completely understand losing to MKLeo. The man is a legend with undying willpower and mental fortitude. Does not crack at all.
I really like Leo's joker without Arsene, but I hate that when someone does a good combo then Leo gets Arsene and destroys his opponent in like 3 hits.
MK Leo's Joker is probably the only Joker in existence that isn't mainly just *Gets beaten up* *Wins for it* He still wins for getting beaten up sometimes and wins for it, but his non-arsene Joker is still extremely deadly. One of the only few Joker mains that regularly gets kills without needing Arsene.
They both played really well!! I haven’t see this one yet but this one kept me on the edge of my seat!! I’ve always been a huge fan of Nairo, he did a great job! Kudos to you Leo!
Imo i always said that out of all players Nairo is one of the best likely to beat Leo, this set proved i was right. Really curius to see a rematch in future.
@@biffyguybiffy6292 1) Nairo has beaten MkLeo in Ultimate, is not like since those weren't PGR events those wins doesn't count lol 2) He may have lost this time but cmon this set was close af 3) Talking about Samsora who is one of my favourite, that's a stupid comparation, he may have beat MkLeo but HOW MANY times they meet in bracket every tournaments, and how many times Leo dominated the set?
Leo is a monster win three major tournaments and all was in losers i didn’t watch a lot of this since I was busy but he samsora was a win away of wining th e tournament and Leo did what he did in evo then that’s a monster player right her in ultimate
The mislick at the end was that Nairo was trying to fair which he uses the second stick for, and on default controls the second stick is a smash attack stick, so Nairo landed on the ground too early and it came out as an fsmash when he flicked the thicc sticc
Everyone's biased against MKLeo because he's been winning tournaments left and right with arguably the best character in the game. People like rooting for the underdog.
@@Nova225 I understand that, but the casters should really be trying their best to be neutral when casting a match. To push the scene, they should be trying to commentate on MKLeo's legendary status as well, just like in League how Faker was put on a pedestal. It's much healthier for the growth of the scene overall.
JuanPa JU Nah, they arent (except cinnpie lol, wtf 14 years old). They are just young and they have every time on the world to get mature, better person. So if your life its based on being a judge, so sad for u. Their cases never surpassed to major damages thanks to god. Or tell me why the victims never took the legal ways? Cuz wasnt a problem back them. At the end It was just media lynching dude, so stop being a fckn judge. Just a bunch a kids and sjw ruining lives instead taking legal actions.
Man, Nairo got robbed of that 0-death at the start of game 5, purely because Leo got Arsene for taking damage.. Nairo showing he can seriously compete with Palu :)
This match was actually very important because it proves that Leo is beatable but people were doing it wrong. I think next tournament, if people do what Nairo and Samsora did, Leo is gonna lose.
For everyone saying to nerf Joker, why would they do such a thing hes already good the way it is, just because you see someone being good with a character doesnt mean its broken its just the player that makes it broken. For example samsora, “they should nerf him” but no just because hes the underdog and hasnt won many tournaments means that they should not nerf her, comenon peach has RNG with the bomb and the stichface. Or Tweek Pokemon Trainer wasnt much but all of a sudden tweek made pokemon trainer good, so that tells me that the player is the person that makes the characters good.
Man I’d be so tilted if I was Nairo and came sooo close to getting that first stock in game 5. I knew as soon as he messed up that he would lose from being mad at himself for that mistake
I love nairos play style with palutena but I think palutenas counter/reflect should be utilized when off stage, as MKleo likes to use his projectile when he has arsen as an off stage hit box
I hate how they be cheering other folks but not Mkleo?? Why cause he's the number 1 in the world and people tired of watching him body fools?! Smh, I mean when he wins and they don't cheer? Makes it even better! Haha
Benado it’s not that he got worse it’s that everyone else who was rising in the ranks of smash 4 got better(Leo tweek samsora mars and light). Also his main got changed(for the better imo) as well so that would also likely effect where he is on the pgr