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Star Ocean First Departure R - SP: Everything You Need To Know 

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Clearing up any possible confusion on SP, skills, specialties, item creation, super specialties, etc.
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@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
I'm seeing a jump in views on this video following the announcement of the new Star Ocean game. I'm glad to see a bunch of people getting excited for this game while we wait for the new one! While you're here, what do you think about the new game? Will it be good? Did you like Integrity and Faithlessness and will it be a repeat of that? Do you think the character models of the new game are derpy as shit? Feel free to have a heated debate below! :)
@CenturianEagle
@CenturianEagle 9 месяцев назад
The divine force was great! I haven’t beaten it but I’ve played quite a bit and enjoyed it a lot before getting distracted from other games but i want to come back to it asap. I played this game for snes way back in the day around the time it first got patched, but i was so young and it was so long ago I don’t remember anything really. So im happy to play first departure which I just purchased. Are you excited for the second story remake!? I can’t wait!!!!
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 9 месяцев назад
@@CenturianEagle Nice! It took me a while to beat that one, I also kept getting distracted. It was good though! And I'm SO excited! I'm buying a PS5 just to play it!
@CenturianEagle
@CenturianEagle 9 месяцев назад
@@jishna5090 yeah there’s been a lot of good games lately and even more on the way! Certainly easy to pick games up and not finish them. That’s awesome I didn’t even realize that the Star ocean 2 remake was coming to ps5 I thought it was just the switch. Good call on getting a ps5, I need to do that myself I’m missing out too much! I have an Xbox X but I haven’t been able to play ff16 and I haven’t been able to forgive myself for missing ff7 remake- now with part 2 of the ff7 remake on the way I really need to get one ! Sorry for the long comment. But I also have another question- do you remember where to get determination? I haven’t gotten far yet in this one I’ve only just went back in time and delivered the statue to the item shop. Will I simply find it by progressing naturally?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 9 месяцев назад
@@CenturianEagle I feel the same way, there's so much good exclusive stuff on PS5. I also have a large library on there from my PS4 days, so I've been wanting to get that back! And you'll have to buy it at a shop with the 3 dudes. It's been a while. I searched and it seems to be at these places: Portmith, Autanim, Tatroi, Astral City, Tropp, Safe House
@CenturianEagle
@CenturianEagle 9 месяцев назад
@@jishna5090 thanks for the reply ! I appreciate it. I hope you enjoy your ps5! And Star ocean 2, I’ll be looking out for any videos you may make on it
@Expelsword014
@Expelsword014 3 года назад
I know this is a pretty old video, so there's not much use in commenting at this point. This video does cover how to break the game with IC in very broad strokes, and will definitely help players, but it's missing a couple key things. The biggest thing missing is a mention of the Violin song "Hail the Goddess", which increases IC success rate while it's playing (Super Specialty Orchestra also does this, and makes it easier for characters to learn Talents as well). Determination is just as valuable as you say, but I have never found the Training or Comprehension Specialties to be worth the massive initial SP investment. Learning Talents on a character gives them 100 SP each, and leveling with the Trumpet is still extremely potent when unboosted. There's also a secret about Rainbow Diamonds to save a ton of SP: if you wear them, they temporarily increase your Specialty Levels by 1, letting any character act as if they have Level 10 abilities when they've only spent points to reach Level 8. This particular thing is not well known, even by people who have played SOFD/SE many times so I can't fault it for not being mentioned. Startup money can be handled by the skill Purity, it flat out gives you Fol when you put points into it on a character (totaling 100,000 at Level 10). Once you get set up to make Philosopher's Stones though, money is just irrelevant, as the guide does show. Lastly, it was a bit strange that Customize was only mentioned in passing, even random usage of it can produce weapons much more powerful than those you can buy in shops. Show those Trumpet enemies who's boss.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
Thanks for the info! I'll pin that for anyone in the future who wants to delve more into the game. I made that video with the limited knowledge I had at the time, what you see from the gameplay was the basic extent of my knowledge and I wanted to just talk and clear up some confusing things I had encountered in my initial research.
@djhowell5273
@djhowell5273 7 месяцев назад
What is IC?
@akitothegeek
@akitothegeek Год назад
Thank you so much, very helpful. Using this to beat First departure before the 2nd remake comes out
@RasputiaInYourMom
@RasputiaInYourMom 3 года назад
Just started playing this. Thanks for the vid
@Baiano29
@Baiano29 9 месяцев назад
Poor guy went crazy trying to explain everything 😢
@maurbon5234
@maurbon5234 Год назад
I love you bro this vid is very good was confused af about skills 😂 I’m tryna play all the star oceans to play the new one coming out
@edenzra6712
@edenzra6712 4 года назад
Needed this mayne thank you 🙏💯
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 4 года назад
No problem! It took me forever to weed out the info, I'm glad someone got use out of it.
@skatalite83
@skatalite83 3 года назад
This helped me a lot, thanks for the info.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
My pleasure!
@tx49er956
@tx49er956 5 месяцев назад
Thank for the great tips and help. 1/19/24
@acreativespace9356
@acreativespace9356 2 года назад
Rhythm Sense = keep composing until you learn a song then perform it until you obtain rhythm sense. Took Millie a few performances to get it but I had another character learn it on first performance
@wokalpajaro
@wokalpajaro 3 года назад
Thanks for this! Really informative. I just ish you’d have written a script or an outline or something. It was kind of confusing when you jump from one topic to another and then back to another topic.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
I'm glad you got some use! When I made the video I decided I was just going to talk and time got away from me. I understand it wasn't as concise as it could've been, but it was spur of the moment and I just wanted to get the hard to find info out there.
@DMXrated
@DMXrated Год назад
For Writing, do you have to select a skill to write about, or is that chosen randomly by the game?
@JeremyNoblitt
@JeremyNoblitt 2 года назад
I just got this on ps5. Thanks for this. I am finally at the part where skills can be used and this helped tremendously.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
My pleasure!
@ryri51
@ryri51 Год назад
Are the skills that give you more stats or skill points per level also retro active or are you screwed if you waited for a while to start putting into those skills? I got cyuss, Ilia, and Roddick to lvl 45 at Portsmith simply because I just enjoy grinding while listening to podcasts and havent messed with the skill unlocks yet except for maxing out determination. Am I now kinda screwed on the extra SP with enlightenment?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
Technically yes, if you don't get enlightenment maxxed out asap you miss out on that sp BUT once you do max it out, you will quickly have more sp than you could possibly use by level 100ish.
@patricksilveri3105
@patricksilveri3105 Год назад
Thanks dude
@friendlyfranki7415
@friendlyfranki7415 Год назад
Your guide helped me a lot. TY.
@mntchannel1212
@mntchannel1212 11 месяцев назад
This video really help me alot when I play first departure. You have any video like this for second evolution?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 11 месяцев назад
Glad to help! I may make one when it's the remaster comes out!
@KramerJones
@KramerJones 2 года назад
Thanks
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
Very welcome
@eag19
@eag19 Год назад
Preety good vídeo , playing for The First time on psppp.Sadly, i Lost ashalay, dint know you need him to unlock rodick specials.
@dandiane2796
@dandiane2796 2 года назад
Wow, this guide is excellent and I appreciate you so much. I know this video is old, but I have a question that I can't find on the internet and I feel like this is the most knowledgeable video on the web: How does talent blooming work and when does it happen in the game? Is it worth reloading the game about for the SP bonuses? I'm very new to Star Ocean, read a tip about this on the fan Wiki, and can't find a single other piece of information about this. Again, even if you don't have an answer, thank you so much for all the great info!
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
Thank you so much! That means a lot, really. By talent blooming do you mean when the talents start branching and creating specialties? If so, when it starts would depend on how early you got determination maxed. Assuming you did it asap, if I had to guess, I'd say around level 50 is when you'd be able to have all the specialties you need to do what was described in the video. Don't quote me on that though. The SP bonuses aren't really necessary unless you REALLY want to optimize your early game. If you maxed out determination really early on you should be able to max out every skill in the game by level 100, which can be grinded to in a few hours once you get to level 40 or so, around the time you get the Walloon Sword. The max level in the game is 255, so don't be worried about missing out on anything. :)
@joeywomer
@joeywomer Год назад
So, Does anyone know if there's a way to auto scroll through the text boxes in the cutscenes? I remember doing so on the Switch, but don't know if there's a way on the PS5.
@kunckles213
@kunckles213 3 года назад
All This would have been nice to know before I started playing this game and reached near end game because the game doesn't explain anything and hard punishes you in alot of way. Not going to lie this entry into SO I actually hate for many of reasons, but at least the other entries are better so eh. Good guide man, thumbs up. I wish I found this video a lot earlier.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
Thanks man. I agree, if it weren't for my love of the Star Ocean series I'd probably hate the game as well. It's overly complicated for no reason. But it allows you to go on a power trip with some effort and research, so that was fun at least.
@tylerhassett9120
@tylerhassett9120 3 года назад
The Second Story/Second Evolution is by far my favorite. First Departure is my second since it's visually and mechanically the same. The third one was ruined for me once it was revealed to all be a virtual reality. The story and cast were just lame. I havent finished any of the others. I've always given them a try but they always seem to have a very lackluster cast and sub-par stories.
@kunckles213
@kunckles213 3 года назад
The consensus is that everyone likes Second story and is ranked number one on everyone's SO list. Play integrity and faithlessness and compare it to SO3. SO3's story, characters, game play, levels of content, and replayablity are far superior of integrity and faithlessness. I will say integrity and faithlessness's combat is slightly better (or just updated SO3 game play). First Departure is the only SO I will never play again because it littlery is the worst entry, I'll replay all the other ones with no problems, just the not FD or FDR. Plus If I was going to introduce someone to the SO series it probably would be either 2, 3, or 4.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
@@kunckles213 Till the End of Time was the very first JRPG I ever played. Picked it up randomly and gained a lifelong best friend in high school (14 years ago LOL) from it, so I may be a bit biased saying it's the best. I barely remember Second Story, I played it on PsP a long while ago, so I can't speak on it. The remake of FD makes me hopeful for SS though! It's hard to say what I'd suggest, but I deeply love the series and even found a way to enjoy Integrity and Thoughtlessnes... I mean Faithlessness. Haha but I agree, as it stands, SO1 would be my last pick. My list goes: SO3, SO4, SO2, SO5, SO1.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
@@tylerhassett9120 I've heard people say they hated the plot twist in SO3, but I absolutely LOVE it. You can't say it's not at least shocking. But I agree, the stories for 4 and 5 are not that good. I'm just a fanboy so I've played and enjoyed them all.
@xXguzman96Xx
@xXguzman96Xx 2 года назад
Why did you use Ashley for item replication? Did he have a talent that helped or can we use anyone?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
Sorry for the late reply. You need certain talents to make the specialties work, so for replication you'd need originality and composition.
@allanmelo1244
@allanmelo1244 Год назад
The video is so confusing, dear lord Odin! Help me
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
What are you confused about?
@hundun5604
@hundun5604 5 месяцев назад
@jishna5090 17:25 Why do we need music lvl4 and not lvl3, or 5?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 5 месяцев назад
Each of the music levels summon different monsters when you play The Devil’s Aria on the world map. The 4th level one is the easiest one that also gives great exp.
@hundun5604
@hundun5604 5 месяцев назад
@@jishna5090 Aha, I didn't know that. Thanks!
@KyleHBlowers
@KyleHBlowers 9 месяцев назад
Your video has a lot of great info in it, & as far as I can tell is the only guide of its kind on yt… And with that in mind… I think you REALLY should consider editing it heavily. I say the following constructively bc it was really difficult to sit through: First and foremost: re-record your audio when you don’t have a cold or sinus infection. You are sniffling, coughing, clearing your sinuses all on mic and it’s awful to listen, borderline gross. A re-record would help too bc you are stumbling over your words constantly. It’s extremely difficult to follow what you’re giving guidance about and it kind of undermines your intent to guide/educate Also, when you suggest side quests etc in detail for certain skills, the video just sits at a menu while you’re talking and stumbling and clearing your throat. You should fill those gaps w b-roll of you doing the quest and clear up your audio. I’m sorry this sounds hard, but I think your video could be great and no one else has made something like this.
@alinktothefuture193
@alinktothefuture193 3 месяца назад
can anybody please help me understand, am i missing tutorials in this game? i really like the mechanics of this game but i feel like nothing explains it to you. i was stuck in that pirate cave because i did not know equipping items had an affect on the over world (talking about using the flint on the gas) or when using scouting to avoid battles that it won’t work if you don’t have animal training??? like where in game is this information? i think they are cool mechanics but not many games have mechanics like this so how am i suppose to know???
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 месяца назад
The information is not in the game at all. That’s old video games for you. This game was originally for the Super Nintendo.
@Yusei255
@Yusei255 Год назад
What about in terms of missable items, any specific character only talents you need
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
I go over the character specific talents at 10:43. As far as missable items, I’m not sure. I imagine there’s a ton considering it’s an old jrpg and there are missable characters.
@Yusei255
@Yusei255 Год назад
@@jishna5090 could I just go the characters you have shown in the video. Also may ask why you went welch over the 2nd secret chatacyer.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
@@Yusei255 Oh yeah, you can just copy what I did. Just make some saves and mess around in the creation. It'll come to you and you'll see what characters will learn what. Since the specialties take little time to perform you can get a lot of data super quick. And I just really like Welch, I'm not even sure who the best characters are in the game.
@Yusei255
@Yusei255 Год назад
@@jishna5090 yeah I also Like welch, mainly for the voice since it's the same VA that voices Neptune from the hyperdimension neptunia game's And since welch is on basically every SO game.
@SilverForte
@SilverForte 2 года назад
What if I've already maxed music with my characters?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
Unfortunately if you've maxed music out with everyone I believe you're stuck with the hardest boss in the game when playing the Devil's Aria :/ unless you have more characters to obtain that can learn music.
@mcoupe69
@mcoupe69 Год назад
I am so fkn lost -___0
@daviddamasceno6063
@daviddamasceno6063 2 года назад
You never explained why you kept Millie with Performance 4 and Music Knowledge 4 instead of maxing them out.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
When you play Devil's Aria at those levels it summons the monster you will want to fight to super train. There's a different monster for every level.
@daviddamasceno6063
@daviddamasceno6063 Год назад
@@jishna5090 Oh, I see, thank you!
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
@@daviddamasceno6063 You're welcome!
@lofigundam
@lofigundam Год назад
But how do I unlock skills I have sp but nothing Is showing on skills
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
You unlock skills at shops. You’ll see 3 people standing behind the counter next to each other, you just buy them there.
@garuelx8627
@garuelx8627 Год назад
Isn't replication an evil specialty much like pickpocketing, which will reduce character affinity and make it harder to acquire some nice things via PAs and good endings for everyone?
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 Год назад
The only two that reduce affinity are Contraband and Pickpocket. Luckily they made it logical in the sense that if your characters see you do bad or illegal things, they start to dislike you.
@GoatHeadTed
@GoatHeadTed 7 месяцев назад
This game really isn't casual is it? I just got millie back and I'm getting destroyed in the over world and my party is 26-30
@Whoareyoupeople900
@Whoareyoupeople900 2 года назад
I'm slowly giving up on this game. I can't fight the monsters the 2nd time you go to the purgatorium. my battle group are all in level 60's. I tried to learn about crafting better armor and weapons but these forums and websites either don't have enough information or I can't find any results at all!
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
Super train my friend! You can easily get to level 100+ by using the music talent. It's detailed in the video, don't give up!
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
10:35
@saiktv7981
@saiktv7981 2 года назад
I appreciate your effort and it's over all a nice video. But please man, write yourself a script if you doing a guide video.
@djhowell5273
@djhowell5273 7 месяцев назад
Damn all this for a SNES game lol
@JimEnjoy
@JimEnjoy 3 года назад
too much talking , just to the point man
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
Too much talking, go somewhere else for your content, man.
@JimEnjoy
@JimEnjoy 3 года назад
@@jishna5090 ok 👌
@styx87
@styx87 3 года назад
@@JimEnjoy bye bich
@xreev0x
@xreev0x 2 года назад
Star Ocean games are too complex for their own good. 😩
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 2 года назад
TRUTH
@AceHunter71
@AceHunter71 Год назад
This video is so inconcise and I am so lost...
@finito6818
@finito6818 3 года назад
When the guy explaining can't make a sentence without stopping in the middle, forgetting his words, getting lost in the menu, adjusting his throat, saying uuhhh. Way to make your video twice longer than it should. So unorganized and 30mins explaining video without timestamps, if I want to re-listen to a point I have to scroll through this whole mess of a video.
@jishna5090
@jishna5090 3 года назад
I was going to type out a long explanation about how it was spur of the moment and uncut, but I think whiney bitches like yourself are better handled with one specific sentence, that sentence being, "I don't give a fuck what you think, and neither does anyone else."
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