Star Trek: Borg Cube | Extended Breakdown 

Love what you do! Maybe a Sci-Tech vid on the Borg nanoprobes or transwarp hub?

There is one method to resist your nanoprobes, fiend! Being Poor!

WAIT the borg essentially had stargates????

Which track of battlezone II did you use? Have not been able to find it yet on youtube.

Why don't you check into the fact that the Hansen's were abducted by the border making 7 of 9 but also Admiral hansen was Killed by the Borg and the battle of Wolf 359 on the Melbourne. Were they related? Was Admiral Hanson 7 of 9's Grandfather

"Lithobrake"

ah yes, the famed "eat shit" maneouver

And then Species 8472 became a thing

And the military pressure to advance only increases the value of their inevitable victory. The federation lost 39 ships to a single cube at Wolf 359, and still lost at least 30 ships in the battle of sector 001 despite having made incredible advancements in both weapon systems and employing actual warships dedicated to fighting the borg. All they need to do is send TWO cubes.

When you really stop and think about it, the Borg are just a vinculum building more of itself out of available materials using nanomachines. I think they count as a superorganism.

Infinite adaptability. The first cube failed but the second would be tailored to fight that target. The federation actually defeated this tactic by adapting and creating true warships with variable frequency weapons instead of the half arsed "starships" they had at wolf 359. I think this is why by voyager you see borg ships using conventional yet extremely powerful shields. The federation showed the borg their subspace defences were useless when species used these variable frequency weapons.

@@thundercactus That only a fraction of the Federation fleet through. The federation were deploying a thousand strong fleets during the Dominion war.

to be fair, if the color was "Core of Sun" i'm sure this still applies

to be fair, if the color was "Core of Sun" i'm sure this still applies

Get rid of that last sentence and the comment is perfect.

Using Transformer technology as a virus to expose onto individual cubes in order to change a Borg cube into a Rubix will likely ruin the cube's defensive integrity. Always use this tactic to destroy Borg cubes!

Just peel the color stickers and stick them back one color to each side. Just don't let the kid who owns the cube see you.

they are the ultimate user.

Yeah but that's pre nerf

"If the Continuum has told you once, they have told you a thousand times: DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG!!!"

@@priest2001 Is it really surprising though? How do you write an antagonist as powerful as the Borg, that your protagonists can still credibly win against? The writers had no alternative but to nerf them, or introduce gimmicks like Species 8472. Doesn't mean I don't miss the implacable menace that was TNG's version of the Borg.

Until they come up against ethnically diverse female space Jesus. Mikey Burnhan wil defeat the Borg and forever end them in the first act of an episode. And then the Discovery crew will have a good cry about it for the next two acts.

What is the doomsday machine?

I see you are knowledgable Sir ;) But I always considered Ramiel to be the least fear-inducing one since it does not look organic. I mean Lilith, that one is creepy as hell! And I do liek the Khaak.

some more examples of disturbing starships from sci fi universes would have to be the reapers and collectors from the mass effect series.

Add the pyramid ships from Destiny, always give me a bit of a chill.

@@SoullessOO1 I was going to mention those

Even the modern series can’t match First Contact for weapons effects, or weapons sound effects.

They don’t do practical model work anymore…it’s a lost art

I'm not going to lie "First Contact" is my favorite star trek movie. Although that might be because I saw it in theatre when I was like 12

And that quantum torpedo volley from the Enterprise-E

Yeah, theres various bits i like over the whole series, but that battle was the single best looking, balls out fight i think has been put to film. And the E swooping in....👏👏👏👏👏👏

That's true, I hadn't realized that at the time

I agree. Having a Queen makes them too understandable and “natural.” We know how animals work which have queens, we know and can appreciate that system. It’s familiar, maybe even comfortable. They have a moral to serve. But the borg before the queen were super scary as you said. They were completely pitiless and ruthless, truly monsters.

Think someone at Paramount insisted on a Queen for First Contact. Studios, they have the money. They have the power.

@@evalramman7502 yeah, that was more or less it. They felt that while having the Borg be this leaderless collective worked for TV, for a movie, they would need some kind of main villain to confront

Perhaps they had to use the borg queen to understand and abatp to federation unique and willpower

Picard writers seem to be doing the same...But that might be down to them hating the franchise more than voyager's less than stellar writing talent.

@@ShiftyMcGoggles I got the impression that the Picard writers were trying to frame the Borg more as an advanced, dead civilization rather than an existential threat. And if you ignore Voyager that works well: a single Borg ship that is derelict and an object of intense scrutiny and interest is a really neat take after the events of Descent, especially with Hugh's involvement. I feel like there's some neat storytelling to do within that framework, but I'm not sure that's the direction the writers are going in the upcoming season(s).

@@the_snobot To be honest, that summarises a lot of the plot elements of Picard. Interesting ideas, but without the writing chops to properly work it into trek series, or more than a cursory glance at the source material. I have a feeling they didn't get the script checked over by other people either, since the issues with it are more egregious that Voyager's torpedo count.

@@ShiftyMcGoggles Neat ideas with no justification for their existence seem to be a running theme in multiple overglorified fanfic stories these days. "Who cares if it doesn't make sense with the established worldbuilding/characters/history, I want more content!"

@@ShiftyMcGoggles To be fair, their writng talent is as low as their hatred for the franchise is high

That's pretty much what the models for the Borg cubes were made out of.

Indeed, that scream is unforgettable. There are not many other ships in science fiction i can think of that instil such fear.

Even later in B5 the Shadow vessels never lose that mystique.

even when they used telepaths to scare away shadows those ships were still taken seriously.... the awesome thing about the shadows is no words had to be spoken, they appear and attack then leave, the borg actually tell their prey they're coming lolz but the borg are still a fate nobody wants

Whoever designed the art for the Shadow vessels, I'd love to know what Eldritch nightmares inspired them!

@@darthXreven and sometimes the intended Borg victim resists, then after beating the Borg back they come in search of retribution.

I'm sure rail guns would scrap them so easily

@@mryellow6918 the borg would struggle with Halo Plasma or MAC Cannons.

@@mryellow6918 How the drones reacted to kinetic weapons in First Contact, and the anti-borg sniper rifle that Ezri played around with in one episode of DS9 agree with you.

In the Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force video game there's a weapon called an I-MOD, short for Infinity Modulator, which was specifically designed to get around Borg adaptation. To me the way that game presented the Borg made sense.

The way I've understood the whole amputated limb thing, especially if you're referring to that scene in First Contact, is this, they only amputated damaged limbs. Like if the person who was being assimilated already wore a prosthetic or had it damaged fighting the Borg drones to begin with. Not every assimilated person had limbs hacked off just for the hell of it. But overall, I agree, that story was one of those Simpsons episodes where nothing that happened had any long term consequences and was never brought up again.

Considering the tech they have, in reality if that tech was ours irl people would be biologically immortal, nanobots would render aging obsolete, people would heal like wolverine and all the transportation and matter creation tech would fix any possible disfigurment in seconds. Missing an arm? let me grow that excact one from your dna back on to your body in 0.5 secs from 1000km away, as site to site and very percise transportor tech would allow it, shields/forcefields etc would take the place of any bandage. So it makes sense the crew made light of borg assimilation. Plus writers never think about realism with their tech. In reality voyager on its own isnt handicapped they could have settled a planet and made any ship/station in starfleet databanks in a matter of weeks

@@RichO1701e I'm guessing it was more replacing limbs lost during resistance. battle wounds

The story in Unimatrix-zero was cool from an action point of view, but the realism of that plot was so horribly unbalanced that it's considered by many to almost be non-canon. The mission was a purposeful body-mutilation suicide pact at best, or death for everyone at worst... all with no debate (even Scorpion had some discussion on it). Visually it was cool but holy god the writers went nuts

@@TheCoolCucumber Pretty much every episode was writted by a different writing team and they were instructed that outside of two parters they had to leave everything pretty much the way they found it for the next episode as they were all being writted in parallel. This resulted in pretty much every episode hitting a reset button at the end of the episode. This writing style was fine for TNG where every episode was by and large a standalone adventure. But Voyager needed to be more than just TNG in the delta quadrant. I like Voyager but there were a lot of episodes that would have been improved if there were lasting consequences. Be it unrepairable or lasting damage that leaves voyager in a semi-crippled state for at least a few episodes, key crew members getting killed and so on. They were alone in the Delta quadrant with no logistical support after all. Even if that was somewhat within the Interpid class design.

“Resistance is futile.”

Because they were amazon warehouse operators in the 21st century.

They might be pure evil but they're not negligent

That is true, in our history of warfare it was always preferable to have your enemy surrender instead of doing battle. By giving your enemy a chance to surrender you greatly decrease the expenses incurred with battle.

The Pakled ? But then again, the Borg may deem them unworthy of Assimilating… Hmm, perhaps it's a way to get the target to _display it's prowess,_ so the Borg can gauge how useful they'll be.

I would volutarily gave up to the Borg...

@@casbot71 The two main things borg look for is advanced tech and biological distinctiveness. Even if a species didn’t put up a fight or even hid their tech, if they had something that could benefit the borg in any way they would probably go for it.

They essentially erase your personality and refit the remains. The chance of getting away is almost zero, your only weapon and advantage is being unpredictable by being an Individual. You may as well go down fighting, but better than that, fleeing under distraction. They seem rather easily distracted, because everything is getting analysed. Everyone wants to fight without thinking twice, or flee in dumb horror. The escapists always survive by distraction.

Nah the silence from doctor who imo are more scary.

As a child I found them disturbing

@@EddyA1337 I just thought they were cool

I found species 8472 was more scary

Can´t fully remember if they specifically explained it but I think they stated that it was Spatial Trajector Technology and the only species known to use this sort of transportation are the Sikarians, which Voyager met earlier.

it was also stated in that episode that the way it worked had something to do with a unique quality on the planet.. the way minerals or something were on it i forget the details exactly, but essentially the tech only worked on the planets surface. voyager tried doing it from orbit and it didnt work.

@@alwaysmymazda I suppose that if anyone could take that technology and build some artificial planet size trajector amplifiers around space to make it more convenient... it's the Borg.

@@kevinwidmayer2409 Probably mined a bunch of the minerals and built ships out of them.

It was a very "stargate" moment! "Hey I remember that piece of technology from like 3 seasons ago!"

If it was The Best of Both Worlds part 1, the background music for it's appearance was ominous and grandiose.

@@darwinxavier3516 Q Who

There is precious little visual material for the Luna class, which would make for a limited video component. Not impossible, but much more of a challenge to make a compelling video on.

@@timberwolf1575 sure thats true but still spacedock has done videos on ships with little info but yeah I guess I shouldnt get my hopes up

The cube itself makes sense. The idea of no central core and no queen makes sense. What doesn't make sense is them all of a sudden having a central core and a queen so it can be easier for humans to win.

@@cooldude2251 look at how they changed the Borg in there first appearance Q said they were only interested in there technology then all the sudden in best of both worlds they assimilate life forms and you can hack them easily

Thankyou! - hoojiwana from Spacedock

Same.

What is that?????? I haven't played a good star trek strategy game since armada and armada 2.

@@beaney56 THE Star Trek Mod for Stellaris.

And it’s AMAZING

@@starmada105 Stellaris looks pretty expensive with all the DLCS. How much do you need to own to play the Trek mod?

Halo's Flood are up there for me

@@VegetaLF7 clearly the flood is way more scarry. you can easy outrun a borg drone at how slow they walk but good luck outruning a combat form of the flood

@@Obsidian_Gargantuan_Leviathan the flood destroy who you are when absorbed the borg use everything and on some level your aware as well

@@insigificantinsect4880 the flood destroy more or less just the body. the mind and all the info from it are absorbed by the grave mind

Chaos and the Tyranids from Warhammer 40k The Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars The Shadows from Babylon 5 Xenomorph from Aliens Reapers from Mass Effect Shivaner from Freespace Ohh there are many on the same level as the Borg.

After reading this, I'm not sure if I can take the Borg as a seriously ever again.

@@metalgeardull8279 honestly, a race of Minecraft builders is fucking terrifying.

@@sauron7839 that is true.

@@sauron7839 *WE ARE THE BUILDERS.* *DEFENSE IS POINTLESS.* *YOU WILL BE ACCUMULATED.*

That would actually be a great addition to the galaxy mod...

AI Voice: "No Information Available."

Might be hard to come across sufficient information on the vessel to create an episode, especially since the Colony Wars franchise has been dead for awhile now.

@@guamson8946 I'd like to see a reboot of that game. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Colony Wars is something I sorely wish would come back. Red Sun was awful but the first 2 games were great.

damaged for a big part not destroyed as a hole

and the borg probably have most of the damage repaired by now

From what I remember they destroyed a major hub but not the network.

But that wasn't a Cube. This is Spacedock, the focus is on the ships.

We ignore that show.

@@morgan97475 who is "we"?

@@WardancerHB Those who were severely disappointed by the show. Manny Coto should've helmed the show from the beginning.

@@morgan97475 it’s a lot better than what we have now

Yeah calling her the Borg Queen in and of itself doesn't match the mystique of the Borg. I always thought she should've been called One of All. But I understood what she was, the singular embodiment of the Collective. If you're talking to a drone, you're just talking to a neuron, but if it's the Queen you're talking to the whole, the Mother Brain.

I'd have to vote replicators, on that one. The borg have a reliance on biological material the replicators don't have. They're pure tech, and can assimilate and duplicate themselves from nearly any material. Hell, they turned an entire planet into replicators. The humanoid replicators can even phase themselves through solid materials. The borg are scary as hell, but even they would be overmatched by the replicators.

im fairly certain the replicators would win, mostly due to them being able to do molecular manipulations with technology far more advanced then the borg. Im sure even the wraith would give them a good run for their money.

Probably borg after a bit. Replicators developed nanotechnology way late, and there's a good chance Borg nanites could infiltrate, infect, and subourn Replicator nanites. It'd be a nano war, because I think the Reps would win in a physical battle. But they'd lose when their own swarm turned on them.

The Asurans would win, hands down. SG1 base replicators are a bit more interesting. I guess it just gets into can the nanoprobes of a borg infect the replicator blocks? That basically answers the question. If yes, the Borg will win. If no, the Replicators will eat the borg.

Whoever wins will have both tech sets anyway. It's kinda like arguing who would win between Zerg, Flood, or Tyranids. It's basically the same outcome no matter what happens. They basically just fuse, and we arbitrarily call the new race the name of the old race we think won.

This video was just about the cube not the borg in general. Archer only came into contact with a interplanetary shuttle a few drones had over charged.

But there's a couple of things about that encounter, and their presence in 2063 during First Contact. The only people who knew about them native to 2063 were Cochrane and Lily Sloane, one of whom had a reputation of saying things while drunk, which he would later recant. So, whatever they said was always viewed with some suspicion. In 2152, Starfleet (specifically Archer) only speculatively attach those drones to Cochrane's drunken ramblings. The Hansens (not part of Starfleet) were only exploring a rumor, so what Starfleet knew prior to the 2350s was a closely guarded secret. So they are the first to encounter the Borg, and the Enterprise-D is the first official recorded encounter.

The Borg Queen was meant to always have existed hence Picard remembering her in turn she recalled Annaka Hanson not being afraid

@@aquamonkee Well, she would remember what the collective does. But aww! I liked the idea that the Borg DID something, changed somehow, in reaction to the Hugh incident. But that's O.K. I'm not a writer and shouldn't be telling writers how to do their job.

I tend to spend 10 minutes there on remeberance day.