Imagine if you yoda fought a sith Lord that were his species, all you would see would be a green light, red light, and two green things bouncing around
"Yoda plays not with me anymore, Yoda thinks me not worthy" The fact that he says anymore suggests there may have been a time when Yoda actually did experiment with the dark side, which is actually a really interesting thing to think about
Indeed... hoenstly maybe thats why hes taht powerful, he could have tap into both sides of the force to get a better understanding of it but chosse to stick with the Light side.
I know, right ? I grew to be a little tired of this good/bad roleplay : I think that Heroes an Villains alike, should be played in a grey way. I agree with the idea that everybody is born innocent/naive depending of your POV, but as life goes on, everybody usually ends up dealing with situations who put them out of their confort zone and face personal issues. So, yes, the idea of Yoda having tasted the Dark Side would be pretty cool to hear about as it shows that when he said that the Dark Side was more appealling, more easy, it would imply he speaks of personnal experience.
"And yet you spend your days in the decadence of war, and with that I grow inside you." By far the best line in this scene, highlighting how the Clone War has not only caused Yoda to lose his way and cloud his vision of the future, but also corrupt the Jedi Order from it's peaceful ways and turn the democracy of the Galatic Republic into a militaristic state one step away from the Empire. The dark side won the day the war started.
“Victory? Victory, you say? Master Kenobi, not victory. The shroud of the Dark Side has fallen. Begun, the Clone Wars have.” - Yoda, Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones.
It's not really surprising to think Yoda would have used the dark side at SOME point in his very long life span, but obviously he never gave in to it. And in my opinion this is one of the most badass moments in the show
This is the dark side as concentrate of all Yoda‘s fear and dangerous emotion. He recognize that he have those emotions but he also make a decision: I control you.
I wonder how often he practises hand to hand combat? It’s not like he even really goes into combat all that often, even less so for him to engage in fisticuffs!
"Yoda thinks me not worthy." "Yoda plays not with me anymore." So does that mean Yoda's used the dark side before? That's kind of a terrifying thought.
Everyone starts out with both dark and light. Yoda would have been no differerent. See Grogu as an example where he still taps into anger. Yoda would never have been full evil - he just hadn't disciplined himself to completely remove anger, aggression, hate etc
Although there's not much indication for this, I like the idea that Yoda, before being discovered by the jedi order, used to be a sort of impish trickster, playing malevolent, yet playful tricks on unfortunate passersby. And yet, the reason for doing so was more out of desperation, being a creature that is small, and bodily feeble, would use his aptitude to the force to ward off any would be enemies who would wish him harm. Just my personal head-cannon.
You know, it's the only canon story about Yoda traveling and teaching, and it's explain soo many stuff in a good way, but still keeps most of the secrets about Yoda's past in shadow. Giving us only some hits of how Yoda handle the force in past. I love this story arc.
This seems to be linked to Carl Jung's idea of the shadow. All of the parts of you that you ignore, and eventually bury in your subconscious. But through denial, or ignoring those parts of you, they influence you throughout your life without you being aware of them. This whole seems like shadow work, Yoda finally dealing with the darker sides of himself (though not all parts of the shadow need be dark). Shadow work leads to a better understanding of yourself, and leads to a more complete and powerful person.
EXACTLY!!! We can not live in the dark alone or the light alone, they each burn you with different flames, we must accept the shadow self to be authentic ...finding the balance and acceptance of self!! MY Favorite aspect in psychology!
Anyone who wants to get deeper into the shadow work read the Shadownomicon by D.H. Thorne, mainly for advanced practitioners but if you think you can handle it and you are a beginner or intermediate then go ahead
It kills him, untill he realized he must realize his dark side exists. Then the fight can stop and he can control it. He would have not won if he kept being close minded. He got his ass.beat.
Show this scene to any who thinks balance in Star Wars means embracing the Dark Side. The Dark Side will always exist, but the point of Star Wars has always been to overcome and defeat it, internally and externally Dark Side. True balance is faintly achieved when you defeat it.
Thank you wise Obi-wan! I have been sick and tired of trying to explain that balance concept to every person trying to Shit on the jedi. The point of the training of the jedi is to confront your inner dark self, and overcome it. Once you can do that, you can better fight the darkness externally. Anakin confronted his inner demons and failed( kept that failure a secret) and all fan boys and girls the blame is Jedi over stupid stuff. Anakin himself because he was never honest with himself plain and simple
The whole point of balance is to accept the Dark Side as a part of you as well as the Light. The issue with the Jedi is that they thought the dark side is a curse that should never be confronted. Luke proved this wrong in Return of the Jedi when he was able to bounce back. Same with Vader. Yoda admits that while he does recognize his dark side, he refuses to accept it. In the case of Anakin, he failed to confront his demons because he was taught to disregard them, which in turn lead to him being consumed by the demons.
@@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646 Acceptance but not feeding those emotions is defeating it. All Jedi is suppose to confront their inner darkness, inner anger, inner arrogance. And it is not just one time, Qui Gon said a Jedi must be ever vigilant. Anakin never could accept his darkness even if he wanted to because he was married and was lying to himself and others about it. He had had been honest about his marriage, I guarantee you things would have turned out so much better for him.
No, Sith are Force-wielders trained to control their connection to the Force through rage and hate, while this is the physical manifestation of the Dark Side in Yoda.
its interesting that dark yoda says that yoda "doesnt play with (it) anymore" which implies there was a point, at some time in his life, that he was turned to the dark side.
I don't think he was implying that Yoda was TURNED to the dark side. Merely that young and powerful Yoda just indulged in his power and maybe he was arrogant, angry, emotional, and other "not so Jedi" things. That's why Yoda is so wise now. Because he has seen the dark and decided not to go down that path... Like the meth addict who finally sobers up but has scars and stories for others to learn from.
I wouldn't say _turned_ per say. But he may have been _tempted_ by the Dark Side, having, as they call it "flirted" with it before realising the danger and rejecting it.
I imagine Yoda was once much like Anakin, hence why he feared Anakin so much. Yoda knew his own power was dangerous when he was young, powerful, arrogant & flirted with the Dark Side; the potential for the Chosen One to end up that way was something which could & did lead to ruin.
lordlossize GG dark Yoda is the demon inside him telling him to become evil. But when he said that you do not play with me anymore, he is implying that Yoda is rejecting him and ignoring him.
@@laserquacker7027 Only one explanation to this - Snoop Dog. Dark Yoda is an apprentice of Snoop Dog. Snoop Dog is a Sith Lord CONFIRMED. Except, instead of force lightning, Snoop Dog uses force smoke.
"Yoda plays not with me anymore. Yoda thinks me not worthy." Yoda is so powerful and wise, I think this really tackles the fact he had a dark side he struggled with and actions he experienced making him into such a profound Jedi. There's more to write but this scene is insanely important to Yoda's character, and to those struggling with mental health as well.
Just rewatched this episode on a binge, and it’s crazy to see light Yoda being durable in the middle of unarmed combat. That Jedi Master is a beast in the midst of combat. Tom Kane really rocked it as dark/light Yoda in this scene, alone.
"My dark side you are, Refect you i do" i will now and forever use this line to say no to my friends if i decide not to join them in going out to drink while i still have alot of work load for my classes
Most of you are not reading this episode correctly. This was just showing the duality of force that resided in us all. That we can vanquish it if we have the patience
Stop. Just stop. There was no need to think of the sequel trilogy. It’s like even when you have something you like and can enjoy, you’ll always think of something you don’t like and look for a reason to be negative. It’s just a fictional franchise. You don’t have to take it so seriously and personally.
I love this episode so much because it’s the first time we see that yoda isn’t a perfect person and that he has flaws and it is an interesting character study of yoda.
I love this scene because it shows us that yoda has past experiences dealing with his dark side. There's more to yoda than what we've been told, he isn't perfect, and he too needs to confront his demons and search for answers. It's really cool
Dark Yoda: "Yoda plays not with me anymore, he think me no worthy". Yoda: " Yo bro, that was 1 time like 300 years ago and I was drunk. I dont go that way, stop buggin me about it"
For years I never understood the hype or love for Star Wars. Especially for Yoda. I was always creeped out by him especially and made fun of him to my brother. During 2020/ earlier last year, my brother got me to try watching Star Wars. It was the newer movies. I absolutely loved them. To his and my surprise, I wanted to watch all the movies. So he went over the entire order with me. Weekends were our bonding time with Star Wars. When it came time for me to watch this series, I fell in love. But it was this episode, more particularly this scene, that will remain with me forever. I was going through a really tough time and this was the scene that was like a light in the darkness for me. Given me hope and clarity. I always remember this. Lool, it’s so ironic that the franchise, especially the character I couldn’t stand and made fun of, is the one that ended up being helping me through a pivotal moment in my life. If you’ve never watched Star Wars and contemplate watching it, I say give it a chance. I will always be thankful to my brother. I understand the love and the hype now. I understand how wrong and foolish I was. Star Wars is the shit💅🏾🙌🏾
I like that this just took the form of a supernatural street fight, no fancy laser swords and whatnot, just an old green dude throwing down with his inner darkness and them beating the crap out of eachother. lol.
Vader had hold over Anakin the he decided to marry Padme and keep a secret from everyone. He was so afraid of getting caught that this rule every footstep he took during the clone Wars
the darkside isnt stronger than the light side but it just gets you more power quicker yoda is around 1000 years old and is on the same level as darth sidious as a lightside user if yoda was darkside he would crush everyone
So it kind of is stronger - unless you have as much time as Yoda to train in the lightside! Not to mention that the darkside selects its recruits much more careful (well: At least the Banite Rule of Two Sith do!), they also will use harsh training that weeds out weak apprentices (unlike the Jedi, who only weed out at the end and send what they consider failures to the Service Corps!)
This right here is one of the best scenes in the entire franchise. This shows exactly the mistake that led the Jedi to destruction, that created and empowered the Sith. The Jedi of this era and for the past many generations since the great schism, have ignored that the dark side is a part of every being. Just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it isn't there and the more you ignore it, the stronger it grows in the shadows. If you don't learn to control it, it will control you. Every Jedi should be made to take a trial similar to this where they must confront their inner dark side, just as Yoda does here and Luke does on Dagobah, before they can be named a Jedi Master. For mastering your own dark side is the ultimate form of mastery over one's self. If a Jedi wishes to bring balance to the galaxy, they must first find balance within themselves. Imagine if the Jedi had allowed Anakin to confront his dark side. Anakin would not have let it control him, his fear wouldn't have controlled him, and Sidious wouldn't have been able to manipulate him so easily.
Notice how he said yoda not play with me anymore meaning yoda at some point in his time as a jedi practiced with the darkside and doukoo also believed at some point yoda used and trained with it
It means, that when Yoda was young, ha was like all young people - drunk, had fun and had a full blast. But when he became older, he learnt to control his evil side.
What did dark yoda mean by yoda doesn't play with me anymore and if dark yoda is the darkside of yoda does that mean that yoda used to use the darkside
No dark yoda is all the anger and hatred that yoda left behind. What dark yoda meant by yoda not wanting to play with him was yoda was ignoring and fighting against all the hatred and anger inside
I like to think this scene symbolizes yoda's acceptance of the situation of the jedi order, the jedi have become to consumed by the dark side yet they are too arrogant to accept that truth and therefore give it power. Yoda comes to recognize this and embraces it but strips it of its power, and through this is granted clarity to see the jedi will lose the war and the foresight to know to prepare for the jedi's downfall
I know what Yoda just did. He destroyed the most powerful of all of his inner demons: Hatred. Of course, now that I think about it, that's a quest that I'm on as well, destroy my inner demons. My inner demons are powerful, but my hatred is the most powerful of them all, alongside of my anger But, I swear that I will not rest until I destroy them all. And when I do, I shall cast them out of my soul and mind all together. Plus, with my inner demons gone, I will be free.
+Garath Webb Sorry but you are wrong. He didn't destroy it. The truth is, you can never destroy your hatred, anger or any of your inner demons. Trust me, I know all too well. What he did was accept it. He accepted that it was part of him, instead of ignoring it and pretending it wasn't there like he used too. You cannot cast them out. You must accept that they are apart of you, but that they only have as much control over you as you give them, because the more you fight against them, the stronger they will be, especially hatred and anger. It is through peace that peace is found, and acceptance that take away the power the demons have over you. I wish you luck in your journey friend, it is not an easy one to take, but one I know very well myself. Stay strong.
+RESPECT930 Dude, demons can be destroyed. It is difficult, but it's possible to kill them. However, like all other demons in the universe, even your inner demons are afraid of God, because they know that he's much more powerful than them
+Garath Webb Fear and anger are essential to our everyday lives. You can never rid yourself of them fully. What you must do is prevent yourself from bending your fear towards anger. That is when hatred is born, and with it, suffering.
I am an Aquarius. My inner demons resemble different parts of my personality, and thus they look exactly like me, except they act differently. But, they're slaves of a horrible dragon that I've been fighting for almost 20 years. That dragon, is my dark side, who's always trying to consume me. So far, all I've only been able to subdue the beast and trap him in a dark cave, located deep within the back of my mind. However, if I am to truly be free, I need to kill him. The problem is that as I get older, he grows stronger and becomes more difficult to restrain him
Now wouldn't be interesting to see Sidious have to do a similar trial with his light side. Like when he was being trained by Plagueis, he had to come face to face with a physical embodiment of his light side.
There is speculation, even from the Emperor himself, I think, that had Yoda fallen to the Dark Side he might have become the most powerful being in the galaxy, even more powerful than the Emperor.
Apparently if dark yoda ever got out, he would be powerful enough to destroy the galaxy only Darth Vader (if he had lived his full life with all four of his limbs) could beat him
I like how yoda goes through a spiritual transcendence from the wills of the force and gains the power of life after death, Obi Wan deals with betrayal, grief and shame, and nopes himself out before being recognized as a stepfather and Anakin is like "ya' know what? Fuck this guy."
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