STARCRAFT 1 vs STARCRAFT 2 - Dark (Zerg) vs TY (Terran) 

"3 spider mines costs 75 minerals AND you get this cool bike!" Yep, that basically sums up BW

When i opened the video i never expected Dark to be in a tournament like this. This man is such a popular final boss that the organizers made a collab and decided to add him in. At this rate, if Starcraft 3 ever comes out, i expect him to be in the campaign in one way or another.

This mod is so much fun to watch. Thanks for casting it!

Ah yes, it’s so good to hear the South Korean national anthem again…. I mean…. The OG Terran Theme!

Lore wise… the cloaking tech was retrofitted from the decommissioned Wraiths to the Banshees.

Brenda: "I waited 14 years for revenge, 14 years...!"

I miss the Terran Goliath

Broodwar was the first game I played online. When I was in Elementary school almost every boy in my class had it. I remember my first tournament with friends. I couldn't believe that they were worse than easy bots. I rushed the player in the top opposite corner and took the top half of the map. I had battlecruisers and flew down to find the two southern players building mass cannons. Trying to fit as many cannons on each pylon as possible. The highest tech they had was Dragoons. I remember blasting the single pylons with Yamato and destroying everything without losing a BC. It was a 1v1v1v1 tournament thing between 12 of us, played on lan at my friends house. His house had 5 computers all in different rooms all connected by Ethernet, which blew my mind at the time. Never seen someone with a network at home before going to his house.

Ps dark. Hydras are tier one tech. Use them.

I love that Hellbats are viable (if a bit weak) in at least one matchup. Nice match, thank you Winter.

I think Broodwar Queen’s ensnare ability is probably more notable here than in Broodwar itself, thanks to army clumping. Quite comparable to Fungal Growth. Trades damage for a small attack speed debuff, not to mention a faster flying caster.

If you thought the SC2 Ultralisk was bad, wait until you see the SC1 Ultralisk!

Nah, Sir. Playing this replay on mute is a crime I love your commentary in this game. It is actually so insightful, SC educational, and contextual. It does not only tell me what is happening, but it also tells why things are happening.

The mod team removed siege upgrade from BW tanks for obvious reasons, but apparently so many people complained about it being removed that they added it back into the game ruining the balance...

I watched this so much when I was detoxicing from booze.It's like comfort food watching through one bluurred eye. I still love the voice.you're top....7 youtube commentators in youtube history. (FYI; for me it was TB at one so 7 is damn good).

Trying to look at balance and see how much of the four SC2 wins was due to SC2 superiority vs other issues. For the ZB, Dark is obviously more comfortable with Z2 In both games where Dark was Brood War, which significantly changes things. In both games Dark's ZB lack of anti-air crushed him. But Brood War zerg has an incredibly obvious mid-game anti-air unit he never used: scourge. It may be that early spire is just necessary in T2 v ZB to counter air play. Or maybe he needed a stronger hydra investment and more back home. So players have to choose between mutaling or hydra lurker. So I don't think this necessarily means ZB is UP, just that Dark didn't fully account for what the lack of Z2 queens means for changing his strategy. Now for TB. For the first game, a roach-ravager all-in from Dark is always hard to hold, so it's hard to see what that means for balance. The spider mines make it much more risky to move them across though; maybe if TY had more aggressively zoned out the zergling triggers and harrassed on the path. Or maybe if he'd walled off on the low ground. I know it departs from BW, but allowing add-ons to be built on either side might be something for the modders to consider; would have made factory walls more viable. Second game, again, Dark's multitasking is hard to account for. TB doesn't seem to have a good counter to nydus. But the valkyrie is potentially a very good counter to locusts in-flight, just have to be more aggressive before they land. Lack of sensor towers also hurts in spotting them though. Maybe wraith valk squads to hunt down spotter overseers and zerglings? And some BCs to counter queens? Wraiths are mediocre against ground, but they're still decent against targets that can't shoot up. I am curious how valks would fare against corruptors. Vipers may be an issue though. I do want to know what happens if an irradiated unit enters a nydus worm.

Today is my turn to say that these casts do make my day a bit better. Thank you for the hard work. You make it look easy.

i LOVE watching this. ive played so much sc1 by myself, with siblings, at lan parties. my dad got us into it when we were kids and we played so much. its so refreshing and cool to watch the clash of sc's

These maps are so miserable for sc1 terran. Siege tanks were so much better when they had open fields so they could long wall concave. But in all of these insanely tight corridors, they are basically just more hazardous to themselves against zerg. hell, people could probably just build dropper lords and plop them on tanks to troll win the game. Artosis would really love seeing that

Dude, so glad brood war won. Maybe siege tanks do need the siege upgrade from the start

Artosis : *sees the name Fighting Spirit* -makes incomprehensible angry Terran noises-

Dark didn't understand that rushing up tech wasn't the answer

please keep SC2 Evo coming!

If I place my phone 10ft away I can almost remember StarCraft 64

I love getting to watch this every morning while I'm trying to wake up.

I definitely think Firebats are the move for SC1 Terran in the early game. maybe super early hydras are viable to deal with reapers, but it might be too expensive to get to.

"I only played Big Game Hunters" hits hard

Finally a sc1 terran match thats not just tanks and vultures

Im only here for the Queen's impressions.. never gets old

The “I waited 14 years” bit with Brenda was awesome.

I want to point out that in SC1 on the N64, you could select 18 units at once not 12 lmao

I wish I could have seen those SC1Terran air units with upgraded attack.

I feel like comparing Sc2 units to Brood War units is like comparing vehicles. The newer units have more features and are safer, but the old ones are better built.

My fav Part was when IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII attacked IIIIIIIIIIIII but IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII was able to counter IIIIIIIIIIIIII's overextension!

15:00 going 7 bases, plus one macro hatch in main. WTF was Dark thinking?

Here we go again. On the train watching Winter, happy days!

That lore friendly surround at 12 minutes

Dark's Player card is truly final boss worthy.

love pros playing! High skill cap is what makes this interesting to watch! The lower elo plays just doesn’t tickle the spot

Apesar de que amo ambos juegos, creo que los VS son algo injustos para Broodwar, tomando en cuenta que SC2 tiene las mejoras económicas en todo sentido, tienen el Cronobust, la inyección de larva y las mulas. Espero que pronto encuentren el mejor balance

Just out of curiosity, I dug out my original Starcraft CD, and yep, it's version 1.0. So I guess I get to join the nostalgia crowd.

need MOAR of this

this mod is the most fun I've had with this game in a while

It's very noticeable that SC1 builds are not balanced for 8 workers start and lack defense early on. The mod makers should consider a 5 workers start toggle option for more interesting early games between SC1 and SC2 units and eco.

OMG I remember the gold old days of SC2 and yes definitely remember MVP one of the best Terran players...

I'm starting to think that this is the future of Starcraft. The next game should have the BW ZTP, SC2 ZTP and SC3 ZTP and the option to play mixed and monogen matches

Esta bueno.. no sabía que había este modo de juego. Sigue subiendo más videos de 2 vs 2. Saludos desde PERÚ

a lot of games lost because the SC1 race pickers refuse to use turrets early game because they still think they are playing SC2 races

I'd really like to see some changes to make it more balanced this is really cool to watch and i'd like to see it retain popularity

I would love to see brood war maps, they are kinda wild lol.

You will cast more of this content. You will like casting this content, I will like this content, you will become the epitome of SC1 in SC2, you were born for this.

I've tried to download SC Evo, where do you do it?

Does anyone remember how cool that green CD of Star Craft Brood War was?

love the sc1 v sc2 content winter! Also love that sc1 music

what was that thing you put up on the screen at 41 minutes? I've never seen that before.

Terran makes liberator. "GG" BTW, all we ever played in brood wars was fastest map possible variations.

How i take bonus for units? It's a mod? Or vanilla game make this?

I notice SC1 terran really shines with infantry and players do much better when taking the initiative, instead of doing vulture tank 2 base camp.

This one sparks joy!

flash vs maru but the twist is there playing the other game, so maru is SC1 terran, Flash is SC2 Terran.

controversial take : the only balanced game mode is mirror matchup or teamgame where both sides have all races

The last one is so dope

Blasted “Terran One” in discord last night, never forget where you came from!!

I like the new overlay setup duder. Peace.

I don’t get why the tin man who’s playing Zerg said I don’t have a heart. WHAT ABOUT THE HEART OF THE SWARM!!!

Hey! Anyone knows where can I find replays of this mode?

this is so frustrating to watch... First the SC1 Terra. Build Science Vessels you can kill SC2 Zerg easy. Then the SC1 Zerg, why no Defilers and no Spire for Scourge. SC1 Zerg can easy win, build the cheap Scourge as anti air and Defiler with Dark Swarm to neutralize all Terra units. So frustrating!

me: long have I waited

When's the SC 2 and 1 tournament?

I feel like Devourers would destroy just about everything sc2 air has. XD

there was a map called starbound that was more sc1 like with sc1vsc2 stuffs many many years ago

There's never a bigger twist than Dark losing the series

idk how he'll do it but can we get the Dark mirror match with SC2 vs BW

I would pay to see Clem vs any top tier Broodwar Z or P

Winter we need 4K res, would be awesome :p

I'd be more surprised if TY doesn't have the worker lead 30:49

Now I'm kinda having fun imagining a full hybrid roster, Mutas turning into Guardians and Devourers alongside Corruptors able to turn to broodlords, Vultures supplementing hellions, Arbiters recalling voidrays into position. There would probably be a massive emphasis on having to pick and choose your tech options in that version.

Does Dark know Nydus Canals in SC1? 🤔

SC1 vs SC2 with Dark? Yes please. PLEASE get Clem to play BW Terran bio.

need to see Defilers and Guardians!

So much fun, than you ❄️☃️

TY winning by a classic bw cheese is so poetic.

Game 2- one spire with scourge would have made all the difference .

They aren't using the powerhouses that the casters are in Broodwar!

Roaches just laughing as they get tickled by wraiths , then walks into 50 mineral worth of spidermines and get obliterated . Broodwar has such different type of units, it creates very good games.

I've yet to, in any of these matches, see a Plague drop or even really the use of Defilers. Even in matches like against Terran Bio where it's a literal I-Win button, and I'm starting to get triggered. It's great content and show, but I want to see the game deciding plagues at least once.

yall gotta get out the hydras when you're on the classic zerg.

22:22 was that am scv repairing a marine? or attacking it?

Cartooned has quite a bit of pixels :D

Technically.... Protoss has doors.... very temporary energy doors as in force fields... But they should get a unit called "Hodor" whose only ability is to create a permanent force field, that can be de-activated at will... Anyways.... Winter is coming!

How do you people think they can balance the BW Zerg vs Sc2 Terran? The reaper is impossible to deal with in the early game. I think the only solution is to make zerlings speed only cost minerals and make it very fast to finish. What do you think?

im so confused - I had no clue you could use brood war units in SC2 - how is this achieved?

Terran roasting but what about the counter to Dark Swarm? No other unit besides the bat can combat the bat under the DS

research siege mode in sc1 was a paiiiiiin😂

It felt in that game like sc2 terran is just stronger than sc1 zerg with hellbats vs no banelings

The wow comment gets a wow , I didn't do star craft but dota 2 took a lot of time

TY using the TYrador Skins tho

SC1 Units got nerfed hard in this mod ...

Said it in another game, but STIM TO WIN!!!

the ir a chance to have Hydra playing? XD