Starfield - 8 Months Later 

I absolutely love the new maps

Did you forget that the free flow dialogue system is in fallout 4 just turn off the cinematic mode literally took 8 months for them to add a feature fo4 had at launch

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All these extra options, but, The Main Story and The AI, SUCK... The point of STORY DRIVEN !!!! hello? Anybody home? 🧠 Action 1st/3rd player hybrid shooter game. IS TO HAVE A GOOD STORY, ...what is this? NO MANS SKY all over, THE STORY THE STORY THE STORY SUCKS !!! ITS GARBAGE!!! That's the ALLURE, not The Graphics, and The Game play OPTIONS, and GAME PLAY TWEEKS,. THE STORY THE STORY THE STORY SUCKS !!!!, The COMPANIONS ARE LAME !!!!. I'm not falling for THE BAIT AND SWITCH, i don't play MINDLESS GAMES WITH NO SOUL, WITH NO REAL PURPOSE. That's Starfield. All these other changes are DISTRACTIONS from the Real Issues. Like STORY, and A.I., they both SUCK, the A.I is UNCHALLENGING. THE STORY IS MEDIOCRE, THE CHARACTERS ARE NOT INTERESTING, IDENTITY POLITICS RUINS GAMES, THIS ALL INCLUSIVE BS. YOU CAN TALK AND TALK AND TALK, TIL YOUR FACE IS BLUE. IVE NOT LOST SIGHT OF WHAT MAKES A GAME GREAT, THE STORY THE STORY THE STORY, ....all this other BS Bethesda is focused on, WILL NOT DRAW GAMERS BACK INTO STARFIELD. IST IMPRESSIONS, this is not Cyberpunk 2077, ...Gamers 8n MASSES are not sitting around waiting for Bethesda/Microsoft to fix Starfield. Starfield main problem is LAME CHARACTERS, LAME STORY, LAME A.I. And none of these issues have been addressed, none. So, imo , This is a Mind fk, but, I know why I like a game, and why I hate a game. I cannot be tricked. Bamboozled, Hoodwinked, Mind Fkd, The JEDI MIND TRICK DOES NOT WORK ON ME.

Full release in ps5?

LMAO, this is so true with Bethesda unfortunately.

Grossly over exaggerated, the entire game is content complete, he maps just got an update and some new ship options have been made available, nothing ground breaking haha the game has hundreds of hours of content. I don't understand this argument at all

​@@MrRiceGuy95 they most likely saw this comment somewhere and copy/pasted it to farm for likes since criticizing is all the rage these days

@@MrRiceGuy95 you mean hundreds of hours of walking from point A to point B without encountering anything? or do you mean hundreds of hours of loading screens?

Eh. Doubt we will see any additions to combat. Bethesda might add the rest though. I actually like all of these ideas btw

They won't. As long as people keep preordering their games, buying stuff on F76's market, and keep giving them money overall, they won't change. You're the problem. The person reading this is the problem. I'm the problem. The people unconsciously supporting the company by giving them money year over year are the problem. Until that changes, nothing will

Space walking ? That’s useless. That is not what’s wrong with this game. Not having ability to “space walks” the foundation of this game is garbage.

They won't do any of that, they will continue to disappoint

Considering its about the Varun and they seem to be located on 1 planet from what i could gather i do think we might hopefully see a more down to planet experience with a fully handcrafted map

You’re a genius. Now I really hope it’s this

This is what I’ve been hoping it would be as well. Now, if they could go make the current city areas the size of FH and add more details/POIs around them, that would do wonders for the exploration around the cities.

Honestly farharbor is too small of a map to make up for the hundreds of other bare planets. If it wants to be worth a purchase it better be the size of Fallout 4 or Skyrims base map. If not it aint worth much of a purchase for me.

100% This is the only thing they should be working on.

Lmao I never thought about that but it does make sense. I get why it’s like that but still kind of funny now that you mention it

I haven't heard grind my gears in so long lol

@@ouzykun8796me either love family guy lmao

Yea, this is the only thing that kind of bugs me, but not enough to not enjoy the game

Dang, now I'll be thinking about it from here on out 😢

Something like power play in Elite Dangerous where radiant quests affect the factions in the galaxy and changes their behavior. For example delivering supplies to the UC should trigger events where they attack pirate strongholds on planets.

Mod support has never been and will never be crucial. 🤦‍♂️

It’s only 300 years in the future exactly how much shit to explore is humanity supposed to have left scattered through the galaxies.. fully actualise the cities, they’re so hollow compared to other bgs titles. It was like playing outer worlds in that regard. Dead people dead city. I dread to think how much playing the bad guy would suck in starfield

It will probably get better over time unfortunately the way games are now, you basically have to wait 1-2 years before its good, the same thing happened with diablo 4 diablo 4 is starting to look really good. If you wait till the next dlc in November to play it it will be a completely different game from launch.

I'm hoping that Shattered Space starts to add some of this stuff

1 yes agreed. 2 the crafting in starfield knocks skyrim & FO4 into a cocked hat. + research, a whole other tier of crafting which never even existed before. 3 the skills are waaaaay better than cyberpunk. When i played that game (after 1.5 but before PL) almost half the skills seemed to be +0.5% damage, +1% damage.... & the "tree" (more like a big bush just randomly sprawling on the ground) was unintuitive.

Exactly

Game is big. They won't do everything or the delays were gonna keep happening. Be grateful it's happening now, if not, don't play it then. Move on and stop stressing over nothing

@@Cibbic No, Bathesda should be grateful, not the people buying an unfinished game.

​@@CibbicDamn how much Bethesda cock sucking have you been doing lately. If games are released in shit states then they should be hit with backlashes. Cyberpunk did it and it deserves the backlash. So did No Man's Sky. Assuming that Starfield somehow through some miracle manages to get good, it should still be dunked on for being dogshit slop.

@@Cibbic who's stressing? I'm sorry you're so used to accepting broken games at launch.

Agreed. It would make it a brand new game.

Or at bare minimum make the things you mentioned random encounters. They have a lot of cool ones already in the game but they need some more variety.

That’s my biggest disappointment. How realistic is it to let a loading screen cover the time of travel. Are we to assume that your guy sat in a ship for months to deliver f*cking coffee to the chick in New Atlantis ? How about introduce jump gates like Freelancer and countless other space sims?? You can manually travel between planets at sub-light speeds and cancel out at any time.

This. 1000% this.

This combined with random encounters on the surface of plants. Just look at how Fallout does it.

It’ll never have a cyberpunk 2.0 update, it’s Bethesda we’re talking about bro💀

Yeah I remember hearing that Cyberpunk 2077 was a good game covered with all the issues. Starfield is just a mediocre game plain and through.

@@judith678 Except Cyberpunk at release was even more broken than Starfield. Let's not do revisionist history here.

1. Cyberpunk still isnt very good 2. Cyberpunk at launch was more broken than Starfield ever was I don't know if Starfield will ever be good but you're delusional if you think they have a greater hole to dig themselves out of then CDPR did.

@@PeteyPirahna77 That’s why I said a good game covered with issues. It was broken gameplay wise but the story was still very good and engaging. The characters as well. Starfield doesn’t have anything like that.

You're just gaslighting people by saying that though. If you like the game you like it, if you don't - you don't, its that simple

Is just gaslighting, like those people who swear Halo will get better.

​@@r.e.z9428halo can only get better they can't mess it up any more

There's quality of life improvements, but if you have issues with the lackluster storytelling, the absurdity of the setting, the procedural systems, AI, or other core elements, then it won't be a significant change from what made you drop the title first time around.

​@@monodyright, & just a reminder to folks that it's ok to not like something & to just move on.

yea 100% waiting for shattered space. Should be loads better by then and looking forward to jumping back in

If they added a land vehicle it would have been worth it. I’m sure it’s a good update but hopefully we get the vehicle next.

@@Ray-dl5mp yup, I've stopped exploring because it's not worth trecking 5 minutes to see 1 of 12 POIs. Hope they actually had a numerous about of new POIs and a few handcrafted worlds

Yup. exactly. for me, I'll be back when they release the mod tools.

Lmao well Starfield gained over 76% of players so there's a reason to go back. Lol 😆

Kinda blew my mind that that wasn't the case in this game. Ok, akila is walled & there are dangerous creatures right outside. But jemison? It should sprawl a bit right? On the plus side, there are no loading screens when entering or leaving cities. That means mods can add entire new districts to cities (or handcrafted locations nearby) & the player can explore them seamlessly, like in previous Bethesda games.

ITS WILD . I forgot starfield existed.

Took like 2 years for Cyberpunk, so I'm just waiting for Starfield.

@@beartackle exactly. People pick and choose lol.

Yet yall glaze cyberpunk which was broken for over a year 💀 And No man’s land took years to get good

@@beartacklesorry but that’s bs. The game was always incredible at its core. The difference between starfield and cyberpunk was that cyberpunk was an incredible game with an incredible story from the start. Starfield is the exact opposite. Idk how they managed to get worse considering their last big release was, what, 7 years prior?

This guy hit the nail on the head.

Agree, also give me truly empty planets that are only there for resources, not every planet needs to have human settlements, thankfully there is already a mod that does this.

Hey man stop you're making too much sense!

Exploration in Starfield is literally just searching for new POIs. There is nothing else to find on the planet surface. What many players don't realize, is that POI searching is best done from space via the planet map. There is NEVER a reason to actually land your ship and search for a new location on foot. Never. Just jump to a different system, look at the planet map, and land at whatever POI you are looking for. I don't know what the point of the new vehicles is going to be as long as this is true.

@@tjpatton8562 There is not just 3 or 4 settlements, there is thousands, the capitals should be bigger but it's a videogame, you can either have big procedurally generated megalopolis that only look good from far way like in Star Citizen, or you can have Small handcrafted cities.

Bro not even getting through the tutorial does not count as giving the game another shot

@@willroth7521 it does when the tutorial is fuckin horrible and forces you to do it

Yeah. Same. There has to be greater variety of POIs. Also we need Real space travel and communications - 1 min to travel between planets in same system. - 4 min to travel between systems. - During travel you can walk in your ship - Add Space random encounters - During travel you can be hailed by other ships - During travel you can encounter other ships that forces you to stop or get out of hyperdrive - During travel crew members can pick up signals and inform you of something interesting. This will give you an option to make a decision and change course. - During travel get phone video calls from known NPCs or faction groups. If they don’t make space travel interesting and unpredictable then I won’t get the game.

What level are you? New pois (i believe!) are levelled so more start appearing as you level. Either that or they slipped new ones in with each update without mentioning it in the patch notes but that wouldn't seem right when they were otherwise so specific about what each update did.

@@skyriminspace I don't remember. It's been months since I played. However, I did play for 300 hours, so I was probably fairly high level. The tedium of running into the same POIs over and over made exploration so boring that I stopped playing.

​​@@DebiDalioI can confirm at very high levels you run into more intricate and larger bases on planets

@@Originalchili That's cool. Unfortunately, you have to go through a lot of tedium to get to a very high level.

Loading screens aren’t fixable unfortunately, they’d need to remake much of the engine for that lol

@@smhhtthey could hide the loading screens though. They did that in Fallout 4 when you used elevators. Also, when we Grav Jump it flashes white, but then the loading screen goes black. If they had the loading screen as white instead (or continue to show swirly colors) - it would appear to be one continuous animation.

​@@t-rexreximus359 bc they didnt put any afford in hiding the loding screens i think they are cooking someting up. Otherwise they would have invested in hiding them

1 big issue is why are trees on other planets the size of earths trees or even the monsters

@@t-rexreximus359 *some* loading screens, they couldn't hide all.

lmao

They look good now what are you talking about?

Yeah, but at least it fits with the bland aesthetic of the rest of the game.

Its literally a 3d model of the actual city formation...

Fallout 3/NV and Skyrim were basic but perfectly serviceable. Fallout 4 was awful, especially in dungeons. The new city maps are quite attractive and I think rendered maps on planets would be a good addition. Something like Skyrim's gorgeous overworld map showing off the planet's geography.

I mean. Those are thi gs they can change up in DLC I suppose. Personally I do like that they went for a sort of hopeful but grounded future, but agree certain aspects did feel quite sanitised. Like they were afraid to lean into the edgier aspects of their world. Especially regarding anything sexual. While the dancers on Neon are genuinely hilarious, it doesn't really scream "hedonistic" the way Neon really needs. It's not a deal breaker for me, but it does feel strange when you consider how fucked up they're happy to go with Fallout for example. Hopefully Shattered Space can start to bring some of that into Starfield, but it is unlikely that they're going to go back and 'remaster' for lack of a better word, the existing parts of the game.

I honestly thought some/most of the side missions like the Vanguard and Freestar Rangers quests were so fun and interesting. The main story though was just painfully boring I could not give a single fuck about wandering the galaxy to find a piece of metal to place in a house for everyone to stare at and comment on

You don't want to be StarBORN? Do you want to be DragonBORN? Get it?

@@jfkst1 why did they decide to drop decision making from their hands? I keep reloading saves to see if all the different dialogue choices lead fo different responses and choices but literally every single one leads to the same branch. You can't stray from the path. It's 2024 why is this such a difficult concept?

yup. Because there's no space travel. Only fast-travel and cutscenes. Until then, I'm out..

That's what your parents said about you

​@@xman777bwhy are all you but hurt Ponies still talking about a game that came out 7 months ago, should you not be spending your gaming time on Hellblade videos l

@Valhura77 dude, I don't even own a PS5. I own a Series X, and regard the 360 as the greatest console of all-time. Now how the **** am i a pony ??

I agree that not everything can be fixed at this stage. Open world exploration will never be as fun as in a TES title. For that they'd need to add a ton of handcrafted content on top of the generic content. But the improvements they made do make the game a lot more enjoyable. They're on the right track and right now I'm enjoying another playthrough because of it.

And BG3 is an inventory management simulator

@@jvazacas L take

@@luizhenriquem1634 not really, bg3 is an inventory management simulator with the illusion of player choice.

@@jvazacas Weak bait, 2/10

@luizhenriquem1634 it's truth. Your choices don't majorly change the story at all and you spend more time in inventory management than playing.

its great the first play through.

@@Hattori_Fujiyama great is a overstatement about the experience in starfield.

@@jondagamer4466 i thought it was great. not 10/10 but pretty good. it fell apart for me after that though.

Oh boo hoo. Have you played inventory management simulator, I mean BG3? No different

Yeah and it's amplified by the fact that you can't do much on most planets so you are forced to travel to other ones and watch tons of cutscenes and loading screens. That's why I chose to remain in Neon for a while and do quests just there so the loading screens are minimized in a way.

@@valentinvas6454Only land on maps with markers on them

@@jvazacasJesus quit meat riding. There’s a reason BG3 won all 3 major GOTY awards (the first of literally any video game) and Starfield barely gets mentioned now lmao

@@jvazacas Go back to bed Timmy

I did, however, have a bounty mission where I showed up and was absolutely ecstatic that there was a whole ship stealth mechanic I wasn't aware of and needed to load a backup-save and not go for the bounty quite yet. And then realized that the model just didn't load in and couldn't be targeted. That wasn't super rock-n-roll.

It’s just not a good game

You should learn how long it takes for a signal to be sent back to you from one end of space to another. It takes voyager 2 18.5 hours to communicate with earth. Now, how long do you think it will take to get a signal from one solar system to another

@@wstorm20Lol. Making this argument in a universe that has literally settled a thousand systems is nonsensical. You think they did it with ZERO communication? How the hell did the UC and Freestar collective even fight without effective communication between planets?? 😂😂 In a universe that allows you to jump to planets with grav drive technology, you’d think maybe even a way to send a text message a bit faster woulda been invented.

starfield is trash

@@4markie you must be smart and important. You convinced me.

Other than at the awards, starfield has done exceptionally well.

61% all time and 50% recent on steam begs to differ. Not to mention the player base fell off hard and it’s got far less daily players than fallout 4 and Skyrim, Skyrim being over a decade old at this point and FO4 is getting up there. Can we stop trying to sugar coat this? It was a flop, let it be a flop, don’t lick Bethesda’s wounds for them and coddle them by reminding them that they’re such a special boy for trying. Let this be a fail, let this be the thing they remind themselves off when they make future games so they can avoid a mediocre mess again.

@@freddywright4239 you sound like a social justice warrior, screaming into the void whilst everyone else gets on with their lives. Bethesda know exactly what they're doing & if you happen to be in the target audience for a game like starfield (which you don't appear to be), it's actually a blast. They haven't failed, they just made a game you don't like. Not sure i can help you any further than that.

@@skyriminspace how does using facts and logic make them sound like an SJW? The game sucks. Plain and simple.

@@_S8EN_ the statistic, although largely devoid of context which is necessary for statistics to have any real value, was the only part of the comment that *didn't* sound like something an SJW would say. You are entitled to your opinion.

Agreed 👍

Flying into a gas giant makes no sense in this universe. Their tech isn’t that good

I don't think that's true. It's probably a lot more complicated than that.

@@lo-filogic no. its not.

I can't find a purpose for settlements besides hiding contraband.

Exactly, it’s as easy as calling a bad game a bad game

Todd Howard laughs at you holding all his numerous game of the year trophies while rolling in piles of cash from the numerous failures

God forbid us for enjoying a game

It’s an acquired taste Love FO4

You can enjoy whatever you want, but that doesn't change the quality of a product or the practices of a company. Apple, for example, uses literal slave labor to manufacture their products and charges ridiculous prices for said products. They're literally charging a thousand dollars for a bent piece of stainless steel that mounts their newest monitor, something a machinist could make in a shop for a fraction of a fraction of the price, and probably make it better. Same goes for Bethesda. You must consider the state of the industry, where gaming is now post-Witcher 3. A smaller studio made an empirically better game the same year as Fallout 4, yet because of the mysticism behind Bethesda, people continue to support their products. And I was one of them. I stood in line on 11-11-11 for Skyrim's midnight release. I have the collector's edition of New Vegas (admittedly not Bethesda, but their IP). I have every Elder Scrolls game on PC, the exception being ESO. I dropped out of college once because how much I played Fallout 4 😅 If you truly love something, you're must to constructively criticize it. That's the only way we grow. And Bethesda has not grown, they're closer to EA anymore than the indie studio that put fans first twenty years ago.

Imagine how amazing it will feel when you move on and invest that time to some actually good games

@@Vislow Wow you're so cool with that take. If only we could be like you. So edgy

@@Vislow Starfield is a good game, sorry you don’t think so gang. It’s no BG3 or Elden Ring but it’s got its charm. Worth the time for anyone who adores space which I do. Solid 6/10 game wit a 10/10 experience for me personally

@@Tuningforks85 You won't be, it's inherited not learned

Awesome to see someone enjoying it that much!