Starfield is a bad game 

Yeah. I loved even Fallout 3, especially the DLCs, and also Fallout 4, again, especially DLCs. but Starfield wont get better over time, even with DLCs, cause the core game is a hot garbage! This cant be fixed. Graphics wiont get "better" oir more interesting, DLC can bring great story, but the whole main game is dull af. I'm out of words at how this disappointed me. such a wasted opportunity. Made for years only to come out half baked and unfinished, unpolished, uninspired and booooooooring. But at least we get pronouns at the start :P (heelvsbabyface was right)

I didnt like skyrim but I still felt compelled to explore it for 60+ hours before fus ro dahing and uninstalling. This game felt like trash immediately.

Yeah Skyrim is massively flawed but the segue from helgen to riverrun to whiterun was better paced. They killed the main story by making you Dragonborn within the first few hours though instead of having to earn the title.

I was invested within 20 minutes when I first played Skyrim. 84 hours in starfield I just want to massacre every city

Skyrim is fantastic from the first second. It just creates the world and makes it feel like a real place, with real people and real political strife. I haven’t played starfield, but it just seems too safe based on everything I’ve seen. I might pirate it, just to try it out.

I stopped playing it around 10hrs in. Horrible facial animations. Terrible space travel system, that has menu after menu. Where is the freedom Todd Howard promised...

@@Vor_Tex_Sun you can unlock the "freedom" perk when you complete the challenge "stop playing the game"

If anything it gets worse the longer you play it for, which is really saying something considering how bad the first act is

hahahaha you put 80 hours into this and admitted it, everyone who put more then 10 hours into starfeild should have to wear a helmet in public

Yet another example of people continuing to buy their shitty games because they don't know any better. They have to be told how to feel about these games. Todd Howard hypes it up and people get excited then they just complain about it. You know how shitty these games have been so you do not get to bitch about it. Stop buying shit games and you won't waste money.

It honestly looks like Space Fallout 4. This was the same feeling I got from the intro to Fallout 4, great in concept, shit in execution. They expect you to form attachments to a character within seconds but dont put the hard work into writing good characters. You can't like Nora/Nate in Fallout 4 because you don't know them, you don't know what the couple did, or what they liked to do or anything beyond the fact Nate is ex US Army and did a tour in Anchorage the worst armed conflict in Fallout history and his wife Nate is a lawyer. That's it.

@@Rexhunterjthe saddest part is fallout 4 did exploration 10 times better than this crap Bethesda is one of most overrated companies their modder save them literally

​@@GoatBoat22I'll say it again, as someone with thousands of mods in other Bethesda titles, I honestly prefer a modular game rather than one tailored game with no mod capability. If you've experienced it, you know that modders give passion projects that no corporations could give.

Copium and hype from Bethesda superfans. Starfield is a 7/10. Nowhere near a 10/10

@@ThirsttyRecon Nope, pirated. All of them, I pirated.

the part that made me nope out is procedural generation, almost a guarantee those world would be as shallow as they are.

The moment that people started getting angry that this game was getting 7/10 reviews told me that people will buy literal dogshit in a box from Bethesda and call it amazing.

I knew it'd be a dud the second I saw the generic boring gunplay

Okay yet no man's sky also has tons of planets, so does elite dangerous so I don't see the problem unless you're just that LAZY.

@@Dildo_Baggins-sl5tv The problems isn't the quantity of the content, but the quality of the content, imagine a tasty soup and now imagine it being thinned with tons of water, sure there's alot of it, but it's not good.

Phil spent 7.5 Billion to acquire Zenimax, and get this game on Xbox. Lets that one sink in.

I will wait a few years to check it out. I'm sure modders will make it enjoyable but it's no excuse for Bethesda being bad.

no real progress since oblivion in the most important parts: complexity, depth, interactions with the world/npcs - shameful

True. I have no mans sky on pc but i think im gonna install it on PS5 while im at work and dive into that. No mans sky seems to be the go to for someone wanting a space adventure@@nothingburger6267

That would be a case of polishing a turd, I don't think you can mod out what is fundamentally a very poor game@@jonathansoko1085

It's just Bethesda fan boys who have the cost fallacie. I spent 70 bucks it must be good

@@griggletv6974 There's also the Xbox fan boys using the PC/Xbox only release for Starfield to shit on the Sony fans too. It's sad and funny that grown ass men and women fight over which colour their console is. But then again we see it with physical sports, men and women fighting in the streets over which jersey is the better jersey.

@@Rexhunterj it's really sad considering it's over a boring bathesda game

​​@@griggletv6974I might be one of these Bethesda boys you refer to since I enjoy the game. But funny, since I had no intent on NOT pirating it, and I did exactly that. It's pretty decent but I'm guessing the price doesn't justify the classic Bethesda flaws - it has existed for decades but somehow they get a big following after launch anyway. Though if I'm being honest? As someone with thousands of mods installed in other Bethesda games, I prefer a game with this modularity rather than one tailored game with no mod capability. No corporations could give you what these modders passion projects do.

@@kenz2756 rock on buddy if you like the game good on you

It came from the underworld though…

Nope. It's numero duo. PS1 lunch was THE MOST EPIC man

@@AK-zs9gj What is that? You mean like, the sound of sandwiches or something? Wtf are you talking about?

@@horusthehorse you obviously never played psx

@@AK-zs9gj I played PS1 and I never encountered a "lunch" sound!!!! WHAT IS GOING ON????!

Well, in Fallout 4/76 that's not true, you begin to realise within the first 19 levels which junk items are the ones to farm for use or sale, and it usually doesn't take much longer to explore the crafting system to find bulk junk. In Fallout it's obvious that 'joining' items eg; Ductape, Glue, Screws, Gears, Springs, etc. Are all very valuable and also can be rare. I remember when that game first came out, I'd trade with players for my bulk springs and screws, people were willing to pay big caps for junk because they didnt want to farm it, luckily for me I'm an enjoyer of exploring locations and looting so it's a good fit. That wasn't intentional design though, that's totally an emergent gameplay thing that Bethesda accidentally created for those games.

i dont get it theres junk items and then theres resources

in FO4 and skyrim you could reasonably play them by simply looting chests and NPCs, FO4 added resources in the form of junk and it made most things worth picking up, but only if you were really invested in the crafting systems. in starfield most of the clutter is entirely useless but now the crafting resources are also strewn about, it kinda forces you to sift through every little thing if you want resources and its a hassle

@@kgtrees2423 It's bad game design. It may be 'realistic' but all the time they put into making assets for entirely useless items could be better spent on.. oh I don't know.. writing a story that makes coherent sense and isn't blander than a mouthful of wallpaper paste.

@@benmckinlaywilliamson3394 I agree it's bad game design. I'm so tired of item bloat and / or seeing 7 gajillion crafting resources or junk scattered everywhere in existence.

Mass Effect is just a traditional linear RPG. There is no freedom for the player really. It's a fantastic game but Starfield is a completely different beast, it does so much more in terms of player freedom and true roleplaying. Can you be a space pirate in mass effect? Build your own ship? This is just a completely different experience

@@tylerstimson Like I get what you're saying, but @eatbulletz specifically said 'introduce the player to a new universe and characters'. World-building is not specifically linked to whether the game is linear or not. Or are you arguing that being an open world game means it doesn't have to do a good job introducing the player to the setting? Apples and Oranges may both be fruit, but they are both best enjoyed fresh. That's why I don't think the difference between linear and open world is at all an excuse when it comes to establishing the world and characters therein. Regardless of video game style, these things must be done well in order for it to be a good story-driven game.

To me I like just being thrown into a world. I don't want to be introduced. I want to be transported to whole new world and immersed in it. Which for me Starfield did wonderfully! I loved going through the museum and learning about the colony war. Talking to shop owners, stopping and reading posters and really taking in the environmental storytelling. I don't understand why people think it did a bad job of introducing the world and characters and wouldn't mind some examples of what was bad about it?

To be honest ME2 is the best of that series.

@@robertcochrane2671 that's subjective I'm talking about the opening hours of the game. The first mission when there's invasion and you're there to investigate and you're introduced with the characters and universe. And how it grips you compared to Starfield.

Because gamers just say "it's a Bethesda game what do you expect" they just let them be this lazy and treat the game as an amazing 10/10 game (new vegas)

@@dolphin5177 TotalBiscuit would have had a field day with Starfield...

Probably because they won't stop using the Creation engine which is based off the Gamebryo engine from 1997

​@@dolphin5177people treat bethesda like a special needs child. Everything has to be compromised. Every little step in has to be a big deal

You can change the fov with a quick text file. Just Google it. I hate the game but might as well help you.

People bash Bethesda for this and that, for even Fallout 3, 4, which I liked. But....Starfield is a piece of rotting shit! Graphics, sounds, atmosphere, NPCs, feeling and all is MUCH better in Baldurs Gate 3. That game is a gem. Starfield is lazy junk omg I cant fathom who greenlighted this shit....From Skyrim which was great, to F5 which was OK, to F76 which was hot mess garbage but at least atmosphere was there, and now to this? Starfield is honestly a piece of shit worthless game. Not worth 70$, not worth even 10$. Fanboys bought it, noobs bought it and Bethesda made their dough and don't care.

Mass Effect is just such a special game. Even the 3rd one and I don’t care about your nitpicks. I finally got the legendary edition maybe 6 months ago and played through to 3/4ths of the way through ME3 and then got distracted by something else and haven’t gone back but even now, seeing Mass Effect comments, I’m wondering if I want to just restart and play it all over. The ride is just so good. I think I’ve played 3 times through not counting the 4th legendary edition play through but would do it all again even though I know all the beats

​@@SirDenzington89I played the trilogy for like 5 times already. I walkthrough it once a year. Amazing game

the trilogy has its issues certainly but I love it marathoned the entire trilogy when the legendary edition came out xD@@SirDenzington89

ME1 has a special place in my heart. I got it on release as a teenager and it completely blew me away. Nothing before it came close to that experience. Just the starting menu with its visuals and music alone had me excited and interested, I remember just listening to the theme for 5 minutes before even opening the settings.

Don't forget that people instantly modded that out of fallout 3 and skyrim, but bethesda being bethesda kept it in newer games

@@XavierGoncalves89 Exactly lol. I'm convinced they just have completely embraced long and boring intros as part of their game identity, so they'll keep doing it despite it being one of the things almost anyone whos critical of game design points out when a Bethesda game comes out.

And also this Bethesda isn't the Bethesda from 15 years ago. The corporate turnover is 70% at some of these companies in a matter of years. Its an empty shell at this point. Type in "video game developer" into Wikipedia and see if you can spot what the problem might be. Its no longer about talent and making great games.

It's extra frustrating, because Morrowind nailed the opening of an open-world RPG 21 years ago. You are a prisoner, and they are like hey you are released! Get out of here! Also, go see this guy if you want some work, or don't, I'm not your dad. And you are immediately tossed out into the world to make your own way. No ridiculous Mcguffin shoved down your throat in the first 5 minutes. Every game since then Bethesda has been straying away from creating a good beginning to a game, and leaned more and more into lengthy on-rails intros with various ridiculous Mcguffins.

Personally I could not care a less about Bethesda or any other developer, putting a game in front of me that I really enjoy is all that matters.

There are cities where different shops require loading times. Not because they're that large but.. idk why. Feels like being back in 2010.

Their tech is crap. The ship itself is a diferent cell, so you have to load a diferent one when you leave it...this bad..

We tried to warn Bethesda about how fast travel had detracted from all their games since Morrowind, but it looks like they just had to go full retard with it. Hopefully, they’ll finally listen.

No Man's Sky is a small lake that you can stand flat foot on the bottom with your head above the surface. Starfield is an ocean as shallow as a kiddy pool.

the red dead redemption comparsion would actually be worse. You'd be placed in a zone where you see the town 100 feet away.. but you can never ride to it.. you couldn't ride to anything in the distance..

Todd kept bragging about the amount of lines recorded, but like this review says 'the detail is in all the wrong places'. Then compare this to BG3 where your character is given tags based on idenity and different dialogue options appear depending on who you are.

Same thing with crimson fleet out of my 70 hours in the game after destroying the uc as a crimson pirate there where only 2 lines of dialogue that even remotely suggested I was a criminal pirate and they werent even import also uc people could care less than the guy who stole their tech and wiped out their best fleet is just casually talking to them lol completely immersion breaking

My favourite quest for the rangers was when I got to walk around an empty spaceship looking for levers to flick in order to fix a ship in the purest example of needless game bloat I've ever seen. This game is terrible.

​​@@-EndlessHorizonwait a minute. You're an active member of the Crimson Fleet engaging in hostile actions towards the UC, but UC personnel couldn't care less if you're standing 1 foot from them? So does the game not have any form of Faction Reputation System that has it keep track of your actions towards different NPC groups and have those groups react accordingly? Or at the very least, have them turn hostile towards you when you're in proximity? Because it sounds like it doesn't.

@@DJWeapon8 It doesn't. One of the first quests you can encounter tells the background of the conflict between the UC and Freestar. I can wear my Ranger armor in UC territory and no hostility is met.

i bet he knows that and just lumped them together because, ya know, not the point of that video

To be fair, New Vegas is a "Bethesda approved" game - they did sign off on it, and give Obsidian all the assets and the time frame for making it... so they were involved in it's making, and probably to some degree responsible for it's broken state on release, considering they only gave Obsidian 18 months to make it.

I wouldn't say "Always been a mid game studio" since in Morrowind and Oblivion days, they were absolutely very much the forerunners of this type of game (RPGs in first person in a world of those sizes). Maybe even on Skyrim's original release.. Sure, by then they had terribly fallen behind in game mechanics that existed in First Person games, especially in terms of combat, but I can't mention a game from that era that did the whole package of that many quests, that big of a world and that wide of a selection of FPS RPG goodness better. There's a reason it was such a success. But since then, from Fallout 4 they have been behind or at least treading in place and it reeally shows by now in a way that just feels average on many levels when compared to todays games. Sure, it can still have its charm and be fun enough and I blame no one if they still enjoy it, but they absolutely aren't innovating on any level anymore. I feel they should have prioritized making an all new engine at least half a decade ago... So yes very much agreed on everything they are today

Morrowind-Skyrim and Fallout 3 were genuinely good games that pushed boundaries when they released. The problem is they haven't really innovated since and now the formula is dated and stale. Starfield has an additional problem of its vision and scope.

They definitely started going downhill with Fallout 3. Oblivion was lacking features that were in Morrowind, but it was still pretty solid. Fallout 3 is when they stopped following design documents and when Emil "Paper Airplanes" Pagliarulo took over as head writer. There were some other changes, but I'm not 100% familiar with everything and those are the things that stuck out to me the most.

Personally, they are the second worst triple aaa studio to date 343 holds first place and ea is third

Daggerfall was good too but their last truly good game was Morrowind.

Most realised that after Fallout 4. What took you so long to realise?

If I had to pick any mod for Bethesda to "rip off", I'd put SkyUI as the absolute number one thing. The problem is they design for console first and foremost and then they do the minimum work for the PC release.

For fucks sake red dead 2 shows player food animations THEYVE REPEATED THE SAME SYSTEM FOR FOOD FOR MORE THAN A DECADE

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The dialogue in any elder scrolls game is 100 times better than what is happening in Starfield

The space ship crafting is awesome but then you get into space and you cant even go anywhere. What is the point lol

Same. I tried so hard to like it but its so boring and hollow.

Serpentis has almost constant attacks on nearly every moon/planet in the system you warp too. Combat is still boring but it's a place to grind exp and steal ships.

@@xmxh9596You can go explore though. You can land on planets and everything. Tons of fun.

@@DavidTMSN O yes land on barren wasteland planets and wonder around with nothing to do. Very fun!

THIS! While the minigame was easy on previous titles at least it wasn't a time sink just to be a time sink. Half the time I spend in a dungeon is this annoying AF minigame.

Yes, it was straight up stupid. At least Skyrim was skill based and not some lame puzzle.

Honestly I didn't have problems with it but it messed up pacing so much eventually I just stopped looting it wasn't fun at all.

@@JohnSmith-wd1oq That's the thing - it's not that the minigame is itself bad just that people didn't pay $100 for "Bethesda's Circle Pin Game" which comprises a significant portion of your time in Starfield.

@@pigpuke It is though. The minigame is vad and time consuming. Never had a game where I invested in master lock and just stopped opening chests cause I couldn't be bothered. This game is such a turd all around.

You don't need to do 12 hours of the main story, its just not a bad idea if you are not sure what else to do. And I will say that the main story in this game is the best they've ever done by far. This game has a lot of different systems and it does have a learning curve, but I was having fun immediately. If you aren't having fun at all playing the game, don't play it. It's fine not everyone has to like it. But if you are enjoying it, it does get better and better the more you learn how to play and the more you get immersed in the world they've created.

​@@tylerstimsonyep the main storyline is beautiful. The crimson fleet writing could've been better in sections for sure. The end of the story is a massive choice genius way to make a loop of game play

@@tylerstimson Let me guess, you think transformers is the peak of cinema....Dude, the main line is soo freaking stupid from minute 1... For a RPG, people do so many things that make no sense at all....

@@Trikipum I personally think 2001 a space Odyssey is the peak of cinema. A movie which heavily influenced the themes in this game. Transformers is not a good analogy for Starfield. And I do think it's ok if Starfield isn't for you. But it's also ok if I love it and if the creator of God of War thinks it's the best single player game he's ever played. My enjoyment of it will not be diminished.

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I wish people would stop being so fucking negative to a game that’s no where near a bad game. I’m tired of this shit.

@@ProtoBrown Dude, it literally is that bad

​@@ProtoBrown yeah, the hate is massively overblown. Probably the most undeservingly hated game that I've ever played in my 20 years of gaming experience. It's not perfect, but still very far from being downright terrible. It offers you just what you expect from a Bethesda game.

@@youarealwayscorrect Maybe if you're expecting fallout 76 - Fallout 4 Bethesda. If you're expecting fallout 3, oblivion, morrowind, or Skyrim which are the games that earned Bethesda their reputation then hell no this is not even close to Bethesda standards. Did you even watch the video? It is chock full with comparisons to actual GOOD Bethesda games that demonstrate how starfield completely failed to capture the essence of a good Bethesda game from story to exploration. The hate the game is getting is completely warranted. Its like a worse Fallout 4 except that they marketed and hyped the shit out of it with all sorts of false promises so there is the extra insult of being deceived. Its a 6/10 game at best. The game is soulless man. It just demonstrates once again the Bethesda we loved is gone. I don't know if their talent was poached, retired, the project managers are horrible or what but they definitely have fallen off hard from the quality of story telling and world building they used to have.

@@winniethepoohxi1896 I still disagree with many of this reviewer's points. I've just hit my 20 hrs mark and there is still so much to uncover, both in terms of new engaging questlines and sidequests (arguably the best Bethesda has ever made since Oblivion) and many hand-crafted locations, with tons of stuff to explore and characters to meet, not to mention the enormous amount of optional activities that you're welcome to try out at any time. I personally think that this game does a decent job at capturing the essence of what Bethesda games are about. I still have my own fair share of gripes, but I also acknowledge the numerous positives. This is a game that can surprise and offer something new even if you've sunk a huge amount of hours into it. This is another Bethesda world that you can practically live in if you want, not just complete the main story and be done with it. Once again, this game is not perfect, just like every other game by this studio before it. However, it still offers you a huge and grandiose journey with lots of stuff to do and roles to play. So I still can't agree that this game is atrocious. Worst case scenario, I can see one calling it underwhelming and inferior to Bethesda's best products, but I still don't see how this game can be perceived as downright terrible, unless you have a certain negative bias towards this game.

If anything it's better than fallout those games are lack luster the definition of boring! But Starfield is really cool, sorry that you choose to hop onto the bandwagon of blind ignorant hatred but the game is actually awesome. Maybe just maybe it wasn't the game for you, gee wiz!

That's a good one. My take is that it's a Space-Themed Spaghetti Western gone wrong.

I was totally expecting that you'd have to persuade her into a romance to get access to her room then steal the code from her room. In your persuade it was a threat, in mine I pretty much just asked for it nicely and she gave it to me without reason. So disappointing.

This bit stuck out to me heavy too. Sadly we won't see quality writing till they let that goofball Emil Pagliarulo go or at the very least disallow him to have any kind of decision making in terms of writing.

LOL jesus christ

To add to this, when you do Ryujin industries quest they give you the mind control chip and they specify that it will not work if someones will is strong enough to resist it. I had one single level in the manipulation skill as a result of accepting the chip. When you talk to this lady you get a +7 manipulation option for her to give you her passcode and it just passes. She's all "you make a good point" and hands it over. I was pretty disappointed that it was met with no resistance.

Meanwhile guy at start gives you HIS WHOLE FARKING SHIP

buy a monthly of xbox pass for pc, it's like 10 bucks.

@@andrewdavies4280 or gamepass subscription. Even though we got lucky with this one

​@@andrewdavies4280 that's still a lot. Especially for how bad it runs on PC (with Intel and Nvidia hardware).

@@wcantin Runs fine for me mate, my computer isn't new - although it's not intell and nvidia - maybe update your graphics drivers? Had a couple crashes, but my computer isn't the most stable lol. I've heard there are issues for some, but also with the pass you get other games so you can still use it for other stuff.

Unfortunately, despite Bethesda apparently learning/changing nothing in over a decade people still happily lap this trash up. The dialogue is terrible when compared to BG3, The Witcher or Cyberpunk. The space exploration amounts to navigating a menu. Combat is dire. Even packed as a whole it still sucks.

Yeah, I had my doubts when they were clearly extremely reluctant to show any significant amounts of actual gameplay across multiple large expos/showcases over the last year. Turns out my thoughts were confirmed.

Yep, did complete the game in about 65 hours. It reeks of what I call "checklist game design". It is in many mechanical areas superior to fallout 4, but it lacks in immersion and feels very much on rails with no real choices that matters. The whole checklist stuff is that the game feels like a game design by different people who never talked together on what they were working on, so you get some very interesting side quests in a few cases, but extremely bland mainline story and a lot of fetch quests, where you travel across the galaxy for a Mcguffin and back again, spending about 3 minutes in each place. It just feels like segments glued together with least amount of effort cross teams talk. It feels like each team did the minimal required effort and moved on to the next task. Asset design was great, but weapons are pretty meh, and there is absolutely NO reason to play anything else than ballistic rifles. Space travel is just a quick travel system, and can mostly be completely ignored, click on planet, loading screen, wait for scan, hold X to land. Is pretty much the extent of space travel you get. Space travel isn't treated as an adventure itself, like you had when travelling from town to town in Skyrim with interesting points along the way. This is the lack of immersion that is present in other games, but not in Starfield, and once the immersion falls apart, a bethesda RPG falls apart.

It was written by chat gpt. No soul

Welcome to the Internet, it's full of you know what.

Just a bunch of people trying to convince themselves that this obviously mediocre game isn't mediocre. Most gamers are extremely dumb. They abandon any logic or critical thinking because facing reality is too much for them to handle.

The game is actually good, try to form your own opinion instead of letting the internet form it for you. If u think this game is bad, then u will never enjoy a game ever again, good job raising your expectations to an unrealistic lvl

@@thomaslium00 i can't tell if your joking or not

@@thomaslium00it is not a good game, it is an “okay” game or even “mediocre” game. If you think it’s a good game, you don’t know what a good game is. Fallout 4, Skyrim are good games. RDR2 and GTA 5 are great games. The mass effect trilogy are great games. Starfield is a major step backwards from fallout 4 and Skyrim. It’s very, very boring and repetitive. Fallout 4 had mystery, adventure and most importantly exploration which lead to random encounters and quests. The only crap I stumble upon in Starfield at a copy and paste settlement is “we lost one of our people, please walk for 5 minutes to a completely empty cave and just, fast travel them back”. Or “these pirates are bothering us, go shoot them” then you go to take care of them and it’s the same exact building and pirates as the first 5 times you did it. It is so incredibly boring and repetitive. So, I stick to the main quests which are also boring. The writing and characters are awful. I am constantly skipping dialogue.

Keep expectations LOW. You will be happier for it.

I’m not susceptible to hype and I was still disappointed.

Baldur's Gate 3 is looking at you from the corner after almost 3 years in early access.

Not just hype but prceing (that requires hype). You spend 100 dollars in a game you rightfully should expect an amazing product. Hell, with my localized pricing I paid over 2x more in Starfield than Baldur's Gate 3.

I was saying that the game will be flop and people attacked me...

I’m loving Starfield and I’d argue it’s Bethesda’s best game. I think a ton of people found their calling in BG3 and now feel the need to compare it to Starfield. That’s like playing Elden Ring, being totally amazed by it and then comparing it to Red Dead Redemption 2. People need to stop saying a game is bad just because they don’t enjoy it. I don’t like Call of Duty but there are millions who do. Heavy fantasy games like BG3 and Witcher 3 are great but sci-fi- cowboy bebop, cyberpunk, alien, gundam wing, starship troopers etc. is my shit! So Starfield is a dream come true. This game has been a labor of love for people like me just like Baldurs Gate was a labor of love for people like you. I don’t understand this society where we deem something horrible just because it doesn’t fit what we enjoy. No one on earth can sink hundreds of hours into a “bad game”.

Starfield is absolute dogshit and BG3 is an absolute masterpiece.@@jiketagg4251

​@@jiketagg4251 Of course people can sink hundreds of hours into a bad game... I mean good grief there are people who speedrun Action 52, for crying out loud. Of course, that doesnt mean there's anything wrong with liking a bad game... I can think of some terrible games that I personally have a good time with. Still terrible, though, even if I kinda like them... I know bad/lazy/broken when I see it. As for Starfield... it's being complained about for good reason. The whole thing is buggy (to an extreme rarely seen), janky, there's literal copy-pasted areas in it (like, seriously, how freaking lazy is that?), half of the game doesnt even have anything in it (in a genre that's known for being CRAMMED with STUFF), lots of blank areas, and it is made in an engine that was outdated YEARS ago, and so on. And it is created by a company that has already proven, on MANY occasions, that they do not care. Heck, I rather suspect that the REAL reason for "we have 1000 planets" isnt because that makes any bloody sense at all... it would have made far more sense to have 20 planets that are utterly DENSE with cool things to do, and then have the another "area" be space, also with a zillion things to do. Cool things that ARENT ever copy-pasted. So that every individual thing is truly uniquely interesting. But "1000 planets" looks better in the advertising and "hype" phase, and to a company like this, that's the IMPORTANT phase. And it also sounds better to shareholders. The reason people are so enamored with BG3 isnt just because it's Baldur's Gate, or because it's an RPG of a specific type, or anything like that. Many have never even played the older BG games... seriously those were a bloody long time ago (to the point where many full-grown adults, playing these games now, were toddlers at the time), and they've got a pretty nasty learning curve, and they didnt exactly age gracefully (and that's putting it mildly). And many have never played an RPG of the type that BG3 fits into. So it aint really about those. Nor is it about the theme, or setting. It's in the spotlight because it shows what's actually possible, when the company behind it REALLY cares. No, seriously, think about it: however much you may like Starfield, imagine what it COULD have been if it had been made by a company that truly valued what they were making in the way Larian does. Or in the way most indies do. Or CD Projekt Red, back when they made The Witcher 3. Or From Software. If you think Starfield is good? That's nice, and I'm glad you're having a good time. But it could have been better. Much better. DRASTICALLY better. Imagine what that would have been like. Wouldnt that have been freakin' awesome? And people would be showing it the same love they're giving to BG3. But the company behind Starfield doesnt care enough to make that happen. That's why BG3 is in the spotlight lately, because its an example of that ACTUALLY HAPPENING (without some sort of catch, like lootboxes, being a part of it). Elden Ring, too. On a side note, I dont play BG3 myself... I simply recognize that sheer level of quality and obvious love when I see it. Heck, I dont really do RPGs, never was my thing (not the ultra-deep sort that BG3 is anyway), but I may pick it up later purely to support developers that put that kind of effort and love into it. Even though it's not my kind of game. That's all I'm sayin'. If you love Starfield... great, please continue having fun. Other people disliking it shouldnt stop that. Just dont be surprised that the old "Bethesda charm" aint so charming to others anymore.

@@jiketagg4251 you like the game for its setting and format, but just try to dive deeper into the actual story telling, something common in literally 90% of video games, that's why people compare games, because inspiration exists, common tropes and themes exist

@@jiketagg4251 And yet most people agree RDR2 and ER are good games. Starfield blows, no way around it. There are so many far more interesting sci-fi games, and Bethesda's other games are better as well. There's nothing Starfield does that is unique or interesting. Play Starsector if you want a good space game. "People don't sink hundreds of hours into a bad game" The entire mobile market would beg to differ.

No, it's a better engine. They painted racing strips on the old engine so it's better faster and better. Change my mind. :P

Ya, and even tried to claim it's bad even if other people like it. Like as if that can't be spun around. The game is good even if you dislike it.

And just like thinking hating it doesn’t mean it’s objectively bad. This game is actually not objectively bad.

good/bad is subjective

​@@jonmartin9732 ahh we found the fan boy

I Like Rogue Warrier does not make it good. That said in most cases you can argue a game is good Starfield is a game you can agrue is good open World better than Open Wolrds like Rage 2 or days gone.

@@John-996 Hope you realize how low you set the bar with those other two titles...🤦

Nah dude it was just written by a bunch of 30 something liberals living in DC that have no teleology or meaning in life so they made Reddit the game.

Lucky I didn't buy it I was tempted from nostalgia 😅

I did the same , I didn’t hate it , I liked something’s but it didn’t catch me like I was hoping .

Agree.

Because that's always been a weakness of games with voiced NPCs? Starfield has a lot of problems, but that's not one of them lol

Keep playing. It gets even more tedious as you progress.

Agree.

enjoy the clicking simulator with some shooting between.. and the awesome experience with the weight system of this game...

@Trikipum lol!!! I love it how I couldn't get rid of the heavy heat sink crates. Try doing the mission but couldn't.

Exactly. Bethesda always offers experiences that uou cant find elsewhere.

​@@merksmovies25I don't know, I found slamming my dick in a car door to be pretty similar (joke)

Some of the criticisms I see around just come off as nitpicks to me given how big the game is. Like they see a flaw and then let it sour the rest of the game for them and so after that point they just continually look for the bad and never focus on the good and then just assume the whole game is bad.

Same, love it - but it does need a lot of work. Maybe they could have released it and developed it for 7 years like Tarkov and everyone would be happy.

C'mon that's just strawmanning. I'm positive a better way of paraphrasing the criticism is "Ocean wide, but it's 2 inches deep" meaning there's a lot in the game, but it's non-immersive. Likely because of jaded /experience. If someone never played Fallout 4/3 or especially New Vegas I would imagine Starfield is a solid 7. If someone more serious into the genre tried another RPG they may rate Starfield lower.@@SilvyReacts

yup

People actually fuckin paid for cyberpunk/battlefield at launch...

@@trasher84 The hype for cyberpunk was out of this world. It quickly joined the 117 unplayed games in Steam library.

@@UCs6ktlulE5BEeb3vBBOu6DQ i cant believe people watched the trailers with a pair of functional eyeballs, there was literally no gameplay just cutscenes, not knowing how holy cyberpunk was to people i did comment there probably was no game yet, i got torn to pieces by hundreds of angry comments until 1 year before release lmao

@@trasher84 Just like the people funding Star Citizen after a decade and then getting killed by doors, ladder, elevators, invisible stuff and getting red in the face when you point out that it feels Bit Connectish

Embarrassed about what? if you didn't love games like KOTOR or the Fallouts, this game is not for you, its literally just that type of game just set in space. If you loved those types of games, then you will love this game. It OK not to like certain types of games you know.... like not every type of game is for every person.

@@3rdtimesacharm84 stop it, everyone knows youve never played KOTOR

@@Lemonpinesol I suppose it was just my imagination that I remember blasting In flames "Trigger" cd (i forget which cd it was on, reroute to remain?) on repeat over and over again while playing it. Guess i just have an overactive imagination.

@@3rdtimesacharm84 seems you do

@@Lemonpinesol probably. It seems about as likely as you even knowing who that is, probably before your time

😂

For me I did love fast travel! It's been in every bethesda game since oblivion and its a great quality of life feature! I didn't love the loading screens, but I did love that they put the photos you take in photo mode on them. And I disagree completely about how it portrays the vastness of space. I literally visited every planet and moon in our own solar system and took in amazing views and took amazing photos from my ship and on the ground. I am awe inspired by this game! But if its not for you that's fine! For me its a 10. Hell the creator of God of War thinks its the best single player game he's ever played!

@@tylerstimsonthat last statement is 10000% just PR. so much of the “this developer loved this game!” is just meaningless PR, i swear half the time they don’t even mean it. so not a worthwhile talking point or evidence piece toward the game being good

​@@tylerstimsonYou gotta be trolling! Lmao

So you think David Jaffe, the creator of God of War is just doing PR for microsoft? I watched his two hour stream talking about it and it really resonated with my own experience playing the game. It's ok if you disagree with us, there isn't an objective way to feel or experience a work of art.@@lemoncarton3004

That is one thing Ive noticed. They moved back towards a Morrowind style of world building instead of the story driven way new Vegas, oblivion, or Skyrim did though I think oblivion was even softer than the other 2. I think that is a reasonable criticism of not wanting to play. The idea that the dialogue is bad though is objectively a bad take by ver. He wants the Skyrim version of information dump plus story driving dialogue where as I don't but this is not a book. It is suppose to be a world that is living and you are just a single person in all of it. The dialogue is not actually a tool for you, it's written as a actual social interaction since in the real world most dialogue is not actually for a random person.

Dude honestly just play the game, the Voice acting is good, the gameplay is fun, the characters, factions, and story are pretty in depth. It gives me all the feelings of fallout or Skyrim in which you can completely break away and live out some side stories or side quests that are well placed and unique. There are obviously some critiques to be made, but I feel like most people who are tearing this game a new one just genuinely don’t like Bethesda games new or old and so their limited experience with the games that the company has made gives them some outrageous expectations.

@@ARTIQZ it's not Skyrim, it's like oblivion, Morrowind, fallout 3. Skyrim was one of the first Bethesda games that put you in the seat as a hero and that is what you are comparing it to. Stop doing that. Skyrim was made for the casual player, this game is not. The learning curve is higher.

@@ARTIQZ bootlicker? Lmao, your first sentence is projecting. How are you gonna cry about me being rude and then do the same with a basic name call when I made actual arguments. Sit down child. I also started on Morrowind and even went back for the game of the year addition just for the add-ons. I did most of that game and the majority of Morrowind is empty space. Much of the north is empty, the center is devoid of most life. You had a few major cities but outside of that Morrowind was empty because the story talked about how things don't really live in Morrowind after whatever it was a demon or whatnot destroyed much of everything from the dwarves to the dark elfs struggling in a barren land. You are out of your mind if you don't think it compares to that. I also talked about how the combat gameplay is significantly improved over fallout or elder scrolls and that's not debatable. Bethesda also said they were going with NASA predictions on life on planets which is around 10% and if you actually looked at the lore you would know there is a deal that a group can only settle 3 systems which also means lot of planets with little to nothing. I'm not a bootlicker, you are a casual player hoping for Skyrim and you got a game that is in line with literally every other Bethesda game and it makes you mad. That's fine, but your read of the game is outright wrong and is clear you have major bias. Also I don't remember starfield holding your hand the same way Skyrim skills worked, or the broken magic system, or the broken crafting system. Bethesda games until about oblivion have never been casual friendly. It does not inherently make it a hardcore game, that is you misunderstanding what I said either that or you making a strawman argument.

@@ARTIQZ the funniest part is you can't even explain why you have those opinions. You just state them like that makes them avoid criticisms. I actually supported with arguments and logic as to why I had my view. Yours is just a child throwing a temper tantrum and then claiming I did not play a game because nothing, because you did not actually make a logical connection as to why I did not. Also condescending? You were the only one name called. That is condescending but hey double standard for people like you are the only standards you have. Perhaps when you want to talk like an adult we can try again. Until then drop the teen angst language, nobody is impressed with your moral outrage based on your emotions and nobody takes it seriously.

Yup. Maybe the worst opening to a game in a long time.

True, mass effect is lightyears ahead when it comes to story. 1 & 2 are incredibly written for most part, damn I miss them

totally....They just cant pull a decent game with modern standars

Just imagine they actually choose to keep this terrible engine

Ol' Todd would've spontaneously combusted if he had touched it. I find it hilarious how you can see his rage boiling just beneath the surface whenever he gets asked about it in an interview 😂

@@Funko777 That's a cute conspiracy that makes no sense.

Fallout Infinite is Howard's first copypasta

Oh pls dont put thoughts inside their heads 😂😂😂😂😂 New vegas, x160 times the details, well optimised, ranger skin for 40$ It just works

if you didn't love games like KOTOR or the Fallouts, this game is not for you, its literally just that type of game just set in space. If you loved those types of games, then you will love this game.

​@@3rdtimesacharm84nah I like those games, but this one is just bland

@@wavestation999 what didn't you like about this game?

@@3rdtimesacharm84 He just told you. This game is just bland. By the numbers, low effort, and soulless. Nothing to truly draw you in. (which is not the same as it not being possible to get drawn in btw.)

@@Sanquinity please elaborate, what specifically did he find bland?

Good thing I sunk 60 bucks into it in 2013.

Do you know what the irony of this comment is? Star Citizen has been in development for 10 years. Starfield took 8 years. You are simultaneously complaining about Starfield's hollow and shallow gameplay after 8 years of development and Star Citizen taking too long while being 10 years in. Do you see the irony?

Yes man. IT feels like a looter shooter with bad mechanics and no soul. If i wanted to click and travel acrosss a galaxy shooting things, i would play mechwarrior 5, which is basically like this but without the stupid dialogues or wasting time cities.. BUt the shooting in that game is actually good and there are literally of hundreds of hand crafted maps to fight.

It's a 3/10 bro :D

​@@Schimml0rdgo back to CoD then

i would say it is a 6.. perhaps a 7 if you are a 12 yo who has played just a couple of games... But for people with decades playing, this is not a 7s game... no way..

7 is so generous. 6 at the very best. 7 after some updates maybe.

​@@NotCharAznable I could definitely see a 6

Yea I'm sure his content really shines for you cry babies hmm?

Seriously. Clickbaity inflammatory bullshit. Is this what games criticism is now? People circlejerking their opinions like they're facts and increasing factionalism and tribalism?

Starfield is a pretty lame game. Cry about it.

@@ThatZenoGuy are you 12?

@@darkstar4214 Cope and seethe. Cry more.

play 200 hourrs the game is so good

Definitely disagree

@@lofi1598 It starts getting much better after 350

The side missions are Starfield fun so many people haven't played the main missions after hundreds of hours of wonderful exploration of what the game has to offer. @@Trikipum

They didn't have any dedicated writers, let alone a team Low Effort ctrl alt v point and click Loading... Fallout 4.5/10 Space exposition Walking/ Hoarding Sim Loading... Failed: Sunk Cost Galaxy Finally, a game Crack Addicts, Hoarders, and Neurodivergents can really sink their scabby little fingers into, with all the charm and character development of a dried out turd. And it only took 8 years and $400 million, the same amount of time and twice the cost of Star Citizen, an MMO with an entire solar system of real planets and 200 real ships to explore them with, and all with no loading screens. Which is only one of two games the indie company is making, and started in 2015 with just 220 staff. A project backed by gamers themselves, and now both titles are moving into Beta. That's the difference between Corporate Astroturfing and Social Democracy. One is accountable, the other just lies with impunity.

@@Uncanny_Mountain Hey, I'm a neurodivergent hoarder and I'm staying away from this cause that's all it looks like it's good for, literally feeding my worst habits. No thanks. How did Bethesda come to be making such mindless slop? It gets worse with every release.

The truth is probably more like this ... The people that make this stuff don't really play it any more than to make sure it "works" a second time. Or to fix someone else's crap. They don't know or care if it makes sense because they are only concerned or knowledgeable about the 15 minutes of gameplay they are working on.

Here's a few leaves of lettuce on a plate the size of a person! Aren't you happy?! What? You like the giant steak someone else gave you?! But their plate is tiny!!

You didnt play the game, yet you state "bland writing, soulless characters and sterile exploration" .... hmmm... somethings odd there.... reminds me of a child saying they hate broccoli but have never tried it.

Glad to see someone actually understands. You are actually not a chosen one in this game and that's a design choice that was done on purpose and actually plays into the main story too. Can't explain it though without spoilers.

skyrim was trash vs Oblivion

@@markilleen4027 I played both, that's untrue.

I was done after fo4

@@federicopettinicchio so have i, extensively there both my favorite games, in your opinion why do you think skyrim is better

@@markilleen4027 I don't think Skyrim is better, I think they both had their charms. Personally of Skyrim I preferred the leveling system, which to this day Is my favorite in any videogame and the draconic theme was very enjoyable for me as well, since I am a sucker for dragons. There were also things I preferred in Oblivion, I played them back to back and I remember having gripes here and there on certain aspects of Skyrim, although right now I can't remember the specifics, it's been too long.

Morrowind is so goated

Late stage Capitalism Shareholder profits trump creativity and new IP, instead we get a rehash of a reboot of an adaption Been that way in Hollywood since CGI made schlock cheaper than ever. This is late stage Capitalism in action

@@Uncanny_Mountain The funniest part is none of this is actually cheaper or makes them more money in the end, maybe for a fiscal year or two, but the costs (in multiple senses of the word) come back to bite them. Refuse to pay writers more to make good stories, force CGI artists to work super overtime to make up for shitty story by filling the screentime with CGI instead of story, know that reception isn't gonna be great so pay out the ass to market it for a big first week viewing. Don't profit. Their efforts to save money always end up costing them in the long run. And everybody loses. Yay late stage capitalism. Edit: And this is the best part of late stage capitalism. Everything gets worse from there.

@@nickv1212 yeah, but that's what we saw when they sent industry offshore to make the most of cheaper labor, or lowering taxes so more rich people like us, or trickle down economics, or Walmart, or the Housing market etc etc etc Without regulations and democratic working conditions we get the Star Wars Prequels _and_ Sequels. CGI killed entertainment

its already only like 8 euros on xbox pass for PC, how much u expecting it to go to? :)

Just play it and make your own opinion

Enjoy it man. I had wayyyyy more fun in my time with no man's sky than I could have even in my dreams on starfield. I should've been the other way around, but that's just how it is

The space flight and combat in NMS is so smooth and effortless

All immersion is broken when you constantly have load screens. I mean even on a planet with a city and you want to go into a shop it is a load screen. What year is this?

That's what I did for Fallout 4 this year. But the Game of the Year Edition is $10 on sale 😅

I highly recommend Starfield tbh, which issues list are you referring to? In terms of bugs theres not many, more like a few minor bugs like sometimes poor collision detection

@@qwertyvypez well, just squeeze your cheeks and hope an important NPC does not decide to turn off gravitiy and jump to the sky...

@@Trikipum I dont really get what you mean by that?

Yes, it is a game that does not respect the player's time at all.. It is full of these time sinkers to just make the game time longer...

@@Trikipum And its crazy at how blind the starfield fanboys are at that. Everyone is saying how great it is but fail to understand the game doesnt even respect you enough to give you a proper intro, or space travel let alone respect your time.

They're buttering Bethesda up because they knew this game was shit before it dropped, they dont care about Starfield and we all knew this IP would die on arrival. The reviewers want early/access to The Elder Scrolls 6, that's the game everyone wants their hands on, this is why you'll see all those personalities start to shill.

The same reviewers gave FO4 9.5/10 scores when that game came out. While not a completely shit game like FO76, FO4 was average at best.

I literally have had the opposite experience

I hope you are aware, they are not using random procedural generation here outside of points of interest and encounters. The landscape is procedurally generated, but not randomly. It's literally the same for every player playing the game if you land in the same spot. As for floating objects, it's pretty rare.. I have only seen it maybe 3 or 4 times in about 70 hours of playing. Any other floating object was intended due to story reasons. I also have never seen a single building floating, so not sure how you managed to come across that, nor have I comes across any being submerged either.

@@SilvyReactsThats the thing about randomness, someone could never experience the issue, and someone could only ever experience it. Its nice that the terrane is set, but if all the things put on it are just picked from a list of, well call them dungeons, then if they are placed in an unsuitable location then things will get weird.

@@Illumian84 just that is not random.. it is simply not tested...

Correct.

I realy hope that Microsoft rips the Fallout IP from Bethesda and give it to Obsidian, both now belong to Microsoft. I hope so hard they do this.