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@@saberiandream316 Lol, yeah he def has the biological advantage of being Jafa. I think they're reaction timing is still human levels tho, just stronger and more sturdy than the strongest bodybuilder human possible. I'd say Ronin can win, but realistically 1 mistake and he's down. Unless if Teal'c is pulling punches away from the impact of his blows cause it's not supposed to be a death match.
Teal'c's being aged some 50 odd years from the last episode of SG-1 _might_ have left the two on equal playing field physically, but Teal's experience would have likely...eventually...allowed him to get the upper hand over Ronan.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt I don't think it's fair to say Ronan is untrained tho. He's literally ex-military. He def received formal training on his planet. After the fall of his planet, he's also had tons of combat experience being a runner. I don't think the more nuanced aspects of hand to hand combat are foreign to him. Such as deception and conserving stamina.
Kratos would still win. Question is will he rip his head off with his bare hands, impale him on a spike, bludgeon him with a big fucking rock, gouge his eyes out of his head, or perhaps throw him into a pool of molten lava.
Don't sell Aquaman short. Aquaman is pretty damn powerful and commands an army that is even more powerful than the Amazon Warriors. He has strength on par with Superman's. Just as durable. Able to "Fly" through the water at speeds that break the sound barrier...underwater. And swim at depths that would crush anything humanity has created. Plus, with his trident, he can control water. The only reason he gets punked around in DC lore. Well, writers do not know how to write him. Plus, if he is dealing with Superman.....Superman has Plot as his superpower. Thus Superman always wins. Yet, up against anyone else. He generally would win...unless it is Marian Manhunter. Manhunter is OP as shit. So if Kratos fights Aquaman on land. Kratos MANY have a chance. Anywhere near water, Kratos is fucked. Even for a Greek Demi-God that has killed the literal Greek God of the Seas. Along with every other Greek God....and most of the Norse Gods, but he hasn't killed the Norse God of the Seas. Which is Rán, by the way.
I said the exact same thing when I saw that. Is it just me, or did Ronan not stand a chance against tealc once they went hand-in-hand? In the last few seconds Ronan was hit so hard he stumbled
@@alfonsogalvan9979 I mean Teal'c is jaffa, the symbiote/tretonin basically gives slightly super human strength. Ronon is just a tough dude. Not exactly an even playing field.
@@lucasharrison224 Bra'tac was a 160 and was considered an old warrior. Teal's is near 140 by this time so he is getting old like a little past middle age. Past his prime but for sure not out.
@@lucasharrison224 Did you see the final SG1 episode (Continuum was the true finale IMO)? Teal'c was with the others in a time loop only he didn't get his age reset like the others, so he's old af now.
So I watched Stargate out of order, Atlantis first then SG1 (watched for Jason Mamoa not knowing I would become a massive Stargate fan) and had no idea who this guy was that was challenging Ronan Dex. Now knowing who Teal’c is, I must say... Ronan Dex, that was most unwise.
It's like when Adam Wests Batman and the Green Hornet ended up fighting, neither actor wanted their character to lose. So it ended with Green hornet, still standing and un beaten, making a tactical retreat when something else went down.
@@isabelleblanchet3694 Yeah I forgot that. He is on tretonin so he is significantly weaker. Wow. He definitely would have beat Ronin in his prime with a Symbiote.
@@zipflik7887 Nah, Paladin usually implies some sort of connection with divinity, and Teal'c would be very unamused with you if you suggested he was serving anything claiming to be of divine nature.
@@Bek359 Teal'c would 100% be Oath of Devotion Paladin. Honesty, Courage, Compassion, Honor, Duty. All things he holds in high regard. Paladins oaths are often tied to divinity, but it's not required. It's about swearing an oath, about pledging yourself to a cause. Like Teal'c pledging allegiance to the Tau'ri and fighting for freedom
Jesus christ, what a great scene. This is probably the last time that a lower budget science-fiction show will be this well done. But atleast it was a good one.
Star Trek is definitely to thank for this. It’s popularity sparked a lot well written shows I feel during this era and as time passed these well written stories stopped becoming common
I remember the writing got really... sexual... wtf happened. Same with Eureka. I was in middle school during that time. I quit watching it because all these affairs ruined the plot.
I met Jason Momoa as well, & Joe Flannigan too. It was back in 2018, so Stargate had long been over. I was still starstruck though & I'm sure I acted pretty cringey lol
@@donnybro6536 That was when Aquaman decided Kratos had to be taken down. Slander about his wife was one thing, but killing Poseidon and talking crap about it was an unabidable blasphemy.
I grew up with Stargate SG1 and Atlantis. I'm so happy that they haven't only written Sci-Fi history, but also found their way into our present time :) And hopefully they also will find their way in the future ✌ But not only them, everyone who was a part of this Show, no matter if main role or just somebody who appeared rarely on screen. I'm so happy that this show was a part of my life growing up
I mean if we only talk about SG-1 and Atlantis, because nothing else exists..... then it was 14 years ago that it ended, which dam that was awhile ago.
No way in hell that’s a draw, Teal’c would have used Ronon’s head as a mop if he really wanted to, this fight was Teal’c testing either his own endurance or that of Ronon.
@@FerretJohn Respectfully I disagree, Ronon and Teal'c are both absolutely excellent fighters, NEARLY even... but I would imagine Teal'c would have been training in just as long of training sessions with Bra'tac before he ever met the SG-1 Team.
@@FerretJohn Ronon looks like he got run over by a mac truck, while Teal'c is clearly just fine. It's pretty evident Ronon was on the wrong end of an hour long ass beating.
So blessed i watched these shows with my dad growing up. Sg-1, Atlantis, battlestar galactica, star trek, and farscape are all shows I watched with my dad and i still continue to watch them!
Agree with a lot of the observations above. I would offer that throughout the fight, Teal’c is very poised & in control of his technique. Whereas Ronan’s anger is in control of him. Disciple typically trumps passion is most confrontations, real or fictional.
Indeed (hehe irony intended). Tealc is a very disciplined and veteran warrior far older than anyone in the room. Whereas Ronan is a young and passionate fighter more prone to using brute attacks to try and batter an opponent down.
Teal'c became much weaker after the loss of his symbiote, but superior skill, greater experience, and a calm mind allowed him to maintain a clear advantage none the less.
Teal'c has more control and didn't really want to hurt him, deep down. He just found Ronon irritating. While Ronon has a lot of pent-up aggression, and he's reckless.
Of course he did. He was fairly certain that it would take time and eventually someone like Carter would call it. Hence he organized the bet with Chuck. And knowing it would most likely be a draw he placed his bet accordingly.
I can never forget the episodes with these two, I already considered them to be monuments at the time, they are legendary now. I want to see them again together in a TV show.
what everyone seems to forget is that teal'c here was around 167-169 years old...courtesy of season 10 episode 20 - Unending, while ronan is what? mid 20's - early thirties...goes to show, what a total bad ass teal'c is...
One of the coolest things I have done was unwittingly go to the premiere of Ark of Truth with the cast on an aircraft Carrier for San Diego comic con (they told you if you like Stargate go to the carrier and no details were given). The entire cast was extremely cool and sat with random people in the bleachers as the movie was projected on the bridge. Carter was only like 15 feet away from me, and the entire cast stuck around to take pictures with fans after the movie.
Teal'c was the clear winner and here's why. At 3:12 you see Joe behind Teal'c . Then at 3:14 Teal'c grabs Ronon's arm and delivers a blow. From 3:15 to 3:16 the camera pans to Joes face. BUT you can hear 4 punches being delivered. Finally at 3:17 you now see Joe behind Ronon's back with Teal'c still holding Ronon's arm as he delivers the final blow....So When Teal'c intercepted Ronon's arm he delivered 6 blows to him while spinning him a 360 degrees controlling his arm the whole time, before Teal'c decided to let him go. Because Carter stepped in. Keep in mind Teal'c is 150+ years at this time. This scene was basically showing how weak Ronon was compared to an elderly Teal'c. If he didn't age 50 years in the final episode, the fight would've been as one sided as him fighting K' Tano before plot armor came to save him
*I love how Ronan is too dumb, emotional, etc to realize that Teal'c is trying to help him pass his test. Ronan cannot handle Teal'c strength level, intelligence level, emotional stability, stamina level, insight, etc, but obviously Ronan's pride will not allow his to accept those fact, therefore Ronan will end up getting himself killed challenging Teal'c.*
Another thing I noticed is that either Ronon decided to go with a half-length stick from the start (unlikely) or Teal'c had already broken Ronon's off-screen and was just trying to teach him a lesson. The fist-fight in general also seemed kind of one-sided as Ronon started that part of the fight with what was almost a sucker-punch.
I caught that to, Euro's and dollars. But why would anyone on Atlantis have physical currency on them? Did a KFC and Pizza Hut go in once Daedalus starting making its supply runs?
Man I remember when this came out the hype was REAL! Like holy crap who is gonna win the fight?! The team up at the end - epic episode that was a long time coming and a great episode overall. Qapla! Wait no . . . Indeed!
Ronon's young, reckless hothead, has anger issues, Teal'c is a combat veteran, battle-hardened warrior, a professional soldier, it's putting a not even a rookie against Solid Snake or John-117 armed with only a revolver, single action army
*Ronan cannot handle Teal'c strength, intelligence, emotional stability, stamina insight, etc, but obviously Ronan's pride will not allow his to accept those fact, therefore Ronan will end up getting himself killed challenging Teal'c.*
the fight was actually already over when he lost his nerves and pointed that gun at me. psychological warfare. Then the fight. just to let him know that even after giving all what he got, he lost. well actually, destroying all of his confidence would have caused more harm for the operation, so a fight that comes out as a tie, was better for him. after all he was a good fighter. after I lost my Symbiot, I experienced that exact loss of confidence, I tried not to let this happen to Ronan just to have won this fight. next step: teaching him meditation to be able to keep a clear mind, free from anger and questionable decisions. the whole situation was a lesson, teaching Ronan to be a better soldier.
@@rakim6466 yeah but this is post symbiote tretonin tealc plus the age jump in unending. Tealc from mid season sg1 would fuck him up more easily. My money's still on tealc but it's now close enough to be ambiguous
Dunno about that. First of all, Teal'c is old; 30 years older than Bra'tac was when he got tripped by O'Neill first time they meet where he insinuates that Jaffa indeed get weaker by age. Second; Ronan beat a Colonel Caldwell when he was taken as host of a Goa'uld and to my knowledge, I never saw Teal'c beat a Goa'uld in a fist fight. Then again, Goa'ulds rarely fought with their fist so maybe they were bad melee fighters etc.
Dude, the trippiest thing ever is realizing you've become older than the actors were when they played characters you loved when groing up. I'm 26 now amd Jason Momoa was 25 when he started in Atlantis... I started watching this show when I was like, 13 years old...
*Listen Ronon Dex is absolutely not slightly ready for & can't handle the type & level of ass whooping Teal'c will give him, therefore Ronon better stop acting like he can defeat Teal'c before Teal'c kill him.*
If anyone else would tried to end but Carter, it probably wouldn't of ended. Teal'c has much respect for her and the og team. Plus she blow up a sun... so I wouldn't mess with her 😂
@@s-094cam5 definitely.... Killing the gods that the false gods were impersonating He would be seeing it as the last killing blow to any possible goa'uld in hiding
Teal’c had Ronin by the balls. He literally showed what a bad mannered Ill tempered half whit warrior Ronin was in SA. He was the useful angry idiot in SA and Rodney McKay was the useful soft idiot. I have so much respect for Teal’c as a character he grew so much from season 1 to the final season of SG1 and I’d love to see more of Christopher Judge in movies. Ronin was close to the same character he was in beginning and at the end of SA although he done a little bit of growing but no where near Teal’c journey and growth and it’s easy to see Teal’c had his measure almost immediately.
I really wish this show did not get cancelled. This show just reached it's peak the year it got cancelled. I mean, it won so many People's Choice awards, the writing was so good. Why was this show cancelled?
@@daddystu7046 Not to mention that she knew Teal’c would never lay a hand on her and if Ronon ever did, Teal’c would have taken off the kiddie gloves and turned his lights out in a split second.
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