Shield shunt is godsend for AI. They know when to vent but they constantly get too optimistic with their shields and suffer overload after overload. This neatly sidesteps the issue - you can't get overloaded just from firing your guns, you just lose fire rate as you hit flux cap.
I normally run a wolfpack tactics style build, and when I got the Persean League blockade notification my first thought was "ah what can it be, 2 fleets?". Then I got the 22 fleets notification and thought "ah they're probably mainly fast pickets". Then I camped the ring system around Kazeron to engage far forward, only to see an S-modded fleet and like 10 fleets I stood no chance against even without support. It was a lengthy guerrilla war. Also I learned Persean League fighter & Gazer spam is like the ultimate frigate build counter.
fighters beat frigates, ultimately that's their greatest use and is THE reason to field them they can deal good damage to battleships too, but in their case they have more effective PD systems which can cripple fighter formations
Invictus casualy asserting low tech superiority. Legion and onslaught are tough but they lack speed and firepower to finish off oponents and now with invictus acting as instant-delete button they realy rule the stars.
And at 3:46... and 3:59... and 4:45... Love how that inelegant brick of a ship is so wide it can comfortably hit two ships at once. Low-tech at its finest.
this is interesting, i'm still learning starsector, so definitely not tried anything like this. So far i've been enjoying midline ships the most but still struggling to really learn what to fit to the big cruisers & battleships with, but tons of fun might give this strategy a try on my next playthrough
Midline offers a really enjoyable balance between low and hi tech, but I think in general it sacrifices a considerable amount of what makes both good. In my opinion, which admittedly is just an opinion, it typically lacks enough to actually beat either without a considerable amount of skill. As far as fitting guns and whatnot, the biggest and most important thing to consider is how you pilot vs how an AI pilots. You hardly ever want to give the AI a ship that can make more flux than it can dissipate from shooting. They can and will overload themselves EVERY TIME. (not every time but it feels like it). Whereas your own ship can have much, much more flux heavy things and you can manage it properly. Well, unless you use 4 shield shunted onslaughts... then you don't have to worry about the AI overloading themselves :p Hope my random intrusion was helpful and didn't come off as mean or conceited or anything. if/when you start modding, there's so much crazy shit out there.
@@zarosthealmighty371 I do a tiny bit of modding but I mostly just stick to nexerelium mod or however it's spelled just for the Qol stuff, but I have learned that I love the mjolner cannons, those things are awesome. I also for the first time got a legion in my fleet last night and I think I'm in love with that thing, it can take so much punishment while my destroyers and cruisers go around the flanks and clean house, so I really want to try an onslaught now :) also so far my favorite cruiser is an Eagle I've heard it's not good but so far it works really well for me so idk
@@TheTemplarnightEagle is a really good cruiser. It wont destroy anything in the forseeable future but its really good at stalling the enemy. Very fast, very good shielding means it can just sit there and make the enemy ai cry. Personally i hate midline with a passion, bc they are jack of all trades, that means they suck at everything basically. There are very good ships there ofc. Eagle, champion, player pegasus, hammerhead, sunder. But to be fair all of these good ships are good at one single thing. Thats why they are good. I dont personally like the do all but badly ships High and low tech on the other hand is hilarious fun. High tech rewards a good pilot while lowtech just sits there and outlasts anything. I include some interesting ships for you. Dakkatech: lp brawler, the goddamn eradicator. Oh eradicator my beloved. As the name suggests its very good at eradicating stuff. But the pirate version is trash, you really want the non p version bc accelerated ammo feeder goes brr. Probably the strongest cruiser rn. Fast, good armor, insane firepower and the unlimited power of medium ballistics, legion is good preferrably XIV. And the classic, The Old Man, the XIV Onslaught. Its pretty much impossible to outdakka that thing. It has 2 things, firepower and survivability. And finally the peaktech: Tempest,omen, hyperion, fury, aurora, harbi, astral, im not a big paragon respecter bc its boring as hell, but you cant deny that thing is effective. And my personal favorite ship in the entire game. The Frickin Odyssey. The true battlecruiser. Its like midline but actually good. 2 large energy slots with wide arcs and the flux stats to back them up. Its faster than some cruisers, has insanely good shielding, 2 fighters bc why the hell not. Once you find a good odyssey fit you dont want to pilot anything else. It also brings utility since you get the biggest vision range in the game for basically free if you build in the advanced sensors, wich btw dont count as built in s mods. It outruns everything that it cant outgun, and it outguns everything you cant outrun. Doesnt cost a fortune to move around. Its basically an aurora on anabolic steroids. Couple it with some cruisers that can hold the line and flank, nothing can catch you that you cant evaporate in a second. Once you have an ody you can sell all the conquests you have for some reason. The only thing that comes close to that ship in the causing mayhem category is something [VERY REDACTED] you can find somewhere in the sector. If you already knoe what it is, its a big mean looking capital that spams purple orbs for comedic relief
Persean Fleet Doctrine: Midline is bestline! I love defeating in Detail and using EMP and stand off DEM weapons to cripple the enemy before leveraging my superior mobility to outflank and out range my opponent! Hegemony Fleet Doctrine: Strap as much armour onto the ship, forget the shields just fire all guns all at once constantly oouuuhhhggggg
Ah, you say mods seems to beat such setup? Yeah, some mods it seems yes, because of that i do not play mods, just change for other better mod ships, weapons if they are. For such impudent mods I have paragons in my stash. :D
Invictus is new. It's expensive but it's as tough as 3 onslaughts. No shield onslaughts have their weakness but well built and supported, all that saved energy is directed at your enemy in the form of endless firepower. I do consider a proper officer mandatory to make it shine at it's best.
This video is amazing and exactly what i wanted to see. These Persean league monkeys seem to think they can harass others to join them and pay a hefty tax, but no longer. Also would love to see your invictus ships build as i cant figure out how you can make the cannons fire at the same time.
The colony crisis faction raids are godsend. Back then i had to go to war with them to get infinite supply of their ships. Now they come to me. I can salvage everything bc my colony is like 10 meters away. Free money. I just have 3 separate fleets in storage to counter every style of fleet they throw at me. Big stupid low tier fleets? 2 words. Plasma Cannon. Big stupid low tech frigate junk? 2 different words. Tachyon Lance. I have a safety override lp eradicator with nothing but reapers and thumpers that i solely deploy to solo an invictus. Park behind it, launch every torp to strip armor, press F, gone. Against high tech i tend to just deploy my omega odyssey. Watch the femboys cry when i drop 6k kinetic dps on them. Midline is the hardest one tbh bc the constant and annoying missile spam. How do you counter spam? Wasp drones. Ungodly amount of wasp drones. They have pd, no crew so they can freely blow up. If you have more than 10 fps you dont have enough wasps. I either go with full legions if i happen to have enough, or just a random junk cruiser fleet with the makeshift hangars. Every fighter slot gets 6 wasps and they barely cost any points. Defensive targeting hullmod if i want to be extra annoying. And if poo hits the fan you can always hide behind your station. Just avoid midline stations, they blow. The other options are about the same. But high tech needs good weapon blueprints. Low tech doesnt care if your only large ballistic is the hellbore. It has insane firepower, only low tech big boys and high tech can reliably survive. But high tech ships with ai fits usually lack the range and the anti armor firepower to deal with the station. So unless the ai parks 600 auroras ontop or 10 onslaughts you are more than fine. And thankfully station ai likes to focus fire so the enemy cant really retreat out of its insane range. But the high tech station once you have tachyon lance, plasma and that burst emp medium i always forget how its called coupled with an alpha core, it becomes a league of its own. I saw that thing solo entire double and triple stack of smodded invasion fleets. Deploying anything smaller than a cruiser is a suicide against the tachyon spam, while the big guys enjoy some plasma for breakfast. And it has insane shielding, so its not so prone to be worn down in constant suicide yolo
i am a totally confused beginner. How can your onslaughts not take any damage while having no shields? And is that Invictus new in the game or from a mod?
@@Fierann2 there is no safety overrides, and it can not be built in. To have third build in mod there is a skill: Best of the Best, take a look for it.
@@gabrielh3900 hardened shileds, shild conversion front, stabilize shields, arm em with light mortar, decent bait target. Story mod shield conversion and stabilized shield, nothing short of Retribution volley can destroy it.
this type of defeat should have consequences on the faction, it certainly has on players. who knows, as things get more desperate they may start playing dirtier and dirtier, maybe until there isn't that much difference between how the pathers fight and how try-tachion fights.
@@SSfiless well, he game is trying to simulate a live sector, its not about simulating the cost of each ship for a giga complex system, it could be simplified in many ways to fit the game.
@@yyeetmax2849 By simplifying you are unlikely to get the desired result. I can't even use any game as an example. X4 maybe, but also with some edits, the bots there are just as stupid, so it’s suitable as a comparison.
I'm new to Starsector and have clapped Invictus' rather easily. True, I had a Paragon, but still it wasn't an optimized build since I knew jack shit on what to put on it besides tachyon lances, and didn't build on it using a guide.
Not trying to piss in your cheerios, but this does not look balanced at all. Do you derive satisfaction from removing any chance 95% of ships have to contribute to a fight against that monster ship? Evidence suggests you must, but perhaps it's too good in terms of content.
it's very slow and VERY resource and crew heavy fleet. So, it's balancing through economy, not through military strength. I fear it only could be used as some type of homeworld protection detachment, but not as the main sector cleaning tool...
@@DeepProbe just with three tugs and hyperfield omtimization you have cap speed 20 in hyper, and 17 in system without nav buoy, so speed it is not a problem. Aslo crew payment it is not a problem, now i hove 150kk, colony income is 600k, one bounty is 300-800k, i do not understand if someone spek about such things. So it can be used like main total sector cleaning tool, with remnants it is not very well, but hunting by one ordo it is ok, three ordos seems to be a problem. :D
@@SSfiless Oh... That looks like much later stage of the game than I (personally) finding "too boring to continue" and starting a new run... (but, frankly, I should get that clue when spotted 3 of these 14th Onslaughts in one fleet...)
