This video addresses the two most common questions I encounter regarding magazines: How many do I need and Can I leave them loaded down without wearing out the spring?
I remember seeing this video years ago thinking, "Damn that's a shit ton of magazines." Fast forward to now and I've probably got as many if not more. Considering the gun,ammo, magazine panic buying going on right now, I'll have to say I have no regrets because I'm not out here right now paying over inflated prices for them. Thanks for the good advice back then. You saved me some money.
Until you have to leave half of it behind because you can’t take it all. Needs to burry a lot of them in a catch location in a sealed container out in the wilderness somewhere
You can only carry and take so many at a time. Your better off burrying catches out in the wilderness in various locations where you can actually get to them and just have a small catch for each family member to “bug out” sort to speak if you ever do need to leave. Because your not taking all that ammo with you no matter how bad you want to not how hard you tired and now you’ve lost thousand in ammo that you can’t carry even if you family takes armfuls each. Neeed to load a lot of them in ammo cans at least. The safe is only good to store weapons not the ammo itself
Unfortunately not everyone has enough money to drop on 100 mags. Luckily for me though I have enough clips already and I'm not worried about them getting worn out.
I use clips not magazines and I know the difference good sir. Which is why I'm not worried about them getting worn out...you can just bend a clip tight again. But thank you for insulting my intelligence
I assumed the discussion was about magazines in general. After all every magazine would be subject to the potential problems mentioned in the video. I was saying that I am lucky that I don't have to worry about my springs...on account of them being non-existent.
Don't under stand why people care about how many loaded mags this guy has. Maybe if shit went bad he could hand out mags and guns to his loved ones to protect them selfs. Rather be prepared and not need it then need it and not have it. Very nice collection man keep it up!
+Jonathan Shoemaker Jealousy is what it is. Just like those communists who complain about people "hoarding" ammunition. Hey, it's a free market and they were free to stock up too when the buying was good. This isn't a hive mindset where we have to share our ammo purchases equally. And what they call "gouging" is capitalistic supply and demand. Demand goes up, supply goes down, prices increase. And too all those complaining about the rising cost of ammo, lets be frank: EVERYTHING is doubling in price due to minimum wage increases and budgetless federal spending. We have been living in a bubble for some time. It's really a wonder it didn't start pop until just recently. The sooner we get Trump in the better. Sometimes I think we have far too many enemies on our "side" than we would like to think. A lot of people people are calling themselves conservative and "constitutional" and "capitalistic" when most don't have the slightest clue what it means.
+Dave Smith Its not Jealousy, its a ridiculous video! Maybe your jealous seeing how thats the first thing out of your mouth! This video had nothing whatsoever to do with facts about mag springs, nothing whatsoever to do about magazine storage or anything! Had he labeled this "Showing off all my Mags" then nobody would care, that would make sense, unfortunately he didn't so it stands to reason he's gonna get ripped! If I lable a video "How to shoot accurately" & then show off 75 rifles I own & never mention shooting accurately I would expect Negative feedback! Get a clue
Spring fatigue with modern steel comes from compression and decompression, you know, loading and unloading. No fatigue is endured under constant compression. You can keep your mags loaded for extended periods of time if you need to.
I purchased a G.I. WWII pistol belt from a Grandma at a yard sale it had a 2 mag pouch with 2 loaded mags in it the cases were dated 1940 and were loaded with 6 rounds each I used these mags in my colt 911 with new ammo and they worked just fine there wasn't alot of push on the last round but it worked. I sold them and the old ammo as collectables at a gun shop just thought I let you guys know.
i agree. i say 15 magazines as a minimum. as a standard minimum. i have never had any issues with any of my ak mags weakening the springs. ive left 5 of them loaded for 4 years without touching them, and when i took them out and fired them..... not one issue. ive used mostly com-block mags, but some of the more modern plastic mags, ive still not had any issues.
My Springfield Armory XD 45 OEM Mag Springs Lasted 9 or 10 years then stopped reliably feeding JHP SD rounds, FMJ still feed fine. I replaced the springs and then they worked fine again. So yes, long term storage does reduce spring strength and reliability. Just be aware of it. My AR Mags I store half of them loaded, other half unloaded and every year I unload the loaded ones and load the ones that had been unloaded. Not at all scientific, but its worked perfectly for me.
Good video i agree 10 magazines per rifle. I don't leave my magazines loaded mainly becouse i don't need the extra space in my safe, but when i do i will probably load them up to save space and pmags are the best mags to have.
Springs aren’t generally a problem or something you have to worry about unless they have extreme extended and constant use. I’ve see 20-30 year old USGI mags with original springs that are still perfectly usable.
For the most part, police officers keep their pistol mags fully loaded 24/7 for decades without magazine problems, and their rifle mags 2 rounds short without problems in them either. Today's magazines are much better quality springs than yester-years. That being said, I do keep my AR mags 2 rounds short, but that is to help prevent feed issues caused by high tension magazines in a fully loaded magazine. I've had plenty of feed issues with full 30 round AR mags, but never had a feed issue with 28 rounds. The only pistol I've seen have an issue with full magazines was a bunch of DRMO to LE hand-me-down refurbished 1911's (Remington, Springfield, Colt, and Singer). The name of the game is carry a reliable gun, do whatever it takes to keep that gun reliable in all aspects, and know how many rounds you've got left. When in doubt, do a mag swap.
just to chime in about loaded mags as far as a rem 870 12 ga. is concerned. I had my shotgun loaded for many months, 6+1, full capacity. When I first got the gun and I'd open the mag cap and the spring would come flying out. After months of keeping it loaded I opened the mag cap and nothing...the spring had sprung. I replaced with a wolff heavy duty spring and only load the gun at night and unload in the morning, I now have a 9mm handgun with me at all times. Just my experience. I recently purchased my first ar 15 and for now am keeping 25 rounds in my mags instead of topping them off with 30.
I am still buying parts and supplies for my AR-15 but so far I have four -30 round P mags, and one -45 round Pro mag. Right now looking to save for more parts for my ar-15 and more ammo, and I also want to buy a full length ar-15 with a fixed stock, I like that classic look.
A metallurgist in a great gun mag once explained that it DOES NOT fatigue metal to leave these loaded. It’ s the number of compressions and decompressions that will eventually fatigue the spring metal, and even that will take a LONG TIME. ✌🏻 Don ‘t sweat it.
Agreed..... What good will all those weapons and mags do for you, if you have to take the time to load several of them when you need them right away? What if you have to leave quickly, or what if you actually have to employ your weapon quickly?
I have 20 round mag that's about 20 years old and has been loaded longer than it hasn't. I fire and reload it about once a year and never had an issue. Not one single problem. I would be more concerned with people who don't know to clean them. I also keep my 30 round mags down to 20 just in case of weak springs. I can always top them off with stripper clips
Yea man, I like your video. I have a two 308s on is a Socom 2 and the other is my Mossberg MVP long range rifle. For them two I have 18 magazine and I feel I need more. So I'm going to buy more. How many you think I should get. Plus I'm planning on buying a AR-15 or AR-10 in 308. What is a good number of magazine should I get for them? Just asking you opinion? One more question. How much ammo should a person have for this SHTF?
how long can rounds be stored with out that silica? and does it depend on weather? like winter states is that where you would need it because of the powered being clustered together compared to states like California, Arizona ,florida etc?
Also buy riffle which can share the same mags , ar 15, tavor , sig 556 , ak pistol m 85 etc , if u don't want to load the mag at least load on 10 rounds strip that also speed up if u need them quick
What caliber and capacity mags? Thats amazing. I first started thinking about this 2 years ago, if I would have loaded up mags then, Id be 8 years closer to ten years and could see how rifle and handgun mags are affected. I wonder if Magpul adds the feed lip clips/covers, if the springs push the rounds into the feed lips and deform them? Steel is probably stronger but who knows over 15-20 years
I've had mags loaded for over 10 years and brought them to the range. They worked fine. Steel case ammo too. Loaded them back up a few times the same day and they work the same. I have a few more that I've had loaded for almost 12 years. I'll let you know in 8 years if they still work.
Brother, I concede! you are a BOSS! I'm working my arse off to get 1/10th of the armament you have, If it goes down let me fight along side you! LOLGreat vid.
Storing loaded mags wont hurt them. Repeatedly shooting with those mags will eventually weaken the spring. I keep mag replacement parts in case i need to repair mags during anything.
just imagine what it would look like if the cops displayed his "arsenal" in front of news cameras, they can make what will fit in a safe look like enough weapons for a small squad of soldiers :P
Yes you can load a magazine quickly when you are in a hurry. Ever hear of a speed loader? Especially if you have an AR...use the speed loader and have your rounds on a stripper clip, attach the speed loader to your mag, insert the rounds on the stripper clip and push down on the rounds, and just like that you have loaded 10 rounds in less than 1 sec....keeping your mags loaded for a long period of time does wear the spring out. have replacement springs and followers and base plates available, some people have used a graphite lube to help the spring move smoothly, I don't know if it works or not just throwing it out there.
man those zombies must gonna be thick to ammo up like that. Seriously though, Nothing wrong with being stocked up and having a plan if everything goes to hell. Nice stash you got there.
Do you really think 10-15 magazines will last a lifetime? I live in Colorado and I am unsure if purchasing magazine springs would be illegal as well (if the bill becomes law).
It is a physical fact that spring steel left under tension will, over time fatigue. How much time will be the debate. I would not doubt that a loaded mag would retain its effective tension for years. So in effect, you could feel confident saying loaded mags don't hurt. But to leave those mag springs compressed for say, 10 years, you may see some loss in the springs original tension. And honestly, it would probably take more like 15 years to fatigue the spring to a point it needed to be replaced.
What tactical vest do you use to carry mags with if "something happens" ? All those magazines in a safe are useless if you cant carry more than two at a time eh !
