I've had this happen to me in real life. Someone asked a question about my childhood and I responded factually, not harping on or anything just simply stating I was raised by a single father and someone else was like "this is depressing, let's change the topic". People are wild af. I guess next time I'll lie and say my parents never got divorced lmaooooo. Oh and the awkward silence that followed was so fun
It is a big bucket of bummer, but he should of also followed with sorry for your lose, hope you get through things. Or something then it's done. No need for a melt down.
@@XerNation it's a simple question, personally I would of just replied good, great, ok, not so great ect. Then asked if to elaborate then I'd go into detail but that's just the culture here, we use phrases like "how's it going" or "where yah been" as a greeting lol but still all she said was her mum died then he flipped out over negative energy. Like chill have a snickers or something 😆
Life is a big bucket of bummer, this guy can't hang at all. I like to think maybe he's also been through something similar and he wants to push it away but that was pretty horrendous to have someone open up to him and he just flash out and go ape shit.
SAME. and im sorry for your loss. i lost my dad last year and its a horrible thing to go through. i cant imagine telling someone i know this and they get mad i told them. disgraceful.
@@tot8037I’m really sorry for both you’re losses their in a better place now, I pray that you and you’re family’s are doing well and that you get through these tough times, Rip to both you’re relatives ❤🕊
@@jtb357no he doesn’t, but maybe he would have asked to look better, cause all these scum care about is money and clout, so they want to act like they care
Exactly. This whole shit would be so much easier to "gloss over" by 30 seconds of "Oh man, that sucks. I am glad to see you back, and I hope we can bring some smiles to your day" or a similar overused kindness. Platitude? Maybe, but a hell of a lot better than this mess.
exactly wtf lmao what a tool . man these fuckin influencers streamers whatever are just usually terrible humans like most celebs (which I know from experience from being around them so it's not like just hating lol) it's wild like you wouldn't be shit without the ppl you treat like garbage. man if that girl actually needs to talk I'll talk shit my dad died so I get it. just wild the entitlement and douchebaggary of some of these ppl
100% this. If he had simply answered "oh man, sorry to hear that" and then just moved on, that would have been ok. But making such a deal about this and showing absolutely no understanding/empathy/concern will probably speedrun the end of this streamer's career.
@@goingslowlynowhere I mean, most people actually care when someone's parent dies. That's like top ten worst things that happen to a normal person. This dude just doesn't care
I had a friend do this to me but he said “dude i aint your therapist” which hit hard cause i thought he was a friend since then i just roll with family no friends just other people
@@asant90 I mean believe it or not he actually is trying to look out for you if you're telling him so much that that's the response he gives then you probably need a therapist doesn't sound like he said it the right way but you gotta talk to a therapist if you're trauma dumping that much
@@MrNegima10 Would it sound odd of he said he can't afford a therapist. Or even worse alot of people don't like talking to them cause alot of therapists are cold or even condescending. Usually if u talk about ur feelings u wanna talk to people ur comfortable with.
THAT would be fucking poetic !!! Then chat could roast his ass about bringing down vibe and ask stupid questions like " why you streaming if all you gonna do is sulk on stream bro ? " IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO BE CANCELED, ITS THIS DOUCHE!
she obviously didnt think she was wrong. she made a sappy tweet trying to garner even more sympathy than she would have. think about it, she didnt think she was in the wrong enough to not tweet it. you must be new to twitch drama. im not saying hes in the right, im saying that she definitely knew what she was doing by tweeting that
@@victoria-cp4ui she wouldnt have put "i know im in the wrong" on a PUBLIC tweet literally linking the clip where she was supposedly "in the wrong" if she actually thought she was in the wrong. i know how twitter works, not everything should be taken at face value
She wasn’t trauma-dumping. She just answered his question, and all he had to do was give a small gesture of sympathy and move on. It's not that hard to be like, “sorry for your loss, glad you're here!”
People who use the term “trauma dumping” should never expect anyone to open up to them. Because opening up and talking will just always be labeled as trauma dumping
he could have just said, "I'm sorry, hope you're doing well" and get on with the convo. instead, he rolled a 1 on charisma check and chose the worst dialogue he could have said.
Goes to show he doesn't care about his viewers....even sending his followers to attack her on Twitter as they call her a clout chaser when she did nothing wrong even mocking her for being a little chunky...yeah that streamer is THAT pathetic!
99% of streamers don't give a single shit about the people watching. Its all about the money that the people watching bring. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just stupid and can't understand people on the internet.
@@DeltaDrifter2201 I literally stopped watching a streamer because he stopped playing games his audience asked him to play (after asking what they wanted him to play) because those games hurt his viewer growth. Like, this is your audience dude...
Losing a parent is one of the worst sorrows to go through in life. The fact he shamed her for giving a reasonable response on an awful experience is stupendously stupid.
EXACTLY! He made her situation seem less than it actually was, devaluing a human life that was precious to her. Truly disgusting stuff. Hope his career falls into a pit.
@@dudeimgeorge how is it attention shit if the streamer asked that person? The streamer could've just said something like " oh I'm so sorry for the loss " period end of story. 🤦♂️
"Trauma dumping" has been a phrase so abused by streamers/youtubers as an excuse not to give an one-line sympathy because streamers/youtubers are too mentally weak to sympathize and handle someone else's tramau.
@@jess17376 so you think the job of a therapist is just listen to a few sentences and give one line response? Do you think people pay therapist just to hear “oh, I am sorry for you”? If so, I guess chat is “treating the streamer as a therapist”. If not, think though what is the job of a therapist before dumping the standard phrase “treat sb like a therapist”.
The fact that these terms even exist is just so creepy. People are WAY too obsessed with the internet and people doing shit on cameras. People gaining fame and clout from playing shit in front of a camera 😂
It's literally easier to have no empathy and say just: "oh I'm sorry for your loss." In like 2 seconds then forget about it. He did literally everything wrong.
If I lose a parent, I wouldn't break it in front of thousands of people who have nothing to do with my personal life. I would keep it to myself and my close friends and relatives. Penguinz and others like him should stop virtue signalling on issues like this.
@@TheKomentor it's cool you'd choose not to talk about it. It's cool that she decided too talk about it when asked. Both of those are fine. His response wasn't
@@TheKomentor well not everyone thinks or act slike you, nor should they. He asked her a question and she replied honestly and bluntly. Seriously, not you also blaming the victim when all that man had to say was "damn that sucks, sorry for your loss" and move on.
What’s so insane is that instead of feeling bad for her, he feels bad for HIMSELF for having to hear about it. You think it’s hard to hear? Imagine how hard it is to go through something like that
As someone who had a parent pass away, this type of thing is traumatizing. A few months after my mom passed, someone (a customer) shamed me at work in a somewhat similar way, and I had to take my lunch break early, I was sobbing. I'm glad the majority of the internet is on her side, and I hope that she makes it through this whole ordeal okay.
ngl ive had parent pass away and never would i trauma dump it onto a streamer 1 because its TMI and 2 because its literally a suicide pass where all the streamer can do is make a pitiful comment about you or everyone gets mad or they ignore you, but this guy handled the drama so poorly its insane. could have just said "i dont care i dont like negative donos" and anyone online getting mad is just being soy because he didnt wanna listen to trauma dump donos
He doesn't want to bum the stream out, but will absolutely make an apology video live on stream, and then spend the entire next day talking about it again.
As a suicidal person I can tell you that I felt like such a bother to people that I would say “I’m good” like he is telling people to say. So when I first attempted people were SHOOK to their core cause they had no idea. If I just talked about it in the first place I probably wouldn’t have gotten to that point. It takes two seconds for a person to feel heard with just a simple “I’m sorry I hope you feel better”
I know exactly how you feel. For most of my life I thought my suicidal ideation and mental illnesses were stupid, exaggerated, and a burden to other people. Little did I know that telling someone about it after years of letting it fester would leave me in the hospital 4 different times... Unempathetic, heartless, selfish, horrible people like him are the reason people are scared to speak out. We don't deserve that. ❤❤
@@Lynnie2005remember suicide doesn’t end the pain in moves it, honestly I’ve been there 2005 I’m guessing you’re very young, I strongly believe in a few years you will look back on this with a fondness ( i know that’s not a word) but you will look back on it almost proud you got through it trust me on this life is beautiful keep going keep churning the days out work on yourself build deeper connections with those around you, you’ve got this I know you have.
The man who raised me, not my blood, gave me one really great piece of advice. If you aren't willing to hear any possible answer for a question you're asking, don't ask it
“Where you been?” “Honestly, my mom died and it’s been hard.” “Oh shoot man, I’m sorry to hear that. Well, we’re glad to have you back, hopefully we can raise those spirits with this stream! Let’s go guys, Ws in the chat for DirtyKirby for pushing through while I get through this menu screen.” That’s how easy it could’ve been.
I was gonna say something exactly like this and I completely agree. This is how he should have handled it, especially that person being a regular in his community is wild
She definitely wasn’t “trauma dumping.” If she’s a regular in a 55 average viewer stream then I can absolutely see why she’d feel comfortable enough to say, “my mom died” instead of “something horrible happened!” The fact that this guy was so angry at her and has “strict rules” against sharing bad news is very telling.
@@joer2237 Any successful streamer would've been able to avoid drama here, easily. The fact that he's gone so far off the rails for being told he's wrong just shows he's not cut out to be one anyways.
@@joer2237 Is it really attention seeking if HE asked? Like she just said exactly what happened. If you ask someone where they been/how they are don't always expect good news. If you only want good news then don't ask. He coulda said "oh hey nice to see you again we missed you" instead of asking where she'd been.
all he had to say was “i’m sorry that happened, my condolences. i hope you and your family will be comforted and heal… ANYWAY!” and i feel like that would have been fine
I Hope she sees this knowing that we’re all on her side. He asked “Hey where you been?” And she answered it honestly and in a simplistic way to not make it about her or made it upsetting.
@@halogod0298 he doesn’t have to care. Hell he didn’t even have to read her response. What he didn’t have to do was lecture her on “stream etiquette” and have a tantrum on how her response to his question dampened his mood when HER mom passed away
@@halogod0298 Bc he asked and bc it's basic human decency. Death plagues us all, the least someone could do is be empathetic to something we all experience. Or at least ignore what she said and not be rude...
as somebody who HAS been treated like a therapist in my personal life, there is a MASSIVE GULF between that toxic behavior and just sharing one's feelings and life news (i.e. normal human social behavior). to be clear, what this person did was the latter. the streamer freaked out and basically said don't have emotions or be a human in front of me I can't handle it. what an absolute goofball
The fact that she thinks she's "in the wrong a little" for being honest about what happened is bonkers. Girl, no you're not. You answered a question that he asked honestly. I feel so bad for her feeling like she did something wrong because she didn't in any way
You have to guess the die hard fanboys of the streamer are coming to his defense. Plus Twitter is magnet for people who have the worst takes in really clear situations
She didn't ruin the vibe on his stream, HE DID. Any reasonable person can control the tone of their response to recover from a deflating or akward moment by BEING HUMAN and moving on - instead he just had a meltdown because he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him.
"he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him" THAT PART. Maybe he needs more filtering of his chat if he can't handle this without it being so upsetting to him. He had every opportunity to handle this like an adult.
What really sucks is that she really lost a parent and he’s trying to lecture her just for answering the question. Dude went on a whole rant against her all while knowing that she is suffering.
Now we're policing 'trauma-dumping' to the point that people can't act human. No feelings, no depth, you can only act happy and engage in shallow small-talk.
"Oh your mom died? I'm so sorry to hear that dude, let's hope we can get some good vibes going this stream to cheer you up" This situation could have been completely avoided with that sentence.
most twitch viewers are 14 year olds who blindly agree with anything the streamer does, because they feel they have no other place in life so they think submitting 8 hours out of their day to someone who doesn't care about their existence is somehow going to fix their issues
@@anomaly3215 I feel like that's most people I encounter on a game or in social media nowadays. They find it funny to just say the most horrific stuff as a "joke" and they don't realize digital footprint could screw them over for that.
@@user-uo5jx7sg6h Eh, streamer =/= audience all the time, I've seen plenty of audiences turn on the streamer/creator because of something they did/said.
@@vinccool96 yes and the best way to avoid getting angry, irrationally is to fully embrace and control your masculinity. This is the example of a man who’s been forced to suppress his masculinity, so it explodes out without his control when he’s in an uncomfortable situation. Masculinity is toxic when the person cannot control themselves.
@@jennanone1878 @Xenomoth @EmeNova355 Toxic masculinity is not a toxic male. Toxic masculinity is the toxic stereotype that men should always be strong, harsh, never show their feelings, and all those craps that are toxic to a man's self-esteem and mental health, because you think you're not a "real man" when you show compassion, or show your emotions. That self pressure can often lead to increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, aggressiveness, and substance use disorders.
As a former partnered streamer this pisses me off. The fact that she came to HIS stream after something so tragic... She went into the stream with hopes of being cheered up and got shitted on about her mom passing. Dude is a P.O.S for that.
Exactly this. Dude couldn't even take a second to think about the fact that on potentially the worst day of her life she chose his stream to lift her spirits and he fucking raked her over the coals. What a fucking dipshit
I got a (non cancerous) tumor taken out of my back and i couldnt sleep, so i picked a random streamer and watched them late at night. I mentioned what had happened, and the dude told his chat to give me love. The chat stream flooded with hearts and well-wishes. It was one of the sweetest things anyone had ever done for me. It was maybe one of three total times I was on Twitch, but I subbed to the dude just for that act alone. It was pretty baller.
“I had to read the words ‘my mother died’ and that ruined my entire day, my life is so hard, I’m going through a lot right now… oh your mother died? That’s just a minor inconvenience, and nobody cares. Somebody told me their mother died, I’m going through a lot worse right now. I’m the victim. Not you. Me.”
True story. I had a friend on Facebook I didn’t know that well. We got along fine, but she wasn’t a close friend. One night I received a message from her on Facebook. Her husband had been killed in an accident and she knew I was often online late, so, in desperation, she sent me a message. At first I was, “Phek, who’s texting me now?” And, “I’ll get rid of them fast.” Then I read the message and knew humanity has to come first. I have many flaws, but this wasn’t one of them. I ended talking to her every night as she cried. I listened, and tried to be supportive, but I knew just being there was what she really needed. About a year later I was making a silly post about always wanting a cherry sunburst Les Paul. A few people were talking about things they always wanted but didn’t get. About a weeks later I got a large package in the mail. It was a Cherry sunburst Gibson Les Paul worth a few grand with a note thanking me for being there. In short? Though virtue is it’s own reward,,,, a new Les Paul doesn’t hoit. Be good for goodness sake,,, and sometimes it even has unique rewards. Peace,,,,
As awful as the situation was, props to her for staying calm throughout this. Absolutely awful that she feels in the wrong (she is not), but when I went through something similar and if someone talked to me like that, I would've gone ape mode. No mercy would be shown and I would never be quiet about it for months. No one deserves to be talked to like that.
I don't normally comment on RU-vid videos, and I know this happened awhile ago, but I had to comment. I often get people come into my streams sharing unfortunate and sometimes devastating news. They will often apologise for 'bringing the mood down' or something to that effect, and I always tell them to never apologise and to always share. Fact of the matter is, livestreams are communities built up from people. People have good and bad experiences in life, and they may not have someone or somewhere that they can share difficult news. I like to think that my livestreams can offer people a safe space to share things with other people who care and wanna reassure them. It's really sad to see this, and I hope this streamer can be more empathetic in the future. Honestly, sometimes offering people a space to do that can save their lives, and at the end of the day, we should all really be looking out for eachother.
i rarely watch streams, but that is a very good way of putting. Thanks for being a normal human being with empathy instead of shaming people for expressing their situations.
the fact he considers someone saying about 10 words as trauma dumping is insane. this girl didn’t come in explaining every single detail, asking people to help her, or expecting something more. she just explained. it takes NOTHING to be kind. i cant imagine the hurt and loss she is feeling, and to get aggressive and loud with a girl who just lost her mother is so cold and gross of him. literally lack of common sense or empathy.
Yeah, it reinforces to others: Don't express your feelings on a basic level. Where were you? Uhh, grieving to be honest. Oh...STOP BEING NEGATIVE. So much disconnection.
seriously i hate that "trauma dumping" is a term now. Sure sometimes people overshare and it can be uncomfortable, but if you're really not in the place to listen just tell them normally. Now we apparently have a term that everyone will misuse and shame normal people for not being happy 24/7 and having normal conversations about their life.
@@violetbitch9492 I've said this since i saw the word first used. It feels so... Toxicly happy. I know it's hard sometimes to have someone vented to you when you aren't really in the space to help them but even a little "I'm so sorry, I hope you feel better soon." Is MILESSSS better than getting mad at someone for 'trauma dumping"
It's sad but at very least I hope that open the eyes of the decent people supporting him. All his words basically meant I don't give a bull shit about any of you guys.
i dont expect streamers to genuinely care that some faceless name's mother died but he went above and beyond to humiliate her. just unnecessary af i dont get it lmao
Yeah it’s so sad. Like it would feel like losing a friend if a streamer I liked did this to me. It shatters your personal view you’ve had of this person for a long time.
This is horrible. Imagine having the most traumatic experience if your life and finally opening up to the community you think will be supportive and getting shamed
This is the perfect example of toxic positivity. Gotta love those who are *aggressive* about their chill. Nothing more chill than berating someone after they give a real response, and then pretending you didn't. This is douche bro behaviour to the extreme, except even some of the frattiest people will just be like "sorry you have to go through that." Just... what a terrible human being. The sheer lack of empathy and decency is astounding.
Lol that's exactly it. The people who get so aggressive and defensive the moment you start talking about something real instead of just "chill vibez" are an absolute enigma
can we stop with the stupid tik tok terms jesus, tf is "toxic positivity" lmfao no its just an example of a dude being an asshole and trying to cultivate a cult like community, thats all there is to it.
" toxic positivity" Did you just make that up? Cause I've literally never heard anyone in my entire life or anyone on the internet ever use that term. Ok I googled the term, "Toxic positivity or positive toxicity is dysfunctional emotional management without the full acknowledgment of negative emotions, particularly anger and sadness." So I get it now, so now back off people.
He just had to say “I’m so sorry for your loss, hope you’re doing okay. We’re all glad to see you join us on stream today, you’re always welcome here”. Simple, empathetic, keeps the mood light.
Even from a purely, totally selfish "what will help me the most" view that response would've been the right one. "Oh, look how good a guy he is, I can spare $5-10 to send his way". He literally said the worst possible thing from both a basic empathy and basic self-serving perspective.
I would think that after being a streamer for any real amount of time, this would be the automatic response... Him saying it's a big bummer indicates (to me) that he's had some vibe killing experiences with similar things in the past... This should have been a practice swing with the ball on a tee, and he somehow managed to assault the umpire with a bat.
Stumbled on this video again and decided to check his channel out again cause I was curious how it's going for him. He happened to be only and still has around 50 viewers (which is already more than I expected, guess people are pretty braindead to keep watching such a clown). Funniest thing tho was when I clicked into his chat and a message popped up before I was allowed to chat, highlighting his only chat rule: "No trauma dumping" LMAO
The fact that she's even donated bits to this guy and is an active viewer to get shamed like that in front of the community is crazy to me. A simple I'm sorry for your loss was all he needed to say but he flipped the switch
I'm not very Twitch fluent, but I think you pay real money for bits, meaning that she's donated actual money to this guy on top of being a fan! And he STILL shames her!? And you're exactly right, a simple 'sorry for your loss' would've been more than enough!
@@GenderedMess It really is. And like, not to get too meta here, but we (being the stream watching community) shouldn't have to "vet" the streamers we watch before investing the emotions that come with being a fan! Plus, again, she lost a parent. I feel like nearly anyone would feel compassion or sympathy here... Let alone a streamer interacting with one of their mainstays.
Im sorry but anyone who has ever knowingly or unknowingly uttered a sentence similar to „aw dude stop ruining the vibes with your trauma“ really doesn’t deserve to have people close to them .
She was ridiculed and ignored so quickly for having the fortitude to disclose the tragedy, and they even gaslighted her into believing that she was at fault for responding honestly to a question that she didn't have to answer. That ridiculous reaction says a lot about this streamer as a "person," to put it mildly.
So true. And the fact that she took a „hiatus“ from watching him but is normally a known member in his comunity and therefor probably enjoys whatching him somehow tells me that she returned to his livestream and the chat for some sort of „comfort“ or to distract herself a little and then gets met with such an incredibly rude, discusting response by this stupid motherfucker probably caused her a lot of pain and if not pain then she definitely still felt worse than before. I feel really sorry for her. Losing a parent must be one of the greatest losses a person can endure and it wouldnt have been hard for him to at least respond somewhat empathetic and be like „im so sorry for your loss i wish you all the strength you need in those hard times and i hope that i can at least distract you a little and bring you a little joy.“ Instead of fucking lecturing her like shes a kid or some shit its honestly so disrespectful and i hope she stopped watching this dude matter of fact someone like that shouldnt even have viewers in the first place imo. Sorry for spelling mistakes and bad english im not a native speaker and sorry for the long text have a blessed one to everybody that reads this and to everybody going through rough times just know that there are amazing people around you that love you and got your back and will give you the strength you need 🙏❤️
this pisses me off because when I was 8 years old my father had passed away, it was one of the toughest times of my life and to see someone belittled for having a similar experience and sharing it is just terrible.
The fact that he is berating her for "bringing down the stream's vibe" when he's the one that went on a whole rant and tangent for quite a while on stream is astonishing. The lack of self awareness and entitlement some people have is just unbelievable. Poor girl all she wanted is to have some fun watching one of her favorite streamers to distract herself and all she got was getting shamed and gaslit on live by the person she enjoyed watching.
All he had to say was "Oh shit, I'm so sorry about that. I hope your ok." and then they would've moved on in seconds. So avoidable. I guess he didn't have much to lose tho.
"Be good looking" Ah yes. Allow me to objectify you in every possible way, because you are here for MY benefit, not the other way around. This dude SUCKS and i cannot believe people pay him for the burden of his company. lmao
This video came up automatically and it pisses me off just as much as it did when I first watched this video. I get not wanting to deal with heavy stuff in chat all the time, but what sort of vile person just sits there and guilts and shames someone for briefly mentioning a parent passing. HE ASKED THE QUESTION. Where have you been? He’s addressing someone who seems to be normally an active member of his relatively small community, a person whose absence was obviously noticed. Did he not consider the possibility that the response he’d get might be, at the very least, somewhat negative? The absolute least he could’ve done was show her a measure of sympathy for the LOSS OF A PARENT and leaving it at that. Content creators tend to be someone’s small escape of reality, and even a comfort to people going through hard time. He could’ve taken that opportunity to show her support and comfort just at that moment without needing to be excessive or anything like that.
If he's a teacher he'd be those type of teachers that be like "5 what? Apples? Oranges?" And when you actually say oranges he'd go into a rage and say you're being disrespectful for answering the question
Her apologizing about his response makes me feel so bad because he acted completely out of proportion. My heart goes out to her and my dear condolences for her loss.
@Durgle She is not an idiot. He was the one that put her on the spot and humiliated her and she initially felt bad like she had something to apologize for. She was trying to de-escalate and I bet it didn't help that the people in chat were defending him. I feel so bad for her.
@Durgle he literally was publicly degrading her for answering a question in a way he didn't like while people were hopping on his bandwagon against her 💀 i think a lot of people would feel a bit bad or shamed in the first place even if they know later they were 100% right. im sure she just wanted it to stop 💀
I've followed a streamer once, I was a loosely an active viewer (not massively, but enough to be part of the 'in-group') and I saw them be a real ass to someone and I called them out for it, they got super defensive and it felt like a total mask-slip moment. Ended up silently unfollowing them and never showed up again. Seems I wasn't the only one because I recall hearing their view numbers plummeted in the following weeks. It really surprises me that other folk aren't the same and will offer blind loyalty to the point where they'll even join in on the whole asshole behaviour.
Man didn’t even realize he was the one ruining the stream vibes by throwing a hissy fit over someone else’s traumatic experience. Some people lack so much self awareness.
funnily enough he could have completely avoided it by simply saying 'hey it's been a while glad you're back!' doesn't even require her to respond so he doesn't have to respond either.
It would have been as simple as saying "Oof, I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully today's stream can help lift your spirits." That would have been a lot more smooth and professional than what he did.
Me showing mom this streamer: "Mommy I found this person who hates every mother like you" Mom: "Oh dont worry my child, it is very rare for him to have children".
The way he says she was arguing with him by saying 'I just answered your question' reminds me of when a teacher is obviously in the wrong and wants to paint the student in as bad a light as possible so they resort to turning everything the student says into something spiteful and disrespectful even if the kid is making complete and total sense.
Man. That was so bad of him to do I’m a super regular viewer in sweatcicle and demonJoe When I was off for a bit and let them know I was in the hospital for 3 months Not only was the streamer worried about me, but the whole chat was also super supportive towards me If any streamer that I’m regular on spoke to me like this, I would be heartbroken bc I only follow those who give good vibes and i enjoy watching particularly on those days I’m super down and depressed I’m just thankful the people I watch and follow are good people and don’t belittle me for my life struggles or my personality (I tend to be the clown of the group to lighten things up and send out bits on twitch to show appreciation)
my Mom passed away when I was 15. In reaction to the news, a lot of people acted like how this streamer did I think it is out of fear and anxiety. A lot of people don't know how to respond to heavy news like that because they can't even fathom how it must feel. And better yet, their worst fear is to have something like that happen to them, and my presence alone is a constant reminder that bad things happen and it happens randomly and suddenly.
I’m sorry, but I would’ve told every last person who told you that to f*ck off. You deserve empathy, and trust me, as someone who is very prone to offering maybe a little too much of it to the wrong people, there is no reason to say they’re “killing” the vibes. No d*ckweed, you’re killing the vibes because you couldn’t keep your narcissistic ass mouth shut. I know sometimes it never fully goes away but I really hope you’re doing a lot better.
It absolutely breaks my heart that the person who just list her mother in her tweet is saying "I know I'm also in the wrong a little". Mi corazón, you are not in the wrong AT ALL. I desperately hope she can understand that and that this guy is just the worst type of monster
@-Random- I just had my grandmother die and mutiple people had asked where I was, I just told them I had a family tragedy and moved on. Being like Yeah my gma is dead Would definitely have killed the vibe for a lot of people it could've been word better 💯. That being said, he's still a hole , not providing any sort of comfort it's terrible. Even just saying sorry for your loss and moving on it's good
He literally could’ve read her response and said “damn I’m sorry, that’s rough. Glad you’re here to hang out with us now” and moved on. If he had a closer relationship with this community member he could’ve said for her to dm him or reached out to her on discord, but if not he could’ve at least done the bare minimum and said I hope we can take your mind off it of for a little or something. What he said was so horrible, gaslighting her and the whole chat by accusing her of trauma dumping unprovoked.
@@Spookatz. theres literally no good way to respond to something so heavy in that setting. it feels parasocial to tell a streamer something really deep and personal and expect them to give a caring response in the middle of a stream essentially meant to be a hangout session...
@@coriander2760 he asked for it, and she answered truthfully. Dont you make it like she just jumped in the middle of the stream and dropped a bombshell like that.
one of my favorite streamers used to just say something along the lines of “aw man im sorry to hear that, hopefully i can give you a place to forget some of that real world stuff and have a good time for a while” and it honestly made the vibes so much better than keeping the heavy stuff out, just acknowledge and move on quick it’s so simple
Imagine experiencing one of the worst things you could possibly experience and then when you try to distract yourself a little bit by watching your favorite streamer just to be lambasted for answering his question
He killed the vibe far more himself than if he just gave a normal response like "I'm sorry that happened hope the stream is able to take your mind off it"
i remember i had donated saying how you cheer me up and take my mind off it, cause i lost my mom to covid, and you took the time to say you were so sorry and it sucked, and you hoped id get through it. it made me feel so much better because i felt like you actually cared about me. a stranger thats your fan.
Charlie possesses this crazy thing called basic human empathy. A strange foreign concept to a lot of people for some reason. Hope you're doing well I'm so sorry for your loss
Narcissists have 4 prime aims. Fuel/Attention Control/situation, narrative Character trait requisition Residual benefit’s They lack empathy and make everything about themselves. They turn themselves into the victim. They have narc rage in an attempt to regain control of the situation. Blame shifting, triangulation, no self reflection, no compassion, haughtiness, abusive etc. Without empathy, you can’t feel shame, guilt, embarrassment, self reflect, self awareness, victim pity play. Unless you agree with them and their rules, a devaluation is. They must be worshiped. Praised. Lorded over. Manipulation.
