Stupidest Thing Said About The Rise Of Skywalker 

YEP

Certainly.

Hey it's possible Disney may actually retcon them

I can agree to forget the sequels.

Indeed

"They were fake Skywalkers. Rey is the only possible Skywalker." ~Kathleen Kennedy* *Probably

Shitty writing might as well call it “The rise of Mary Sue.”

DaScorpionSting the Mary Sue didn’t even rise. She just was on a flat plain the whole time

Dont worry bois. We have rey Skywalker. She was easily the best character in all of star wars This is a joke

As soon as I saw that title, I knew the movie would be dogshit. So uninspired...

Well put.

@Excelsior Same way that Boba fett isn't a mandalorian. Jedi is a creed, a way of life. A Jedi is not just someone with force powers. Luke wasn't a Jedi either until episode 6. Watch Luke in episode 5 to see Luke make every mistake a Jedi would not. Not to mention, the sequels never go into the biggest lesson a Jedi has to learn. The seductive power of the dark side. It's the whole reason the Jedi train. Instead Rey is constantly screaming and wielding her saber first in every confrontation. Watch her stab Kylo in RoS with such anger and tell me I'm wrong. That's not a Jedi. I don't care how much floating you do. A Jedi never wields their saber in offense. They are the last to turn theirs on. Even Vader knew this in Empire. Watch Vader in Empire, he was in complete control, while he watch luke make every mistake. Not surprising considering Vader was once a Jedi. Well, training to be one. Vader ultimately failed his training. But he understood the training Why do you think the counsel didn't grant him Jedi Master in episode 3? George spent 6 movies explaining this, yet you act like it's some big secret. Throughout all 3 sequels, i never once felt that Rey could turn to the dark side. It was never brought up as the threat it should be. Yet, she does everything a Jedi is trained not to. The Screaming she does in every movie is in anger, yet it's never shown how anger leads to the dark side. She's a Jedi as much as a kid in school dissecting a frog is a doctor. I could keep going, but you should have the idea by now. Plenty of great videos on RU-vid you can watch if you still aren't convinced.

@@PoopaChallupa good point. a big point of the originals was the danger of the allure of the dark side. In the first film, it's mentioned how Darth Vader was seduced by its power. Then it was more explored in Empire with Luke confronting a vision of himself in Vader's armor on Dagobah suggesting what could happen to him. Then in the 3rd film he is tempted to turn ironically for good reasons first to save his doomed friends from the Emperor's trap then his sister from being corrupted. It's then we see him give into his anger and physically defeat Vader until he stops himself at the last moment and rejects the Dark Side. We are supposed to understand he came very close to falling to the Dark Side. Rey on the other hand never has this temptation thruout the series despite showing signs that she could easily fall to the Dark Side (especially out of hubris). Even the dark side place in Dagobah shows nothing of this sort. Nor is the Emperor interested in turning her to the Dark Side as he was with Vader, Luke, and Kylo. If she killed him like he wanted at first, he'd have possessed her like some Biblical demon whereas if Luke did Luke would have surrendered to the Dark Side. That internal struggle was completely absent in Rey which is yet another reason why her character is so boring and unrelatable.

@Mark Peterson I have seen Sith act more like a Jedi than Rey. Just look at Kylo dodge like 4 swings from Rey after she goes into a hissy fit over the Wayfinder being broken

@@RoninDave I completely agree. The movies built zero tension and the RoS was the worst offender. Not only did they undo Anakin's story arc, they failed to make us believe there was any chance of Rey turning to the dark side. TLJ is a whole other problem. Why continue the Skywalker story(which already concluded) if you're just going to crap on the OG characters and replace them with substandard, undeveloped characters... They should have done 1 of 2 things, either use Lucas' story for future Skywalker series, or do your own storyline. Disney should have made something completely separate from Skywalker. Instead of cashing in on nostalgia and member berries.

Agreed. The catharsis is all I’ve got when it comes to the awful trilogy at this point.

It’s kinda pathetic I think. Imagine having nothing else to do than to hate on something no one can change. Just accept it and let it go.

@@bananerna2601 Or nothing better to do than troll the comment section of those videos telling people to just accept it. I'm not hating, just pointing out the fact that while you're here with us you could join the rebellion.

@@stever6606 How am I trolling?

@@bananerna2601 🤦‍♂️

The kaminoans were working for the sith

@@elliottblackburn4331 They were in that instance, but before then they had been cloning themselves and for other private contractors as well. The clone army simply happened to be their most well-known contract that they undertook. And besides, when they were cloning the Fett DNA they didn't have any assistance from the sith other than the downpayment provided by darth plageuis. And they never needed any, because they had been perfecting the process of cloning through generations.

@@elliottblackburn4331 the only hand the sith played with the kaminoan cloning was money, other than that it was all them

The real question you should be asking is how this random guy knows so much about Sith. Weren't they kind of secretive?

@@schwarzerritter5724 That's exactly what I was thinking! When did this guy start studying star wars lore? Plus the average citizen of the galaxy barely even knew that Palpatine was a sith lord.

lol so true

George lucas story.. full circle of fatherhood, brotherhood, and family.. qui gons fatherhood fighting for anakin, obi wans brotherhood to anakin, obi wans fatherhood to luke, anakin being the father he never had (qui gon) protecting luke.. it goes full circle.. a beautiful story. and now.. we have this rian jj circus circle.. smfh

It's like poetry, it rhymes

@@reishakyu3553 The first 6 Star Wars films were an epic masterpiece. The Prequels had their problems, but added to the lore and improved the story overall.

@@davidm4566 yeah I am a prequel fan and I'll admit that the dialogue was cringey at times (especially in attack of the clones) but the prequels seamlessly fitted with the OT. But the sequels didn't in any way And in Revenge of the sith we received the best lightsaber duel imo

I trust you sheev

I trust the Senate.

@@docmaly2178 he IS the Senate, so you’re good

Agreed clone

the senate never lies

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@@RobotHead I've seen it multiple times! Disney really doesn't understand lightsabers, do they? Also, in the opening scene of TROS, Kylo Ren uses his lightsaber to push a mustafarian, as if the blade is solid and not made of light.

@@matthewcs490 he pushes with the handle part kinda

​@Matthew Cs I do like the idea of certain armors and metals being uncuttable to the normal.lightsaber slash..gives some unique fights to these Jedi..who aren't always supposed to be overpowered and win every fight through strength.

lol i literally have the concept art book bc i wanted to see how they made a movie so bad they literally say katheen had alot of interesting questions like "do lightsabers glow in the dark or what is force" thats a direct @@matthewcs490

"Surprised gasp made by random soldier in the background"

So Shmi Skywalker?

@@uzifx yes

I mean he can translate because otherwise he couldn’t recognize it as a language

I think Rise is bad but that always seemed like something added by Jimmy Schmidt after he first hand experienced a Sith take over the galaxy.

yes because 3PO was NEVER owned by.. i dont know.. 2 seperate Republic Senators, as well as someone at least decently high up in the new republic at one point(leia)? had his memorie wiped(which may very well also include a software update) or anything else that may explain why he has the regulations and limitations of a republic protocol droid... also he BUILD the Droid, not PROGRAMMED IT, im fairly certain that The Main processor/logic isnt something he build, but something he just found or scrapped from another broken droid that could not be sold or something

But palpatine clones wouldn't get along too well, all being power hungry emperor's and all, like if there was a movie with every evil dictator and tyrant on one side, they would probably all fight each other

Hell, why make the Starkiller base, if all is needed are the planet destroyers of the Final Order? Wasn't the first order under Palpatine's control all along?

WOW!!!!!

@@DonVigaDeFierro That is just another plot hole introduced by JJ. Every single continuation closed few plot holes of the previous movie and opend up fuck ton of others. It is not even worth debating what would have made sense anymore

the already mass produce clones like in the clone wars .. they can program the clones

They sell it in the stores as „Reys Lightsaber“

Who cares how they call it wtf, I mean you already know it was Anakin's lightsaber but now Anakin is dead so it becomes Luke's since, you know, he's the current possessor of it (seems logic to me)

@@Boldard Sorry I offended you.. (not really)

@@lucifernazaedi No offense whatsoever, I'm just saying you shouldn't be so annoyed about a small detail like this, and that there's nothing inherently wrong with naming an item after its current owner. We call the Millennium Falcon "Han Solo's Millennium Falcon", and not "Lando's Millennium Falcon" even if Lando had this ship before Han Solo. See what I mean?

...when they should have just called it the Skywalker saber... it was a family heirloom. If they weren't so damn eager to kill the Skywalkers off, it could have ended in Ben's hands... and a potential redemption arc for the character. Just bad writing and poor foresight.

Well even though the whole palpi clone thematic is weird, it wouldt break the rule of two, because it isnt like there are 100 palpi's running around, it more likely seems that if he dies, one clone takes his place and so on. The only issue in that regard is, that palpi would always be the master who "reincarnates" himself over and over, while actually the apprentice is meant to kill his master if he is strong enough to take his place.

Lore point : Palpatine never followed the Rule of Two -> Plaeguis was alive at the time of Ep1, yet Darth Maül -> At the time of the Empire, There was Vador, but there was Mara Jade (sorry, Thrawn + Jade = same trilogy of novels, they don't go separate ways. And even so : Imperial times, rule of two, but Inquisitors... Year, Palpy never cared about the Rule of Two

Lmao

It's Rey "All-The-Jedi" Skywalker

Well, technically the men of Skywalker needs their hands to be cut of. Schmi's and Leia's hand are intake.

"My name is Rey STAR WARS!"

@@Thesyndicate11111 you spelled "HORS" wrong.

How about: 7. Bad 8. Bad 9. Cinematic cancer

I have a friend who actually enjoyed 95% of the most recent Star Wars trilogy… and then she saw the end of rise of skywalker where they killed Ben Solo for no reason other than drama. My friend will now never watch the main movies of Star Wars again because the end of the whole trilogy is a broken heart.

7. Bad 8. Awful 9. Cinematic Excrement

7:Ok 8:Shit 9:Half acceptable,Half Shit Just my view

7 - Lazy 8 - Horrible 9 - Shit

Talent

@@wall4215 Sure, i mean this in Rey though. Her Power just doesnt make sense lol

Why the Rey character was nothing

Rey does quite a bit of training, shown in the movies

@@nothankyooo Swinging a saber around, doing some jumps over gorge, and snagging some red string doesnt equal training. It takes years to master and go through. "If the way of the Jedi were easy there'd be millions of us instead of dozens"

@Gogani there was certain items only kylos Tie fighter had but I haven't seen the movie in a while so I can't recall what it was tbh But it was the same one lol

@@epic_donut2.5 yeah it was, I misremembered, sorry

Ridiculous editing?

Cause there’s no way that the First Order could have, maybe, just possibly, rebuilt Kylo’s fighter. Nope, Fist Order can only build one of Kylo’s special fighters

Somehow, Kylo ren's Tie FIghter returned

No offense but Rian*

@@williamblazo1871 No offense but J.J.

Upon rewatching TPM I can confirm that, although easy to miss, this was actually in the film.

Lol XD

The sequels are so fucking terrible, even the slightly less shitty prequels have better meme material.

It begins at calling this a movie.

Circular logic usually tastes that bad.

the real question is: Which is worse? TLJ or TROS?

But Star Wars theory said it was a good movie.

TimeWarpDrive 77 TLJ because it messed up the story to a point where TROS was left to rely on fan service.

The cuts where they remove the needless alien/droid shenanigans make it so much more watchable. I know C-3P0 and R2 were always kinda the comic relief but it was subtle or at least subdued like the conversation about accidentally thawing the princess' room on Hoth, or 3P0 just being an ass to R2, etc. It was there, but it was quick, over-and-done as soon as it happened. No one was fumbling their own head through a droid factory for 12 minutes of screen time.

Personally I only didn't really like the first movie of the prequels all that much. Or more clearly, young Anakin was kinda annoying to watch. Once they got into the parts where he is older, the politics, etc. it was quite good in my opinion. But I did start with the prequels.

I like the prequels the arent perfect, as you said, but they are cool the visuals are nice and it was by George Lucas (unlike one trilogy I know) and we got some fan favorite characters like general greivous, young obi wan and Anakin

I was born in this generation and I’m happy my parents made me start with tpm

Nah sorry Ep 1-3 were much better than 7-9, but they were still actually pretty lame films, with the exception of Ep3 which was decent, but that itself , was a salvage job at the time. The prequels are average films, not great films, average. People don't want to hear it (below a certain age because they grew up with the prequels) . Really ...the prequels were the beginning of the end for Star Wars. I dont know how old you are but I was 18 when Phantom menace came out, and EP1 and 2 were not considered anything more than crap. EP3 was Lucas' last ditch effort to make the Prequels work, and whist being better than EP1 and 2 by quite some way, it was still riddled with attempts to satisfy the audience. I remember Lucas before Ep3 sounding exactly like JJ just before the release of Ep9 .I remember everyone hating Ep1 and 2 , almost as much as 8 and 9 are hated now. EP3 was considered a good film but somewhat clumsy , and could have been much much better. Also the prequels have a strange feel, which is not very Star Wars. The original trilogy were special, the Prequel Trilogy were band average and the Sequel trilogy is basically runny shit after eating a dodgy meal. I mean FFS Vader getting in his costume and the whole "Noooooooooo" crap end of Ep3, which they then went back and dubbed over the end of Return of the Jedi , when Vader chucks the Emperor down the shaft of the Death Star, that crap was added. Shit like that is just fucking terrible and makes Vader into some kind of cartoon character. 7-9 are just so bad people have forgotten how bad Ep1-3 are, I lived through it and remember it clearly, the hype pre, and the disappointment after. Just because something is fucking terrible, does not mean it makes something Average into something great

That’s honestly what pissed me off the most. Of all the possibilities just remake the old movies just with less interesting characters

@@sirprize275 Right?? I mean, I understand why they got rid of the original Expanded Universe, but the least they could have done was keep the character growth and optimism from that canon.

That's the thing that's disappointing and depressing about the sequels: our old heroes are just inept and incompetent losers who are just the most miserable, broken down people. It makes sense if they were fighting a losing battle for years leading up to The Force Awakens but that doesn't seem to be the case the way the narrative is presented in the opening crawl.

Sorry but the prequels were s**t, no, it wasn't all sunshine and roses back then, how do you think we got Disney? Crazy Georgie had to sell it because he ruined it first with the crappy prequels and the stupidity in those films, Disney just gave the final stab to a franchise that can't be faithful to the originals untouched by crazy georgie, release the theatrical versions of Star Wars untouched and in 4K quality and you'll see this franchise alive and kicking again, all rest is cow dung. Even the Ewoks movie and the Christmas special are better than the prequels and sequels together, I don't even know who buys star wars blurays anymore? Even the originals as they were massacred by George Lucas in the 90's with the senile special edition...

Little Chestnut uh no one was talking about the prequels so not sure what sparked your little rant. I really like the prequels as flawed as the are; yes I had to grow up a bit to understand and appreciate the politics, if someone had just told “Crazy Georgie” to tone it down a bit with the overly poetic dialogue and special effects I believe the movies could have been amazing. I honestly feel bad that George was pretty much bullied into selling his creations to a soulless company.

Get woke, go Snoke

Rey: I’m a no one. You got that right, you damned Mary Sue, you!

That's the thing that made me scratch my head. The movie doesn't even have a clear moral.

the movie would have been slightly better if she accepted she was a palpatine at the end instead of calling herself a skyealker

In all honesty Skywalker was the ideal name, and I doubt Rey would want the burden of constantly being harassed by others in the galaxy because of her true lineage. That is the equivalent to a descendant of a dictator calling themselves Rolf Hitler, it will only lead to unnecessary trouble.

Thatd be awesome

And Grand Admiral Thrawn is the antagonist.

Me too, after seeing what he did with Star Trek and Lost. I didn't see him putting together a solid plot driven story/movie.

His Star Trek movies were such trash. They had absolutely nothing to do with Star Trek.

I tried to warn people... but somehow, the guy who ruined Star Trek, was the best thing that could ever happen to Star Wars... That's when you wait for the ... How did that work out for you?

She’s a Mary Sue.

R2 deserves to be a Skywalker more he met all of them and was there for over 60 years

@@Urdnot_Wrex_Fan but he got stole by rei.. like bb8 .. she never return back to poe .. and never ask for it .. just because she has a vayeiyei

@@darkmistico rey is the biggest theif Anakin's lightsaber, bb8, precious screentime, and the Skywalker name

@@DaScorpionSting I got temp banned from a FB Star Wars page for using that term

He did the right choice. The fanbase abused him and his film cast back when he tried to creat something new with the Prequels. I think people like you lost the privilege to be happy with Star Wars.

@@shizachan8421 agreed. The new Star Wars sucks but it's the "fans" fault this happened in the first place

@@djbubblegum9975 I think it wasn't probably as good as Georges idea could have been, but I kinda liked the movies as individual movies. Though I generally like how Abrams does Star Wars and consider him a reasonably competent Star Wars director. I think a trilogy solely directed by him would have had potential to be really great. I liked TFA very much and I liked more things than I disliked in RoS. But people shouldn't act like the decission to repeat stuff from the OT is something that came out of nowhere, the message from the fanbase was constantly that they hate new stuff. Even if you compare TFAs reception with TLJ.

Yeah considering the backlash George got from the prequels the best you can do is try and tell them to use George's plan or to just recycle the expanded universe for basically easy cash grabs.

But they brought us Rogue One, Solo, Mandolorian, Clone Wars season 7, and most recently Bad Batch. The only thing that really sucked was the trilogy and their star wars park

"just wants Kylo Ren to loose"- Not knowing the difference between 'loose' and 'lose' is SO lame! LOL

@@Ziggy_Moonglow 1, It is entirely possible that OP isn’t a native speaker. 2, You’re really going to make fun of someone for a spelling error? You should get a life

my thoughts exactly

You ain’t wrong mate 😂

7 was actually enjoyable to watch but only because it’s a new hope 😂

Yeah lol. I'm so disappointed plinkett didn't bash it like he did prequels, which were not bad in comparison

Episode 7 was good, things went down hill from episode 8

😂😂😂😂😂☠️ damn bruh

Because Kathleen Kennedy is afraid of things which become erect or otherwise defy gravity. Scared little lezzie.

An*

@@kamrankhan-sb9yt 😑

the goldsmith overlord basic english🤷🏽‍♂️

It made no sense though, he literally gave the speech and ordered Starkiller Base to fire and destroy multiple planets, and then they expect us to just take him as being a "spy"? I don't think so

@@shadowscythesit’s more of a situation where he no longer aligns himself with the first order, he’s still evil, he just doesn’t like the first order anymore

Absolutely. This NAILS why this might well be the biggest missed opportunity in CINEMA HISTORY

This

@airlockengage man, that is so true

@THE MASTER BAITER the first TF Bay film was a near perfect film for me, i fucking love it. Every one after that, Bay thought bigger, more explosions, more locations more more more and they suffered because of it

Omg I never thought of that, dammit! You're fucking right! Fuck !

Jar Jar- From being cast out from his people, to helping jedi, to becoming a senator Rey- Unstoppable, to...yeah you’re right

Jar Jar is a legend.

Jar Jar: Goes from a gungan who was kicked out of his home town to a senator (I think, something like that anyway) who had to make meaningful choices and eventually had a hand in giving over power to palpatine. In other words, actually has an arc and contributes to the plot. Rey: Starts out as a mary sue with a personality that makes Boss Nass seem like a deep character. Goes into TLJ as an edgy teen who is actually a fully grown adult who disrespects and literally assaults one of the galaxy's greatest ever heroes. Ends up in ROS with the personality of a sith, yet is "All of the jedi" and eventually steals Luke's identity and home, after fulfilling palpatine's promise of her killing him, which should have caused her to be possessed by him or whatever bullshit JJ was selling at the time. I guess it's technically development? In the same way that taking a piece of art and smearing shit over it is "developing" it.

I will never change your mind on this fine point

@@lordporpoise8761 Simply moving a character from one role to another is not character development. What did Jar Jar learn? What did he struggle with? What are his motivations, and what makes him have these motivations? Jar Jar isn't a good character; he's pretty much comparable to Finn except Finn can be less annoying and clown-ish most of the time. The Prequels are just as badly written as the Sequels; they're just bad in different ways.

That woulda been WAY better. Personally i was on the side of plagues somehow being the mastermind.

Now remember young Jedi's. If you're trying to defeat the most powerful force user ever, don't use one lightsaber. That's stupid. Use two. It's much more effective and apparently means anyone can defeat an all powerful force user with just two lightsabers.

And a cheesy comeback line. You can't forget that one.

Didn't even complete her training. Made her OP for no reason.

@@Wolta pretty sure rey never trained at all

Don’t forget how it’s a outright ripoff of Avengers Endgames “I am... inevitable” and “And I am Iron Man” line.

Wut about the spin-offs? Solo or rogue one?

And no 1,2 and 3 are already horrible.

@@satchelmouth1 1,2 are ok , 3 is great

@@satchelmouth1 3 is a great movie the other two are ok better then these new 3 movies

@@satchelmouth1 stand alone yeah I agree except 3. But with clone wars their really good I still think people needed more context to make them good and honestly clone wars made me much more interested in the story of the republic and the separatists than the whole empire storyline

the sole unifying theme of all 3 of these abortions is the consistency of shallowly-symbolic pageantry at the expense of well-established history.

@Major Problems lol

@Major Problems On the contrary I think that was more Luke and Han deciding that wasn't a great idea after his reaction to the handcuffs earlier. They don't detail it in the film but I've seen that theory floating around before and it makes perfect sense.

@@ZenMonkeyGod I always through Chewbacca rejects any possessions that don't serve a purpose. That is why he does not seem to own anything but his gun and bandoleer.

and then Leia Sings "Cheewie I Hardly Knew Ya!"

It’s all a nightmare Luke had and he explains it to his wife Mara Jade who tells him to focus on his family and training their son Ben.

its not canon really since george lucas said this wasnt how the sequels were supposed to turn out so its basically a giant fan fiction

@@getrekskrub Bad fan fiction at that.

K Hathaway I think we can all agree on that

If the leaks from Disney end up being true it looks like that's exactly what everyone is going to do.

Ironic.

Well he didn't take his own advice

Dumbass zaps himself in all three trilogies. Dude don’t know how to shut off his flow.

@@SumDumGy_formerly_Tim_Walden He didn't want to damage his force prostate by cutting off mid stream.

In the RoS, Palpatine wanted Ray to kill him, so he could posses her body. That's why he didn't stop shooting lightning, he wanted to trick Ray into killing him, and she did. It was all part of the plan.

@@user-jp7tw3sd3x well idk but knowing it's a bad ending is actually make me feel better

@@user-jp7tw3sd3x So Rey is actually evil at the end? What a twist...???

this comment is as bad as the movie Die Fähigkeit zu sprechen macht dich noch lange nicht Intelligent - Qui-Gong Jin

@@wontrespond8064 is it "The ability for you to speak does not make you intellegent"

@@anti-dreamstansunited3391 yes my friend

@@wontrespond8064 nice reference

@@wontrespond8064 I mean... It would definitely make someone more intelligent, haha.

Cuz the writers thought fans would like it.

Well assuming your never watched the movie (please don’t) She calls herself skywalekr cuz She sees Leia and Lukes FORCE GHOSGT

Those who can't originate, adopt Like JJ's writing/directing/producing style

*Identity theft and fraud is not a victimless crime. It affects over millions of families, especially in a galaxy far, far away.*

I held out hope until the final trailers dropped a month before TFA did. I said it looked like a vacuous retread of A New Hope, based on the trailers and the pattern of JJ's entire filmography, and no one believed me.

Not to quote Red Letter Media on this, but if JJ had been *only* in the director's seat (ie. leaving the writing/producing/etc tasks to other competent people making actual good decisions), it could have been awesome. Not unlike Zach Snyder, he's not a bad director, he's just a very poor storyteller and thus needs a solid, well-constructed script to work with.

"Let them pass between us!"

Sadly, this is where it ends... Star Wars is dead!

@@Soulfly415 | Not if we pretend that nothing after ROTJ (except for The Mandalorian) happened.

Thanks

General Shadow when I see a video like this I see the stupidness of the humanity.

Ever since disney bought star wars in 2012 they had essentially 7 years to get the movie right

@@Turbulation1 they used all to ruin...

I remember reading Luke's name on the crawl in Force Awakens. I got chills! I was like "HOLY shit luke is really back!!" Aaaaaand then we got Last Jedi.....

they didn't have 40 years. the story was presumed done. nothing left to get right. until -the fire nation- -Disney- Bob Iger came along all high from how he hit the jackpot with marvel's potential. he was right of course but his mistake was the people he put in charge.

SW is ruined forever.

Let's just think of it that way

Hell, Palpatine _did_ clone himself in the comics. Except, he made himself young and strong again, and actually made sense.

@@DraconicDuelist Yeah, somebody told me that a few Weeks back, didn't knew it. JJ just took nibble at everthing and put it in..

That's why it was so ridiculous. Nobody wants to watch someone's fever dream.

@@dumbasswithinternetconnect1611 exactemundo!

Me at end of episode 7 'will the all suck ?...' At end of 9 'Oh, yes'

That was me while watching episode 7.

I mean, seven sorta had a plot

7 was best in the sequel triology but worse than other ones

@@dumbasswithinternetconnect1611 yeah, the plot of a new hope lmao

At least Revan is canon now?

money and greed. pretty simple.

Asking the Star Wars Fandom to help with a amovie script would be the most stupid move to do. Its the most toxic fandom there is and it had been this way since Empire Strikes Back, which supposedly ruined Star Wars according to the OG hardcore fans.

disney employs Hollywood types who are *in no possible way true SW fans.*

Too many hands in the cookie jar.

I could have seen them for free if I'd chosen, but I didn't, and I still want my time and money back.

Same

Imagine how George feels.

@@TheRobloxianTacoLord rich?

@@thewatchersdidnothingwrong7702 Hello there

No because they are Canon like you them or not they are Canon and it's official.

@@vernusred4757 Which begs the question, how bad, how non-sensical, how universe-breakingly terrible does something have to be in order for it to no longer be canonical? Most people would agree that cinema is the most canonical; topping tv, videogame, book, or other media. However, if a crew of a thousand people make a production that millions and millions of people despise, does it still count as canon? What about Reboots? Which one is the real canon then? Which Total Recall is the actual Total Recall? Is the Star Wars Holiday Special canon? If a single entity / company (like Disney) can make a massive amount of non-film content non-canonical, why can't millions of people make that same decision for themselves, regardless of the media that it exists in? I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm just going to say that it's okay if people make an honest decision with themselves to not recognize these as canonical.

@@vernusred4757 no they are not, and I will fight to the death with any moron that thinks that

@@vernusred4757 the sequels are as good as your grammar

yes

Not really it is another demension only really celestial bodies like asteroids, stars and planets make an impact in that dimension

Now that i think about it the lightspeed jumping scene kinda retcons the holdo maunuver. Like do you run into stuff or no beacuse there were a few times when the falcon was like 20 feet away from solid objects

" . . . and the Third Reich has nukes. Win the war!"

Robo I feel ya xd

Catzilla The First Order vs The Third Reich, sounds like a movie that could be better than the Rise Of Garbage

AND he`s been building a secret navy with HUNDREDS of nuked equipped battleships, all hidden in a secret sea which you can only get to with a special MAP! So hell, I don`t know how all them engineers who built the ships got there. But yeah, he`s back!

@@VelvetMagician I was mostly wondering, "why does he sound so cheerful? He's just delivered some REALLY bad news." Also, what was the point of that ridiculous data cable connection to R2? When we see the briefing later on, Po only tells us a couple of things: 1) Palpatine is alive. 2) He's building a fleet on Exogol 3) We don't know where Exogol IS. 4) He going to attack in 16 hours. That's it. Bollio could have written those four sentences down on a piece of paper, wrapped it around a rock and thrown it down the hatch to Po.

I have one small question for people who hate Sequels why are you watching them if you don't like them. Gosh I mean you make yourself look like stupid 9 year old kid's who play Fortnite.

@@vernusred4757 I must say, I don't like the sequels, but what you are saying is correct, there are a lot of people hating on the sequels just for the sake of hating it, but then again, there are also a lot of sequels fan that keeps hating on the Prequels and even the Original, sometimes you jist gotta accept it, that there will always be people who acts like this.

@@vernusred4757 because we are fans of star wars who have seen the franchise get pissed on for quick cash grabs

@@vernusred4757 "why are you watching them if you don't like them." 1) What is wrong with your brain that makes you think we didn't all WANT to like it? 2) Legitimately not liking a film for any reason other than 'I heard it was crap' kinda requires that you.... y'know.... watch it. I'd say both of those were painfully obvious to everyone not you, but I guess acknowledging those simple facts means you don't get to spend another day writing condescendingly-toned, intelligence-free comments on RU-vid.

I doubt he actually writes them. He probably wrote the plot on a napkin and someone else had to finish it

JJ really did explain how Palps came back with a prequel meme. As much as I love those, you can do better JJ by GIVING AN EXPLANATION

@@hebthealien "Dark science...cloning...secrets only the Sith knew."

@@Del-Dokan that guy (and everyone else in the room) must've slept in his galactic history class

@@Del-Dokan Like JJ did you even watch EPISODE 2 TITLED "ATTACK OF THE CLONES" like even if you hate the prequels, THE CLONE WARS was mentioned in A NEW HOPE there's no excuse

@@hebthealien Ok, not trying to be rude or anything but...what's your point?

I remember Disney did this for a lot of their movies when I was younger. Like they would advertise putting a movie in their vault and say "buy it before it's locked up forever!" Imagine they did the same with the ST. People would probably thank them.

@popo129 yep the Disney Vault strategy. It's worse with SW though because every major release (97, 04, 11, 19) has changes. The D+ one (4K) changed the Greedo scene yet AGAIN...and the 2011 has hideous bluish color grading.

@@hbdragon88 Yeah was watching the OT on Disney+ and I was so upset they used the latest changes. Ep 6 with Vader was ruined for me because of that cringe "no" he says in the end.

Fuckem I still have my copy of the Original Trilogy in THX (not special edition)

@@mpalfadel2008 best version of the Trilogy you can get, hands down. This side of harmy's and the like, at least. But I like this set better honestly. Picture's fantastic, cleaned up just the right amount; the only visual alteration is that the sabers absolutely fucking pop; and the sound? Unreal. Dial that thx shit up to 1138, it's still crisp and clear. Great set of tapes, even the packaging is the best I've seen; the half faces and color schemes, goddamn I'm gushing over this shit. I'm so glad I took the "...One Last Time" seriously. Dunno what I'll do when they finally give out, actually. Got a pit in my stomach now

​@George Gershwin Legends never was canon. George Lucas's work is canon.

I still don't understand how people can miss that.

@@naamadossantossilva4736 nostalgia is a very powerful thing

everyone seems to forget how stupid The Force Awakens was

@@harrambou9468 it was the "best" out of the three steaming puddles of shit we got

I agree nightwishfan I quit at farce awakens.

Because a kid under 9 wrote axe cop and people like axe cop?

Because you’re right.

I mean a 13 year old (I think 13?) wrote Eregon (not the movie), and that apparently did pretty well for a while. So statistically speaking, you're not too far off.

Because a 9 year-old would actually have a soul unlike these corporate producers

Because a child's imagination and creativity does not bow to corporate demands and expectations.

It always amazes me that people seem to think it's hard to write stories about Superman. Comics featuring Superman have been coming continuously since *1938* and there have been numerous adaptations for radio, TV and film over the years. To me that says it's not particularly difficult to tell interesting stories about a powerful character.

that's hilarious, considering disney made the EU non canon

@@lapplandkun9273 and that's why I say: it was also, the dumbest thing to do. Because they took stuff from the EU anyway. Remember cloning Jedi? That's in forced unleashed. Remember Palpatine? That's in a comic / novel series. A lot of the Jedi I remember reading the EU were women. but... all this isn't cannon.

@@isleapyhunter7769 Jedi Knight 2 was re released on PS4. Kyle Katarn is canon dammit and no moron at Disney can say otherwise!

The stupidest thing ever is, actually, to defend the prequels. Touchee.

@@jimslav6973 literally nobody said that, but you do you fam :)

Wouldve been much better if she wouldve "clean" the Name palpatine and accepted her identidy.

No, it was when Rey killed Palpatine. That literally ruined the prophecy of the Chosen One in a millisecond.

It was already ruined when we saw that opening scene, but that scene is definitely the runner up for the worst moment in the movie.

@@RogueFox2185 "I am all of the Jedi"?

Oh yeah that moment which solidified Rey being a Mary Sue to even her biggest defenders and the normies, I actually repressed that one.

Especially consedering Sidious told Anakin that plagues had a theory for conquering death. I thought it wouldve been interesting because Anakin being the chosen one couldve been a misinterpretation and it couldve been kylo who destroyed the sith. Perfect poetry with Plagues manipulating Midochlorians into creating Anakin with everyone thinking HE was the chosen one only for plagues to come back out of the shadows after desiving his apprentice and have the grandson of his creation turn out to truly be the chosen one.

IX: the death of a franchise

You have VII twice.

@@tonyaughney8945 thanks

VIII: Empire Strikes Back, Again...

How about - IX: The Return of the Jedi Returns

Thanks for the new headcanon

Burying Anakin's saber in *sand* is a massive sin

@@MariOmor1 Yes, because first of all, Anakin hates sand, and second of all, Anakin’s Weapon was the Legendary YOUNGLING-SLAYER 2000.

@@HoodiewearingOpp 9000*

The bad guys won. All that healing stuff, that's the stuff Palpatine hinted that he was gonna teach Anakin - how to extend life, and nobody even had to teach Rey, like Luke said, she immediately goes dark. Palpatine won. Rey is darker than he ever was, she's just too innocent to realize it yet. She did exactly what he told her: "kill me." He's inside her (ew!) now and forever. She buried Luke's memory on Tattooine, the LAST place Luke woulda ever wanted to end up. I could practically hear Palpatine laughing as the credits rolled.

Including yours

Batflashanakin Ahsokapadmewonderwoman do what must be done

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie

Liked then unliked so fast 💀💀

@@calclips you are a bold one (for saying that)

Because JJ has no clue on how the force works.

luke literally could use the force the way he did in a constant way for 5 years before struggling a bit. i mean yoda kept using until his dead in episode 6: -in rebels he uses the same skill as luke to talk to ezra and see ahsoka in some point, and didn´t die

If you are looking for plot holes, you will be here a while.... This dumpster fire of movies makes a transformers movie look like dramatic literature.

Han: That's not how the force works!

in this same movie, palpatine raises hundreds of STAR DESTROYERS, and breaks the GROUND while doing it

Max Gubbins Mandalorian is mediocre and only good in comparison to the sequel trilogy

I enjoyed the sequels as movies besides the last Jedi.....do I agree with the story line no not at all I think it’s shit and it should all be a dream

"so quality"

@@andrews4983 Judged based on pure spectacle and enjoyment, the sequel trilogy is terrible. Even the Marvel movies, while way more competent are terrible compared to what the genre(?) can offer. Go back and watch the Indiana Jones movies, Back to the Future, Empire Strikes Back, Ghostbusters, etc. These are really well crafted entertainment/spectacles. Compare the way they are paced, plotted, acted, dialogue, action, etc. Just made by people who actually knew what they were doing.

Windigo Jones Come one, it's a pulpy b-movie type show. It's fun, but not great or amazing. Don't be foolish.

what you said makes zero sense.

How can you not? The sequels may not be, but this video is definitely a masterpiece

That makes him sound almost like Jesus. But in reverse.

Eh. I didn't mind that given the circumstances. If he had truly come back to the light, he'd know: do what has to now, self pity later. Trouble is that he died, so we never have a chance to really see him wrestle with it. It still could have been done better, but Ren for me is the least offensive part of a horribly offensive sequel.

@@basteala525 Why do people *want* to see this trilogy as offensive? It comes really down to attitude how much headache these movies give you... It is entertainment after all. If it doesn't entertain you, we shouldn't dwell on it.

@@kungolaf4499 because there's a bigger story that WAS entertaining it is ruining. And that reason applies to disappointing entries in other franchises too.

@@kungolaf4499 I , personally never *want* to be offended by anything, never mind a movie trilogy. Can't speak for anyone else. The reason why I *am* offended by the trilogy, personally, comes down to a few factors: 1) Like others said, it really shits on the previous stories that I knew and loved. TLJ had me down on the Sequels, but it was easier to ignore overall. RoS is harder to because it ultimately trivializes 5 good movies...and Phantom Menace. 2) This may be more personal for me, but I love a good female lead. They're so rare in Star Wars so when I saw the elements in Force Awakened with potential, albeit some spots that needed to be ironed out, I was excited. But I also have a high standard for such characters and Rey fails in every way. 3) Rise of Skywalker itself is an amalgam of all the things I disliked in the Sequels. The rushed narrative, the creative drought, the ass-pulls Lucasfilm calls plot twists, the overpowered main character who either overcomes an obstacle in two minutes of screen time, or crumbles under the pressure and gives up, undercooked, unrealized plot threads, and an absolute lack of respect for continuity. Finally, in the grand scheme of things, I'm not upset the Sequels sucked every moment of my life--trust me, there's plenty in 2020 that's more pressing to be upset about, lol. It doesn't change the fact that when I see the subject brought up that it's going to bring up bitter feelings, though. Let's be real. We turn to entertainment to get away from bullshit. We like stability and nostalgia and will stick to sources of entertain that have come through for us over many years. That's normal. When that industry fails you, and if it negates the achievements of the past, it's going to hurt, a lot. Baseball fans probably feel that way during the whole covid situation, or Astros fans that found out their team cheated, and ruined their championship legacy. It's just how we are as people.

For me the fight at the end of TFA was good, because aside from Rey's sudden surges of force competence the combatants show what you'd expect from a fight between a former soldier with basic melee training, a parkourist who picked up some staff tricks for self defense and a seriously injured, mentally unstable and tremendously pissed off knight. The later movies have no such excuse, though the throne room fight was fun to watch. XD

@@matthewbreytenbach4483 throne room was an embarrassment to the series

but she didnt had any idea other than money

@@FerutElCampeador exactly. it was an exploitation of an older generation fan base and their wallets, all because they wanted to share something that was special to them with their kids, like their parents did for them.... and it's so disheartening to see if happen.

You forgot the next line: "My idea is to get JJ involved."

I think the first mistake was Lucas appointing her as the 'keeper of the flame'. They expected her to be a Kevin Feige for the SW universe. She was just a producer/assitant that got lucky.

@@adeus_sinister no just the senate we didnt deserve

You're definitely onto something there.

@@adeus_sinister a sith lawd?

he didn't want to take the heat if the sequels blew goat balls. that said , i think his idea of exploring the Wills of the force would have also been received poorly. in the end what fans wanted to see was luke having rebuilt the jedi now having to face a new threat with said jedi. what we got was a hot mess that killed han , turned leia in to space-mary poppins, and turned luke into a sour old cunt that tried to murder his nephew. as for the new characters they were all over the place and no one gave a shit about them because they had no back story or story arcs to them. in short , we got to watch disney rape every thing we loved about the originals, destroy what meaningfulness the originals had , and in the end ultimately we got to see disney murder another franchise we loved.

LOL