Disney’s Race To Failure - John Boyega Strikes Back 

Wait hold on Did he say they knew what they were doing with rey? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Thanks for the mention Robot Head! 🙏 Love this video! Cheers! 🍻

REY!!!

If she breaths SHES A THOTTTTTTT

Idiots: Girls can’t be simps Intellectuals: Rose is a simp.

@@generalobiwankenobi8265 Rose is more of an incel.

Kylo, Is a simp lord though.

Whats your point?

TheGoldengamer Both Disney and George put black characters in Star Wars to appeal to a demographic, but George has talent and have Lando a character, Disney doesn’t and now look at Finn, poor bastard.

@@loyal-tf-fan oh okay thanks for hammering the point home and yeah disney oofed johns character big time.

Add Mace Windu. A true badass

Also to add, George gave Billy Dee Williams a chance to put his own spin on Lando. So he added some of his own charismatic flavor to the character. Riun Johnson, Jar Jar Abrams and Cuntleen Kennedy are all dictators who basically take a "my way or the highway" approach to anything. Rogue One was successful because it didn't have much of Cuntleen Kennedy's input...in fact, I don't think she was in charge of any of it. A good director knows when to listen to his/her actors and writers.

Same dude...same...apparently he is force sensitive though. So he could become a Jedi in the future, but we ain't gonna see that :(

It amazing how people still blame Rian for TLJ even though it was JJ who set everything up and didn't allow Johnson to reveal certain things.

Moral of the story: A black stormtrooper has not enough midichlorian privilege to be Jedi.

or at least if Rey becomes the Jedi then Finn leads some sort of internal revolt within the first order. so much potential wasted 😭😭

That honestly would have been wonderful, though I'm sure the films would still be shit. It would be cool to see a former stormtrooper turn on the empire and become a Jedi instead of the utter feminist dog shit we got.

Vader yelling 'NOOOOO' in ROTS has more development and emotion than most of the sequel trilogy.

Vader is OPPRESSIVE in that scene. Really sold how scared normal rebels were of him

Partisan tribalist bs statement. "I'm team Rogue Juan, so FUCK the st maaaaaan That one vendor guy from R1 had more emotion than the entire st combined!!!! fuck the st maaaaaaan" idk whatever lol

You know you done fucked up when your movies are more emotionless than the Prequels.

that guy with the death star plans who gets impaled on the door (the one that screams take it) has more character development than 90% of the sequel characters

Really? Star Wars 8 was so bad I had even forgotten about canto blight which takes up about 30 minutes or something. Actually I had forgotten pretty much every detail except the crap luke character treatment, ski speeders, illogical bombers, and stupid sacrifice

All they had to do was attach a hyperdrive to a bouncy ball, shoot it at the first order then make a quick stop at 7/11.

@@billykaelin6358 It's bad that my brain just blocks everything about it. I can't even remember the complete line.

Seriously, if they want a movie about a chase with fuel problems they should've hired George Miller.

It's actually impressive how boring of a plot that is

Yeah it was a cluster****

Ikr. Like the fucking obvious setup was the christ motiff. The perfect being sacrifices their life for someone else's. So odd, her and Ben's roles at the end of the movie should have been switched.

Yeah according ridley they were constantly going back and forth on what her heritage would be during tros production

Hahaha they didn't know what to do anywhere, let's be honest. Though, I think what JB was on about there was more about the marketing side of things maybe? That's how I interpreted it anyway. Then again, I even thought the marketing was cringeworthy, though I have to admit, that's probably more due to my experience of previous movies to know the next one is gonna be different to the marketing...

Yeah it was a mess but I think John means that Daisy was never meant to go to the side and become the "funny" jar jar character, but to actually have some sort of arc and be the protagonist along with Adam Driver

Slapstick is lame and totally unfunny anyway, which makes it doubly insulting. And typically Disney.

@@monsieurcommissaire1628 Slapstick really isn't funny anymore. There is a time and place for everything, and a space opera about war is *not* the time or place for slapstick.

@@agent3689 A SPACE OPERA ABOUT WAR lol SW has always been like 1/3rd comedy - a lot of the stuff in Ep4 comes very close to "slapstick", and conversely the physical gags in TFA aren't really full "slapstick" either. Finn being hapless and getting zapped etc. is "fish out of water" humor, probably Thor influenced; a decision that can be questioned, however you people seem way to stupid to even have understood that it was a fish out of water thing. "It's a badass soldier in a SpAcE oPeRa, there is time and place for humor but this is not it" look how confident and smug you sound while saying the most stupid shit :DD

@@monsieurcommissaire1628 "Slapstick is lame and totally unfunny anyway," Hm sounding really smug for holding such an unpopular opinion, but hey lol

@@username45739 have you not been watching these videos?.. Robot Head literally bitches about how they turned Finn from a potentially interesting ex-stormtrooper into a goofy "fish out of water" even when it came to things he should have already known about..the only one sounding smug is you buddy.... if you disagree with the videos, explain... if you just want to lash out at people who hate assjuice films you like, well no one can help you... if you think the OT was "slapstick" i dont know what to tell you.. the droids werent slapstick, they were closer to real "fish out of water" comedy... maybe if you count the ways the ewoks killed stormtroopers, but i dont as that was war, and those imperials got horribly bludgeoned to death and eaten...i dont remember any slapstick till jar jar appeared... was their visual humor, yeah...very different...get over it, ep 7-9 will be replaced within 30 years... or at least heavily retconned to not fuck up every other episode...just like disney removed 90% of Finn and and that lesbian kiss from the chinese versions, since they now see China as the market in charge..

The sensitive and complex insight into characters that JJ and Rian brought to KK's projects. Yep.

Sounds like my D&D players.

Fucking classic disney writing there

The first order stormtroopers do have feelings they’re not fucking clones

*first order

That doesn't make it better... It actually makes it worse. The Black guy became expendable. Leaving only the white characters on top and bring in past white leads to be the bad guy. That way only white actors do anything of importance in the film.

Yeah that’s what I was thinking they definitely didn’t know what to do with anyone

The whole fact they "forgot" Rey and Kylo were 2nd cousins since they retcon Anakin being child of Palpintine too... Damn creepy ass Reylo's not realizing the fucking canon, hell the director not realizing the canon...

@@rrcccc TBF, that's also a result of the role of the characters. Daisy was already "the Hero" and Adam was already "the villain", they weren't expendable by plot reasons. Still, the simple fact that Finn was expendable to begin says a lot about why he was in the film to begin with

@@ExeErdna seems like bullshit, but it's not like Star Wars haven't had closer kisses than 2nd cousins before.

i should rewatch those episodes

MFin' FACTS!... And that wasn't John's fault. Better character creation and writing.

Burr is also it seems a real good actor besides being one of the best stand up comedian alive. There was room in the story for both Rey and fin to be jedis. The previous 6 movies usually had two Jedis fighting one Sith.

No. Rey should have fallen. Kylo and Rey as Master and Apprentice would have been a true threat.

@@brianlara6451 *jedi ackchyually

JANITOR??????

100% more is just twice. I get at least 67 times more entertainment from Android Face...

I know right

I get 4 million percent more entertainment from these videos than the actual sequel trilogy.

This is a sad fact for me too...

More entertainment from this video than from TROS or TLJ Not solo because I thought it was pretty good

oh my god that would have been so good

Not really. Fin has no use of the force at all so it would never work for him. Fin is the most useless character. A custodian becomes a Jedi master ???

@@cousinsgrimm7952 he is useless because that’s the way Disney wrote him… the point of my comment is a what if, not what is lol

@@cousinsgrimm7952 no hes force sensitive- and this story would make him MUCH less useless- also i don't remember storm troopers being custodians- i thought they were soldiers

@@cousinsgrimm7952 wtf custodians when was a stormtrooper that? Also Finn had so much potential that was wasted which was why he was really terrible in the sequels

An underground of defected stormtroopers quietly winning more converts to their cause and eventually revolting to create a stormtrooper civil war could have been interesting.

I completely forgot about Phasma's existence until now

I wish phasma had more screentime throughout the two movies (and perhaps even appear in the third)

It also shows Phasma being a legitimate threat instead of being a nothingburger.

True

This is Spinal Tap was both a satire AND a documentary. Disney Wars is both as well.....but unintentionally.

Hereon fucken a, dude.

@Lachlan Reade totally worth it

Yes, but it wouldn't be satire anyway. I don't think you know what satire is.

But even if we all had black brothers and then we treated them terribly what are we then

@@owenkilcup6504 horrible human beings. Oh wait, we already are.

Speak for yourself 😂 Maybe not YOU you but not me lol

She was actually super anti-male. A radical feminist. He was probably pushed back for being male. just like she erased Luke and Han Solo's character.

Kennedy just hates men no matter the color. She’s the kind to say she isn’t racist cause she fks 4 black dudes on Saturday night while degrading them the whole time. She hates men.

It broke my heart to see how they treated Finn. Force Awakens set him up with so many amazing implications for the future. Could have been an icon, and role model to not only millions of little black kids, but millions of individuals all over the world. That's the kind of influence that Star Wars has. And they squandered that. Now, John doesn't even want anything to do with the character, and Finn will likely fade away outside of occasional comics. Shit just sucks, man.

Impressive! Perhaps you are a Jedi! [ deep breathing]

Geostomp yeah I was really disappointed, they had a chance to develop a really great character. The idea of it was amazing the execution was shit.🤦🏾‍♀️

By starting your statement with "as a black man", you displayed your own innate racism.

"...they ignore us screaming for change...blah, blah, blah, something stupid, racism, racism, racism..." So, "as a black man", you wanted to change Star Wars? Why? Was it because of your innate racism that made you wanted to destroy one of the most beloved stories of all time?

It would have been a cool twist if Rey turned dark in the end and Finn and Rey had to fight it out. Finn would’ve fallen in love with her and had to decide if he would fight her to save the universe 🙄

Already been done. Kyle Katarn is a character

@@pantherapardus1398 Yeah but to see it in the main Disney canon would be amazing

@@pantherapardus1398 not on a big scale tho

That awkward moment when people in the comments have ideas for the film that are 1000x then what was done. This would actually be a lot better.

Finn Should have been the main character imho. The Series woiuld have been so much more interesting.

@Cure4Living don't offend jar jar like that... He had way more character development 😂

@@spinnenente very true

I love the interview where they joke about that quote and Oscar Isaac says something like maybe they just got them and John says they've had them since the clone wars XD

They fly now!

Exactly! Finn should have been a much more serious character than how they made him.

That would have required screentime, on a very dark and serious subjects (child soldier). And that was not gonna happen with disney. As mauler said, that is why they made finn to be fun and upbeat, no way they will make a serious character that has suffered from brainwashing since he was child. It does not make sense that finn would be like this, he should be super serious and cold but mickey mouse would not allow it. They wanted an ex stormtrooper without any of the requirements writing. Disney was obsessed with making TFA light and fun, but if they wanted that they should not have made the stormtrooper and finn child soldier.

Why? Stormtroopers all tend to be bumbling idiots that can't hit the target and don't act independently. So really his character is spot on by that standard. I think focusing on his race is pointless to be honest.

@HandGrenades 4Balls I agree. A stormtrooper who is Force-Sensitive becoming a Jedi sounds more of an interesting story than Desert Planet Kid 3.0. We had two. We dont need a third one. Especially when they are a Mary Sue.

@@markusmccourtus1 I agree with your last point, others not as much. Firstly, in the cannon storm troopers are not bumbling idiots and especially the first-order ones since they have been trained from a young age. As much as modern soldiers like to goof around, they are still trained for war and get serious when shit hits the fan. I would be fine with him not being super serious but still being competent in combat. Second I think him struggling with lessons he was taught from birth and choosing a different path would have been far more interesting.

That makes two of us!

finn could've been kyle katarn 2.0 honestly.

hombre nombre Agreed, I’ve wondered what Walt would think if he was alive today

@@superninja493 Lets just say he wouldn't be very woke...

Hell, I'd be okay if they were just a greedy corporate mess. Corporate greed is at least predictable, and may sometimes, as CS Lewis pointed out, be satiated. Buncha Hollywood types being greedy af AND pretending to be morally superior to their own customers? Unbearable.

The company simply no longer has any good creative leadership anymore. Say what you will of Walt Disney himself, the man wasn't perfect but he at least had vision and to be somewhat fair since his passing most whom took over tried to continue on with pursuing creative innovation of his company. Even at Disney's worst, like their slump in both the 80's and the early 2000's still tried to provide fresh and creative ideas. Now however, I wanna say since Bob Iger took over, that aspect of Disney is almost completely dead. It's become less and less about creative innovation and more soulless rehashing of older and better ideas. Plus buying up other studios and properties, and running them into the ground as we have seen with Star Wars. Them going 'woke' is merely another nail in the coffin. As now your no longer telling the stories you want to tell, but pandering to divisive politics that have been continually proven don't make money.

Disney is no longer Disney when it started. Disney no longer about creating happiness, it's about money.

*China

@@luispagan9170 good point

Disney and any Leftist fucking media would have done it and THAT would have been an issue itself because we KNOW (and all you know) it would have been forced nonsense just for political agenda. But China...as mah man said above...is the reason

@@AdiViv95 Disney is definitely not leftist, it's just pandering. And not all interracial romance is clickbait, calm down

If Rey ended up with a guy it would have taken away from the “girls are better and don’t need men” doctrine we are force fed now.

Go and take your virtue signalling elsewhere!

@@Ricardo-cl3vs ?

@@jabba820 !

@@Ricardo-cl3vs You don't know what virtue signalling means, apparently

@@thalesanastacio760 "God, I feel so bad for John Boyega and Kelly Tran.(...) They deserved better." That's virtue signalling. You're welcome.

"No comments?"

The fact that Jon Boyega was black didn't quite cancel out the fact that he was a man. All of the men got the shit treatment in TLJ.

And now Boyega and this video essayer call Finn racist without good reason, which is a SJW behavior, and you npcs suddenly rally behind it lol Bunch of circlejerking sheep.

Moral of the story: A black stormtrooper has not enough midichlorian privilege to be Jedi.

Honestly If anyone was to be the main character of those God awful films it should have been Finn. It would actually be interesting to see a former stormtrooper turn on the First Order and become a Jedi and yet...

Finn, Kylo, and Poe were the only somewhat interesting new characters

Ngl I wish there was an alternative event where Finn was the Jedi. Reality can often be disappointing.

@@nasirthesenatejohnson6935 i agree

I loved Finn in TFA. The fact that he was terrified of the First Order to the point of actually being about to flee the planet, but then turned around and ran back to help Rey was true heroism. Added to the fact that he was literally conditioned to be a killer, but when it came down to it his innate goodness over-rode all that training, this just made him an admirable person all round. And then they flushed the character down the toilet.

I thought Finn was at his best in TLJ, his character doesn't make sense in TFA and he's just there in TROS.

And windu killed Jango fett and almost killed sidious

JarJar was better treated. He actually created an alliance and stood on the front lines with his people and survived. Like him or not: JarJar had more of an impact on the overall story than Finn could wish for. This is how dirty they did Finn.

@@juanita-dark Jar Jar actually had character development

@@juanita-dark I liked Jar Jar never understood the hate he became something better as the story went on. I feel real bad for John tbh he seems like the only fan in the new cast and u could tell he wanted to do more

Why does everyone always forget Darth Vader! Voiced by a great American actor who happens to be Very Black!

Exactly, I learnt recently that the original Alien character cast weren't even written with genders in mind for the first few drafts, Ridley Scott focused entirely on the story and the roles the characters played in it first and foremost, almost like those things are more important than a characters gender or skin colour...

@lord porpoise Well said.

Daisy Ridley was so convincing in her role , her stage school wooden acting was the perfect fit, John boyega another shit actor picked because of his diversity.

honestly. i don't even care if they make strategic race decisions (because in star wars who cares? any race can play any character in theory as it's a magical world). What pisses me off most is just having shit stories and characters. Just give me a fucking half decent story.

I had this same sort of thought. The organic diversification of film has done far more for the check boxes like inclusion and perspective than any sort of established quota or cast and crew requirements that any awards committee could ever strong arm into existence. They're going about it the wrong way. It is only going to damage the purity of artistic expression and it shifts the focus away from what should be the main point...the fun and enjoyment of the art!

Right!? So stupid how the fans are blamed for this, and while they might have played a part in influencing what decisions were made, they didn't make the decisions and they didn't make the movies. Disney did.

@@marisp2588 I'm not a fan, so they cant blame me for their trash products. I banned disney long ago, the creator is racist, and said if a black person ever became president,he'd give away disneyland

@@thoticcusprime9309 Did he give away Disneyland?

@John Stewart oh hukay. thanks fo ruining my day.

Leftist thinking exactly

Black character in prequels: "Meesa Jar-Jar"

@@ano_nym jar jar isnt black. The actor is black but the character is an orange alien. Also mace windu is a prequel character and is one of the most powerful jedi of his time, almost beating palaptine.

@@thescottishanimeguy9946 He has gotten criticized for being a stereotype of a black guy. Just like Watto have been criticized for being a Jewish stereotype.

ａｎｏ ｎｙｍ by far the most prominent black character in the prequels is Mace Windu. Why not discuss him instead of what you think is a perceived black stereotype in an alien that barely resembles a human whatsoever?

@@thinkwithurdipstick because I was making a joke not trying to have a serious discussion...

"I worked in sanitation" So... Was the mission from the beginning his first? His first mission was to slaughter a village of innocents? That's like... asking for defection. amongst at least like 5% of the stormtroopers, if it's common practice to just transfer around like that.

@@redbrush200 more to the point, 2/3rds into TFA he stops having a purpose and an arc and he never has one again for the rest of the trilogy. He becomes a tag-a-long. His revealing himself to Solo as a sanitation worker is accompanied by an acknowledgment that he has nothing to contribute, but had to say anything to get them to agree to help him rescue Rey (who didn't need rescuing). That's when he infamously tells Han they could just "use the Force" instead, lol

I mean u can't invalidate a person's experience. They are the ones on the spot

I don't think you've said that right but the way Finn was pushed aside after the force awakens is really annoying.

Doesn't make sense he being goofy. Fuck, he never had any parents,he was raised by a fascist military. He should have been mentally machine-like and at least twice as tough as a two dollar steak.

@@rafaelfarias4359 😭😂

More importantly, he made them CHARACTERS, not tokens. When I see Mace Windu and Lando, I just see badasses. This isn’t me virtue-signaling or claiming to be color-blind, I’m just saying that the fact that they’re black isn’t the first thing that I think of. I guess it’s not really what I think of with Finn, either, but he’s just kind of there. What do I even remember about him after three films? He used to be a stormtrooper... and that’s about it. He doesn’t really contribute anything to the story other than filling a diversity quota. Mace Windu was a key player throughout the prequels and CW, and Lando’s betrayal of Han was the direct cause of pretty much everything that followed in that film and much of what happened in the next.

Perfect Character Arc

Watch out battle droids, there's a new self repeating person in town!

Best character development ever

This is why the release schedule for the Disney Star Wars movies was terrible. I remember even noting at the time that a movie every year wasn’t possible for Star Wars, given there was a 3 year gap between every previous Star Wars trilogy and there wasn’t a spinoff movie in-between to distract the higher ups. Having so little time to make these movies means you don’t have time to properly develop anything. Marvel didn’t even do its content vomit until after there was a fully realized plan and a well oiled assembly line set up. And they’re floundering now that they no longer have a plan post-Endgame.

It actually makes sense for then to hunt down a stormtrooper who defected even if he was just a janitor because janitors know things, but unfortunately finn just became a token to the star wars ripoffs unlike samuel l Jackson who looked cool as fuck and was an awesome character

Not even becoming a Jedi, although I wouldn't mind that hahah. I've been rewriting the Sequel trilogy, and he is a skilled military mind that safed his family at first and then frees the galaxy as he leads the Resistance Fleet.

Why would Finn be a red storm trooper?

@@alanhaynes9672 nice

When I watched force awakens I was kinda disappointed Finn wasn't the Jedi I mean all the hype they gave Finn from the trailers. I mean just imagine this a former stormtrooper turn to Jedi

"Will Finn return..." "You ain't gonna Disney plus me" 😂

@@cagencagen473 GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH

Just watch disney give him a finn series to make up for being racist lol

Em Hu Yeah, they’ll lure him in with that, and then proceed to have Finn chowing down on Space Watermelons and Space Fried Chicken.

and yet she's never in trouble because she's ma-"Rey" the sue. even when she's dead you don't really think she's dead. (though props to Adam during that scene)

Disney created a black man who is nothing without a white woman...

Kurosaki-kun!!! Finn is the Orihime of Star Wars lol

@@spinx2273 to me it's less about race and more about them wanting to push the "strong woman" down our throat and flip the damsel in distress trope to the man

rey can be in trouble?

@Strange Boy Of course the non-white was just a side character. I'd expect no less from racist movie executives in Hollywood!

@Strange Boy come on, he was my favourite main in TFA.

@Strange Boy no thats no fair because thry bigged him up to be huge he was not a side character

@@MiniatureMasterClass they only casted him because hes black with is dumb hes a great actor ive seen a few things of him hes quality

@Strange Boy he was definitely built up to be one, and I would say certainly was one in the first movie. People have also brought up how his character could have been built up to have a more interesting arc, like how he and Phasma could have more of a rivalry and him some development there. Some example was that the "TRAITOR!" screaming stormtrooper should have been Phasma and they would have faced off, Finn been completely defeated. Then in the second movie when they faced off they could have been more equal, something causing them to have to stop fighting(e.g. ship falling apart, separating them). Then in the final movie had him defeat her. Could also have given Phasma an arc instead of being completely irrelevant.

Agreed. And we're picking up steam as we slide down into chaos and ruin...

They had no plan for Rey either, especially that it came out that they were gonna have her be related to Obi-Wan even though he never married or had kids.

I don't get why people don't talk about that. It's responsible for so many of the problems.

@@30noir A lot of the fans are talking about it. Is the mainstream media though? Of course not.

@@CalebHimself that wouldn't be profitable, cus Disney liking your outlet is the only thing that's gonna allow future favors from em, like early reviews for w/e bullshit they churn out next. Weee capitalism

No one is forgetting... It just isn't the topic. It is a complaint with it's own venue!

Except they only really care about the second thing, their only concern is and always will be themselves. They just pretend to care about other things, like women or minorities or lgbt people or whatever the SJW cause of the week is because it makes them feel better about themselves.

Unfortunately they "only" care about them

I like that!

I thought this video was piss me off, but it was so right on some many levels.

NarkoticMonkey , I will be using your explanation as my own from now on. I like it that much.

So brave

Joe Biden: "Applaud, you stupid bastards!"

@@megabuster3940 Well... that's out of place!

@@megabuster3940 I loved it, it was great. Nobody really cares get over it lmao

Well, I recall "Birth of a Nation" having a lot of diversity as well...

@James Mason Did that make you feel better? Is everything so bad in your life that you have to take your anger out on a random comment? I'm not even being funny I'm expressing deep concern.

@@mangowithagun7900 xD

@@mangowithagun7900 You verbally bitch slapped so much sense into them that they peaced out.

I don't get your comment. What does REEEEEY have to do with Finn's character being wasted on a stupid mutiny plot in one movie? Do the idiots who upvoted your comment know?

The funniest part of your comment 'Disney: haha, Finn go REEEEEEEY' is made more amusing when you think of the people defending Disney go REEEEEEEEEEEE! :P

That is because their stories (or lack thereof) were garbage. Rian just wanted this: I want them to be the underdog, pursued on all fronts facing impossible odds, and just a few survive in the end while we kill some of them. It was incredibly stupid. Stunningly so. The justification used for some of the scenes were incredibly bad. I mean - they went to the casino planet to find the ONE guy who could help them - oh, but while in jail they just so happen to find another guy. Oh, and that jail (again, them against authority) - they were being chased for basically double parking. Total complete fail. JJ was just a bad story teller. Period. He is good at scenes - and then just kind of strings them together. He sucks at any acutal character arcs or plot development or even creating suspense or tension with story elements - he always has to escalate to "saving the .... galaxy, earth, yorktown, the resistance...etc. insert big thing here". that is just sloppy writing. The scene of "I want them to hold up this cool artifact thing, and it have a message or map thing...". We got a dagger that was made for no reason by whom, that was stored where, and then rey just so happened to stand in the exact spot, holding it in the correct hand. We have to find the thing, to find the thing, to help us get to the place, but the place that all the other can find easily in the end. Keep KK, JJ and RJ away, they are clueless about star wars. Give it to Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni - they get star wars.

Hm me neither. I think it was about finding a dagger? Or using a dagger to find something? I don't remember

i am a HARDCORE Star Wars fan and yeah i also have no idea.

When I have kids if they ask can we watch star wars I won't show them the Disney ones and if they find out I will just say well the Disney ones make no sense and are pretty shit

Probably because there was no plot. Stuff just happened.

And I don't recall him ever swearing any sort of loyalty oath to those guys. No one tried to arrest Han Solo when he was about to leave Echo Base to pay off Jabba.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks only person that tried to stop him was a girl with burning loines

He was press-ganged. No other way to describe it.

She also T-bones another vehicle 🤦‍♂️ not doing a lot to help the Asian stereotypes

@JustIn credible Not always. Stereotypes are typically used to generalize groups of people based on one thing they've seen. While it is true for some, it most certainly doesn't apply to everyone

@JustIn credible not really. And right now the US government and upper class spreading anti Asian rascism to hide thier failures and failures if our socio-economic system won't change it

@JustIn credible if you think that is true, do you think it’s true that in an Asian country they think white people are bad drivers? You spreading that lie is racist. Being Asian doesn’t make you a bad driver, nor are most Asians.

Always found that statement a bit weird. He was so insulated from the activities of the First Order, that his eyes were only opened to their real agenda in the first movie? Did he experience any other kinds of encounter with them in between the movies? The movies never say or show us. :/

Because that didn't happen, that's why. Finn never fired a shot at all in the opening. And you missed the actual interesting bit there, it was POE who shot the trooper that Finn was so touched/traumatized by when he put his bloody hand on Finn's helmet. It was even directly pointed out when Phasma confiscated Finn's gun that it had not been fired. If you mean later in the movie, he was a committed Rebel by that point, who else was he gonna shoot?

@@exidy-yt I think he's talking about when the two of them escape in the tie fighter. You know, mere moments after he turned traitors.

@@vocalcalibration8033 That certainly makes more sense, however he had obviously intended to defect ever since that moment on the planet, so I guess he had time to get used to the idea. Plus in the panic trying to escape but being tethered, i'd probably shoot everything in sight too. ;-)

Bad writing.

@@exidy-yt he’d definitely have some ya know conflict. 😂 he was raised with those people.

Hey, Lando was a con artist that eventually conned the Empire and saved a dangling Luke, not to mention ingratiated himself Jabba's crew without getting killed and became a general for the Rebel Alliance. As for Leia, she lost her home, lied to Vader, withheld information from interrogation droids, kept emotions in check for the battle on the Death Star (which she knew the Falcon was being used as a tractor beam), kept the fight on Bespin, witnessed Han frozen in carbonite, killed Jabba and had to deal with the bombshell that Luke was her brother and Darth Vader (the guy who tortured her and destroyed her homeworld) was her father. If anything, she's the linchpin and rock of the series never giving up nor giving in, despite losing arguably the most.

looks like have a /whoosh moment people.

Leia was never a side charecter, the main crew: Han, Luke, leia, Chewie, 3po and R2 are the main charecters, but Luke is the main main character

@@teshiku1249 technically lando is apart of the crew since he broke the original crew free from bespin in empire strikes back, assisted in rescuing Han Solo, and was the one who blew up the core of the Death Star II. He was even friends with Han Solo at one point

BLM is just a nice way of saying, "Black supremacy!!!!".

That's exactly what it was. Regardless of one’s stances on feminism, diversity in the media etc., it’s naïve to believe that a multinational media conglomerate like Disney harbors much, if any genuine support for them. They’ve just noticed the attention these issues have gained in mainstream pop culture for the past decade and sought to exploit them for profit and publicity.

@@OwlPhobe Well said. Always be suspicious of any corporation when they take a stance on whatever the most popular social issue of the day is. Just shut up and make your product, especially when you hypocritically play up casting minorities, then shrink Boyega's picture on the poster in order to make more money in China. Like your words mean anything, when your actions tell the real story.

@@iceman00behave You know walt disney was racist.

That’s what woke is. Superficial and fake.

"They were filthy junk traders who sold you off for drinking money." "You're nothing you come from nothing, but not to me." Says the white male to the white woman. People just neglect those lines when watching TLJ not sure why they actually thought it meant that it was empowering for Rey.

Shit the prequels may have mostly sucked but they had cohesion and real overarching plots and arcs. They had a destination in mind and plans for an ending. Lucas' whole plan ended with Anakin and Obi-Wan battling and Anakin becoming Vader. He had that ending in mind and built the trilogy around that. It wasn't always good but it all built up for the payoff. And honestly it was a pretty amazing payoff. People joke about Vader yelling 'NOOOOO!' but that has more passion and effort than almost everything in the sequel trilogy.

@waluigiwithachainsaw I don`t think there`s anything pathetic about a realistic perspective, it`s Disney, they have more money then god. All we can hope for is that they will change for the better, or at least the management of Star Wars.

@@grizzlymelon8376 You're right. They put profits above all else. A few shit movies aren't going to be the downfall of a giant corporation monopoly. This video is a little misguided if he thinks that Disney cares about an edgelord complaining about black people on a cast.

@@pettalkingbrick5287 Its not misguided, its needed to be said, he doesn't need disney to care, just people smart enough to stop caring about disney. Did you really think this video is trying to take down disney? He's also not complaining about black people on a cast either, did you watch this video, in what way do you interpret stuff? Are people edgelords for calling out bullshit now because boy i must be an edgelord because you're full of shit with that last sentence.

PetTalking Brick I guess I’m an edge lord too, if that’s what you are calling people who call out bullshit.

To be somewhat fair, the original trilogy wasn't exactly planned out in advance despite what George himself might like to claim. Mainly cause Star Wars was never planned to be a trilogy let alone a Saga or franchise. But for the most it worked, due to a lot of creative people, Lucas included, putting all their heads together to ensure it all worked out in the end. JJ just relies entirely on his bullshit mystery box gimmick that he gives next to no thought or consideration on how to have it all line up or make sense in the end. So it's really no wonder why all three of these movies are so at odds with one another narratively.

Lost was BS also

@@DoomSplitta Yeah. He's done this so many times at this point that I'm genuinely surprised more people haven't figured it out yet.

@@billcipher147 I was intrigued with Lost at the start then I realised they were just making shit up. Rian Johnson is the worst

overpaid overhyped hack

I'm not black, but that was ridiculous, indeed.

@DavidOGD15 Only where it gets them positive press, take that same-sex kiss at the end of RoS, cut out in most non-european/american markets.

@@Izithel it's filmed and written to be easily removed without consequences for the film, it's there to have positive coverage in the country where lgbt is accepted for the most part but not to anger the country who are openly homophobic.

'It came from Chi-nah."

Thanks Man 👍

Disney didn’t have any source material to work from....

@@sheadoolittle Thrawn Cena: "Are you sure about that?"

Michael Bradley-Robbins I’m referencing Kathleen Kennedy saying that they Didn’t have any source material which is obviously wrong and shows how terrible she

@@sheadoolittle I figured you were. Couldn't help but make the pun.

Battlefront 2 ds not sure about other versions your a clone trooper who turns to a jedi

Right! Fuckin Abbott and Costello! Wait......I love those guys! Never mind

They set Finn up for a solid arc in "The Force Awakens"! What a waste of what could have been a fascinating character.

He definitely should have been the most interesting character.... There were so many story threads they could have gone with about a defected Stormtrooper, the affects of Imperial propaganda, the guilt he feels after killing his brothers and sisters he grew up with, PTSD involving being raised as a brainwashed child solider, and whether even a Stormtrooper is worthy of being redeemed through The Force... but no. Comic relief.

@@Nidstang_ when we saw him holding Anakin's lightsaber, I was willing to bet that Finn was going to be a force forcer. Think about it. He could be Lando's child and his wife was a Jedi. She died trying to protect Finn while he was taken away. And at the end of TFA, his Jedi training would begin

Imagine in the end of Rise they had Finn force grab the lightsaber just like how Rey did in Force Awakens. Then after they should of shown him reveal a new green saber 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Ivan Karamazov in all honesty, I thought Kylo Ren was going to be like Count Dooku. A former Jedi turned dark warrior after a tragic event happened to them

I disagree. Although Finn should have played a much more important role, I think he should not have been a main character, but hear me out. I think Finn had multiple options the one that would have made the most sense for Disney (because of money and no definitive relationships between characters) is Finn training together with Rey, neither of them being a main character but rather both of them being the main characters together. Another option would be a, and hear me out, love triangle. Finn loving Rey over the cause of the movies but Rey either not having those feelings for him because of her roaming character or an interesting backstory with kylo. I don't even think that Rey being a Palpatine is that bad of a thing, it should have just been explored more. It could also pose as a reason to intensify her relationship with kylo. He could help her train her powers. Snoke dying that easily is stupid though. He could have posed a threat to kylo and Rey since they mainly got in contact through his link. Maybe kylo stood against him after a while or was betrayed by him. He then could have fought against them in the end. Barely winning until Finn, which had a story of bringing people together to fight against another threat: husk and plasma slowly bringing chaos to multiple worlds. They then retreated to Snoke to help him. So Finn fights his way through but because Rey and kylo have already been knocked unconscious (or some other reason why they could not fight at that moment) he loses. Not dying but being thrown away though the floor or wall or smth similar, only to find himself against plasma and a bunch of troopers commanded by husk. Rey and kylo get back in the fight, and because Finn weakened Snoke as well as getting them enough time to strike back, they finally defeat Snoke. Rey tries to go and save Finn but kylo stalls her for a short amount of time, because he doesn't know Finn and doesn't have his emotions under control and is jealous. She manages to convince him and gets to the battlefield where Finn just defeats Plasma and the remaining troopers. Finn is exhausted but knows that they won so he is happy. Just before they can completely reunite Rey notices husk (which basically played dead) behind Finn with a blaster. Just as she cries out to him husk shoots the blaster hitting Finn. Just as husk realises he has 2 more force users to fight he runs away. Rey is shortly agonized about Finns death until she follows husk, ready to kill him. Kylo takes Finn and goes after her. Just as kylo arrives he sees Rey just about to kill husk. Try looks at him and after a while of thinking, going through her doubts, rage and other mixed feelings she decides to spare husk, ultimately defeating her bloodline. Just as husk realises that he picks up his dropped blaster and tries to shoot but ultimately gets his hand cut off by kylos lightsaber. OMG I just wrote a whole fanfiction about the end of the sequels and I feel it's 100 times better than the original... Bruh

Kylo and finn died in the force awakens and the other 2 movies are just rey coping with finn's death

@@blutwirbel3180 👏

@@n4n4sh1_ thx

But why couldn't they be both a main character, but in different ways? Maybe Hux and Kylo could've been the main antagonists, to even it out. Finn takes down his former boss and Rey defeats Kylo... with her training tho, lol.

You cannot redeem a space nazi. Obviously.

Bingo.

right on

they’re aware of it. they just don’t care and don’t want to wake up the ignorant masses to it

My theory is that Finn was supposed to be the main character like Luke was, he had a very interesting premise.