"I like the Dreamcast version a lot better." John Hancock there is no Dreamcast version of The House of the Dead 1, you got it confused with The House of the Dead 2 on the Dreamcast.
As a focused North American collector I wanted to showcase the physical games and ones that we got in the States. The Japanese market is great, but we did not get them over here and many are very hard to find in person.
Wow, I really miss Sega. I know they're still around publishing for other consoles, but at the same time, I feel like their output is not as adventurous as when they were doing their own hardware. I really feel like Sega made great games that were light-hearted and fun. I'm probably just getting old but new game stuff is so realistic, so dark, so serious. Sega was more about bright colors, the illusion of speed, and attitude. I just can't help but think of what the world would be like if they had made it through the hard times.
maxadocious I recently played SEGA's Transformers human alliance at the arcade and the graphics are amazing and the in game cutscenes have a very "Dreamcast 2 or 3" kind of vibe with the virtua cop esque looking human protagonists. You really should check it out the next time youre at a dave and busters or something. They might have playthroughs of it on RU-vid.
@av rmx yeah, it's such a shame. They produced some of the greatest, cutting edge gaming / console experiences in history (at those times). I mean.. talk about dropping the ball! They had EVERYTHING they could possibly have ever needed for success.. but they just made such terrible business decisions it's absolutely baffling. But nonetheless, I'll always have a deep fondness for the Gensis - Saturn - Dreamcast era that'll never be topped in my book. Again: just what a shame..
They don't need the original source code, it would not be really useful considering today technical standards :) They can do it whenever they want, they just need to make it
Great update video! The Saturn video you did a while back with Anna was actually how I discovered Metal Jesus as I had just bought my first Saturn and was searching RU-vid for buying guides. I’ve been a fan ever since!
I share Metal Jesus’s pain. I found a complete copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga at a Goodwill, but they wanted $185. I said wait this is Goodwill, why are you charging so much ? I stormed out.. years later, today to be exact I see this video. Doh! 🤦♂️
Game Rats suggest you to play Winning Post + G1 Jockey + Horse Breaker on PS2, or play the latest late 2017 Winning Post + G1 Jockey on PS4 or Nintendo Switch
That's how it goes. Often the most expensive games for the collector are the WORST games made. Reason is... no one bought them when they were new. Like Spud's Adventure on the GB, Clay FIghters on the NES, or Water World on the VB,.
When I got my Saturn and first played Panzer Dragoon Saga my immediate thought was that it would have easily blown up the series in the same way FF7 did if the Saturn had been more popular.
If I had a Sega Saturn, I would get the Action Replay Plus RAM backup cartridge because the Action Replay Plus is a 3-things-in-1 device: a region lock breaker, a cheat device and a memory card which has tons of save space for all of your Sega Saturn games.
Breaks my heart. I used to own so many super rare Saturn games, especially the Working Designs stuff. Some got stolen, some got sold, but all are missed.
Looking for this really rare SEGA SATURN game called 'Death Cult'. Any help would be appreciated It's one of the puzzles in an ARG ive become involved with ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2c6wj5BnlDk.html&lc=UgwNvBe_jrnoha4j07t4AaABAg
Burning Rangers is the treasure of my Saturn collection, even more so when I got it complete in box, excellent condition with manuals, promotional pamphlet and all of that just for 5 euros.
? The saturn was this amazing new thing that had people buzzing when it came out. The people who think that it sucked when it was new are either historical revisionists or people who are making assumptions based off hindsight.
Thank you so much for talking about current prices. I realize that watching this video 5 years from now the prices will be different but I LOVE seeing how things used to be when I watch older videos which I constantly am doing on your channel!
I bought Burning Rangers when it was new. One of the selling points was it had a voiced navigator to guide you in the levels. Playing it in Japanese and not knowing that language would ruin that part of the experience.
I'm pretty sure this was at Toys R Us for like $20 when I bought my Saturn. All the games were really cheap, must be when they were getting rid of all their Saturn stuff. I apparently bought the last one they had. They forgot to give me the game pack with it, and when I went back in they looked for a while, and finally found it (Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua Cop 2, and Daytona USA) and said it's the last one they had. I think I went back the next day or something to just buy up all the interesting looking games. I'm pretty sure Burning Rangers was there. I got Magical Knight Rayearth and Albert Odyssey that day. Astal, Clockwork Knight (which was one of the launch titles I think, but they had it there for like ten bucks or something)... forget what else, but I think I got several others. I might be wrong about the prices but I think Rayearth and Albert were really only like $20-30 at the most. I remember looking at Burning Rangers and I think I read about it in EGM or something, but gave it a pass. With my luck, Panzer Dragoon Saga was there too and I just didn't care at the time.
Now why the hell are people paying over $170 for a CIB copy of Winning Post when most couldn't care less about horse racing? "Oh it's rare." Yeah well so are other games for more obscure systems that don't go for nearly as much. It's yet another example of Western collectors sucking up to the market when really a game like this shouldn't cost anywhere near the current value. Go look on eBay, you can buy the Japanese version right now (EX) for 99 cents. I'm telling you guys, the bubble will eventually burst.
wales2k I got two more to go for the Saturn, dude. Sega Ages, and Shining Wisdom. My wallet feels your wallet’s pain. My wallet is screaming obscenities at me daily. 🤣
It’s why I collect almost exclusively for the Japanese Saturn! The only games I get on NA Saturn are RPGs or games where there’s a ton of dialogue. Super easy to replace the cases.
Limited Run Games made some exact replica replacement cases for those. they also have a stronger sturdy acrylic version thats a little more pricey, but doesn't break near as easily.
RetroMoments It's so worth it. I only had N64 growing up, but burning the games and experiencing Panzer Dragoon Saga was almost as important a gaming memory/experience as when I first played Super Mario 64 at a Toys R Us demo station all those years ago.
MJR about your closing comments, I think it's perfectly okay to do videos regarding the value of games. I spent most of the 90's working in a comic shop and the back issue comic book market was very similar to today's back issue game market. I agree with your point that if you're going to collect something you need to know what the expensive items are going to be. Helps you to be more aware as a collector.
I'm surprised many older comics have gone WAAAAAY down in their value these days considering how popular superheroes are nowadays. I would have figured they would have gone up since people are getting into collecting the comics. Like one of my X-Men comics went from being worth about $40 to like $8 now.
I haven't followed values very much since I got out of comics, I find that surprising too! I think there is a large portion of the movie-going crowd that are new to the mythos and are either unaware or uninterested in their screen hero's comic appearances. When I was selling comics day to day I used to tell our customers to 'buy the character(s) that you like. That way if the value of your comic does not go up it will still be worth something to you.'
I remember playing Magic Knights Reyearth when i was really little, such a great game. I checked the shelf and we still have it! Apparently we also have Panzer Dragoon Saga, Albert Odyssey, and Burning Rangers(still in the wrap). My mom made a pretty good choice going with saturn back in the day i guess O_O
Looking for this really rare SEGA SATURN game called 'Death Cult'. Any help would be appreciated It's one of the puzzles in an ARG ive become involved with ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2c6wj5BnlDk.html&lc=UgwNvBe_jrnoha4j07t4AaABAg
Man I loved my Magic Knight Ray Earth! Sold it nearly 20 years ago for around hundred USD along with my Burning Rangers and Shining Force. I sold my Panzer Dragoon Saga for about 500.
Awesome video. I really need to grab a copy of Albert Odyssey and Magic Knight Rayearth. Like you guys, I thought these games were stupidly expensive 10 years ago but now they are even more so.
The Saturn had some amazing games. I have all the games featured in the video except Daytona USA CCE Netlink. I wish I could find a copy for a reasonable price.
I remember when a Netlink and Datyona were cheap but never picked one up cause didn't know anyone else with a Saturn. Would be cool to pick up a couple Netlinks and Daytonas Netlink edition (and another Saturn) to play multi-player, but would be cost prohibitive these days. I think you could do the same w/Virtual On? (netlink edition)
There are five Netlink compatible games in the US Saturn library: Daytona USA CCE Netlink, Virtual-On Netlink, Sega Rally Championship Netlink, Saturn Bomberman, Duke Nukem 3d. The first three are re-releases of existing games with added Netlink support.
I sadly passed on Daytona netlink many years ago for $250. But last year I finally made a trade for one with a girl locally who literally found it at a play n trade for $10. It was nice to cross the last $100+ Saturn title off the list finally
I was very lucky and got the final four when they released. Magic Knight Ray Earth, Burning Rangers, Shining Force 3, and Panzer Dragoon Saga. All still complete.
I have a complete US Saturn set and 4 copies of Panzer Dragoon Saga (3 sealed) I worked at Toys R Us back then and new that it was limited print.. I had NO IDEA my collection was worth that much... Especially my 2 copies of Daytona USA Netlink Edition... It has all been boxed up forever... I thought my 2 copies of Radiant Silvergun were worth the most... Time to insure all of it... 🤤🤤🤤😲😲😲
According to the internet, one of the issues with Panzer Dragoon Saga not being re-released is, the source code for the game was lost. I have Panzer Dragoon Saga hiding in a closet somewhere, with the box and I think most (possibly all) of the material. Heh
The same thing happened to Ultima 7. The loss/destruction of source code is surprisingly common... Just one of many reasons we should support accurate hardware emulation of classic systems.
Junichi Suto has some coding of the game. It's incomplete, however. I believe it's also an early build of Saga's code anyways, so it's unlikely that they'll ever recreate the game with the original coding.
You just made me so happy. I still have a lot of my Saturn games, and still play them! Now I know I got some value with 'em, makes playing that much sweeter!
I was collecting for Saturn in the early 00’s, quit for a while and just picked it back up recently and I can’t believe how much prices have shot up on a lot of titles! I’m kicking myself for some sales I made 😳
Ryan 551 I feel your pain.... my ex kindly donated my collection to the local charity shop... a few years later I started to start collecting again but the prices.... wow...
@@stonedzombie.996 no kidding. My friend found a box of complete saturn games at a thrift shop including Virtua Fighter 2 remix longbox for dirt cheap last year
Looking for this really rare SEGA SATURN game called 'Death Cult'. Any help would be appreciated It's one of the puzzles in an ARG ive become involved with ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2c6wj5BnlDk.html&lc=UgwNvBe_jrnoha4j07t4AaABAg
On U.S. Saturn most games that are exclusive and good are pricey at this point. Getting a complete version of Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 (together) can run you around $150 bucks or more now. Thank god for the Japanese market
If you are getting Japanese Saturn games, better make sure you look up on Disc rot. It would suck if you you'd buy one of the more expensive games and it turns out to be useless due to the disc being bad.
I have a Saturn since I was a kid. My parents bought me one in highschool back in 96, because I wanted it instead of a PS1 at the time. Most of my friends had a PS1, and whenever they came over to my house we would literally play for entire afternoons, they were amazed at how awesome the games for it were, and how much fun we all had together (the PS1 is obviously a lot of fun too, I love that console as well, as I also collect for it these days), to a point we would have the choice to hook up a PS1, N64 and Saturn on Sunday afternoons, and my poor Saturn was 90% of the time the console hooked up with 5/6 guys playing it, either waiting turns to play a single player game, or together playing MP games. Some of my fondest memories of playing with friends are on the Saturn. Even as a kid I was lucky enough to have quite a big game collection for it, buying quite a few rare games today at launch here in Europe where I live. Sunday afternoon at my parents home meant playing Saturn Bomberman with 2 multi tap adapters (I have one, my friend had another) usually with 7 dudes (and gals!) duking it out for afternoons on end. We even had days where 10 of us were playing that damn game at the same time. It was epic, and I was lucky my parents were cool about the whole thing, my Dad even playing with us sometimes. Epic stuff when you´re a kid. Unlike a lot of my friends, I never sold my Saturn stuff since those days. I still have every single game I ever bought for it, and it was the console that got me into collecting to begin with. I have a humble collection of consoles, only 5 at the moment, but I do have a lot of games for them, but my pride and joy is my Saturn collection. I have ALL 240 games released in this region, and I was lucky to not have spent a fortune on it, since I already own all the "heavy hitters" since I was a kid. Burning Rangers, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Deep Fear (not released in the US, and extremely hard to find on the PAL region), Panzer Dragoon, Panzer Zwei, Die Hard Arcade, Saturn Bomberman, Shining Force 3 and about 70 other games I already had since i was a high school kid and going towards university. How I never sold anything to buy newer consoles is a mistery to me, I could never part with anything Saturn related, felt almost like I was getting rid of part of myself if I did. I´m glad I kept all my stuff, and even happier now that I was able to finish my collection (of PAL releases, Japanese are next) literally 2 weeks ago by tracking down one of the worst Saturn games ever made, The Crow city of angels, to finally own all the games. Felt awesome to be honest. Sorry for the wall of text, and although I am not the biggest console collector out there, not even close, when it comes to the Saturn I know a thing or two, and if you ever need help tracking down a game for it MetalJesus, feel free to ask for my help, or anyone collecting for the console for that matter. Great video as always, and keep it up. I absolutely love the channel.
The Immortal John Hancock has to be the happiest dude on earth, he's all grins. I always love watching his videos and checking out all the cool stuff he has.
Having Panzer Dragoon Saga come in to Games Galore at Jax was a great day. I had saved up so much store credit, and let me tell you having $400 knocked off the price of 550... it feels good.
Radiant Silvergun, a very popular Saturn shooter is really expensive.... and also Shining Force 3 Premium Disc... a bonus disc that came with the Shining Force 3 trilogy... it's not really a game but a database info about the trilogy... is very expensive too.
Just FYI: House of the Dead on Saturn and Dreamcast are different games. Saturn has HotD1 and Dreamcast has HotD2. HotD1 on Saturn is not very good as the Saturn wasn’t great in 3D. It’s polygon count and texture resolution was really poor.
J Kemp Saturn HotD was said to be only 60% complete when it shipped. Tantalus wasn't done yet but Sega told them to wrap it up. That's why the graphics were unfinished. Gameplay is actually 100% intact. Saturn could have done the game justice graphically as it was a Model 2 game and plenty of other Model 2 conversions looked great on Saturn.
Yup this one wasn't the Saturn fault. A proper port could have easily looked as good as Virtua cop 2. Sadly we got a rushed port due to dev teams moving onto Dreamcast. The game is luckily very playable despite the unfinished graphics
I think the Saturn coudn't run Model 2 games very well…. I bought a saturn at launch with daytona usa and it was great but when I played the Model 2 version on pc many years later…. the framerate is 60fps while 25fps on the saturn…. plus the graphic are so much better on the model 2 version…. it's almost night and day.
@@KevenLC Daytona is actually a bad example. It was rushed which is why they released Daytona CCE later on. Better examples would be virtua fighter 2 and virtua cop 2. The best and closest 1:1 polygonal arcade port on the system was die hard arcade imo
@@xDerekRx Indeed, the original Daytona on Saturn was rushed for the Saturn launch. Daytona CCE used the same engine as the Sega Rally port, and looks much better than original Daytona Saturn. Some excellent Model 2-to-Saturn ports include Last Bronx, VF2, Sega Rally, Dead or Alive, Virtual On, Virtua Cop 2, etc. And by excellent ports I mean in terms of a couple thousand dollar arcade board vs. a couple hundred dollar home hardware.