Subaru Forester VS Mazda CX-5 comparison

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This is a Motormouth couple car comparison of the 2022 Subaru Forester and the 2022 Mazda CX-5 compact utility vehciles.The Subaru Forester is over 3.5 inches longer than the Mazda CX-5 and offers over 2 inches more front legroom but have about the same second row legroom. The CX-5 offers more cargo space behind the second row at 30.9 cubic feet compared to the Forester at 26.9 cubic feet. Overall cargo capacity winner is the Forester offering an extra 9.5 cubic feet.The Forester has a 2.5L 4-cylinder engine matched with a CVT, 182 horsepower and 176 lb-ft of torque. Standard AWD. The Mazda CX-5 has two engine options, a 2.5L 4-cylinder with a 6-speed automatic transmission, 187 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque. The turbocharged 4-cylinder with regular fuel has 227 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque. If you use premium, you’ll get a bump in power, 256 horsepower & 320 lb-ft of torque. Standard AWD for 2022. Both crossovers come with similar standard features, Apple Carplay and Android Auto, cloth upholstery, manual driver and passenger seats, LED headlights and LED taillights and 17” wheels. Where the CX-5 shines is with the standard 10.25” display screen, although it’s not a touchscreen and controlled at the centre console dial, it is much larger than the Forester at 6.5” with an available 8” touchscreen. The top trims of both are where you’ll find all those extra features like a wireless charger, heated rear seats and driver seat memory. The Mazda also comes with ventilated front seats, which the Forester doesn’t have but the Forester has an available panoramic sunroof and the CX-5 a moonroof. The Forester has an open and spacious cabin with large doors making it convenient to get car seats, kids and dogs in and out of the vehicle. For 2022, Subaru offers a new optional gesture climate control system, allowing the driver to raise and lower the temperature through hand gestures. We found this to be a bit gimmicky and didn’t always work for us. The Forester comes standard with Apple Carplay and Android Auto, a 6.5” touchscreen, heated manual driver and passenger seats and cloth upholstery. Two up from the base model in Canada offers a lot of value with an 8” touchscreen, power liftgate, heated steering wheel and sunroof. In the US, the panoramic sunroof is standard one up from the base model. The top trims come with features like heated rear seats, a 9-speaker Harman Kardon sound system, leather upholstery, driver seat memory, power passenger seats and navigation. The new Wilderness trim comes with all weather soft touch water repellent upholstery. The Mazda CX-5 offers a sophisticated interior with a touch of elegance. The top trim comes with beautiful, soft Nappa leather upholstery in Cocoa and Abachi wood trim creating an upscale interior that can easily compete with luxury brands. With improved technology, the standard 10.25” centre display with Mazda Connect is intuitive to use and faster than the outgoing model. Mazda focused on creating a quieter cabin by significantly reducing the noise level of tires and wind especially on the highway. Some standard features include, manual driver and passenger seats, Apple Carplay and Android Auto, push button start, and heated cloth front seats. One up from the base model in Canada comes with a power liftgate, leatherette trimmed upholstery, a power driver’s seat, heated steering wheel and a 6 speaker audio system. The Kuro trim and above is where you’ll find driver seat memory and a power passenger seat, leather trimmed upholstery and a 7” LCD display. The top trims have all the extra features like ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, a wireless charger and a Bose sound system. The new Sport Design trim for 2022 ups the sportiness with black leather upholstery with red stitching accents in the cabin. Mazda has improved the comfort level of their seats on this year’s model; there were many complaints that the seats were uncomfortable on long trips.
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@haroldmezile1226 2 года назад

We selected the Mazda 2021. We enjoy the driving dynamics and quiet ride. It has acoustical windows, all wheel drive, a Bose audio system, leather seats, all on the Touring model. The Mazda offers more for less.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing = Andrea

@BilboTBaggins 2 года назад

Forester has parts actually available, insurance is lower. That's what matters

@micah6811 2 года назад

In Hawaii, the top trim CX-5 is $5000 more than the Touring Subaru Forester. Team Forester all the way for me due to its practicality and comfort.

@voyageFN 2 года назад

@@BilboTBaggins Mazda CX-5 has one of the lowest insurance costs in the class and has available parts? Where do you live?

@haroldbeauchamp3770 2 года назад

@@BilboTBaggins you’re going to need those parts too. Subarus are massive piles of crap

@sdc5683 2 года назад

In 2021 my wife and I test drove both the CX5 and the Forester.We chose the CX5 for it's driving dynamics,good looks and better pricing at that time(May 2021).I did like the Forester for it's open feeling interior but the big turn off for me was it's start/stop feature.It was the roughest start /stop I had ever tested.Mazda does not use the start/stop feature at all.We are in our 60's and love the CX5.

@rhomacity 2 года назад

I am on my second Subaru, a 2015 Forester, non turbo. It has performed admirably and i have had no problems with it whatsoever. I was a bit worried about the CVT , but it has been fine. I have not noticed any issues about how it works. My previous Subaru was a Legacy Brighton wagon that did 16 years of service, with lots of trips on woods roads with a canoe on the roof, sometimes mud up to the axles, sometimes on rough gravel. Never got stuck though I did have to replace wheel bearings (once) and u-joints (ditto). I would never have sold it had it not rusted out. Both had ample power and passing speed for my purposes, though I am not a boy racer and could care less about having a turbo.

@ks-bg5uk 2 года назад

Standard AWD , highest resale value, better off road capabilities with x mode, tactile controls, better safety, more leg room makes the Forester the winner. Subaru also makes one of the best CVTs on the market giving an advantage with gas mileage too.

@Mrtellitlikeitis 2 года назад

Pass on the CX5. I’ll take the Beauty CX9, and I don’t care about the 3rd row. Put it down for more cargo. So much better than the 5

@denisemallory9551 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly!

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

I like the CX-9 a lot as well - Andrea

@icehog3454 2 года назад

For my wife the cx5 is the best choice. We love it. 2022 gt sport. Loaded to the nine. Any cargo hauling bigger than groceries we use my truck. These new Mazda’s are so luxurious. We test drove the cx9 but the wife hated it’s size. She was coming from a 2013 mazda 6 so to her her the cx9 felt like a bus. Lol very nice cars however

@peterpalov5157 2 года назад

If I want a sports car with a tailgate I would get a Mazda 3 hatch. I bought the Forester because of it's cargo room, visibility and practicality.

@bradscott3049 2 года назад

Thanks for a great comparison of two excellent vehicles. We have owned a 2011 Forester Touring (268k) since new and a 2019 CX-5 (36k) since new. Both have winter tires the ones on the Forester being 10 year old Toyo's and Michelin X-ice on the Mazda. In my experience the X-ice is the better tire performing well in a wide variety of conditions. The Toyos get pretty slippy in wet conditions but do well in deep snow and cold weather. Value wise, you get a lot with the CX-5 for the money. We got the second from the bottom model (GS) without the extra trim package that comes with the sunroof. Truly amazed at the list of standard features including LED headlights (exceptional), rain sensing wipers, auto dimming headlights, auto up/down on all 4 windows and a very good adaptive cruise control. Also a good suite of safety features including blind spot detection. The CX-5 is significantly quieter than the Forester with it's dated but bulletproof 4 speed auto. Driving the Forester is reminiscent of wearing an old pair of comfortable jeans. Great views out all the windows (The CX-5 feels cavelike) and a nice supple suspension even in it's old age. I think the Forester's full time AWD really contributes to it's handling ability and actually feel more confident flinging it into a corner than the CX-5. I recently had an opportunity to test the CX-5 on greasy/slushy roads at -20 Celsius and was amazed that the back end kicked out unexpectedly about 30 degrees both times I tried it. The Forester consistently provides drama free straight line acceleration under hard acceleration in slippery conditions.Typically the only vehicle that will pull away faster than me in snowy conditions is another Subaru - I typically drive moderately but it's hard to resist the Forester's AWD capability. My Subaru lasted pretty much trouble free to the 250k kilometer mark although I chose not to do a number of expensive maintenance items incudeing front and rear suspension components. The coupling between the front and rear transaxle failed sometime after 200k and cost ~$1,300 to replace. In addition I have several thousand dollars of outstanding repairs that are needed. However, as long as the car is running fine I will continue to drive it and am not likely to invest more money in repairs at this point. So despite my fondness for our 2011Forester, it may be the last one I own. Toyota and Honda offer great alternatives, but none of them provide the list of standard features you find in a CX-5 in it's second lowest trim level. Plus the interior finish, quiet interior and conventional transmission, not to mention handling make it an attractive choice. The CX-5 has the best auto transmission (6 speed) I've ever driven. I like that I can feel it downshift as I slow to a stop.

@Jorge_Magallon 2 года назад

Without a doubt the Mazda. Looks inside and out, driving dynamics, real auto vs CVT, available turbo. It’s not even close.

@seikocitizenwatches 2 года назад

Urban driving yes, Mazda is more elegant, more power options and better handling dynamic on dry roads but for outdoor activity enthusiasts driving into the wilderness , desert trails, snowy mountain roads, Subaru Symmetrical AWD is unchallenged. Subaru Asymmetrical AWD wins every single test against any compact SUV or sedan regardless of price. Not all AWDs are created equal.

@braydonwen3852 2 года назад

@@seikocitizenwatches literally nearly every awd suv in that class with decent snow tire can perform good in snow.

@captainkangaroo4301 Год назад

It depends where you live. So far this season we’ve had 49” of snow in Minneapolis and it’s only mid January. So it is close.

@toddbowser9415 Год назад

@@seikocitizenwatches Yeah the CX5 doesn’t have a oil consumption problem! Been a Subaru owner for years, now I’m done because of their oil consumption problem

@nunnayobidness8064 2 года назад

We've owned our 2021 CX-5 GT premier for about a month and couldn't be happier!!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Congratulations, glad you are enjoying it.

@Ron28 2 года назад

I live in mountainous snow country. Owned two Forestors. Now have a CX5. See no difference on snow or ice with quality snow tires. On the Forestors the engine noise after 80k drove me crazy. Don't know if this is still an issue. The CX5 excells when it comes to driving at night on country roads. My favorite feature is the automatic high beam.

@feabicyoplung 2 года назад

Test drove 2021 Rav4 Prime - view out front window interrupted by A pillar, noisy over bumps, uncomfortable head rests. 2021 Mazda CX-5 - Great driving experience but it felt so claustrophobic and not enough driver side leg room. 2022 Subaru Forester - Ordered the Touring in Green.

@travisjh9796 2 года назад

Went from a 2018 Nissan Qashqai to a 2022 Forester touring model (Canada). The moment i sat in the forester the visibility and the amount of room had me sold. More recently with all the snow in Ontario I feel even better about my decision! Fast enough for most daily driving activities IMO. I also wouldn’t wanna constantly pay for premium gas.

@ikeyoung149 2 года назад

I can say I’m a Mazda fanboy we have a 21 cx9 carbon edition and a 21 cx5 gt premium and I couldn’t be more pleased with either of them. They have been some of the greatest cars I’ve owned. I love your guys videos and look forward to the daily uploads keep up the great work in these crazy times!!!!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you for the kinds words and great feedback. It's very rare to hear from a follower who owns a Mazda that they aren't happy. Most love their purchase.

@williamcass68 2 года назад

Excellent comparison! I love my 2017 Forester(base model). My wife loves her 2019 CX5(signature) with heated/ventilated seats and heated steering wheel…and Bose speakers. Two very different vehicles that are appealing for different reasons.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Absolutely, great points. Thanks for watching.

@liujun050612 2 года назад

What a huge snow yesterday in Toronto and my forester had done its job! I saw so many cars stucked in the snow but my forester still keep moving! Although still late, better than absent working the whole day! Glad made the forester last August.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

I also found it to be excellent in the snow. Stay safe!

@jillthompson6110 2 года назад

Sure, you may need that Subaru AWD once or twice a year during winter time But if I lived in a city, I'd rather buy a car that I can actually enjoy driving for 99.99% of the year, knowing that the famous Subaru AWD is a non-factor during most of the city driving.

@NR-it3pc 2 года назад

Owned a subaru Impreza that started to have transmisson problems (torque binding issues) at only 65000Km. Just purchased a 2022 Mazda CX-5. I love the 6-speed automatic transmission and the above average reliability.

@Subie-Driver 2 года назад

Over the years we’ve had four Subarus. Two of those were foresters…a 1998 and a 2001. They were early models but were great for their time and as Andrea said, with a get set of snow tires will go through just about anything. The forester is on the list when we go to replace our 2011 outback…if it ever dies.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@andrewleventis8341 2 года назад

Ive just upgraded from an X3(wife) and X5(mine) to a Forrester and Outback and soooooo happy with the massive saving and Im sure longer life from these wonderful cars...

@vihtoripuurola3775 2 года назад

The CVT is a big buzz kill for me. Love the turbo and 6 speed transmission in the CX-5. Really looking hard at it for the next year.

@barberdean4714 2 года назад

Another great review. I recently watched your previous review on the 2021 Subaru Forester Sport (July 3rd, 2021). After watching your review, I was able to secure a 2022 Crystal White Forester Sport for my wife from our local Subaru dealer's incoming allocation. I agree with all the points you brought up in this review. As a driving enthusiast, I'd opt for the CX-5 turbo, but my wife is more of a function over form individual when it comes to cars, and prioritizes the practicality of the Forester. Thanks again and I wish you both continued success.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you so much, both are great crossovers, it just depends what you are looking for like you said.

@jasonrebelo181 2 года назад

Great fair comparison, I CAN comment from the both perspective, the lady has forester and I, the Mazda. These vehicles they are SO SO SO different in many ways yet commonly compared, there are pros and cons when comparing to each other you did good job at that for sure your final thoughts were pretty spot on (NOT THE FUEL, i have no idea why, but our REAL WORLD fuel economy after 16k-km of driving is average 10.1 in the forester (we are so confused by this i guess 65% city :S) get about the same in the turbo CX-5 with way more power but have demo'd many N/a skyactivs around 9L/100 real world avg. I cannot begin to tell the objective/subjective differences between these. They really are just DIFFERENT approaches to a SIMILAR sized vehicle but Subaru FEELS and is BIGGER. There is a major difference in how GOOD Mazda's trans is (despite so many tubers calling it old or needing more gears?*? has a 5 yr unlimited Km warranty, used in every car they sell for 10 years [not in Miata setup] and proven to climb the ranks as consumer reports the most reliable powertrain in the industry as it stands). I have to slam the brakes in the forester so often on the highway and service roads because it doesn't engine brake at all with that trans it keeps accelerating and it drives me NUTS and frankly I find it dangerous in comparison (fender bender risks with bad brake hwy drivers) and certainly annoying when going back to back and the amount of pedal input required compared to the sportier drive of the Mazda, id still take Subaru over Nissan or Honda from a capability point of view (those two dominate the size argument these days to be fair) the Subaru is amazing in bad weather, like really really amazing if you have never driven one in a snow storm go to your dealer and test drive during fresh snow you will be impressed by the confidence the vehicles have. Anyways this is already too long, ask me a question if you want... don't think i made my point but, BOTH ARE AWESOME in their class, I WORK AT A MAZDA/SUBARU DEALER*** personal opinions here with many many hours and camping trips in both vehicles. ones got better trans, ones got the edge in hills and weather (CX-5 is 2nd in this regard marginally) One feels better to drive/fun, one offers more utility the forester is way better at reno store runs due to length (wood and trim fit better less damage worry) one has great Bose sound, the other.. oh god not even close... also on that note - there's a huge difference in road noise levels like Toyota meets Lexus level of difference Hmmm this feels like I'm harping on the forester but not my intention, i love the vehicle for many attributes it has but when comparing the CX-5 only some areas are better in Subaru, most are overall better in the Mazda SPECIALLY the driving (which is what you do with these machines - the drive is much much more rewarding and refined in the Mazda) AFTER reading/ SAYING THIS, i would never say this in store as it comes off too blunt/ not professional but i hope you get my tone is - to each their own, after much time with both now, id say CX-5 for me, and yes the CVT is a huge factor (Subaru is still one of the best with its 1st gearing setup and amazing on steep hills) but still nothing beats this ORDER FOR ME a stick, then an auto-torque converter, then dual clutch, then gear-to-CVT, then CVT... IMO for real world ALL ROUND usage. possible buyers you'll be happy with either just go drive them and see for yourself what suits your needs ;)

@aljeanalejo7037 Год назад

Is 2023 Mazda CX-5 carbon edition good to drive in snow??

@gbhrps 2 года назад

A 2019 Forester LTD (H4) and a 2017 OutBack Premier (H4) are our daily drivers presently, and my Bride and I have owned 4 previous OutBack's since 1998. There are 3 other subies in the family as well. They all have proven dependable, are crazy glued to the road with proper ice grip snow tires in winter, and when driven intelligently, yield excellent fuel mileage. Buy when they are a year or two old (let the first owner take the biggest depreciation hit), and then trade up to the next one before it hits 120 000 kms (banks won't finance a used car with over 120 000 kms in our province for the most part), and stay ahead of the money pit at the beginning and the end of the car ownership game. Great cars, even if they label you as a little boring.

@saltyt.1886 2 года назад

You guys are the BEST! Love your comparisons….and that Andrea is a Mazda Fan Girl!

@saltyt.1886 2 года назад

Can’t wait for the Forester retest against the CX-50 when it comes out!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you, really glad you are enjoying them. Helps people buy cars and decide which one is better for their lifestyle. With the shortage, some can't even drive the vehicle before ordering it. There are no demos available so reviews have become even more important.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

@@saltyt.1886 Looking forward to driving the CX-50, should be a good one.

@vinnie4400 2 года назад

I stumbled into a 2008 Mazda3 GT loaded up to max spec with a manual tranny. 60,000 miles later I lost the use of my left leg...and I hated the fact that I had to give that car up. It was my favorite car ever, but it had to go. So I ended up with a 2012 3 GT, and now my youngest child drives it in college with about 125k miles. Only difference is the automatic. I bought a 2016 Mazda6 GT with all options, and tbh, I figured that might be my last new car. I finally broke down, however, after more health issues and caring for a parent made me consider a "CUV" or whatever the U.S. calls a raised station wagon these days. I ended up buying a nearly new 2019 CX-5. I didn't need AWD, but I wanted the "GT premium package" for the ventilated seats, htd steering wheel, and HUD on windshield. It was worth it, and I got it just before car prices went crazy. All I can relate to is Mazda. Same engine and tranny as all the NA Mazda's outside of the Miata. My 4 Mazda's have never cost me anything outside of routine maintenance; have all gotten great gas mileage, have all had plenty of space for me +1 or 2; and they have all been fun to drive. I love the safety tech and creature comforts, too. The CX-50 - 70 models might tempt me again a few years down the road, but for the past 15 years, Mazda has delivered for me. When I was younger, with a family and love for all things outdoors, I would have looked at the Subaru for sure. These days, I am also in a position to have vehicles for me only...no spouse input for "my" car decisions. I love the way Mazda's drive, and it's just something you either feel immediately...or it doesn't matter to you. Great comparison video and comments, too.

@marc-andreluce3800 2 года назад

I own a 2019 Mazda CX-5 Signature. At the time I've compared to the Kia Sportage with the base engine and the Volkswagen Tiguan. Subaru was in my radar but heard some maintenance price would be pricy (over 700$ depending the # for the service). I've end up shousing the CX-5 for a multiple of factors, specialy for its fun to drive. Really impress with the AWD too of Mazda.

@jackbrown1813 2 года назад

Great objective review. Having owned a 2014 Forester and now a 2020 CX-5 it is though your review spoke directly to me. There is no disputing that when it comes to blindspots the Forester was probably the best vehicle I have ever driven. However, (and this is not directly addressed in a new vehicle comparison) the long-term issues that we endured with the Forester are something that does not usually come up in such comparions. Some of the problems were covered by warranty (and some were not)--dead battery,two rear axle bearings, a right front axle replacement, driver's seat seam separation, rear hatch support, not to mention oil consumption that was not considered excessive enough by Subaru to be deemed "problematic", etc. I had hoped that we had "turned the corner" with the Forester when my wife noticed yet another "noise". That was it. We decided we had had enough of the myriad of problems encountered with the Forester and it spite of how we both seemed to like driving it, it was just to problematic to keep spending increasing amounts of money to keep it on the road. What to do? We decided to look at the Mazda. The one qualifier is that my wife had to like driving the car. We test drove the Mazda and it passed muster by the boss so we purchased it. I wasn't sure whether I liked it or not but having driven a fair number of vehicles in my life, I decided that it was okay. After a year and a half of driving, I am now convinced that the Mazda is a great car and I certainly do not miss the frequent trips back to the dealership for yet another disappointing problem . Nice to only have to go to the service department for regular service. For one thing, I find it much quieter than the Forester. As far as winter driving, I have experienced few issues. (as I thought the Forester would be a far superior performer in the winter than the Mazda but that has not been the case) We do run winter tires (and did on the Forester as well) and I think they are well worth it for driving in Canada. The blindspots? Well the CX-5 has some very good monitoring devices and while I do not like to depend on such technology I do appreciate the fact that they greatly enhance driving safety.

@scaldon2 2 года назад

Seems I've you had a lot of problems with subaru forester. I was considering buying one but I heard that subaru has alot of quality control issues. Bought a lexus nx instead . Reliability is important to me

@joeanunez 2 года назад

The comparison I’ve been waiting for! Great job!! I have CX-30 Turbo Premium Plus in Soul Red with black wheels. It’s gorgeous and fun to drive!

@The314moses 2 года назад

Just drove home a 2021 Forester Limited yesterday. I think I'm going to be very happy with it for a long time.

@GOLFADDICT65 2 года назад

AWESOME review...you guys rock , love your reviews....i am 57 so i think the smarter way to go is the Subaru ( more economic , best awd system all around super safe vehicle ) don't get me wrong the Mazda is a very nice vehicle....i would tint the windows of the Forester and two sets of tires ( winter and all seasons )...cheers you guys be safe

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you very much, really glad you enjoyed it.

@TeamGun 2 года назад

I love my 2018 Outback 3.6R trim. 250hp/250tq n/a power, no stop and go, and the thing is just a beast in the snow and off road.

@ZuMi_rcf 2 года назад

Great comparison! Our family bought the 2017 Forester back then since my wife loved it... unfortunately, I ask her each year if we can change it! Ugh. Functionality is great....but please, update the form a bit more!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Haha, glad your wife is enjoying her Forester.

@joebruhin2098 2 года назад

The forester is without question the more functional, practical choice...the CX5 more seductive...if you enjoy driving and test them both the Mazda will win your heart, it simply is more elegant.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Beautiful exterior and interior 👌

@Bluesphan 2 года назад

Great review - love all the work you guys do! I think you hit the nail on the head with this comparison - it's like comparing apples (driving dynamics) to oranges (practicality). I agree that the Mazda may have better exterior styling, but I happen to actually prefer the interior look of the Forester over the "more elegant" Mazda... but that's a personal choice based on watching the video. I may have a different opinion when I see these vehicles in person. Can't wait for car shows to start up again - I sure miss those!

@rhomacity 2 года назад

Oh, and my wife is on her second Subaru. The first was a legacy wagon that lasted over 10 years, the present one is a 2008 Legacy sedan that has worked brilliantly.

@wingmanhoy3999 2 года назад

Great review, I really love my Forester for here in New England winters, its amazing in the snow and off road, traction is just nothing short of phenomenal and does everything beautifully for me, I am averaging 33 mpg, over 500 miles on a tank of gas which is incredible in my humble opinion, all the very best.

@eamonnmcdermott1939 2 года назад

Great comparison and I like the correct pronunciation of Mazda! The Mazda is the winner for me!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@stephensavic9779 2 года назад

I just ordered a Forrester Touring 2022 and it does come with ventilated seats . The Touring model comes with all the extras. I traded my 2011 Outback Premium with 100,000 miles on it.

@natesnj 2 года назад

When I test drove the 2021 CX5 I experienced significant torque steer that intruded on my driving experience. That and the practicality are reasons why I chose the Outback XT. I noticed car reviewers never mention the torque steer.

@ahudson1164 2 года назад

I noticed this very same torque steer issue with a test drive of a CX-5 (2022). Thinking of going with the Forester.

@judih.8754 2 года назад

Maaaazda or Mawsda? You are funny! That screen growing out of the dash on the CX-5 is a show stopper for me.

@enligh10ed8 2 года назад

Wow! You really do read all of the comments, I love that. I'm American, so I appreciate the translation. I will try to start saying Mazzda and will just shake my head when I hear my brethren call it Mozda. The Forester was at the top of my list of SUVs until I found the CX-5. Wasn't even on my radar, but I pulled the trigger and have loved it so far. You do seem to get a lot for you dollar with Moz... sorry, Mazzda, but I think I would love the Forester just as much. Thank you both for the great reviews

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

We really love hearing from everyone, thanks for the feedback, glad you are enjoying your CX-5. - Andrea

@westcoast708 2 года назад

I have always been a fan of suburu cvt or not suburu awd is amazing..

@000T00b 2 года назад

I love my CX5. In South Africa, I have the base model with 2.0 litre non turbo. My overall average is 7.1 l/100km combined. I only wish we had the 2.5 turbo ! I respect the Subarus off road capability and practicality, but the car has a face only a mother would love ! I love the inside and the outside of my Mazda, and is the best choice for me, but if I had a family I may have gone the other way. I too can’t wait to see if the CX50 will be launched in SA.

@randyprice1831 2 года назад

I bought a '21 Forester Sport last October. I live in the US and all cars/trucks are hard to find. I've been happy with the Forester. We also have a Rav4 in our family and it's a great small SUV too.

@tammyeaton4791 2 года назад

I chose the CX-5 because of the smoothness of the shifting, the quietness of the cabin and the STANDARD safety features I’d have to PAY MORE from Ford.

@Doc1855 2 года назад

I really like the body style of the Mazda, but I’ve had 2 Mazda’s and they were in the repair shop Continuously. We love my wife’s Outback.

@kentgabriel3572 2 года назад

Thanks for the "translation" on the Mazda name 😂 Love your quick wit!

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

haha, I know the way we say Mazda is really annoying to our American friends - Andrea

@jimb5512 2 года назад

I bought the Forester Wilderness model. I'm 6'3" tall and 275lb. and getting in and out of the Forester is so easy, with a ton of headroom. Inside it's really roomie and also has plenty of head and leg room in the back seat. I can sit back there comfortably. The Mazda is just to tiny. Size maters. The Forester has a very large sunroof, which I really appreciate, and find the front facing camera really comes in handy. The 9 speaker Harmon Kardon audio system sounds great. The seats are very comfortable, easy to clean and waterproof. The backseat has it's own climate controls with 2 usb ports. The downside is it's underpowered and the Mazda is more pleasing to the eye. But, I can live happily with that.

@trevorscott4145 2 года назад

Just took delivery of a CX5 AWD GT, great car, cannot fault it.

@brentrobinson5918 2 года назад

It's to bad that Mazda didn't change the console/arm rest to be like the CX30 as you can't rest your arm on it when driving. Love the vented seats which for me are an absolute must.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Yes, many can't live without ventilated seats, thanks for watching! - Andrea

@jasonrebelo181 2 года назад

chassis 6.5 gen Mazda's(CX-5) have the cup holders behind shifters (this is why on CX-5 its further back) the M3, CX-30, CX-50 share same 7th gen chassis and the cup holders are in front of the shifter (bringing the armrest farther forward for these vehicle).

@isimokov 2 года назад

Cx5 turbo is the best compact SUV for the money.

@GISJIng 2 года назад

Between the two I'd probably go with the Mazda, Forester looks ugly to me and it has the CVT.

@raymondhachmishvili2483 2 года назад

Love my 2016 CX5 Also loved my previous 2008 mazda 6, 2011 mazda 6, 2014 Mazda 3

@maxt3590 2 года назад

Between the two I decided on the Forester, as the interior of the CX5 felt dungeon-y and coffin-like. I found the visibility in the Forester better as it doesn't hunch down, and the cabin felt a lot more spacious. I do wish it had more horsepower though, the passing power is not great and it does feel slow, which I knrew before but the pros outweighed the cons.

@judgeadvocate9275 2 года назад

The only negative I find with the CX-5 is the rear view and blind spots. So I drive with the back seat folded down, since it's rarely used. The view is a lot better then. I'm a claustrophobic kind of person, but the interior is very comfortable to me. I was actually thinking about getting a Subaru... a Forester or Outback, but the CVTs forced me to disregard them. And when Subaru has recalls, they are usually very expensive recalls. The Engine's head gasket problems in the past was worrisome, and their solution to fix it, using an oil additive seemed like a very cheap fix, but not a permanent fix.

@you-are-creative 2 года назад

Just so you know, your video make me happy :)

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you so much!

@sachaverville12 2 года назад

I bought a Forester 2021 and i love it, but it would be better with a automatic transmission.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

I really enjoyed the Forester, great SUV.

@bbhurst65 Год назад

Great review, thank you. I truly wish Subaru still had a turbo Forester. That would suit me perfectly. Love the visibility of the Forester. Husband isn't a fan of CVTs (even though we bought an Outback in 2012--gave it to our son, so we no longer have it).

@Doc1855 Год назад

My wife loves her Outback and I love my Forester Touring, (Premiere in Canada).

@TheBanditKingKir 2 года назад

Lmao first thing on my mind was "what's a 'Maaazda'?" Hilarious you addressed that right away. Well done.

@chadwynne7278 2 года назад

Great video. Thank you. I've been really struggling with which to buy, but as tall person who likes practicality and visibility, I'm going to stick with the Forester. Also, loved seeing the views of Vancouver. Can't wait to visit again, in my new Forester.

@dennissvitak6453 2 года назад

My brand new CX-5 has a spare tire. I LOVE that.

@elsaandnoah 2 года назад

Hi from Vancouver 🇨🇦 I’m driving a 2011 Forester with very low mileage and I plan on letting my son have this car once he gets his drivers license. I’m having such a tough time deciding what’s next for me! So much competition in this category!

@uniquelypositive 2 года назад

With a good set of winter tires the Mazda will be just as capable in snow. I would take the Mazda for its quality, driving dynamics and automatic transmission

@haroldbeauchamp3770 2 года назад

Just as capable? The Mazda will more than exceed any Subaru with its horrific cvt. Cvt’s simply cannot allocate torque like a traditional automatic. The Mazda is the far better choice.

@judgeadvocate9275 2 года назад

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 I'll take Mazda's 6-speed automatic over the CVT always, and over the Toyota 8 speed automatics, the 9-speeds, and 10-speeds, also.

@Jeo-What 2 года назад

I want a... Forester CX-5... LOL!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Haha 👌

@slighwentwalking2024 2 года назад

...perhaps it just requires the phrase that pays. I do like both, Subaru or Mazda seem like good choices.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Can't go wrong with either really.

@1linkbelt 2 года назад

The Forester has better visibility than the Mazda, but the Mazda has a classy look. The Forester would be better for senior drivers.

@A3A4Tom 2 года назад

Another great comparison. As I have recommended many friends to go for Forester, because of its pro-active AWD and fish bowl visibility. Another major reason they went for Forester was because of the XT turbo in previous generation. While current generation's interior ambience and SGP have improved so much, the lack of optional turbo engine have missed the boat. That makes CX-5 remains unbeatable, dynamically speaking. However, for those looking for AWD transportation, Forester would suit them perfectly.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Thanks for watching - Andrea

@eric000 2 года назад

7:47 Zack is showing his wrist while pointing the fist upwards, while Andrea is pointing her fist at the sensor and not showing the wrist to the sensor/ camera. Maybe try it that way. But If the smaller fist is stopping the temp control from working then Subaru messed up. It will be a good gesture if they fix it. If the temp control works on image recognition they can retrain the model and update the software, else they can replace the sensor.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Zack seemed to have more luck than me when turning the temperature down. It was fun any way!

@Sportimus 2 года назад

Forester is dreadfully slow. CX-5 Turbo would be my choice of the two. No touch screen but I can live with that.

@kiwikami 2 года назад

Thank you for this review! If I want better tractions on slippery roads in the winter, and assuming I am using equally good snow tires, should I choose the Forester over the CX-5 or the RAV4 ? It's for a new driver, so we choose safety first. Which SUV in this price range has a smarter traction control?

@adrianviera4239 2 года назад

Subaru Crosstrek or Forester hands down. Reliable, maintains resale value, and constantly rated as one of the safest cars.

@wayneyoung146 2 года назад

I have always like Torque. Mazda wins for me

@rohitrao3083 2 года назад

I have always loved your reviews and have seen every single video you release. This, my friends, isn’t an apple to apple comparison :-)

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

That's the whole point, we compare vehicles for people to decide. This lays it all out.

@rohitrao3083 2 года назад

And your reviews are pretty awesome!!

@pankajnalavde 2 года назад

Where the Mazda's CX series design exudes elegance, and retrain that will age well, Subaru just look lost with their aesthetics choices and proportions, too much plastic trying to make it look rugged ? weird concept, but agreed that the interior visibility is amazing. A colleague just got the Signature edition and it really feels like a luxury car. Great comparison vide, thanks guys.

@avetikharutyunyants9868 2 года назад

Great review!!! Thanks!!!

@stephengneri2136 2 года назад

love you guys !!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you!

@telliesmith9825 2 года назад

I actually like the interior of the Subaru better than the Mazda but I do like the exterior of the Mazda it's real grown and sexy haha

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

I've definitely heard that before!

@powertools2375 5 месяцев назад

I like the Mazda BUT getting in/out of the vehicle is odd and I bump my head. Got a forester

@henryrestrepo8214 2 года назад

I am a Mazda guy ! I love the CX-5 but I’m dying to see the new XC-50

@Sam-jm6yc 2 года назад

I own the CX5 2019 signature and I have to say that I regretted. I only have about 25,000 km on it and had already changed my rear brakes rotors and pads. It is true that the seats are very uncomfortable. I'm average build and find the seat to small. I like the extra options but still feels like a Mazda to me coming from an Infiniti before purchasing the Mazda. At that time I was between the Forester and CX5 and should have gone with the Forester Premier mainly for its visibility, space, ground clearance and comfort. The only reason that I'm still waiting to change is that I have a feeling they will change the interior with the one in the Outback and bringing back the XT.

@mcarlkv53 2 года назад

when the mazda cx-50 comes out, its goodbye to every other suv...

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Can't wait to drive it!

@xlprincess123567 2 года назад

I have a 2020 forester touring the top of the line with brown leather that I love. I live in upstate New York and I am looking forward to the new redesign to come out in a year in a half. Currently I love driving my forester and the mpg. I don’t care that it has a CVT it doesn’t bother me.

@oldatarigamer 2 года назад

The comparison I'd like to see if the top trim CX-5 vs the RDX. As for this comparison, the Forester has the best visibility of any CUV and lots of function. I like the looks. I do love Mazda because of their attention to detail, fun to drive characteristics and build quality but they shade more towards form over function.

@mariancoke3139 Год назад

Great review. Thanks. Can you please tell me which of these cars would be more comfortable on long drives? I’ll buy the one with more comfortable seats, a plush, forgiving ride and is quiet. I have a bad back and need comfort. Thanks.

@Richardak600 2 года назад

Looking forward to a comparison between the forester and the soon to be released Mazda cx 50.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Can't wait to drive the new CX-50!

@RangerRickTV 2 года назад

What would make it to 300k miles with no major issues?

@keithball6480 2 года назад

I love the additional legroom and headroom in the Forester. The large windows and large sunroof makes for an airy feel. I really don't know why folks get hung up over CVT or automatic trannys. Not much difference really.

@alvinsimba734 2 года назад

Right especially with cvts... people need to realise most manufacturers are going the cvt route regardless

@jasonrebelo181 2 года назад

I CAN comment from the other perspective, the lady has forester and i, the Mazda, there is no comparison to these vehicles they are SO SO SO different in every way yet commonly compared, there are pros and cons in that way (watched video as suggested to by RU-vid, disclaimer i work at a Mazda/Subaru dealer in my town) i cannot begin to tell the objective/subjective differences between these. they really are just DIFFERENT approaches to a SIMILAR sized vehicle. BUT i digress yes there is a major difference in how GOOD Mazda's trans is (despite so many tubers calling it old or needing more gears?*? has a 5 yr unlimited Km warranty, used in every car they sell for 10 years [not in Miata setup] and proven to climb the ranks as consumer reports the most reliable powertrain in the industry as it stands). i have to slam the brakes in the forester so often on the highway and service roads because it doesn't engine brake at all with that trans it keeps accelerating and it drives me NUTS and frankly i find it dangerous in comparison, id still take it over Nissan or Honda from a capability point of view the Subaru is amazing in bad weather, like really really amazing if you have never driven one in a snow storm go to your dealer and test drive during fresh snow you will be impressed by the confidence the vehicles have. Anyways this is already too long, ask me a question if you want... don't think i made my point but, BOTH ARE AWESOME in their class, ones got better trans, ones got the edge in hills and weather (CX-5 is 2nd in this regard marginally) One feels better to drive/fun, one offers more utility the forester is way better at reno store runs due to length one has great Bose sound, the other.. oh god not even close... also on that note - there's a huge difference in road noise levels like Toyota meets Lexus level of difference this feels like I'm harping on the forester but im not, i love the vehicle for many attributes it has but when comparing the CX-5 only some areas are better in subaru, most are overall better in the Mazda SPECIALLY the driving (which is what you do with these machines - the drive is much much more rewarding and refined in the Mazda) AFTER reading/ SAYING THIS, i would never say this in store as it comes off too blunt/ not professional but i hope you get my tone is - to each their own, after a year with both now, id say CX-5 for me, and yes the CVT is a huge factor (Subaru is still one of the best with its 1st gearing setup) but still nothing beats a stick, then an auto torque converter, then dual clutch, then gear-to-CVT, then CVT... IMO for real world ALL ROUND usage.

@alvinsimba734 2 года назад

@@jasonrebelo181 mazdas do drive differently compared to any vehicle with a cvt and also I just find mazdas in general fun to drive when it comes to dynamics. Some vehicles are appliances like the toyota which I currently drive as I have two of them. I also like Subaru for different reasons but normally it's the price that rules me out for ever owning one. If they were cheaper, could give it a go. Mazdas have been improving with time. In their engines just like toyotas do not fix what's not broken is their mantra

@keithball6480 2 года назад

@@jasonrebelo181 Thanks for writing. Living in Canada, the standard motor for the Forester is the 2.4l 184 HP. I would think the smaller 148 HP auto /CVTwould be inadequate so a is manual necessary. 95% of North Americans drive auto/CVT transmissions, so it looks like the CVT is going to the engine of choice (or no choice) in the colonies. Being 6 foot 2 inches, I fit much better with Forester than the Mazda, so that and sight lines made the boxy Forester a better choice for me. Until recently I also owed 2010 Subaru Outback with 3.6 litre, 256 HP, 5 gear automatic. That was a great drive. Very smooth and very good gas mileage on the highway, though I wished in had another gear.

@tails300 2 года назад

@@jasonrebelo181 Subaru’s CVT doesn’t have a first gear, you’re thinking of Toyota.

@HoangLe-nw4xg 2 года назад

thanks

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@artchiu584 2 года назад

always not a fan of cvt...with fuel prices are raising (a highly manipulative commodity), fuel savings is thrown out of the equation. I will wait for more new models coming out. Even Mazda is sticking with a 6 speed auto rather than going to CVT.

@haroldbeauchamp3770 2 года назад

Mazda is the clear choice for reliability and performance. The Subaru cvt is a failure waiting to happen.

@kellingtonlink956 2 года назад

Before Subaru decided to run ad campaigns targeting this new group of ‘urban adventurers’ they targeted up and coming professionals.... predominantly... Lesbians. And I will always support the lesbians. So between the two great CUV’s... I’d have to go with the Forester. That and it looks better, inside and out. Thanks for the video.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@10OF9OFBORG 2 года назад

An awesome video Andrea! With a snowstorm we had yesterday, I think Forester is a winner. Too bad only thing is touchscreen is small. They should consider make it bigger. 👍🏻👍🏻

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Yes, you definitely could use a vehicle with great ground clearance for the storm, hopefully you won't get too much tomorrow.

@luizucchetto2528 2 года назад

Remember you also get another smaller display above the touch screen in the Forester.

@luctremblay1868 2 года назад

Very good video comparison.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

Thank you so much!

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@paulpuglia8480 2 года назад

I'm the more (Practical) person it was a hard decision between the Mazda and the Forester, I'm the type of person that looks at the Biggest Bang for the Buck and I went for the Forrester I can care less about Turbo it's very hard on 4 cylinder engines not big I'm on off roading, the only thing I care about really is towing my Sea Doo FishPro Trophy jetski l which is overall with trailer and jetski 1150 pounds give or take a few pounds. OH! in Michigan we pronounced Mazda - Mosda LOL. I understand I get it I dated a French Canadian girl she lived in Windsor and she had that French Canadian accent for example she says grade 8 we say in the states 8th grade lol. You 2 do a great job your very thorough you always give it in the metric and in U.S thank you that's important. Keep up the good work stay safe God-bless ciao for now.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Hi there, it's Andrea, thank you very much for the kind words, we definitely try to do both and even break down some of the packages in the US too. I know, the way I say Mazda drives our US followers nuts! lol! I think you made a good choice with the Forester, it's a great vehicle.

@tlutzy 2 года назад

In terms of design, value and elegance, I much prefer the 2022 Mazda 2.5T Signature trim. To me, it's just more fun to drive, too. And, I do not like CVTs.

@novercalis4846 2 года назад

Curious - What vehicle are you guys in during this video? I am curious to know cause of the double moon roof it seems.

@King_Kenny66 2 года назад

Good job guys! :D

@kuladeeluxe 2 года назад

As an 07 Forester XT owner, I was hoping that the Mazda would top it in all regards. The problem I had with the CX5 Turbo was that it had a lot of torque steer if you get on the gas coming out of a corner. If driven 7/10ths it is good. 8/10ths not so good. It gets crashy in the front end. The other problem on the one I drove (a 2020)...was that the seats had zero bolster and I was sliding around. Liked it a lot otherwise. Wish someone would make a reasonably priced performance small SUV. Just going to rebuild my veteran with 316,000 K and hope it gets me to the vehicle I am describing. I bought a brand new Outback XT last year and returned it after 250 miles because I missed my perfect sized Forester.

@natesnj 2 года назад

I agree with your comment on the torque steer. It's the reason why I went with the Outback XT. I haven't seen any reviewers mention the torque steer. I wonder why.

@Motormouth... 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing! - Andrea

@akalrove4834 2 года назад

How did you return a used car? Is that something you can do in Canada?

@kuladeeluxe 2 года назад

@@akalrove4834 Dealer took it back and I bought something else off them. Cost me money unfortunately. It was a good car, but not my size, weight, handling preference. Sold very fast I'm sure in this market.

@kuladeeluxe 2 года назад

@@natesnj As a former Outback XT owner (2021) I can vouch that It did not have torque steer at all. . Subaru uses equal length axles. They are a very comfy vehicle compared to an old Forester.

@dilippatel7588 2 года назад

Great review. We really enjoy our 2017 CX-9. Now looking for a compact suv with good driving dynamics. We are trying to decide between CX-5 Signature and BMW X3. We like the X3 but concerned about the reliability. CX-5 seems to be a great value but don't know how the drive will compare to X3.

@vince7349 2 года назад

Theres quite in difference in price between cx5 and x3.

@anticalgary 2 года назад

I traded my CX-5 GT for an Outback Wilderness. The big reason I didn’t stay with the CX-5 or upgrade to the Turbo was the extremely uncomfortable seats and also just wanted a little more space.I’m happy to hear they addressed the seats. I’m curious about the upcoming CX-50, maybe I should have waited? At least the Outback Wilderness is an excellent vehicle I am very happy.

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

You made a great choice but I am also interested in the CX-50.

@enligh10ed8 2 года назад

@@andreaspencer9813 Me three! Enjoy the Wilderness!

@andreaspencer9813 2 года назад

@@enligh10ed8 Thank you!

@chief8079 2 года назад

The CX-50 still looks too small compared to the CR-V's, Rogue's, RAV4's, and Forester's of the world.

@deshanchathura Год назад

Can someone with a Subaru Forester with a model after year 2018 please tell me the reliability of its CVT?

@reecetbobby5347 2 года назад

Mazda is turning into a luxury brand and you can see that in the interiors already. Subaru is a blue collar brand and intend to stay that way. Considering how similar the prices are (plus the styling), the Mazda wins hands down. It's not Car and Driver's #1 rated compact SUV for no reason.... :)