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TARJA vs FLOOR - Vocal Coach reacts to Tarja - Sleeping Sun (Live) 

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Nightwish is a Finnish symphonic metal band from Kitee. The band was formed in 1996 by lead songwriter and keyboardist Tuomas Holopainen, guitarist Emppu Vuorinen, and former lead singer Tarja Turunen.
"Sleeping Sun" is a power ballad and the fourth single by Finnish symphonic metal band Nightwish. It was released as a maxi single with three other songs on 2 August 1999 to coincide with the total solar eclipse that would occur on 11 August.
Songwriters: Tuomas Holopainen
Producers: Nightwish
Genre: Symphonic metal
Origin: Caverock, Kitee, Finland
Finnvox, Helsinki, Finland
Performed by Nightwish
Tarja Turunen - vocals
Tuomas Holopainen - keyboards
Emppu Vuorinen - guitars
Jukka Nevalainen - drums
Sami Vänskä - bass guitar
Floor Jansen
Date and Location
2018
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@BethRoars
@BethRoars 9 месяцев назад
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@nicod1361
@nicod1361 8 месяцев назад
reactors should know that it's never a good idea to compare singers in a "vs" manner from the same band especially with NW given their history
@GeorgeValkov
@GeorgeValkov 8 месяцев назад
Tarja (reads Tarya) is one of my favourite and most epic singers in the world, along with Sharon den Adel, Simone Simons and you Beth. 🧡
@jbd4508
@jbd4508 8 месяцев назад
Both are beautiful and I like them. But.. Tarja's voice is easy to recognize from 1000 blind auditions from the first note.
@Mikeysixkiller
@Mikeysixkiller 3 месяца назад
It's this easy for me. Tarja makes me feel a way. Goodbumps. Bone marrow vibrating. She takes you places. Floor not as much. Both are good. Fine, No complaint. But Tarja is special. And it matched with Marko and Jukka.
@arturama8581
@arturama8581 Месяц назад
Always hated Tarja's singing. With her sharp distorted vowels she murdered the english language.
@jbd4508
@jbd4508 Месяц назад
@@arturama8581 eleven?
@senseo2848
@senseo2848 Месяц назад
mainly because of her accent i guess
@Patryn71
@Patryn71 8 месяцев назад
There are songs that I think fit Tarja better, and songs that fit Floor better. I will never say one singer was better than the other for everything because they're not. I personally think this song fits Tarja's style better and enjoy it more with her singing. But there are songs that once Floor sings them she owns them. Also, let's not forget about Anette. Where as she wasn't that good (IMO mind you) on the more classical pieces, she could sing the hell out of their rock songs that were written for her. Every singer has their strengths and weaknesses.
@biglew1161
@biglew1161 8 месяцев назад
completely agree, I have a preference for one over the other but they are all great in there own way. Anette wasn't as strong live (my opinion) but as you said she can sing the hell out of songs written for her. I may like a singer better than another, but will never say one is better than the other. after all, Floor and Tarja are still good friends.
@AntonNidhoggr
@AntonNidhoggr 8 месяцев назад
There are some old songs that fit Tarja perfectly, the epic ones (Wishmaster etc.), cause she has such a notable classy ‘fantasy’ timbre. Floor is better in Celtic or brutal/metal stuff because of her warrior energy 😅
@2727rogers
@2727rogers 8 месяцев назад
Yes I agree 100%. I am a Nightwish fan first and while I love Floor I would also agree that Tarja on this song is outstanding. You really can't go wrong with a Nighwish song for sure.
@Ephelle
@Ephelle 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, it always kinda weirded me out hearing one of them sing a song that was written for a different singer. They each had their own style and the songs were definitely written with them in mind. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the version of each song that I heard first, but I can't think of any other bands or singers where it was so obvious to me that they're singing someone else's song.
@Patryn71
@Patryn71 7 месяцев назад
@@Ephelle AC/DC comes to mind. :D To me no one can sing a Bon Scott song the way he did. I have the utmost respect for Brian Johnson and what he's done for the band, but the way Bon sang is completely different to the way Brian sings. Hearing Brian sing Dirty Deeds makes me cringe a bit, but then I try to imagine Bon singing Thunderstruck and I just can't. A new singer joining a band does they best they can with older songs. Sometimes they knock it out of the park, and sometimes it's just not the same.
@alexmashkin863
@alexmashkin863 5 месяцев назад
I can't listen to Floor singing those old songs, I genuinely hate it. I stopped listening to Nightwish after Tarja has left, I just can't, it's not the same sound I fell in love with in 2004 or so. I do think that Floor is a good fit for them and that they're still a good rock band, but it's not for me anymore. Tarja's new stuff I listen to sometimes, but it's not the same too, the magic is not there, almost, but no :-) EDIT: Didn't mention Annette, I actually quite liked Amaranth and Bye Bye Beautiful, but it was so obviously not Nightwish that I never thought that she's there for long. Although the way they've parted sours me to the post Tarja version of the band even more.
@tuuli4002
@tuuli4002 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!! Tarja and Floor are so different singers. I love them both!!
@leatheredlife4861
@leatheredlife4861 6 месяцев назад
Floor is a great singer... she is perfect for nightwish today, there is no better choice. But she has one problem: she came after Tarja. And most of the early nightwish-fans, who "grew up" with Tarja and all these songs, fell in love with them - with the band, with this classical metal combination, that was something completely new in that time. It was a great time, that will never come back again. Nightwish has many new great songs, but these old songs - they were Tarja-Songs, and they will always be. When Floor sings them, it just feels like a cover (but of course a good cover 😄)
@stromerbuffy2203
@stromerbuffy2203 6 месяцев назад
true words! I love Floor and their style how she is singing the old Nightwish songs, but the old songs were always Tarja Songs
@anacarolinacb25
@anacarolinacb25 7 месяцев назад
Tarja tem uma voz incrivel classica lirica. Amoo ❤
@cabuloso4298
@cabuloso4298 7 месяцев назад
Tarja tinha a cara do Nightwish
@strabel803
@strabel803 8 месяцев назад
Yes, very different in their aproach but,both outstanding singers and regarded by many,as the top in their craft. Preferences will always have some "discusions" (say the least)but these ladies have earned their place in music history. Well done Beth.👍🤘 greetings from Spain.
@jacekjackson6903
@jacekjackson6903 8 месяцев назад
Now you need to check out Tarja and Steven'seaguls. They done amazing cover of this lovely song. Metal greatings 🤘
@NeeceLoneWolf
@NeeceLoneWolf 8 месяцев назад
Oh yes
@Andy_from_de
@Andy_from_de 9 месяцев назад
I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go. In the Nightwish backlog, there are some songs that are suited maybe a little more for the one or the other type of singing, and one can enjoy the different approaches. And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography, brings more variety to the table. Tarja is firmly rooted in the more operatic style, while Floor... as the saying goes, Floor doesn't sing what she can, but sings what she wants. We get to hear anything from growls over powerful belts to goosebumps inducing operatic style (Shoemaker! Ad Astra!).
@karadenizin-kizi
@karadenizin-kizi 8 месяцев назад
Tarja's signature sound is definitely the more operatic one, but at this point she also has a chestier _and_ a lighter voice that she uses, which I love!! Have you seen her perforn House of Wax - live at Genelec Artist Room? So unlike anything you'd expect from her but definitely showing she's less limited than people assume :) You should check it our if you haven't seen it, just out of curiousity maybe! :)
@mattoverho1
@mattoverho1 7 месяцев назад
"I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go.- - And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography - -". I see you really don't know that Tarja has amazing range and many singing techniques as well.
@Magga-f3z
@Magga-f3z 8 месяцев назад
I can not stand When so called fans put down Tarja. Nightwish is band from Finland.There is room for all three singers in my world.
@ChristianSander1969
@ChristianSander1969 8 месяцев назад
Being a "fan" of Nightwish has nothing to do with Tarja.. She's the reason I was never a fan when they started.. Can't stand her singing, sounds like a cat on a tin roof, ccan't understand half the words she sings and she's off pitch constantly.. Didn't become a fan untill Floor completed Nightwish, Floor is on point every time, powerfull, emotinal, empathic, the full package..
@alexandra-md5he
@alexandra-md5he 8 месяцев назад
​@@fredverkerk838we don t put nobody down! I like the Annette songs from her like Medows of heaven and Floor s like Shoumaker.That s all
@ferencercseyravasz7301
@ferencercseyravasz7301 8 месяцев назад
Now you understand what Tuomas meant in "Dead Boy's Poem" when he wrote "Wrote for the eclipse, wrote for the virgin...".
@fmtpulmanns7593
@fmtpulmanns7593 8 месяцев назад
I prefer Tarja for this song. Some others, I prefer Floor. Most, I couldn't pick which is better if my life depended on it. I like my belts, so I prefer Floor on more songs, but that's personal preference, not skill.
@jaanahedemaki6993
@jaanahedemaki6993 8 месяцев назад
There is no Tarja vs Floor. There is Tarja AND Floor. Putting singers up against each other is unfortunate thing to do in this toxic fanbase where everything is a competition.Reality tv generation doesn't know any better.The song is a Nightwish song and the band doesn't compete against itself.Watch this comment section fill up with who did it better and with backhanded compliments. Entitled fans make it all about themselves.Whole _____VS._____ is immature and music should never be a competition said Tuomas Holopainen, a man who made this masterpiece. Old band as Nightwish is deseves respect. I don't care who sings what. Every member contributed to a legacy of Nightwish.
@kajlennartsson4234
@kajlennartsson4234 8 месяцев назад
Tarja and Floor is great singers. You are amazing Beth. Your reaction videos is wonderful.
@tereflores1316
@tereflores1316 3 месяца назад
This song is for Tarja ❤
@jankro1
@jankro1 5 месяцев назад
Sorry to say but Floor does not fo anything for me. When Tarja starts to sing i get teary eyed and instant goosebumps!!
@zotharr
@zotharr 8 месяцев назад
Finally a Tarja video, thank you :)
@Dani-x01
@Dani-x01 8 месяцев назад
Tarja always was my favorite nightwish's singer so underrated but she's a Finland treasure and always will be love so much her style i would like you hopefully react her music solo like "I walk alone"or "until my last breath" among others great songs she had.
@maoushiki8506
@maoushiki8506 6 месяцев назад
finland let her star live in Argentina XDDDDDD and she enriched so much with arg folk music. that for sure that Tarja now has x2 x4 better than that tarja
@zotharr
@zotharr 8 месяцев назад
When it comes to Tarja, I was very anti-Floor (even though I only saw her with Nightwish 2 times live), and my first impression with this video was, that you cant really compare Floor with Tarja. But I started to notice now great Floor is singing some parts. It is different, but still great. My love for Tarja's version didnt let me see this, but now I could hear it more clearly :) Even though lots of people love Floor, I did underestimated her, but this comparison helped me see her greatness as well, thank you
@Shankulaaa
@Shankulaaa 7 месяцев назад
It's like comparing apples and oranges. They're both awesome and delicious in their individual way... it's just up to personal preference. For me personally, I like Floor, she's got a hell of a stage presence, but there is only one Tarja, and her style fits the ORIGINAL Nightwish sound better for me. Tarja has a power and purity in her notes that Floor just doesn't have for me, and her range is far superior.
@PetraPola
@PetraPola 8 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for getting back to Tarja. 🖤Sleeping Sun is a beautiful song, and I love Tarja's version from the Metal Church concert or her recent cover with Steve 'n' Seagulls. In the first case, I find her voice much cleaner, and in the second, it's an interesting combination with the bluegrass style. Overall, I prefer Tarja's cleaner voice as she developed it after leaving Nightwish. But of course I love her work with the band too so much. She was amazing with them too. From Metal Church, I highly recommend her cover of Avegend Sevenfold's Afterlife. She uses her voice very diversely there.
@charliepeterson7168
@charliepeterson7168 8 месяцев назад
I love the comparison between two singers singing the same song. I hope you do more like this.
@NeeceLoneWolf
@NeeceLoneWolf 8 месяцев назад
The Crow, The Owl and The Dove. Anette and Marko singing together makes me very emotional.
@laudatosiadastra1218
@laudatosiadastra1218 8 месяцев назад
One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard by any band. Both Tarja and Floor are simply breathtaking to listen to. So nice to watch your reaction.
@NightwishArena
@NightwishArena 8 месяцев назад
Some days I prefer to listen to old Nightwish, some days I prefer new. They are both fantastic indeed ❤
@laudatosiadastra1218
@laudatosiadastra1218 8 месяцев назад
100%
@ominayu
@ominayu 8 месяцев назад
Hey Beth there is a version with Steve'n'seagulls, listen to your joy it is amazing.
@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988
@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988 8 месяцев назад
Yes Sleeping Sun Tarja and Steven'N' Seagull año 2021😍🧜🏻‍♀️👑🔥🔥
@adoryntriggerhappy
@adoryntriggerhappy 8 месяцев назад
Oh by surprise, you did both singers. But even just beth and tarja are fire. Great you were doing your videos all over the years 🙏 thanks Beth !
@johnhmaloney
@johnhmaloney 9 месяцев назад
Great video! Without hearing them side by side, I don't think I would have expected the two of them to approach the same song so differently. I'd love to see you do more comparisons like this. :)
@markymark-pi5vi
@markymark-pi5vi 4 месяца назад
thomas made this song for tarja
@dazjackson1972
@dazjackson1972 8 месяцев назад
We Nightwish fans have been very blessed. I prefer Floor in this instance, but both are lovely performances. I give Floor the nod, simply because this performance has brought me to tears on occasion.🇬🇧👍
@b0bb0wen
@b0bb0wen 5 месяцев назад
Both are amazing... but I would choose Tarja first anyday!!
@KelgeriaGames
@KelgeriaGames 28 дней назад
I love your analysis. It helps me to understand what i am hearing. Its not about better, but its different. I appreciate the performances of both artist even more. thank you. I love Tarja as well as Floor. Can't help, at a personal taste i like at this moment of time Floor version. And i read it before, the studio album of Annette maybe my favourite.
@mattihelin5101
@mattihelin5101 8 месяцев назад
Please, check Beauty of the Beast by Nightwish. It's a beautiful, vast, sad and incredible song.
@moi-ev3pi
@moi-ev3pi 7 месяцев назад
FOr me nightwish has always been the best with Tarja
@Zombertino
@Zombertino 6 месяцев назад
The fact is Floor can do everything Tarja can and more. This is speaking about technique. Floor's diction of the English language also helped Nightwish reach a much broader audience than with Tarja. Keep in mind I've listened to Nightwish since the beginning, so I was actually biased towards Tarja, but the years have taught me that fair is fair. Floor's versatility, range, stage presence and charisma have made her the best nightwish singer so far. My opinion, of course. Tastes differ.
@js0988
@js0988 8 месяцев назад
This is Tarja's song. Love them both but this one is Tarja's.
@laudatosiadastra1218
@laudatosiadastra1218 8 месяцев назад
It is and always will be a Nightwish song.
@alexandra-md5he
@alexandra-md5he 8 месяцев назад
​@@laudatosiadastra1218you mean Nightwish sing all together?
@brivdomatajs3
@brivdomatajs3 8 месяцев назад
This ir Tuomas's song.))
@alexandra-md5he
@alexandra-md5he 8 месяцев назад
@@brivdomatajs3 so, Tuomas can sing!!! Because i thought the singer gives life to the song.The partitura notes
@laudatosiadastra1218
@laudatosiadastra1218 8 месяцев назад
@@alexandra-md5he Floor singing Sleeping Sun is beyond beautiful and emotion evoking, the purest beauty. It will always be a Nightwish song. No one person is more important than the sum of the members. Sleeping Sun isn´t a Tarja song much in the way Shoemaker isn´t a Floor song, they are all Nightwish songs.
@trekkerj
@trekkerj 8 месяцев назад
It’s pronounced TAAR-iy-aa
@Zuerjelberger
@Zuerjelberger 7 месяцев назад
Yes. The Finnish letter J should be like Y in Yankee and not like J in junkie. But apart from that the pronunciation was quite on point.
@robertpetre9378
@robertpetre9378 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for reacting to my favourite song by Nightwish
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick 8 месяцев назад
G'day Beth, Not interested in Tarya vs FLOOR "who's better" I just Love Nightwish & they are Both Awesome Emotive Singers with 🎤👼Beautiful Voices🎤👼🎸🥁🔊🎶🎶🎵🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎵🎵
@yuriykorotkevych8838
@yuriykorotkevych8838 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for paying attention and appreciating Nightwish of Tarja's era. It looks like most of reactors on RU-vid are obsessed with Floor and almost totally ignore the band in its earlier years. Don't get me wrong, Floor does great job in the band, including singing of many Tarja's era songs brilliantly, but Tarja was also great in the band and the band was great with her. "Sleeping Sun" is one of the songs that's been and will remain a song for Tarja to sing, imho. As a side note: please, don't pronounce it like /ʤ/ in her name. It's close to /j/, like in "you".
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen 8 месяцев назад
... but no one much react to Anette Olzon who joined for two years or so in-between (but apparently could not handle the rigorous touring schedule). The Blaze Bailey of Nightwish :)
@vorspiel8
@vorspiel8 6 месяцев назад
I love much more Tarja❤ but i loge Floor en After Forever❤
@markclements7767
@markclements7767 8 месяцев назад
Hello Beth, welcome back and greetings from Reading, UK Another fantastic reaction, thank you 😉
@kyttraus
@kyttraus 2 месяца назад
Tara's voice makes my hairs raise every time
@nicod1361
@nicod1361 8 месяцев назад
one would think understandably that reactors especially seasoned ones with a knowledge of NW would know better than to do a "VS" type of comparison
@vovin1976
@vovin1976 8 месяцев назад
It is so so hard, both are so great. 😊
@pagemeredith4532
@pagemeredith4532 8 месяцев назад
I prefer Floor because I think her voice sounds more natural and sounds more authentic. She conveys more emotion than technique, and with Floor, I can understand the lyrics better.
@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988
@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988 8 месяцев назад
Ambas son auténticas solo que Floor es una voz comercial y Tarja una voz para no cualquiera para seguir a Tarja tienes que saber que su fuente de potencia vocal está en la voz clásica lírica operística Soprano y Mezosoprano gótico yo prefiero la versatilidad rara y no la versatilidad comercial
@alexandra-md5he
@alexandra-md5he 8 месяцев назад
Same​@@VivianaRaquelGonzalez-1988
@AvidCat5000
@AvidCat5000 8 месяцев назад
I forgot how much I loved this band. A fan ever since the Alone in The Dark soundtrack.
@foxtanker4055
@foxtanker4055 8 месяцев назад
They are both great but as a native english speaker I have to say that Floor gets the nod in delivery of lyric.
@johnnytiger7580
@johnnytiger7580 8 месяцев назад
Floor is great singer, no doubt. But I actually prefer Tarja in all the songs from that era. That era was the best era of Nightwish so far in my opinion. And yes she has a strong voice. There are videos of her singing classical songs without a microphone in a music hall.
@nicolevanvugt5997
@nicolevanvugt5997 8 месяцев назад
Lets agree to disagree
@birdec765
@birdec765 8 месяцев назад
Not related, I was listening to my Robin Trower compilation and I noticed in places that Jimmy Dewar's vocals had been doubled occasionally and he uses (to me) a surprising amount of vibrato which is reflected in the guitar effects sometimes. This is because of you telling us about these things. I experianced music that I'd been listening to since it was new in a new way today after literally decades of hearing it. Thank you so much, I'm properly happy about this. I'm adding your Patreon😊
@BethRoars
@BethRoars 8 месяцев назад
This is so lovely!
@tomasbilos
@tomasbilos 8 месяцев назад
Both are excellent. I personally prefer F because of the goosebumps
@brewswillis9783
@brewswillis9783 8 месяцев назад
And non-accent.
@brewswillis9783
@brewswillis9783 8 месяцев назад
And non-accent.
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN 6 месяцев назад
Tarja doesnt give you goosebumps or what? 😂
@brewswillis9783
@brewswillis9783 6 месяцев назад
@@De-M-oN I’m team Floor but Tarja gives me Targasms on Deep Silent Complete for sure!
@Nothing_Angelz
@Nothing_Angelz 15 дней назад
I think sleeping Sun ist the only Song Tarja beats Floor in my opinion. But the Cover from this Lady sounds better than Tarja and Floor. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zfzIDdHql1s.htmlsi=F6EaVdnK4I0lUFK2 @BethRoars
@ulfvesterlund2160
@ulfvesterlund2160 8 месяцев назад
Christmas 2022 i was in Tallinn, Estonia watching her special short tour show "Christmas Together" she was singing most of the classical songs, was so beautiful, a lot of people crying :) But regarding Nightwish, happy that i got to see her sing when she was still in the band and when they were on their peak :)
@Mrs_Banjo
@Mrs_Banjo 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate your approach. I often see people in comments on social media pitting these women against each other as if it's a competition and their approaches to music and sound are so different but so great. It's nice to see that highlighted. 💙
@davidbentley4032
@davidbentley4032 5 месяцев назад
What? If 'TARJA vs FLOOR ' (that is her own headline) isn't a competition then what is?
@aixmhros
@aixmhros 3 месяца назад
one cover 5.000 sitted opera houses with no mic the other barely listened in a theater 2.500 sits.. yeah nah there's no comparison.-
@duncananderson3143
@duncananderson3143 11 дней назад
Beth, love your reaction films. I highly recomend Auri 2, Pearls, a Celtic folk project from Toumas, his amazing wife Joanna, Troy and Kai from Nightwish
@larryc3860
@larryc3860 5 месяцев назад
Before there was Floor there was Tarja.......with Simone of 'Epica', these 3 symphonic metal/classical vocalists are just the best ........
@ptdoria88
@ptdoria88 3 месяца назад
I DONT BELIEVE YOU NOT LISTENED TE VOCALIST OF GRAND FUNK RAILROAD , YET !!!! MY GOD ! STOP THE PLANET EARTH 😂😂😂😂 . YOU ARE MY BEST REACTOR ! Beth.... i hear you calling......😂😂😂😂😂
@arturama8581
@arturama8581 Месяц назад
Powerfull? Tarja? She's almost swallowing the mic!
@Gamaoyabi
@Gamaoyabi 7 месяцев назад
Dear Beth, please I beg you, if you are making episode about someone, learn how to pronounce that person name. It's a sign of good manners and show of respect. My ears bleed when I hear how you pronounce Tarja name. It feels like spoken barbed wire. Please treat this comment as constructive criticism and opportunity for improvement. All the best 👍
@gfinetti
@gfinetti 8 месяцев назад
Great video Beth! Congrats
@eaglepass5170
@eaglepass5170 8 месяцев назад
Excellent!!
@sheilacorbin521
@sheilacorbin521 4 месяца назад
I definitely perfer Floor however both beautiful and very different styles . I don't think you can compare they're both amazing and completely different.
@johngriffin3887
@johngriffin3887 Месяц назад
Oddly I started with Tarja "Gethsemane", but bit by bit became more enamoured of Floor. My favourite albums paradocically are Anette's two!
@benbermusics
@benbermusics 8 месяцев назад
There is a thing about this operatic vibrato, the manner Tarja expresses. There are lots of instances where I hear Tarja making an onset that is a quarter or a half note above or below the note required. She corrects this in a quarter of a second. That gives it a searching or hovering aspect, I would call it unstable. The tone quality may be beautiful but I prefer a straight note or a deliberate slide to a note instead of this stepping up or stepping down all the time. Is this Karlsruhe fashion? Because I listen to operasingers using vibrato but not being unstable in note finding...
@nicholew350
@nicholew350 8 месяцев назад
That’s how I feel about Floor when she can’t find the note so she suddenly belts it a bit. You can tell she’s struggling and it actually stresses me out so much I can’t listen to it.
@FluffyLaDooDoo
@FluffyLaDooDoo 7 месяцев назад
Tarja has been doing this song for so many years and now all of a sudden it bothers you and now that you hear a pop-ish singer do it you like it because you wanna jump on the bandwagon because of the generation we live in
@martintebbutt4732
@martintebbutt4732 8 месяцев назад
Hi Beth both girls are great vocalist I think tarja has a slightly darker tune to her vocals which to me sounds very medieval with floor being lighter also great musicians please can you explain the difference between head and chest voice have a great weekend 🤘🤘🎸🎼
@pablo_maidana
@pablo_maidana 6 месяцев назад
Jeje noté que te gustó mas la versión original. No te culpo, a mi también! ❤❤❤
@OJB42
@OJB42 3 месяца назад
Definitely prefer Tarja on this song, and a few others (Phantom of the Opera, Dead Boy's Poem), but Floor is best for others (especially Ghost Love Score). Both great performers for Nightwish.
@christophschmedes5975
@christophschmedes5975 6 месяцев назад
The original Nightwish Band is Thomas Holopainen Jukka Nervalainen Empu Vuirinen Gitarr sorry I forgot the Name from the first Bassist of Nightwish
@qubla2
@qubla2 2 месяца назад
Sleeping sun belongs to Tarja. As much i ❤ Floor. Both are wonderful
@thebreatho
@thebreatho 8 месяцев назад
This song is 100% Tarja's
@pfg72
@pfg72 3 месяца назад
You have probably already seen it, but I'd love to hear your insights on the "Phantom of the Opera" live performance with Tarja at the helm. Cheers from Patagonia!
@Nemanja_P.
@Nemanja_P. 6 месяцев назад
I think you picked the wrong song for comparison. This was written specifically for Tarja. Floor is at an unfair disadvantage here. And this is coming from a Tarja fan.
@jauhoprinsessa
@jauhoprinsessa Месяц назад
For me Tarja has darker"colour" to her voice than Floor..dunno? like she sounds dark and cold yet beautiful where as Floor is more warm and angelic.
@virginiapascual4136
@virginiapascual4136 2 месяца назад
Digamos las cosas como son, Floor es muy buena...pero Tarja es. Mágica!
@kathleenverbeek8492
@kathleenverbeek8492 3 месяца назад
No one can ever beat Tarja. You know nothing, child. You pose as a vocal coach, but I suggest you take some lessons first 😂
@paulc2317
@paulc2317 7 месяцев назад
Not to mention that Tarja sings it on a higher tunning
@Uriel-Septim.
@Uriel-Septim. 8 месяцев назад
Both versions are beautiful.
@karadenizin-kizi
@karadenizin-kizi 8 месяцев назад
You can tell Tarja was quite ill and breathy here but I love her voice on this song, especially the older versions when her voice was darker and rounder. Such a beautiful track ❣Thank you for this reaction and analysis! :)
@rientsdijkstra4266
@rientsdijkstra4266 8 месяцев назад
I wonder why do people allways have to make this excuse? Opera singer Maggie Renee reacted to a different recording of Sleeping Sun with Tarja and also came to the conclusion that Tarja's technique is not optimal. Also in the comments of that video people started making excuses about Tarja's health... So is Tarja always sick? O might there be another problem?
@fredverkerk838
@fredverkerk838 8 месяцев назад
@@rientsdijkstra4266 its a fake opera singer
@karadenizin-kizi
@karadenizin-kizi 8 месяцев назад
@@rientsdijkstra4266 20 year old Tarja's classical technique was not perfect after 2 whole of years of studying? That's so shocking.
@karadenizin-kizi
@karadenizin-kizi 8 месяцев назад
Also it's not an excuse, it's simply a fact. It's also a fact that she's not a professional opera singer. And Tarja is the first one to say she does not sing perfect and that she makes mistakes when she performs live. But she also says that she sings with her heart and I care more about that than about a perfect technique. If I wanted perfect I'd listen to auto tune.
@rientsdijkstra4266
@rientsdijkstra4266 8 месяцев назад
@@karadenizin-kizi Maybe... But it never has been perfect and her current technique is even worse. You don't believe me? Just listen to Tarja trying to sing Nemo live in Serbia in october 2022... It is terrible. And the thing is that all these Tarja-zelots are convinced that Tarja is "on another level" and has "superior technique". Which she doesn't. As a singer Floor has a much better technique and a much better control over her voice than Tarja. Now it can be that you like Tarja's sound better than Floor's sound. If that is so, fine, you are welcome to it! But this shouting about the superiority of Tarja needs to be corrected. Tarja is a special talent with a special voice (which I happen not to like...) but she is far from perfect and actually not a very good singer at all.
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 9 месяцев назад
I've always liked both versions. They are different (even the arrangement and instrumentation) but each is unique in its own way.
@shadowmoon1657
@shadowmoon1657 8 месяцев назад
Disagree. Tarja’s in another mood completely.
@senseo2848
@senseo2848 Месяц назад
Floors version fits the fragile nature of the song much better in my opinion.
@ImForwardlook
@ImForwardlook 8 месяцев назад
I can't stand floor enough to even listen to a whole song. Nightwish died without Tarja.
@fredverkerk838
@fredverkerk838 8 месяцев назад
you to
@rnowak85
@rnowak85 8 месяцев назад
Lovely reaction. I really enjoyed the insights and analysis on the different techniques that they used to create a beautiful and powerful performance. This is one song where I love both Tarja and Floor's performances equally. Different but equally powerful and emotional.
@beernmetal6964
@beernmetal6964 6 месяцев назад
You may not read this since it's a month too late, but I read that Tarja said this was a difficult song because the breathing was so much different than what her training taught her (or something like that). I think both Tarja and Floor are great and I like that you show the difference of how they were trained kinda defines how they sing differently.
@gokuazul3182
@gokuazul3182 6 месяцев назад
I like the way Tarja sings, her accent, she is better for me, But I love Floor too.
@Reemoun
@Reemoun Месяц назад
I very much love the Tarja version where she sings in the green :)
@robertthurman9866
@robertthurman9866 8 месяцев назад
Tarja owns Phantom, Nemo and Sleeping Sun. That being said at this period Tarja used constant vibrato on everything which I found irritating. Tarja no long uses the vibrato constantly. Hoping we get a lot of videos from the Tarja, Marko tour.
@chrisanderson6930
@chrisanderson6930 3 месяца назад
this is one older nightwish song i actually prefer floor on. she gives me the feels. not that tarja isnt amazing too.
@PetraRiedewald
@PetraRiedewald 8 месяцев назад
I am very happy that you appreciate both singers and just point out the differences. Many commenters speak ill of one of the two singers. This is daft because it is so obvious that both singers are of high quality. And apart from this the song is absolutely beautiful as are many songs that Tuomas Holopainen wrote for Nightwish. Thank you!
@andypullin4702
@andypullin4702 8 месяцев назад
Tuomas is so good at writing for the singer (and musicians) that he has with him, and also allowing them to put their own slant on the music.
@annaoophoto5259
@annaoophoto5259 5 месяцев назад
Tarja at that time was asked to sing in a more POP manner, but when shes loud he cant help but to go opera
@MrMvidz
@MrMvidz 4 месяца назад
Floor is my #1, but this is one of those songs that Tarja owns 100 %.
@HelMut3103
@HelMut3103 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for this reaction. Tarja is my favorite female singer since 25 years. She has such a unique and beautiful voice. But also powerful. There’s something special and magical in it. She not only studied here in Germany. Tarja also studied in Finland. At a Highschool for music and at the famous Sibelius Academy. She was the first to graduate with top grade. The Nightwish songs from Tarja’s era will always belong to her. 🤘🏻
@chuckhand8622
@chuckhand8622 8 месяцев назад
Tarja is pronounced Tar E A
@Aussiecris214
@Aussiecris214 8 месяцев назад
Tarja is in a league of her own but she is humble thanks you Beth❤
@petrikuikka
@petrikuikka 8 месяцев назад
I don't like to compare Tarja, Anette or Floor. All these wonderful women have their own strengths and place in Nightwish history. Some songs suit one person better than another. 😊 Tarja started the charm, Anette broke records and Floor charmed everyone. Greetings from Finland! Kiitos! 😊🤘🏻
@The_greatest_of_boxing
@The_greatest_of_boxing 3 месяца назад
Tarja number one, only singer of the nightwish
@PatrickHutton
@PatrickHutton Месяц назад
Floor sounds "constricted" whilst Tarja seems to be more "effortless". Is she using some type of breathing technique over and above what Floor does?
@BethRoars
@BethRoars Месяц назад
It's less about breathing and more about the shapes they are creating with their vocal tracts, to create different tones. This video illustrates it well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J3TwTb-T044.html
@talesthesalesman3106
@talesthesalesman3106 8 месяцев назад
Please do a video reaction to Forever by Noro Blue! 💙❤️🙌🔥
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