Terminator: Fate of the Machine (Whole franchise review) 

"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear".... but it can do you a cracking deal on a killer set of drapes.

if they make a 4 hour T2 cut, it will still feel intense

I think you're the first person I've seen who probably enjoyed Salvation almost as much as I did. I'm comforted in knowing they're for very similar reasons, too.

I honestly thought the character Marcus in salvation was one of the more original narrative points of the movie. Terminator 3's T-X was basically a hybrid of the original T-800 and the T-1000 with some built-in weapons. But Marcus unknowingly being a terminator brought a more interesting conflict to the recurring theme of the supposed binary and potential reconciliation between man and machine.

Interesting perspective. The main thing that REALLY bugs me about the new Terminator film is what happened to John Connor. It just doesn't feel right.

9:34 Rossatron always sneaking in those slick edits 👌

I didn't find the T800 being a good guy a mistake since it gives us an even terrifying villain T1000.

T2 is like the Empire Strikes back of its franchise.

My take on the first Terminator is this... it’s parallel stories of both sides of the war using time travel to create themselves. Kyle thinks his mission is to protect Sarah but really it is to father John. The T-800, on paper, is supposed to kill Sarah, but really, it’s main purpose is to get destroyed at Cyberdyne and leave behind the arm and the chip; essentially fathering SkyNet. I believe there’s a deleted scene that has the reveal that the factory was Cyberdyne and that they found the remains of the Terminator which is amazing to think that Cameron had that piece of lore already established from the beginning.

You could litterally watch these videos with the sound off and just be memorized by the editing alone.

Salvation was pretty good.. R.I.P. Anton..He was a good actor and a nice guy.. And the spitting image of a young Kyle Reese.. Spot on ! Basically doing exactly what he talked about it in the 1st film to Sarah ...Starving..hiding from HKs.. Whats that ? "2 day old coyote.. Huh better than 3 day old coyote" "That was a hunter killer and thanks to you , now they know we're here" And I loved the way he already had skills in protecting ppl who couldnt protect themselves.. Like Star the little girl.. I Appreciate the little nods Like how Marcus taught em how to strap the shotgun to his shoulder.. Same thing he did in 1st film.. Salvation is a love letter to T1 and T2..for sure.. John hacking the moto terminator cycles . Forshadowing T2 ...The guns and roses song... A nod to Hacking into the Atm as well..in T2 Marcus not knowing hes a Terminator was a breath of fresh air.. No time travel plot... Always a plus. Then we got to finally see that a T-800 turns out to be far more durable than a T-1000 ... Afterall.. Surviving against Direct Grenade Launcher Shells, Extreme Heat From Molten steel and Extreme Cold to the point of frezzing.. All which a T-1000 can die from.. Marcus giving his life up to Save john.. I like the fact the John wasnt the Leader of the Resistance yet...That alot ppl didnt believe in him.. So this film has its moments..

"How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all your favourite film series destroyed?" ~ Rich Evans, circa 2017

Will never consider Dark Fate as a true "direct sequel" to T2, but rather an alternate timeline sequel.

We need a Terminator film set in the future scenes of T1 and T2... skulls for a landscape, the tanks, the Hunter-Killer craft, purple lasers, energy rifles.... and John Connor leading the resistance (basically what Salvation should have been).

The Terminator is one of those films I'll never tire of.

I'm old enough to remember When this shit first dropped and I can tell you unequivocally that the T800 being the protector surprised everyone. Regardless of the "Bad To The Bone" choice.

I believe the Terminator series should have always been 1, 2 with 3s Ending and a post judgement day film like salvation (but not salvation) creating a perfect narrative loop where each movie is both prequel and sequel to one another and where the lack of knowledge to the events trying to prevent them, became the catalyst that actually started them.

Terminator 2 was one of the best films I ever saw and re watched many times. It will always be fresh

I'll admit that T2 is in many ways superior but the first one was PERFECT. Smaller, more self contained but flawless.

"They don't want to undo the second film's ending" ??? I just got out of Terminator Dark Fate, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's exactly what they did. I'm confused how you came away with this impression.

You've really outdone yourself with some of the slickest cuts and edits I've seen in a while!

"Protect my Sarah" really got me when I first saw that

i enjoyed the t1 t2 t3 and t4. because there is a consistency in continuity of story and timeline. after the 4th film, it all went downhill

Thanks for puting so much passion into these videos. They are amazing!

All I wanted was a Terminator movie where Furlong is leading the resistance, finally defeating Skynet and saving humanity.

Sarah/Linda Hamilton was the innocence in the Terminator but Reese/Michael Biehn was the heart. I remember just crumbling as a kid when I realized he died. The movie wouldn't have been what it was without his amazing performance.

Salvation was great. They should have never given up on it.

the first chicken hatched from an egg from a proto-chicken. so the egg was first.

I fully agree. The music for T2, especially Guns 'N' Roses involvement with "You Could Be Mine"... fucking awesome. I love every minute of it, still to this day.

T3 gets a lot of grief but I thought they handled the Judgment Day sequence really well: the music, and John’s voiceover lend a hopeful tone while the most horrifying scenario plays out onscreen. That being said, they should have left it at T2. The deleted scene with old Sarah and her grandchild is as satisfying an ending as one could hope for.

Incredibly edited. This was the best I have seen.

They didn't make a Terminator movie after Terminator 2. Change my mind.

My biggest problem with Grace is her "upgrades" that enable her to go toe to toe with the Rev 9, becoming more like a machine isn't the solution, the scars on Kyle Reese tragically show us how human he is VS his unstoppable foes, I don't believe humans in the Skynet timeline would be willing to augment themselves to win the war.

First video I've seen of rossatron, very well put together enough to subscribe anyway.

Rossatron your narration is FANTASTIC.

Well done. You show great skill in how you put this retrospective together. The Terminator was my first R-rated movie and it helped shape how I look at blockbuster filmmaking.

dammit rossatron, your commentary is just too spot on, well written sir

The T-800 killing John Connor on the first 5 minutes is a big FU to the fans of the series. Also, Danny's actress was pretty bad, and the whole "we stopped Skynet but actually it happened all the same with a different name" was crap

This is a great overview of the franchise. I really enjoyed your work on this one. Thanks

I really love your movie to movie transitions, top tier editing.

Terminator Salvation is better than it’s given credit for. But it’s a flawed film. Focused on the wrong elements and should’ve been R rated to explore more adult themes. At least it wasn’t another time travel story and if it had been successful we would’ve got to the purple lasers and what we recognize as the future war.

T1: Great T2: GREAT T3: Ok TS: Actually kinda like it, it was different. TG: Let's not talk about it. TDF: Haven't seen it yet.

A hearty thumbsup, my man. Excellent work.

Bruh! This editing is so sick 💯

T1 & T2 are some of my favourite films of all time. One of the main things I appreciate about them, which we virtually do not see today, is the use of special FX to make action and aesthetics look believable; instead, we get cartoonish, physics defying CGI that is largely used to replace character development and decent writing. In my opinion, the only thing the later films have in common with the first two is the brand name, there's little to nothing of substance added, especially in terms of artistry and film making. The Sarah Connor Chronicles, although a different medium, did a far better job. I'd love to see future Terminator films (if we ever get any) treated with the same level of maturity and artistry as they once were, but I can't see that happening as an extension of the most recent instalment.

I would like to see a video game in the style of alien isolation, but a retelling of the original Terminator.

GREAT VIDEO ROSS

Please mark this precious moment in time. Thank you for your review, gave me lots of insight!

Tbh I’m tired of the T1, T2 style chase style film. I just wanna see the future war done right...

The fact that T-800 is the good guy in T2 is telegraphed even without Bad to the Bone. Notice how he does not kill anybody in the bar, even the guy that stabbed him. In the first movie, poor punk got his ribcage ripped through when he stabbed the terminator. T-1000, on the other hand, killed the cop straight away. Pretty clear who is who. I think this franchise should be put to rest. Every sequel after T2 is just an act of necrophilia. Salvation tried a diiferent take on the story, but the script was too weak to deliver anything coherent.

Another amazing video! well done. Keep em coming

Some lovely editing/transitions in this video, very well put together. ;)

I adored your retrospective and agreed on pretty much everything, particularly your fair analysis of Salvation (although your opinion on making Arnold a bad guy in T2 is questionable). However, your review of Dark Fate is where you dropped the ball for me. The latest addition is not the film you hype it up to be, it does a disservice to the franchise, in particular; the story that the first two movies told. This movie wanted to be a (woke) modern remake of T2 but it chose to step on the legacy of the first two films in order to do it, completely nullifying the achievements of that film in the opening minutes of the movie. Only T3 comes close to that level of disrespect by killing Sarah Connor offscreen. The only respectful sequel thus far has unfortunately been Salvation.

1: Terminator 2: Judgement Day 2: The Terminator 3: Terminator Dark Fate 4: Terminator Salvation 5: Terminator 3 6: Terminator Genisys

I love your every transition

Brilliant video. U seriously should be hired to do some film historian video-essays. Your one for Predator is amazingly well put together and narrated.

It's audience and fans' fault for Genysis and Dark Fate: Every time they jump back in time the timeline resets, the series gets rebooted. Terminator Salvation was the perfect opportunity to move on from the same time period. But since audiences and fans didn't like it I guess producers went like "They don't like the new direction into future, lets give then the same period of time", and thus condemned Terminator to Genysis and Dark Fate, and not letting old Arnold go. We should have had a trilogy in the future war machine where even other machines and people from Future participated. And maybe ONE END FOR ALL, machines and men uniting into cyborgs, or something.

The point you made about T1 feeling like a horror/slasher is both something I agree with and something that’s really fascinating to think about when you look at what came after. Like, the slasher villain of the first film essentially becomes the heroic figure of the second and that’s kind of amusing. T1 and T2 are pretty even for me, I love the things both forms do. Whether it’s T1’s smaller scale and more science fiction/horror vibe or T2’s massive scale with a pretty much perfect expansion on the story. I love Robert’s T-1000 but there as always something about the cold and callous nature of the first T-800 that still seems so unnerving.

You sum it up beautifully..I almost brought tears to my eyes..and I realized I take Terminator for granted...

LOVED the comparison to Halloween. Very insightful video thank you !

"Whole franchise review" is a bit much for only two movies.

The first 2 are the only ones worth rewatching. T2 alternate ending would have been a nice ending if they wanted to stop when the franchise was great.

This was a great video, thank you for it

I‘m always tearing up when Arnold makes up a thumps up when he is emerged in the molten steel. So well done.

We aren't watching a video, but a film documentary 11:37.

Imo the huge misstep in the franchise was Genisys and then Dark Fate doubled down on that. T1-Salvation at least made sense. They moved chronologically and the story progression is what I always wanted, a buildup to the war with John Connor as the leader of the Resistance. Genisys and Dark Fate are just horrible soft reboots that shouldn't have been made.

Agreed! The music in T2 gives me goosebumps to this day and I'm 38 and have watched it maybe 50+ times. It's absolutely amazing!

Great analysis - and visual storytelling.

18:15 “Why did you say that name?!” Hahahahahahahaha!

I know I'm in the minority but I LOVE "Terminator Genisys".

Love this video!

14:47 that transition was smooth as silk

I probably like Salvation more than most but at least it isn’t a rehash that 3 and Genesys are.

I think sequels are dead the moment Jim Cameron decided that the humans "won" against the machines in the future in T1. And now we have a copy-paste Skynet called Legion just because of that line.

Pre-Ordered the documentary and I can't fucking wait! Thank you for all the great content.

Well done, I am legit excited now to see Dark Fate.

when I watched t2 for the first time, I thought Arnie was the villain and the robocop (sorry for the pun) was the protector

It should have ended at T2. With a perfect ending

I have a feeling you will be one of the few that will forgive the opening of Dark Faith while the rest of us won't!

One of the many things especially good about T2 is the use of short snippets of music no longer than a single edit. Particularly during the bike/truck chase scene, these are used so well!

A big problem with the franchise was that after the first "Terminator," Arnie would never again play a "bad guy." It's a shame, because he was really good at it.

There was The Terminator. Then there was Terminator 2... ...END OF FRANCHISE.

I could only watch terminator videos from you and be completely satisfied

16:44 I was really enjoying the video, and when 16:44 hit, I was like “I respect this man” and subscribed. That transition was beautiful. It honestly put me to the feels.

I also enjoyed Dark Fate, it's not a good movie, but it was at least fun. Arnold and Linda Hamilton were really good in it.

Mainly just a comment to boost you in the algorithm however can I just say out of all the top tier video essayists I watch you by far have the most impressive and legitimately professional editing also would you consider doing a live stream so I can donate in super chat I don't have much money for a regular patreon donation but I could do a one of donation of 3 or 5 dollars

That transition at 11:40 is damn brilliant

That editing tho. Great video.

Just give us the Future War and put the franchise to bed. The series has ignored the horror and bleak, almost pessimistic view of the future and where mankind is ultimately headed (it's extinction by its own hand).

T3s ending blew my fking mind when I saw it in theaters, I was like 11 or 12 and coiuld not believe it, I was so hyped for T4...and oh well

2:00 What a lovely transition you did.

Wow great review very descriptive

In my universe, Terminator 2 was a critical failure and no sequels were ever made. It wen't on to become a cult classic though. James Cameron changed careers and never made dreck like Avatar. All in all, I like my universe :-)

Cameron did not appreciate how Alien 3 unceremoniously killed off the survivors of Aliens. He said something akin to: "You can only hit the audience with a 2 by 4 so many times before they stop caring for these characters". Now he has done the very same thing by making T1 and T2 completely irrelevant. John Connor doesn't matter, Skynet doesn't matter.

I like this review immensely.

I clearly remember the premiere back in the 80ies. Saw it twice in the cinema and was under age by 2 years, but still couldn't get enough.

I've always gotten the same eye roll feeling from the evolution of the terminator and the evolution of the light saber. Something so perfect from the start that every improvement makes it less perfect.

I still think the first movie is the best one, everything else just relegates him to a sidekick.

Thank you someone finally has my opion on 1 -4 and my hate of 5

my biggest gripe with Darkfate is the theme of "choose your own fate" when clearly the movie is saying fate is already written