Testosterone Cypionate vs Enanthate

Dr. Robert Stevens - The Men's Health Clinic

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[ARTICLE] Testosterone Cypionate in the UK - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/tes...
The premise behind TRT is normalising your male androgen levels for long term physical and psychological well-being. We also want to reverse the negative symptoms that you have presented with! This involves a thorough assessment, analysing your lifestyle, nutrition and physical exercise; alongside addressing possible reversible causes. You should always look to increase your natural testosterone level before committing to what is a lifelong therapy. Here is a guide - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/how....
To decide if TRT is in your best interests, a formal diagnosis of testosterone deficiency is made following a full diagnostic blood test, along with a second confirmatory test. More information can be found here - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/tes....
If you’ve not had any blood tests to date, we would recommend starting with either the ‘TRT Complete’ or ‘TRT Complete Plus’ blood tests - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/hea.... These are both comprehensive blood tests that look at all of your hormone markers, as well as other general health parameters which would highlight any potential reversible causes for your low testosterone. If you would like to go ahead, we can organise a test for you, or you can request them from your GP.
More details on our consultation and treatment process can be found at the following page of our website - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/hea.... This is further summarised here, along with a recommended plan of action depending on your personal circumstances - themenshealthclinic.co.uk/you....
You may find our closed Facebook group a helpful resource - / trtin. .
Dr Rob Stevens MBChB MRCGP DipFIPT

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@philmc007 4 года назад

Amazing advice and knowledge.

@legend0fred 3 года назад

thank you for a clear and concise description as always

@domsawyer8953 3 года назад

Love your channel. Wish you were local!!!

@gozitan5 3 года назад

Thanks Doc !

@ramirythm 4 года назад

Thank you! 🙏

@hedley939 4 года назад

Will be in touch in the couple of days as I only live in the Ringwood area. I'm 62 and started training again a few months ago, but want to step up to a totally new level.

@jamesbarnes4964 4 года назад

my dad would also like that we have just started training again i am 27 my dad is 60 in October and is almost scared to lift due to his age

@hedley939 4 года назад

@@jamesbarnes4964 Yes, I still train two or three times/wk in my garage. Just moved home this week with tons of stress in the build up to moving, and just totally exhausted with all the crap of a buyer threatening to pull out last minute. This was on top of three sales falling through at the bottom of the chain prior to lockdown. Was feeling unwell and thought I was going to have a heart attack or mental breakdown. Anyway, I can still bench two 40kg dumbbells @ 6 reps and curl 50kg @ 6 reps..reducing the weight on subsequent sets. Walk 3 miles 6 x wk and skip for 10 mins 3 x wk. Was going for a personal press up record at the end of 2019, but came down with a really bad flu type of illness early Jan, which took around 6 wks to fully recover from. Was doing around 1800 push ups in 1hr 20mins, and 200 as a first set. Probably cheated on a few of them but at 62 + it's my prerogative 💪. Stay safe and don't be beaten..PMA.

@endofdayzfitnessu.k2126 10 месяцев назад

Did u get in touch u tyre kicker

@mikecat1467 11 месяцев назад

Bro tip..watch this video at 1.75 speed. .

@stigero 4 месяца назад

that worked! :D

@stephanstefan6211 4 года назад

Interesting...a very good explanation on the meaning of all... IM same efect ,subQ different effect and that's only because of the compounds! Tnx Doc...very good Topic👍🍀🏋️‍♂️

@Jaang29 2 года назад

thank you for confirming there is a difference via injecting subQ Enanthate, you what IS the difference ? thank you for your time Dr. Stevens. Cheers from Miami, FL, USA.

@spankyblack6119 6 месяцев назад

Your information here is very helpful. Thank you. So all the stuff I've been watching on RU-vid may be American numbers. I'm under the impression that my Testosterone should be around 1000 with the free testosterone around 35. Is this correct? So here in Canada, I dont know what numbers they use but the Dr here said that "35" is a "normal high" They must be using free testosterone reading only. Right? The Dr said that my bloodwork came back at 8.3. Then he said that this is a "normal low" I don't think he knows what he's talking about. I told him for my lifestyle I need to be "normal high". I literally needed to fight with him to put me on TRT. Finally, he did. Does any of his stuff make sense to you Dr Stevens?

@JJ-hs1ep 8 месяцев назад

Ive had them all even a cocktail mix of the bunch.. Can u please recommend me what to use for a testosterone level of 0.4 🙏🙏🙏 I need treatment im very low

@francislee174 Год назад

Very informative. Thanks a ton

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

No problem

@mce3210 Год назад

It’s better to do subQ for bodybuilding too? Even with testo E?

@lancemccarthy4751 2 года назад

how can you get stable Testosterone Cypionate from canada ? since we can only injected every 2 weeks or is that good

@ranthony2714 3 года назад

Hello Dr, quick question. My specialist is recommending taking cyp every two weeks to start. I have been reading that no less then once a week is recommended to avoid any highs and lows. What do you suggest?

@NCHAMM3R 2 года назад

definitely every week bro

@jakeman025 Год назад

It depends if you’re willing to do it yourself. If you can do it yourself and have unlimited syringes the best way to do it is 0.3 a day. That way it matches your body on how you naturally produce testosterone and how the testes do it.

@nick08841 4 года назад

Is there a price difference?

@ronny6458 6 месяцев назад

Your just a ball of energy Doctor !! 💪💪🇨🇦☃️😆

@themenshealthclinic 6 месяцев назад

Ha! Thank you (I think) 😎

@ronny6458 6 месяцев назад

@@themenshealthclinic love your vids ❄️☃️🇨🇦☕️☕️

@cryptobro9793 3 года назад

Thanks for the great info, I've been on test / cypionate for few years. Bout to switch and try Xyosted / Enanthate. Hope its as effective as cypionate.

@commentscopyrightattorney5543 2 года назад

Hows it? though i don't imagine you noticed any difference i'd like to hear from the horses mouth.

@septimustyrannis321 2 года назад

Yes I too would also like to know if it’s any better

@elliotrose8836 2 года назад

How come your swtiching to Enathate?

@wabbas1455 Год назад

How was the test cypionate

@davidjonburke2729 Год назад

Do you think the 2 have different effects on the blood thickness, specifically hemoglobin hemocratic?

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

@crazyworld7219 3 года назад

Thank you for video, got good information from it. I’m just a little confused as I suffer with adhd . If I’ve been taking enanthate 250mg twice a week and now changing to cyiponate 200mg a week. Should I take more cyiponate to make the difference up or just stick to the same amount of shots twice a week? Hope I hear back from you thank you

@themenshealthclinic 3 года назад

This is a conversation to be had with your prescribing doctor 👍

@andrewwright. 2 года назад

@@themenshealthclinic ugl lab Dr type person hahaha

@pooterboots Год назад

Sounds like your not on trt bro hahaha

@slaytanic921 5 месяцев назад

That’s either a cycle or the gear is bunk.

@OGG619 Год назад

What are your thoughts on xyosted?

@Plough78 2 часа назад

Hi Robert. I will take test E as a first cycle 🔃... How long is it safe for me to pin 250mg a week... I'll be working out most days.. Cardio mornings lifting most evenings *Plough* 🎉

@joelnevarez3058 Год назад

What's a good recommended dose for a first time user of testosterone Enanthate I don't know if my age matter but I'm going to be 35 this year

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

Whatever dose your prescribing clinician suggests 👍

@MiScusi1980 8 месяцев назад

I'm 43 and thinking of going on testosterone but not sure what 1 to go on I was on test E a few years ago and honestly felt the best I've felt in years so leaning towards going back on that.

@Benjipee77 Месяц назад

And?..

@MiScusi1980 Месяц назад

@@Benjipee77 and what?

@thomaseynon6205 Год назад

@dr. Robert Stevens I have a question. Knowing individuals vary (size, tolerance, test levels, blood testing, etc), do you typically have a daily dosage starting point for sub Q (stomach injections)? For example, if a bottle of Testosterone cypionate is labeled at 250mg per ML, would a typical patient begin at a daily dosage of .10 to .20ml?

@francislee174 Год назад

Stomach injections will leave quite visible marks. Just do intra muscular ventrogluteal injection. Chill the needle tip beforehand, remove the air bubble, disinfect injection site beforehand, inject bezel up at a perpendicular angle to the skin, should be less painful than a bee sting or even a splinter. If you’re serious enough to do TRT (steroids at low dose) the least you can do is be serious (not a baby) about your method of administration.

@francislee174 Год назад

Also, cypionate is 125/ml 250 is enanthate. They are different concentrations because they’re comprised with different solvents. If you’re not trying to build muscle, 150mg cypionate per week, split injections intramuscular is how I would advise a friend.

@thomaseynon6205 Год назад

@@francislee174 thanks for the feedback. Ended up going with a mild daily dose of .12 ml each morning. It’s definitely not a physical enhancer whatsoever. But the quality of life has much improved, which was the overall goal heading into my later years. Smaller insulin type pins have been perfect, with a very slight pinch..

@francislee174 Год назад

@@thomaseynon6205 glad you’re feeling better. I’m concerned with the gym, as I’m quite young, and in no way need this stuff. Whatever the minimum effective dosage is for you, enjoy

@JackyTMusic Год назад

If you 'in no way need this stuff' then you need to go treat your body dysmorphia or other mental issues causing you to mess with your natural state mate. Do not experiment with something that can cause permanent damage

@Eddiep80 5 месяцев назад

Does test C burn and hurt days later like Test E?…… Test E suuuucks for PIP

@williamblankenship6501 6 месяцев назад

I prefer IM over any other method. Once per week, because yes, blood concentrations aren't as stable as microdosing, but I get the psychological effects of feeling like I'm "on testosterone " plus, if you get the dosage right, you won't experience any fade. For those who don't know what fade is, it's feeling good for the first part of the week but then feeling laggy towards the end of the week and you find yourself waiting for the next injection. My Dr prescribes me 160mg a week and on day 7 I'm still in the 900's so there is no fade

@andrewwright. 2 года назад

Thank you, about to swap to cyp

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

Our preferred ester is Cypionate 👍

@andrewwright. 2 года назад

@@themenshealthclinic thank you for the reply. I have a question, I'm 43, went the ugl route to solve testosterone issues and it works well, feel normal again and I'm only doing the standard 140mg p/w. The question is...can I come to you and have a prescription for test, understanding my test levels will seem normal/high? Or would you want me to stop using before you would treat me? I'm trying to get away from the ugl part. I have a great source but I'd rather have a legitimate source.

@karlwashere123 3 года назад

I love it when smart people are Straight Shooters. Thanks Doc.

@adoniscyp7904 Год назад

Would it be effective to take cypionate subcutaneously once a week? 250mg

@JJ-hs1ep 8 месяцев назад

Weird never had lumps I used em all

@drjohnsonsaysnigga 3 года назад

Decent vid, cheers.

@bigdan9850 3 года назад

Doctor Robert would you be able to recommend a men's health clinic that has the same approach to TRT As you In or around the Toronto area?

@themenshealthclinic 3 года назад

Apologies, I have no idea. We have patients from 30 countries, outside of the UK, come to our clinic.

@jcbanbury Год назад

Dude hes British in the UK

@karlwashere123 3 года назад

I was doing 125 every 3 days and it came on like a truck. It was actually quite scary. I had a bad experience hitting a blood vessel the first time which did not put me on a great path. I'm thinking about taking way less and doing it daily because 125 every three days (which I was told isn't that much) seem to be too much for me. Considering its initial intensity I should have been in way better cardiovascular shape to be starting the dose I started. After my 4th Dost I literally had to take a knee at Walmart shopping. I felt my blood pressure was going to explode. Red blood cells we're giving me a headache. My advice to anybody starting trt is start low. Be in shape before you start. It was way stronger for me if then people prescribed.

@allegorx58 3 года назад

I mean that’s a pretty big dose man

@primalspiritfitnessstirlin6126 3 года назад

Most trt is 100mg a week or 75...

@benjaminthomas7164 2 года назад

Yea, was going tonsay 25/30 every other day would be way more beneficial. The does your on is more of a blast

@elliotrose8836 2 года назад

125 every three days, bloody hell dude that was a lot. I'm a complete noob but all the research I have done so far has led me on to believe you should start with 100mg a week, 125 every 3 days I think puts you into supraphysiological conditions

@chadashton7029 Год назад

@@elliotrose8836 Not uncommon to be started on 200mg per week and move up or more likely down from there depending on blood work and how the person feels. I'm on 150mg per week and that's a pretty common dose. 100mg would be on the low side but if the results are there...then that's great.

@ddotmuzik5324 3 года назад

Hi, just seen your vid, thanks! Quick question: i was taking Cyp for the first 4 months of being on TRT (200mg per 2 weeks, 1 jab)... i then started ethanate but with 300mg per 1 jab a week, with cyp i never experienced any discomfort, felt great. Been on ethanate for now 4 weeks tmoz (1 300mg jab per week) and ive started to experience PIP, no bruising or nothing but just (i know ive had a jab) if that makes sence, it lasts for nearly 4-5 days, wernt sure wether my body is rejecting it, is my body actually receiving the test shot? Will i feel the same as when taking cyp, as i say its nearly 4 weeks, do i need to give my body time to get used to the ethanate, im doing the exact same thing when i was doing cyp, if u could get back to me that would be great thanks. Keep up the content.

@mitchellnova324 3 года назад

That’s quite a big jump in levels. You’ll feel better off of the enanthate IMO. Especially since it’s over double the dose that you were taking before. I’ve experienced PIP with every single kind of test you can imagine and also different manufacturers etc.. the biggest issue is HOW you do it, and the carrier oil. 300mg per week is a lot more than 200mg per 2 weeks. You’ll feel way better mate, and test out different injection sites. I find the best in my quads and also in my side delts.

@gussstavo 11 месяцев назад

Enanthate hurts

@jamesbarnes4964 4 года назад

my test E is suspended in grapeseed oil is that the same as sunflower?

@MegaHowtoMan 3 года назад

No.

@dannyj77dj 2 года назад

Mine is in rapeseed

@sterlingnumba7651 Год назад

Mine is in Nonceseed

@smashandrews3493 2 месяца назад

Olive oil ?

@deanpartridge3403 2 года назад

Hi doc how do i go about getting a subscription please

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

To be considered as a patient, please email info@themenshealthclinic.co.uk

@Gelufrizeru 7 дней назад

Hello i m from Romania, i m 38, i do sport but i want to do trt, some help here pls!

@epoxidelicker 4 года назад

how much can a low fat diet reduce t levels?

@themenshealthclinic 4 года назад

Zuckt Dichmann low fat diets are dumb when you appreciate the role of fats in energy production, nerve function, steroid hormone production, etc. So there is no quantitative figure because you need fats!

@stephenlucy1818 Год назад

Hi doc. Will 1ml of 250mg cyp every 10 days make your hair fall out

@brandondenson571 Год назад

Have you heard of any cases of acid reflux/heartburn as a result of xyosted sub q injections?

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

No.

@Combat_Carl Год назад

My doctor wanted me to switch from bi monthly intramuscular cypionate to weekly sub q enanthate. Problem is I was taking 160mg cypionate and now am on 75mg enanthate. He said the 10 mg difference over 2 weeks is negligible and I wouldn’t notice it. I’m only 1 week in and don’t feel different or worse. Should I be concerned or when would I typically notice the deficiency if it were to present itself?

@rjthomasindyusa Год назад

Why did the doctor want you to switch over? I have high blood pressure on test cypionate.... I need to try another ester of carrier oil...

@Combat_Carl Год назад

@@rjthomasindyusa Basically to get around insurance being so restrictive on refills as I run out before they allow my next fill from time to time. He can give me free samples when and if that happens. I took my second dose of enanthate last week and it left me with a painful lump in my stomach that lasted several days. I want to switch back. My wife is good about injecting me with the cypionate

@rjthomasindyusa Год назад

@@Combat_Carl Are you taking one shot a week?

@Combat_Carl Год назад

@@rjthomasindyusa I switched back to the cypionate every 14 days. Forget that other crap. And after all that, my insurance is finally playing nice.

@robynbrockhoeft5210 11 месяцев назад

Have you found a difference w empower pharmacy vs drug store FDA TST cyponaite? FDA seems not to hurt w Olive Oil. Va @grape seed oil “. Yes lumps.

@tonypontious2589 Год назад

I had a vasectomy when I was 32 I'm 69 now, and have honestly never felt the same since then. I know they say that vasectomy doesn't effect testosterone, but that is a lie from the devil. I am 69 now and tried reversals 2 times creams pellets cypionate and now just starting Xyosted. It has been a night mare since the vasectomy. My question here is how many of you guys on TRT have had a Vasectomy?

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

Lots of anecdotes and it makes perfect sense that cutting the vas d would cause subsequent dysregulation as sperm are still being produced by the testes!

@piethein7564 10 месяцев назад

Same here brother It cost me all i held dear In Holland they warn you for the possibility then they say it's fixable with a simple cream I never noticed the downfall till it was too late they told my (ex)wife to keep an eye on me But she didn't Life been fucked ever since Stay strong 🇳🇱🏴‍☠️

@chaitanyachaudhari6635 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing such an insight without hesitation. Like you said they claim the procedure doesn’t change much, but in reality it’s like reversing our manhood by more than 50%. Stay strong

@tonypontious2589 9 месяцев назад

@@piethein7564 Sorry I just saw your comment. I’m sorry for your experience also. I am realizing more about how Satan works. He is a master of deception and the father of lies. He has the whole world believing that mutilating your body is a good thing to do. How insane is that? I’m sorry that your ex wife didn’t help out. Mine was the one that suggested that I get a vasectomy. She is also my ex wife now. Just like Eve got Adam to take a bite of the apple.

@tonypontious2589 9 месяцев назад

@@chaitanyachaudhari6635 thank you for your comment. I would have to say that it affects every aspect of your life. A man was born to be fruitful and multiply when you take that away what do you have left of your manhood?

@Drillah44 Год назад

75Mg Subcutaneous Monday And Thursday For 6 Weeks

@Youssef.1265 6 месяцев назад

Does he really work with you?

@miamianz 2 года назад

just started trt /cypionate first shot. omg it burns and ive never had gonorrhea but if i ever did this is how i assume it would feel. subcut on stomach. note to self im going to have my dr give me a smaller needle. is this normal if it is i guess ill get used to it but if anyone has this occur after a shot? thanks.

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

Post injection pain is very rare, I would discuss injection technique with your prescribing clinician 👍

@golfingfan3619 Год назад

What’s weight dosage for test w a concentration of 250 cypionate? Bc I tried it at 1 ml and I was trying out the normal 200 w 1 ml and oh man my BP went up liie a rocket! I got a bit scared ofc it lasts in the system 8-10 days b4? It leaves the body ! Amd how does it work for let say some one who wants try test but it’s much higher like if the concentration was 350’or higher what the best thing to start with? 1/2 of Cc or less maybe?? Ok thanks guys

@themenshealthclinic Год назад

Please speak to your prescribing doctor

@golfingfan3619 Год назад

@@themenshealthclinic I did go get some help it was just that since it was higher concentration of the cyp in mid use test cypionate should be done at half if I did 1 ml then only 100 mg or 125 would of been good! I’m ok tg so it can be done w every 5-6 days for 125 a week injections I guess I f up the amount I was on! And I used a higher bottle w more concentration 👀👀❤️❤️

@Khaanwavingflag Год назад

hello i have injection first time yesterday 250mg cypionate. Almost more than 24 hours still no any feeling in my body what happened help me

@Youssef.1265 6 месяцев назад

It takes 6 weeks to work. He likes to continue on continuous injection.

@badgerb 6 месяцев назад

PP 4.5 day half life (enanthate 4.5 days) cyp 8 days. HUGE difference

@themenshealthclinic 6 месяцев назад

^incorrect

@badgerb 6 месяцев назад

@@themenshealthclinic I'm sorry you're misinformed No ester 20 hours Ace 1.5 day Prop 2-3 days Phenylprop 3.5-4.5 days Enanthate 4.5-7 days Cypionate 5-8 days Incorporate 9-12 days Undecanoate 15-20 days These are half life values not how long it is in your blood stream. You can research these if you wish the information is readily available across many peer studied documents. Take care "Dr"

@user-ck3yt2ym5w 4 месяца назад

How much week test cypionate ?🙏

@themenshealthclinic 4 месяца назад

Depends on the individual

@shukazlan740 5 месяцев назад

For build more muscle,enathe or cypionate bettet?

@stigero 4 месяца назад

they are pretty similar, i doubt youll notice any difference

@williamfoley5687 Год назад

Taking T Cypiote for 2 mos and nothing is happening!Whats up with that.?300 mg gel....

@michaelstewart4038 Месяц назад

Transdermal applications are not consistent. Go IM or SubQ. Topicals are more expensive also.

@corymacdonald2087 2 года назад

Any anxiety with test prop or test cyp?

@thenextgen5427 2 года назад

I would say no

@nikooliver1 2 года назад

@@thenextgen5427 how about test E? No anxiety as well? Im planning test e for my depression and anxiety and build more muscle

@corymacdonald2087 2 года назад

Dose test-c have to be inter muscular

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

It depends on the carrier oil. The Cypionate we utilise uses olive oil, so is normally very well tolerated s/c

@wmendozatrucking Год назад

What if you mix em??

@gussstavo 2 месяца назад

Why would you? Just try

@rickycarfan54 2 года назад

what about the difference between propionate to enanthate?

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

The length of the carbon atom chain which relates to the length of time said chain is cleaved within the liver

@johannvanderschyff7735 2 года назад

Hi. I am 63. I was told to do 0,5ml once a week. I want to start using it because I am tired every day even though I get about 8 hours sleep a day. I took 5 Bco tabs a day and dit nothing. I am a very active person and have done sport all my life. Is 0,5ml too little to stsrt with.

@themenshealthclinic 2 года назад

Always follow the advice of your prescribing clinician who will titrate your dose according to affect 👍

@MRitterH 3 года назад

subq gives me horrible lumps that lasts weeks, back to IM

@harvestblades 3 года назад

have you tried daily shallow muscular using a 29g insulin syringe? Kind of best of both worlds from what I have been reading.

@MRitterH 3 года назад

@@harvestblades yes thats my current way of doing it, works great

@NCHAMM3R 2 года назад

@@harvestblades you mean injecting 200mg but split into 7 daily pins?

@MattBonnell-ej9mx 3 месяца назад

Only joking I love him really

@themenshealthclinic 3 месяца назад

*awkward 😬

@englishfam9675 4 месяца назад

Iv never seen cyp at 125mg per 1ml

@gussstavo 2 месяца назад

I have one 100mg/ml its rare af but you can get that in south america

@Semaj.18272 11 месяцев назад

No wonder why when Inject in gluteus and not deep enough takes time to hit me !!!!! Great video

@themenshealthclinic 11 месяцев назад

Thank you 🙏

@Pest87 4 года назад

Is it true enanthate more often aromatizes less than cypionate?

@themenshealthclinic 4 года назад

Ivan Mihov no

@Pest87 4 года назад

@@themenshealthclinic Im for 4 months injecting every day 20mg sustanon sub-q. I had my low t symptoms relieved, but Im waking up often 5-6 AM with rush of energy that I believe is a cortisol spike(I measured saliva cortisol and it was high that time). Do you think changing to enanthate can improve that? Is it possible the short esters in the sustanon to cause that cortisol spike? Thanks dr Stevens

@sundvallen 4 года назад

The longer the ester, the more the aromatisation.

@claudiodominguez. 3 года назад

@@sundvallen depends on how often and how much, everyone responds differently, have your blood levels checked. Splitting up your cyp weekly dose into two IM shots every 3 1/2 days will help to keep your levels from spiking high.

@francislee174 Год назад

So basically cypionate is twice as expensive because it’s half the concentration?