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The #1 Parallel Compression Mistake 

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Are you making this big mistake with parallel compression? By the end of this video, you'll know why parallel compression might be hurting your mixes rather than helping, and my special technique to fix it.
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@masteringcom
@masteringcom 4 года назад
Dylan here. Make sure to stick around to the end of the video to see my completely unscripted meltdown that my editor decided to leave in for laughs. 😬😬😬
@jean-michelbalaguer6709
@jean-michelbalaguer6709 3 года назад
its a tongue twister for sure! :-)
@VINISAMPLES
@VINISAMPLES 3 года назад
This is such high-quality advice. Straight to the point, not too simple/beginner, not too complicated. BTW for my FL Studio gang : you can duplicate the plugin you are using for the initial track's volume automation, put it onto the parallel compression track's insert and link the gain knob to the same initial automation!
@cristianpintormino
@cristianpintormino 2 года назад
I was looking for this! I usually add a DCA channel to any processed one that I am going to automate to avoid the pre-fader problem. So, just to make sure I get your point right. If I set the compressor output gain on the bus channel to the same automation clip created for the DCA channel fader, will that be okay?
@anazi
@anazi 4 года назад
Now I can finally say I am no longer a beginner because I understood and followed every single step even though I used a totally different DAW.
@cekirdekci32
@cekirdekci32 11 месяцев назад
if that DAW is Ableton can you explain it to me too 🤣i m already lost at min 11.30
@Artersa
@Artersa 7 месяцев назад
@@cekirdekci32It isn’t Ableton. Basically, send your dry vocal AND the compressed vocal to a bus or group. Then automate the volume of the bussed/grouped signal.
@makeartnotcontent
@makeartnotcontent 2 месяца назад
@@cekirdekci32 STEP ONE: Vocal track 1 = your vocal STEP TWO: create new audio track > change audio from to "vocal track 1" and put compressor on this one STEP THREE: Select both tracks and right click to "Group" these 2 tracks and you can now automate the new GROUP track moving your vocal + vocal parallel at the same time
@alexeysmirnovguitar
@alexeysmirnovguitar 4 года назад
Andrew Scheps uses a lot of parallel compression but he doesn’t use pre fader sends in his workflow AT ALL... go watch any oh his masterclasses, all his sends are post fader. In Reaper and Studio One professional any plugin can be routed in a parallel chain... so no problem at all. Basically he solves the issue that logic has) also I don’t see any problem in post fader sends to parallel compressor. It’s rather natural for parallel compressor to relax a bit when the dry signal goes down in volume. In parallel chains we usually want to slam the compressor really hard, mush harder than in series mode... in this case 2-3 dB doesn’t change the tone dramatically. So I don’t see any problem at all. Also I don’t see any need to feed the reverb with compressed signal... but this may be debatable.
@musikusmaximus
@musikusmaximus 4 года назад
1. Just use the gain plugin at the end of each channel for volume automations? no? 2. Just use the mix knob on a sophisticated compressor plugin? no? 3. Great video anyway.
@Pikachu-o2j
@Pikachu-o2j 3 года назад
honestly I used the gain plugin again at the end of the vocal chain to make my life easier. It works
@headphonejack9479
@headphonejack9479 4 года назад
I'd argue the #1 mistake when dealing with parallel compression is actually low cutting the parallel bus which introduces nasty phase issues and results in less bass because of cancelation. A lot of people don't notice that and just mix against this problem.
@ephjaymusic
@ephjaymusic 4 года назад
never hi-pass more than the original signal feeding the compressor.
@thisisDeus
@thisisDeus 4 года назад
Wow I never thought of this
@Melvin7727
@Melvin7727 4 года назад
Dead on. EQ-ing the parallel without understanding it will introduce phasing (and that can work for you or against you). That's for sure the most common
@AlexLapugean
@AlexLapugean 4 года назад
If the track does not have tight transients, you can get away with a linear phase EQ if you need to EQ.
@thierry.lavallee
@thierry.lavallee 3 года назад
Mmm. Would love to see a video about this problem. Thanks for pointing out!
@jonasschwartzman2985
@jonasschwartzman2985 4 года назад
Would you effectively be doing the same thing if your compressor has a "mix" knob that lets you adjust how much signal is compressed and how much isn't?
@personanongrata1308
@personanongrata1308 4 года назад
HA! I thought I was really smart just because I used Parallel Comp in the first place...this was pure gold
@newguy6935
@newguy6935 4 года назад
Just curious... Would it be an idea to just include both tracks, main and compressed, into a summed track stack? That way, you'd keep all the tracks together on the mixing board and, when the track stack is closed, have only one channel strip showing on the board, saving space and the trouble of having to navigate between three channel strips. Open the summed track stack, make some adjustments, then close the track stack. Wa Laaaa... Everything is together. You could then, easily automate both the main and compressed tracks using a gain plugin on the summed track.
@johnhowarthmusic8706
@johnhowarthmusic8706 4 года назад
One of the best, helpful, clear, simply explained presentations I have watched. THANK you.
@masteringcom
@masteringcom 4 года назад
No problem!
@RaduJon
@RaduJon 4 года назад
Don’t forget to set the parallel compression track to Mono and you’ll actually find yourself in a good spot then 😉👍
@OfficialTechnician
@OfficialTechnician 4 года назад
What benefits do you get out of doing this bro? I'm eager to know as I only recently starting using parallel compression and want to do it the right way
@joshhollandmusic
@joshhollandmusic 4 года назад
Tehknician Music you save computer DSP for one.
@ryanedwardmusic
@ryanedwardmusic 4 года назад
@@OfficialTechnician you don't need to.
@hendrix5757
@hendrix5757 4 года назад
@@OfficialTechnician Yeah man, this suggestion is honestly for the birds. Think about it. A popular application for parallel compression is on drums, right? Well, drums are typically consisted of multiple elements that are panned to occupy different spaces in the stereo field. If you, or if you've seen another mix engineer output each drum track to a single drum buss, 9/10 it's gonna be a stereo buss, not mono. Generally, it's ideal to configure any return buss' to consistently reflect whatever is being sent to it. So if you're creating a send from a single channel (mono) track (i.e. vocal, like the example in video), you're likely gonna setup a mono return buss. Conversely, if you're sending from a stereo track or from multiple mono tracks, then a stereo (multichannel) return buss would likely be the most practical! Always use your ears and best judgement!
@BluesLicks101
@BluesLicks101 4 года назад
Do you mean setting the parallel compression track as 2 mono inputs that can be individually automated? Or do you mean muxing the parallel compression track (stereo input) to a single mono track?
@AndreHansen96
@AndreHansen96 4 года назад
Short version: use parallell compression/processing on initial audio, then output the signal to a new aux for volume control without messing with the processing, just like with a VCA.
@jeroenfigee
@jeroenfigee 4 года назад
Yeah,... I was also thinking VCA. An using clipgain at specific points with the vocal and I always assumed that would turn down de sendlevel of the parallel compressor down aswell. I am gonna check now, just to make sure :-) // a few minutes laterrr // yep - works like a charm ! :-)
@NirdeshChaudhari29
@NirdeshChaudhari29 4 года назад
God is here 🙏🏻♥️😹
@bwhog
@bwhog 3 года назад
I think the term you're looking for is "group fader". I typically do automation for intelligibility/enhancement on on the track and level automation on the group fader. Since we have almost unlimited bus faders in DAWs, there's no reason NOT to bus everything before putting it into the master bus fader.
@gabrielstaniecki
@gabrielstaniecki 2 года назад
you can also assign any faders to VCA masters and have even better control
@suharasp
@suharasp 3 года назад
Can’t we just copy and paste the volume automation of the original track to the parallel track?
@ckowalski1029
@ckowalski1029 3 года назад
Ha. Never thought about this. Have you given this a try?
@AceDeclan
@AceDeclan 2 года назад
starts at 2:15
@shane2973
@shane2973 4 года назад
I can appreciate your tip with extremely dynamic tracks/songs. I guess my perspective is that with a post fader send, as Andrew uses does, you have an exact copy of track A going to your parallel compressor...I prefer a post fader send myself. My 1st thought is that if you are needing to change the level of a track so much that a couple of db going to your parallel compressor is affected that much you may want to address that prior to the automation of the song, but if the song you are working on is that dynamic, extreme volume changes, this is a good way to address those obstacles and create a nice wet/dry balance between the tracks. In my experience if a vocal, specifically, is getting so lost at certain parts of a song during the automation process-which I try and leave until the end-the issue is, for me, more of a frequency thing than a level thing. Certain frequencies are stepping on the vocal causing it to not cut through and be articulate enough. another thought is that when you adjust the dry volume going into the parallel comp it can help act as an energy boost for an instrument. So if I want more snare drum for a particular part of a song and increase the level of the dry track and the send is post fader, it can give you more energy making the snare sound as though it is being hit harder... creating a dynamic that is pleasing...so many ways to do this stuff...I absolutely love it!
@rhythmjones
@rhythmjones 3 года назад
Just copy and paste the automation curves.
@RomerAmbrus
@RomerAmbrus 3 года назад
Too much talking, wasting my time.
@enigmazach
@enigmazach 4 года назад
I get comparable results by simply adding a compressor with a dry/wet mix knob, slamming the signal, and then backing off on the 'wetness' to taste. I get parallel compression in seconds.
@headphonejack9479
@headphonejack9479 4 года назад
@MomoTheBellyDancer Not every compressor comes with a mix knob. Admittingly most of them do now but in principle you make yourself dependant on specific plugins. The tip in the video works with everything and in every DAW environment. Also, you have more control with a bus/send concept. Independent panning for example. Or more specific tasks like emulating a drum room mic.
@enigmazach
@enigmazach 4 года назад
@3ple Correct, not exactly the same. But I prefer finding a nice balance of the "hot/"cold" and simply readdressing the overall volume, versus setting up the traditional parallel routing -- just for convenience's sake.
@alexeysmirnovguitar
@alexeysmirnovguitar 4 года назад
MomoTheBellyDancer not at all. Parallel compression is not only about the compression itself, but about THE TONE OF THE ACTUAL COMPRESSOR.
@u9s0e9r
@u9s0e9r 4 года назад
Zachary Dufrene I was wondering the same... why not use a wet/dry function? Much easier. Someone said that not every compressor has a wet/dry function... in these cases, at least in Ableton, there’s a way around it :)
@alexeysmirnovguitar
@alexeysmirnovguitar 4 года назад
@@u9s0e9r good point. Modern DAWs like Reaper and Studio one professional has dry/wet function onboard
@rirockcumberlandite7212
@rirockcumberlandite7212 4 года назад
In logic won’t a summing track stack accomplish the same thing without having to create sends.
@richardwoods9871
@richardwoods9871 4 года назад
RI Rock Cumberlandite was just thinking the same thing, then just automate the stack … seems a lot less hassle
@MadaAtoms
@MadaAtoms 3 года назад
Can you explain if you route multiple vocals to a vocal bus how would apply reverb or delays individually ie some doubles or adlibs you want to have a specific delay but each time you change the reverb or delay for doubles or adlibs or harmonies can you use the same vocal bus and use send on track pre vocal bus?
@AkilisMusic
@AkilisMusic 4 года назад
Great tutorial!
@mostlyharmless88
@mostlyharmless88 4 года назад
Great tip! That opening "dust to dust" song makes me dread clicking on your videos though. It's like Creed mixed with Nickelback. n
@darrenmiffitt6353
@darrenmiffitt6353 4 года назад
Very true. Especially considering that Dylan’s voice is calm, reassuring and relaxing to listen to.
@dofuxie2135
@dofuxie2135 4 года назад
It could be worse, it could have been Maroon 5
@zendakk
@zendakk 4 года назад
Nice 1st World Problems you got there.
@boboneil849
@boboneil849 Год назад
Its not a mistake. Michael Brauer mix vocals into parallel compressors. so they react to automation. and its a part of his method..
@DaveJLamar
@DaveJLamar Год назад
But all those parallel tracks are still routed to a main aux track. So then he can automate the back end track that feeds into the compressors if he wants more or less compression, then he can automate the overall balanced vocal. The examples showed here in this video was how I use to route my parallel compression. Now I do a mix of this and what Michael Brauer does. Best of both worlds! :)
@boboneil849
@boboneil849 Год назад
@@DaveJLamar The header is a lil bit clickbaity, because its not a mistake its a different approach with different result 🤷‍♀
@effsixteenblock50
@effsixteenblock50 4 года назад
How about duplicating the track, slam the duplicated track and commit (you can commit because you've still got the original). Automate to taste. Won't work so well in DAWs that don't do latency compensation.
@richardaling5278
@richardaling5278 4 года назад
I duplicate the channel? Maybe i am the idiot...;)
@markusineichen1611
@markusineichen1611 4 года назад
thats exactly what i'm doing
@HitWaveMusic
@HitWaveMusic 2 года назад
Say "Sweet Compression Cheat Sheet Seat" 10 Times for a virtual cookie.
@ofelinto
@ofelinto Месяц назад
Great explanation. I just wished even more examples, but you definitely gave plenty already.
@daysteppin2
@daysteppin2 3 года назад
just for clarification, in logic you can copy and paste automation to another track by selecting the whole track automation and copy, select track you want to paste, then paste. Just in case someone needs that bit of info.
@funkuncle999
@funkuncle999 4 месяца назад
Would it be the same thing to make a summing stack of the dry and compressed vox tracks and apply your automation to that?
@jhizz93
@jhizz93 3 года назад
For some reason I feel like I'm in a scene of Sherlock Holmes when Dylan is explaining the real solution versus the one that creates another problem lol
@mitiasmirnovmusic
@mitiasmirnovmusic 3 месяца назад
One thing I don't understand here is when you say at 9:12 "The workaround for this would be to automate the parallel compression signal the exact same way". I understand you aren't doing this in the end, but surely that would be the exactly same thing as leaving the Dry Bus on post fader and then just automating as normal (thus it isn't a work-around just the same as leaving it on post-fader?)
@louisturse7396
@louisturse7396 4 года назад
You lost me when you said to create a new track for the vol track. Maybe a logic thing. The routing is funny in that view you are using. Side to side in logic. A mixer view might be better. think you should have shown it in the mixer view. Can you please explain for other DAW's like studio one. Thanks.
@Lostyron
@Lostyron 4 года назад
I think the "create a new track for volume" in Studio One would just be to create a new bus and route the send (parallele compression) + the original signal in, then start doing volume automation / reverb etc ... from that new bus (Studio One routing is way more intuitive than Logic / ProTools imo).
@junovue
@junovue Год назад
So let's say for my bus sends I usually have a couple delays and a couple reverbs. With the para comp on a new bus track, i would just route my reverb and delays to the send of the para and comp? and not separate sends on the track itself?
@natesanti
@natesanti 4 года назад
Control freaks have been doing this from the start, no names given, just the natural urge to control everything lol. I find that in the audio engineering world, things with complex explanations or fancy names are often done without thought to high detail oriented people, it's just a natural instinct to organize and control. I guess that's why they say certain people gravitate towards things that fit their personality. Awesome vid by the way, looking forward to more.
@TraceMeek
@TraceMeek Год назад
Thank you SO MUCH for this tutorial! This is pure gold. Question… now (in 2023) that Logic Pro offers “Track Stacks,” could the same be achieved by nesting the original vocal track within a track stack, and doing the volume automation (and reverb, etc.) there? (Assuming that the parallel send from the original track also gets nested into that same track stack.) If so, is it still important to switch to pre-fader versus post pan/fader? Does it make a difference if you’re not touching the automation of the original track any more? Many thanks again!
@conatus_in_a_cone
@conatus_in_a_cone 7 месяцев назад
omg thx a lot!
@georgekost7967
@georgekost7967 Год назад
Apologies if this notion has already been discussed (I'm late to this thread, it just having surfaced in my YT home)... but if the dry track needed level adjustment word-by-word wasn't it already messing with the compression threshold? (assuming that the adjustment was to normalize the level, as opposed to de-normalizing to intentionally make parts louder than others). Logically it seems that the adjusted dry track might *fix* the threshold variations instead of corrupting them. Awareness of the issue, though, will allow the competent mix engineer to employ the appropriate strategy to keep the parallel compression coordinated with the dry track.
@starman5754
@starman5754 2 месяца назад
The Studio One "splitter tool" in the insert path can get all your parallel compression, saturations and crushing done ahead of the panner and fader. You keep the "clean" signal feeding through and the split allows a parallel channel of plugins to operate on the signal then mix with the clean at the output of the splitter.
@PordYao
@PordYao 4 года назад
Do we need add reverb on that parallel compressed track?I was only add reverb on dry signal so will be :dry signal+compressed signal+ reverb(dry). Yours add 1 (compressed + reverb)?
@flamindigo
@flamindigo Год назад
The reason for the busses was pretty clear. The explanation of the track cluster was pretty vague. Maybe that is because I'm not used to looking at Ableton, and he didn't explain it very well.
@crisnla1
@crisnla1 3 года назад
dang how do I do this in ABLETON when I have multiple vocals? would it just be me grouping all the vocals and then adding the parallel compression, compressor to that group track? Thanks!
@idontknowwhatmyusernamesho5540
@idontknowwhatmyusernamesho5540 3 года назад
Couldn’t you just automate both the vocal tracks using a Logic summing group? Much faster, no?🤷🏾‍♂️🤨
@kirkacore8948
@kirkacore8948 4 года назад
Ive got ableton live with internal glue compressor which has a blend (wet/dry) controller. Is it the same thing as a parallel compression made with aux channel? And why not if the answer is no? Thank you!
@rm-a7328
@rm-a7328 4 года назад
what is about just a vca automation instead of the volume bus?
@tbhv
@tbhv 4 года назад
honestly this is a production topic that keeps me up at night because its so specific and enigmatic but also so real. Thanks for talking about it in so much detail!
@masteringcom
@masteringcom 4 года назад
Happy to help!
@tylerprice6964
@tylerprice6964 6 месяцев назад
dude it literally does.
@poposhaker
@poposhaker 3 года назад
wouldn't it be a solution to automate the clip gain and not the volume fader? 1. Automate Clip Gain 2. Setup Pre Fader Send 3. Enjoy
@RMRsavvy
@RMRsavvy 2 года назад
Great tutorial as always! Quick question btw. Could you just use the mix nob built in to the compressor and just automate that one track? Or is there a difference between doing that and this way of parallel compression?
@marc-paulgauthier8114
@marc-paulgauthier8114 8 месяцев назад
I wondered the exact thing. Anyone?
@arefinahmed8446
@arefinahmed8446 7 месяцев назад
Yes you can totally use the mix knob if the compressor has it. You don’t go the bus route at all in that case
@3issalsalibi
@3issalsalibi 4 года назад
Please stop teaching people how to make flat boring music with no dynamic. What you call “mistake” post fader - this exactly what make a mix breath - specially ITB mixes - keep the good work up
@Lennie_peled
@Lennie_peled 6 месяцев назад
question: can I group the parallel compression bus channel with the origin channel like you showed in your 10h course instead of making another volume bus output? thanks!
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 4 года назад
I just use pre-FX volume automation and a compressor that does dry/wet by itself. So I never even thought of these issues.
@jamesstonehouse3448
@jamesstonehouse3448 4 года назад
And for example, in Reaper the effects all have a wet/dry control
@AlexLapugean
@AlexLapugean 4 года назад
Well you still need to automate the volume AFTER the compressor, otherwise you still influence the level that goes into the compressor, therefore the compression amount. But indeed, using the dry/wet knob is basically parallel compression, although, I guess the downside for some would be that the knob is basically a balance between uncompressed/compressed, so by introducing the compressed signal, you decrease the volume of the uncompressed one. Many like keeping the same level as mixed, and just introduce the compressed one on top. Or even process the compressed one some more. So I guess it depends on what you want to do...
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 4 года назад
@@AlexLapugean I automate the volume before the compressor so the compressor acts more evenly. If the level needs to be structurally changed, I automate the volume after the compressor as well. The compressor I use has separate dry and wet sliders so it's exactly like parallel compression.
@AlexLapugean
@AlexLapugean 4 года назад
Cue Zephyr oh, did not see the separate dry/wet sliders in a compressor before, sure, that works, minus if you want effects on the compressed signal. But about automating volume before compressing, I am not sure. The threshold is set according to input volume, so if you lower the volume you get less compression, and vice versa. I see it being too unpredictable. But if it works for you, that’s what matters. In the end is about what your years tell you.
@erfho8y
@erfho8y 4 года назад
Or just use fabfilter's internal parallel compression?
@babakshm
@babakshm 4 года назад
Couldn't we just put a compressor which has the ability to mix the compressed signal on the vocal directly?!
@headphonejack9479
@headphonejack9479 4 года назад
Yes, but not every compressor comes with a mix knob.
@LosantoBeats
@LosantoBeats 4 года назад
In ableton you can probably achieve this easier with "chains".
@dow1800
@dow1800 4 года назад
Nice! but if you are using a compressor with Parallel Compression option you can just play with the automations right?
@karayuschij
@karayuschij 3 года назад
Why don't you use a VCA fader?? To only manage the volume the VCA fader is very more precise than a simple bus
@nonahyobusiness8063
@nonahyobusiness8063 4 года назад
Dylan - If you are tuning vocals you are the one making the BIG mistake. Leave the vocals to people that can actually f-cking sing.
@pedrorosa.musica
@pedrorosa.musica 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip, it`s a important idea that I don`t thought about! Buuuuut... Isn`t easy just copy the automation on original track? It`s fast using automation select tool (T+Q) + drag mouse on track area + ctrl C + ctrl V on the compression bus track + ajust position draging the automation. Any technical problem making this?
@MitchLucker28
@MitchLucker28 4 года назад
Depending on your daw in ableton for example your can just the audio effect rack for parallel processing and automation :)
@greenalderson7288
@greenalderson7288 4 года назад
@@MitchLucker28 i love ableton
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio 2 года назад
Wait people automate individual vocal tracks and don’t use volume buses?! This is a thing mixing engineers do?!
@jonmatthews4254
@jonmatthews4254 4 года назад
Can't you just use a compressor that has faders for dry and wet signal like Reaper's Cockos ReaComp?
@andreigheorghiu
@andreigheorghiu 5 месяцев назад
An easier way to do this is to send your vocal to a VCA. When you automate the vca volume, it will scale all your sends. Done
@jamesdoctor8079
@jamesdoctor8079 3 года назад
this isn’t really necessary if you’re doing parallel compression by reamping a hardware compressor out of logic and back in right? if you just make sure to send out the audio without any automation?
@rons6074
@rons6074 11 месяцев назад
U can record the Parrallel Compressed Audio as a new audio. & Then make the gain automation.
@DjRevolver
@DjRevolver 4 года назад
Summing Track on Logic Pro X does this for you
@brandon_expo
@brandon_expo 2 года назад
At 9:20 you say it's not easy to go back and forth copying the volume automation to avoid the inconsistency in compression, but can't you just copy that channel's automation and then paste it onto the return channel? At least on Ableton i know it could be done easily not so sure about logic. Great tutorial I really am just confused as to how this is the first video on parallel compression that covers this topic as an issue...
@joshd265
@joshd265 4 года назад
Or just use the mix knob on your compressor! :)
@jevanstastic
@jevanstastic 4 года назад
I was wondering about this. Is there any reason to do the routing Dylan describes here instead of using a mix knob on your compressor (assuming your compressor plug-in has a mix knob) ?
@norfsyq9660
@norfsyq9660 3 года назад
@@jevanstastic you can use the mix nob but using a send/bus gives you more control to shape your parallel track as much as you want. Like for instance if you want to add some analog sat, eq, and a limiter (which is what I do on my Parallel tracks) you have that option vs having to stick to one processing chain.
@jevanstastic
@jevanstastic 3 года назад
@@norfsyq9660 Smart! Thanks! There's also, I'm guessing, some benefit of leaving the uncompressed track as is, instead of having it as a percentage of compressed and not.
@norfsyq9660
@norfsyq9660 3 года назад
@@jevanstastic it’s really a creative choice more than a technical choice. It all depends on how much of the dynamics you want to let through but Yes, exactly!
@izvarzone
@izvarzone 3 года назад
I use it sometimes too, but with aux track, different routing is possible.
@marceloribeirosimoes8959
@marceloribeirosimoes8959 Год назад
Cool! That's the same we should do with all multi-mic, multi-source instruments like drums, bass, guitars, etc...
@paulchapman2184
@paulchapman2184 2 года назад
How about... Use a compressor with wet dry on the vocal track and then add another one after? Or... Vice versa?
@kramdellakram7247
@kramdellakram7247 4 года назад
If you're not utilizing Pre-Fader Sends..... are you even mixing?
@Dodod12342
@Dodod12342 4 года назад
use ableton live, create a parallel compression on your main lead vocal chain then gruop your compression with dry signal. Its easier to make parallel compression on ableton. dont waste your time on logic dude
@MukeshRathore
@MukeshRathore 3 года назад
Instead of doing all this we can simply use a plugin that has a mix knob. no need to have a aux .
@colliebeakers
@colliebeakers 3 года назад
Then you cannot add effects to only the compressed signal.
@Mainitube
@Mainitube 3 года назад
You can copy the vocal track to the Bus with the automation and then delete the audio but not the automation leaving the bus with the same automation as the vocal track.
@chris_share
@chris_share Год назад
Can't you use a pre-fader send and then group the two channels? Or use a VCA that controls both?
@joshuafrank869
@joshuafrank869 3 года назад
I don’t know I think copying pasting my rides onto my parallel bus is way easier
@mitchellshier2025
@mitchellshier2025 3 года назад
How would I do this on Ableton? you cannot send return tracks to a Bus, only another track! please someone help!
@michaeltablet8577
@michaeltablet8577 4 года назад
Thank you, I am a newbie and didn't know I was making these mistakes! This is a great help.
@musisikamar4724
@musisikamar4724 3 года назад
I find it a different ways in cubase.. Where in pre fader will affect the amount of signal send, while the post fader dont
@carlagallarday4994
@carlagallarday4994 3 года назад
Or... you could just adjust gain pre fader instead of automating the damn fader lol
@vallyexe
@vallyexe 4 года назад
God thank you for telling me what parallel compression actually is. Every video assumes I do!
@sysdevman
@sysdevman Год назад
Why not just bounce the original track with volume automation and use that instead?
@steveluk473
@steveluk473 Год назад
If we have to use a dedicated aux buss for each track for parallel comp,might as well use a compressor in the insert with a wet dry function….maybe I missed something….no offence, I’m just here to learn and this was explained really well…I understand pre and post fader very well
@CYB3RC0RP
@CYB3RC0RP 2 года назад
An obvious tip that could be easily articulated in a single sentence drawn out into a tedious 15 minute video.
@mixermantim
@mixermantim 2 года назад
you just went to fast for me and I'm sure there is a missing step in your process. I was lost at the part of making a new track. I hope you remake a video on this subject.
@clintonmaher6930
@clintonmaher6930 2 года назад
Or... Just use a compression plugin with a blend knob
@rashadcoes9043
@rashadcoes9043 3 года назад
Couldn't you just group the comp track and the vox track?
@tyalexandercheng
@tyalexandercheng 5 месяцев назад
What if you put your reverb on your original track and not your Vox volume track?
@almikkus79
@almikkus79 4 года назад
I'm a beginner in Cubase Pro. Will VCA faders do the same thing?
@joomlaserviceprovide
@joomlaserviceprovide 4 года назад
Can someone explain to me why one can't just put a compressor into the original audio channel and use the dry/wet setting to apply the parallel compression? (Ableton Live)
@dftweedie3021
@dftweedie3021 4 года назад
How about because many classic compressors emulations don't have a dry/ wet setting. If you noted the UAD 1176 in the video you'd see there is no 'mix knob.'
@izvarzone
@izvarzone 3 года назад
compressor (50% wet) -> compressor (50% wet) will sound different than original track + aux 50% wet (compressor -> compressor)
@Notinserviceij
@Notinserviceij 3 года назад
@@izvarzone no false
@Notinserviceij
@Notinserviceij 3 года назад
@@dftweedie3021 don't use those plugins for wet/dry compression then....or maybe stop getting hung up on gear and just use what you need for the situation
@dftweedie3021
@dftweedie3021 3 года назад
@@Notinserviceij you seem to have a lot to say, but perhaps you should read more carefully. I answered Aaron's question. You can't parallel compress with a compressor inserted that doesn't have a mix control. Perhaps you should stop getting hung up on presenting yourself as more knowledgeable than you are?
@charliekey2979
@charliekey2979 2 года назад
The "free cheat sheet seat" is not free if I have to see the long video to get it! Remember, time is money! I'm not falling in that crap.
@timflatus
@timflatus 3 года назад
Please have a word with your video editor. It does little for my confidence when the first thing I have to do is turn the volume down because your voice is hurting my ears.
@Jake_Bars
@Jake_Bars 3 года назад
Nice video, white talk, Logic Pro, fancy plugins, etc. You just got another subscriber! 🤘🏼 Thanks dude.
@Davier9999
@Davier9999 4 года назад
I am sorry, but this was too confusing. The routing of the solution lost me completly
@jacuhx
@jacuhx 2 года назад
so if you’re not using a send and simply duplicating the track there’s no problems to begin with right ?
@GospelDjshane
@GospelDjshane Год назад
This is super super awesome never heard it like this before 🙏🏽🤝🏽
@jaylackovic8341
@jaylackovic8341 2 года назад
I wanted to thank you for your explanation of compression parallel compression and volume busing. Whereas compression in and of itself can be confusing to say the least parallel compression can be even a bit more difficult to understand. And then to throw volume automation into a separate bus can completely confuse the thought process of how an instrument or vocals are processed. My mind very much wanted to get lost in this whole process but your explanation was very concise and understandable. Also a great workaround between pre and post fader. Thank you so much.
@TheGengenkila
@TheGengenkila 7 месяцев назад
Or you Can just create a return Channel yourself next to the instrument with the right rooting then just group it.
@0626love
@0626love 4 года назад
That compression cheat sheet suite is good SH*t!
@EdThorne
@EdThorne 2 года назад
Great video, thank you.
@msalcedoc92
@msalcedoc92 3 года назад
hey musician on a mission, your explanation is amazing but one thing I want to know is, how can I do the delay with this process? do I have to put another bus in the volume Vox for a delay ?
@pauledsall5849
@pauledsall5849 4 месяца назад
Can’t you duplicate the tracks and put them in a folder
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