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So the first thing I thought of when I saw 2014 draft being bad was, at least a pretty good current Phillie, meaning their own pick, Nola, is good. And then to find 3 other current Phillies who are also decent players was a bonus.
The worst thing that could happen to a young pitcher, worst than a Tommy John, is to be drafted or traded to Colorado. Coors will welcome you to the big leagues
There was a time when I lived in East Texas and I would often stop in Shepherd on my trips to Houston, since it's a nice and quaint little town. So I was pretty excited when Tyler Kolek was drafted second overall. It's a shame that Tyler's career never materialized, and the fact that Stephen was able to Majors this season may be one of life's greatest ironies. Anyways, fun video.
The most enduring image of Nick Gordon I have is him smacking the top of the Target Field dugout in celebration when Royce Lewis smashed a home run in the 2023 postseason. I don't know why that was the celebration he went with, but his brother includes "strange" in his name and doesn't believe that the moon is real. He's an international man of mystery, I guess.
@@TheManny717 Favorite fun fact on this: the second no. 1 overall is one of those three, a guy the Mets selected over Reggie Jackson because Reggie had a white (actually Mexican) girlfriend.
Should be noted that current Tokyo Giants #2 starter Foster Griffin was a competetive balance pick in this draft as well. While he never panned out in MLB, considering he's currently sporting an 80 FIP- in NPB, there was always something there
@@AndThatsBaseball Also, Tyler Beede was the Tokyo Giants' Opening Day starter in 2023 because the WBC meant that ace Shosei Togo wasn't rested enough, and I may be wrong, but I think he ended up having the worst season of any opening day starter in their 90 year history. 119 RA-, 121 FIP-, only 0.1 WAR
If you watch football and have some knowledge about older draft classes, for me as a Philly fan, this Phil's class is so close to the year we drafted Lane Johnson. Both years had such a high amount of busts and yet both our teams drafted one of the very few top guys that panned out.
And it's also hilarious how out of the hits here, almost every has made their career in philly/become a key piece this year. Nola, Hoffman, Schwarbs, and Trea is such a big list of guys for us
I remember that year well. Chip Kelly had just got hired and their was that linebacker/ Defensive end from Oregon that everybody assumed Philly would draft, but Miami nabbed him the pick before. Yeah...... I'd say Lane worked out lol
I would nominate Ubaldo Jiménez as the greatest starter in Rockies history. He had a 3.67 ERA , AT Coors (3.66 overall as a Rocky) compared to 5.07 for Marquez and 4.66 for Freeland.
It’s pretty incredible how the Astros drafted two of the biggest busts of all time with back to back #1 picks and still managed to win a World Series 3 years later
They also got Correa in 2012 then Bregman and Tucker in 2015, 3/5 first round picks being that good is nearly impossible. Just crazy that their misses were the biggest misses
This is easily the best sounding baseball channel on youtube. I've never enjoyed Fleetwood Mac as I did during the Jack Flaherty segment. The volume was perfectly understated and the rhythm of the video against this music is *chefs kiss*
Quick fact or whatever Bradley Zimmer was on the Rockies spring training team this year in 45 plate appearances his batting average was.378 and his on base was .430 He became expendable when they signed Jake cave. Justice for my goat Bradley Zimmer
Funny, mlb network yesterday posted a picture about how stacked the 2014 draft was. One guy was even arguing with me that matt Chapman and trea turner were on their way to the hall of fame
@@AndThatsBaseball what I said was that were some solid players in the draft, but nobody great or it being a "stacked" draft as MLB network classified it as and then I get clowns saying I don't know what I'm talking about and that Matt Chapman is a borderline hall of famer. The guy is a .250 hitter and doesn't even have 900 hits and is 31 or 32 years old I believe
While on the topic of the 2014 MLB season, we actually got a Home Run Derby format that was used for this only season. I read about it and I thought it was such a cool format. I have nothing against what Manfred did to the Home Run Derby, it’s just that we never got to see the 2014 Home Run Derby rules longer. :/ EDIT: Figured I’d bring the Derby up since it’s tomorrow.
As good as Aaron Nola's WAR and accumulation is, he is not getting in the HOF without any hardware. He has only one all star appearance and Top 3 Cy Young finish.
Nola was unironically a victim of his team. Having the best catcher in baseball when catching is at an all time low, JT Realmuto was essentially a lock for the Phillies, pushing him out at least twice
@@DFCwastakenthis also includes this year with all the selections from the Phillies. He should have at least 3-4 by now excluding what should’ve been an all star appearance this year.
i think aaron nola has to fight an uphill battle to even have a shot at cooperstown since he doesn’t have the accolades shame because he’s such a great pitcher
Did anyone else see the thumbnail and think the word next to the yellow line was "meth"? I immediately started wondering how many people from the 2014 draft are now doing meth lol.
@@AndThatsBaseballAlthough my cubs got a really good high school pitcher in that draft in Justin Steele although he was a 5th round pick so sadly not mentioned here
Nick Gordon is the Twins prospect of all time: toolsy as all heck and even more injury prone. They can field a whole lineup from just the last decade with those guys.
Just an extremely small note -- in MAY of 2017, Chris Sale was the best pitcher in baseball, and Kluber had a 5.06 ERA (seriously). His second half that year was one of the craziest runs I've ever seen, and as a Red Sox fan, it caused me great pain.
Connor Joe and Jameson Taillon both having cancer and injuries derail their careers is so disappointing. Especially since in a different world you could see them being cornerstones for the Pirates for years if not for their health
Thanks for recognizing how talented Nola really is. It’s a shame he’s so criminally underrated and he totally deserved to be an all star this year. Philly needs to give him more love to say the least. If he did then he’d have more than just one all star selection. Regardless I think the odds are in his favor to make it to Cooperstown as of right now. Accolades should play a smaller part than they do when it comes to that stuff.
I got to see Tyler Kolek pitch on several occasions during his final pro season (2019) in Clinton, Iowa. He always pitched like he was afraid of getting hurt again, and never seemed to be able to find the zone. Such a shame; he seemed like such a gracious guy.
Everything I read said he was an incredibly hard worker and good dude. The size, the character, and the velo were all there. That's why scouting in this sport is so difficult.
@@AndThatsBaseball it really is. I usually don't like fleetwood mac too much but damn even I love that one (the Yondu scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 2 helped a lot)
That turner pick/trade haunts me. When I saw the padres got wil Myers for a ptbnl I thought it was a dub until they announced who it was. Damn you Preller
I had a feeling Flaherty was gonna be plagued by injuries after he got hurt warming up in the bullpen on opening night when he played for Peoria (class A at the time)
I remember playing travel ball with Derek Hill up until we graduated HS…. The dude had wheels like nobody I’d ever seen before. Saw him hit a laser one time over the centerfielders head and with absolutely 0 errors he turned it into an inside the park home run. Dude was absolutely nasty in centerfield as well. It sucks he got plagued by injuries after the draft.
Chavis went on a hot first few weeks, that’s why his 2019 numbers look decent. To date that’s the only time in his major league career he’s been worthy of a roster spot-the first month.
Here's another great thing about Nola. Usually, an NBA team's first round pick debuts that year, while the great majority of MLB picks, if they make it at all, don't. Nola debuted in 2015. The 76ers' 2014 pick, Joel Embiid, didn't debut until 2016!
I saw Erik Fedde pitch on a Friday night at unlv and he had it before Tommy John surgery in college. If he didn't have Tommy John top 10 pick. Glad he has bounced back. Always say his name when he is on TV.
I went to an Angels game a few weeks back and saw Cole play. Fell in love with the awkward intro and decided I liked him. Also I'm not quite convinced he isn't Tim Lincecum trying to play the field.
Cole Tucker is on my angles franchise rebuild and he seems to always find a way to get on base it’s crazy he isn’t good at all but man he always comes through
Your choice to have King Kunta as the background music during the sections where you talked about the pitchers who played for the Rockies lowkey might have a deeper meaning, as the lyric “I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves”that is said in that song is similar to the belief that when a good pitcher signs with the Rockies, they probably kill their career. Was this intentional?
I feel the same way about Elder that i do Jesse Chavez. Regardless of their numbers whether good or bad, i cringe everytime they throw a pitch. My confidence level in both of them is nonexistent
I get this class is weak and you need HOF players but I think it’s unlikely either Nola or Turner make the hall. They will both be close but I don’t think either make the cut. Nola has a better shot for sure, with the control he’s got I can picture him pitching until he’s 40 maybe longer. My knock on Turner is that I don’t know how he’s gonna age. He’s really gonna have to rely on his bat in about 2 years. His bat is awesome but the speed is also a big part of his game, can’t picture his legs and subsequently his defense aging super well.
while Freeland's numbers overall are bad this year, he has a 1.71 ERA in his last 26 innings pitched, really wild stats by month, April: 13.21 ERA, May: Injured, June: 1.42 ERA, July, 1.98
35:56 Not only did Rodón throw a no-hitter, it was a lollipop curveball grazing Roberto Perez's backmost toe (on an 0-2 count, no less) from being a whole-ass perfect game.
I'm surprised Brady Aiken isn't talked about nearly as much as Mark Appel for the biggest MLB bust. Also, I don't know what was happening in sports in 2013 and 14 but the majority of draft classes among all major sports from those two years were pretty awful
Absolutely LOVING Weaver as a Yankee, dude has been awesome and is honestly one of the best personalities on the team. It's so great to see him finally put together his talents.
The way the Braves leaned on 3 of the top 16 picks to pan out as part of their rebuild, despite not having a first round pick, then watched them all bust and still won a World Series anyway
I didn't realize how sick the Duckworth beat was until the end of this video lol. not that I thought it was bad or anything I'm just always focused on the lyrics in that song lmao
I've never understood why teams try to turn amazing relief pitchers into starters, there are so many examples of it not working. like daniel bard for example
