The 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro Is Outdated on Arrival - No, You're Wrong! 

Trying to make an old truck exciting 😴😪 . The new Tundra will be a breath of fresh air tho

THEY ARE A CUTE COUPLE FOSHO!!!!! 💖

Don't forget it's made almost entirely in the good old USA 🇺🇸!

Like DonDeskins said, you guys crack me up. Well Don didn’t exzact day that but we both entertained!!! Good looking truck ! Best on the road , they last a long time too!!!🍀🍀🍀🍀🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀

Rear locker again!🍀

Mike Minton great to hear that.

Mike I’ve run my toyotas all over these north Alabama mountians and southern swamps. Toyota is only trucks in my yard. I keep 3 allways ! One for work one for play one for in between🍀

If you never had any issues with your 2007, why waste money on a new one?

@@seantaylor2683 I bought a new one because I wanted the Platinum trim level (Old one was the Limited trim level) and I wanted the new "Safety Suite", radar cruise control, built in trailer brake controller and Bluetooth capability.

Mike Mintun Toyota rules my driveway as well. Since 1983 no other brand in my girls hands nor mine!

why not both??

@Chris Ruiz Apparently, a lot. New fog lights, huge light bar, front and rear aftermarket bumpers, skid plates, and a winch. Not too mention, huge mud tires, aftermarket shocks, and lift kit. However, no one in their right mind is going to take a full size crew cab [heavy ass] truck onto serious off-roading trails.

@Chris Ruiz As for the old adage, "..if its not broke.."..it gets boring seeing the same truck for more than 5 years or so.

So you ride a horse or a Model T?

Honestly, id say screw the features, just more things that can break over time and cost a fortune to fix. Give me an original toyota pickup, or a 1st gen d150 (either 318 or 360) where all you need to fix them is WD40, a screwdriver and a couple wrenches. Are they efficient? Kind of. Are they luxurious? Hell no. Can they run forever if well maintained? Yup. I remember as a kid our water pump on our '84 ramcharger (318) went out on a Sunday evening in Windsor Ontario. My father fixed it really quick once we found an auto parts store open and with minimal tools. Couldn't realistically do that with any vehicle made today.

SPARTAN GAMING sometimes that’s all some people need. Just a reliable car/ truck to drive. 4 wheels and a box.

Mike so glad your being so kind. And so glad you took the time to watch my videos:) i did have a Ford but had problems with it lol haha. Love my tundra. Have a nice day dude🤣🤣🤣🤣

Totally agree. Had an F150 lariat that was in the shop constantly. Timing issues at 70k miles. Everything that could go bad did in a short period of time. Got rid of that POS before the 100k mile warranty expired and got a Tundra and couldn't be happier. Toyotas from here on out.

@Tim Tom true

So true. Love my 2013. Analog no high tech hard to use bullshit inside my the truck..

So true and 5 to 10 years these tundras are going to be with the 5.7 Land cruiser is right now a collector's dream they are bulletproof and will hold their value buy one and keep it best half ton on the road really three quarters the way it's built simplicity at its best.

Abbott and Costello v.2

yea i like them too, Roman and his nerdy son are painful to listen to

Seeing the thumbnail, I was hoping for a little bit a wrasslin' goin' on! LOL

Agree

Kevin Hicks yes... but other than that great!

First Gen has it

I would trade my double cab in instantly. They make the chassis to fit it. Hopefully someday.

There was an aftermarket builder that modified crew max trucks to add a 6.5ft bed. Idk if they're still around though

The double cab is plenty big enough and still has 4 doors if you just need room for kids back there or adults on short trips

Still have my 2014 Platinum. Averaging 14mpg and 240ish miles per tank

Have a 21 Platinum 38 Gallon fuel tank and I love. Get almost 550-60p mikes out of each tank. Truck has 4100 on it now. I was speaking to another Tundra owner he has had 3 now he’s in a 20 platinum said his fuel mileage increased after 10k mikes or so. I’ll see if that’s true.

Same here but mine is 2020 and I could give a shit about technology

@Wayne Smith vehicles made after 2015 are mandated(in the US) to have a backup camera anyways...

@@Apersonnamedme that's when the law was passed, automakers have several years to comply.

As of 2018 all cars sold in the US will have a reverse camera per DOT.

Iron fist?

@@Sig721Tau is a soviet union / Russian thing.

@@TheDaltonmichaels Also a MOTORHEAD thing!

@@beercanrich99 and a comic thing...

@@2011buddylee Amen. Toyota builds a decent product but these fanboys are too much 😂

Sorry to hear that Buddy but after 2 at 170 000 and worn out, you bought 2 more? interesting.

@@gregsanders9563 I have two Tundras, an 03 and an 08 both with over 240K miles and they still run amazing. I switched to Toyota when we had to rebuild the transmission on our F150 at only 115K miles.

@@Immortalkalashnikov At only 115k miles? That's a lot miles on a transmission. You left out the part where you were hauling or pulling over the truck's towing capacity.

@@Sig721Tau Uhm both our Tundras have over 240K miles on the original transmission and are also used in the same line of work that the F150 was used for. The Tundras were simply more reliable.

Kent Boyko same here, I’m also a ford guy, but now I drive a 2017 TRD 4x4 Tundra and love it👍🏻

Get the new 7.3 from ford. That truck is going to kick ass.

Not really. They are way overrated as far as reliability. It is still an all aluminium DOHC engine, with all the known pitfalls of that design. DI in a V8? No thanks. Other than having 8 cylinders, this engine shares nothing with the old reliable truck engines of the past.

D Ferret One small reason I like the tundra is they still use a steering shaft instead of this electronic steering and our Ford Escapes locked up the other day turned on and off and it works again lol just kind of makes me nervous there is no physical control and all electronic. Also the 2018 5.0 and up have some major issues with oil and coolant disappearing and the big three our so competitive that there trying new things all the time that aren’t necessarily proven where Toyota just finds something that works and leaves it alone until the technology of today is proven 5-10 years down the road and they use it.

D Ferret if I was to buy a truck today it would be that superduty with 7.3 mainly because I can use a heavy duty truck and like the long box but if it was a half ton it would be a tundra.

yes and no... to get the diesel, it'll most likely be 10k more expensive and comes with a whole slew of emission hardware that are super prone to failure, even at Toyota's standards. Not to mention the extra expense of DEF. You could do a delete, which would give you the best thing about diesels, but that's a few grand just to do that and the engine has to get tuned... therefore losing out on potential warranty. F150 and RAM's diesels aren't selling like hotcakes either, so the market is very small, not profitable enough for Toyota to spend millions to try to get it emissions approved for the US

DaDa啊達啦 like 97* of ram 2500’s and 3500’s comes with cummins instead of hemi’s

@@chrishansen7004 That's a whole different category, most people who buy heavy duties actually use them as trucks, while most half tons are just for getting groceries and getting to the mall. Why did you think Ford, GM and Ram took so damn long to bring out diesels in half tons? and the American Ford Ranger is the only country that doesn't come with a diesel, some countries only sell it with a diesel engine. Regulations, since they sell half tons so much more than heavy duties, they're a lot more strict, and the market for diesel engine is so small they need to really find out if it's worth investing. Petrol is still by far the biggest seller even with the available diesel in half tons. Toyota will come out with a hybrid Tundra before they put a diesel in it. It'll most likely use less gas while towing a lot more.

Put a 4bt Cummins in yours.

And the rear windows open. Reach back and pop the latches.

Exactly! Still driving my 88 Toyota SR5. Old trucks rule... No payments!🍻

Yeah I daily a 97 Jeep XJ. Frankly I average 13 mpg. Going to a much larger more powerful vehicle with 15 mpg is an upgrade all around.

Chevy isn't trying to market that as a new truck lol

@@zzzz-ok7733 Exactly mate but these modern car lovers will never learn.

With the great re-sale value on these damn things, a used one a few years old doesn't seem to save you too much money.

You can save almost $15k over one of the TRD pros.

Les Johns ....I was looking for a pickup truck myself, could not justify paying such high prices for any product that depreciates, especially a vehicle. I found a 2004 Tundra Acces Cab, with the 4.7L engine, 100,000 miles that was taken care of. I put in lower ball joints, outer tie rods, end links, sway bar, sway bar bushings, rack and pinion bushings, front shocks and springs, new muffler. $500 for parts, I did all the work as the first generation tundra was easy to work on. I saved $50,000 and have a good work truck that takes care of all my needs for the home and work.

My 08 suffered from the front differential howl/growl problem resulting in a replacement front differential...and 2 years later the same issue had resurfaced....rear axle bearing failures, and a couple years later they were failing again. Water pump leaking like a sieve at 54k, very poor build quality and replacement parts aren't any better. Finally sold it at 104k, don't miss it at all...on another note, my 05 Tundra has been trouble free with 164k on it.

@@2011buddylee Yep they decided to completely ruin the Tundra with that garbage engine.

James Turner I advise you to look into it, I had an 07 and just bought a 15 TRD PRO (1st of this model) I love it, at least drive it and try it.

I have a 2012 5.7 180,000. No problems at all.

@@wildbill23c My 2008 limited has 567,901 miles CURRENT on it and nothing major has changed on it. Only tires, gas, batteries and oil.

If you don't mind me asking, whats a ball park price to add the lockers? Just the lockers not the tires. I've got a 2019 and was thinking about doing. Thank you

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When I added ARB lockers: I used the most reputable place I could find on the east coast and that was East Coast Gear Supply in NC. I also opted for the best ARB air compressor and hook ups for an air hose. I use that a lot to air up tires quickly. These are really ball park numbers from memory: lockers cost about $1000 each and everything else was about $1500. So maybe $3500-4000 for my setup. This is from memory. If I was looking to save money I'd just go rear locker with a basic air compressor and look to a local shop. Maybe less than 2k. I know 4 Wheel Parts had them. It does completely change the truck. It totally eliminated the biggest weekness. Good luck!

@@lwonutube Thank you for your reply. Really not as bad as I thought. I live in VA, I might have to look them up. I'd rather not have an inexperienced person doing the job. I plan on keeping this truck forever so it'll definitely be worth the price and the truck is built to last. The truck is perfect otherwise (IMO). Thanks again for the information.

That is interesting, I owned a 2014 3.5L ecoboost and had no problems at all with it, got a consistent 18mpg combined, never really had any trailers to pull but I did haul with it occasionally and drove off-road frequently. Ran it to 100k miles and traded to a 2019 3.5L ecoboost and now I'm getting >21mpg with the same driving. I'll agree on the Chevy's tho, seen too many 4L60's die and plastic parts fail, trans cooler lines blow off....ugh....

What is your mpg by chance?

Nate Young 13 city, 16 hwy

Whose to say that other people won't use them?

@@Sig721Tau Toyota owners to justify the purchase of an extremely outdated vehicle.

You mean payload over 1200lb? Yeah, I tow with my truck so I use that all the time. It's an outdated turd with an interior from 2006.

I agree on that. I also am always concerned about the more moving parts, the more to go wrong. I do think they need to work on fuel efficiency

Yea who needs a locker when your off road in a "Turd pro"

And both are great trucks

but the frontier is actually a reasonable price for how old it is.

This truck is almost as old as my kid. Who can drink legally.

@@scott8238 that's because it has never changed a bit aside for some DOT mandates

I was a young man when this truck first came out, lol

How about pulling the engine to change the PS pump?

original starter and PS pump and alternator on my 96' 4runner with 354K.

Bothers me when people say the 5.7L is like a carbon copy of the old 4.7L that actually was reliable.

Wrong, The starter is actually on thee passenger side it's not in the intake manifold The first gen Tundra is yes The second to onward, no.

@@SuperCJification most reliable of all of the trucks.

People that complain about updates are mainly not in the market for a new truck anyway and drive a clapped out 96 Tahoe

Well said

*couldn't care less

@@motarded4214 indeed. 👍

@Vegas EMT we also have a 2012 Ram 1500 Tradesman with the Hemi. Spin on oil filter at the bottom and a transmission dipstick. For a modern truck is pretty easy to service. Thanks for the info on the tundra

Tundra has a cartridge filter on the bottom, requiring a 64mm filter wrench to remove, after removing the factory skidplate to access (unless you have the TRD plate, RCI plate, or P&P plate that have access doors). Transmission is not sealed, that's just dealerspeak for 'we don't want to work on it'. The way Aisin does it with the Tundra, there's a fill plug, a pan drain plug, and a check plug that has a straw going up to a certain level. You need to get the transmission fluid to somewhere around 115F (service manual specifies a more exact low and high check temp range) and remove the check plug. Fluid should just trickle with the truck running. Much more accurate way to set the level than a dipstick. For vehicles already warmed up, dealers often have a straw insert kit that can reach to a higher level to compensate for higher temps, with different length straws for different temperatures. When I've done the trans fluid I've just used the built-in straw and spotted the pan with an infrared temp gun. On a steel pan it's usually almost exactly what the onboard pan temp sensor reads, within 2F tops. Generally takes 10-15 minutes from dead cold fluid to warm up to the check range, but once there don't dawdle, ya gotta get 'er level set within a couple minutes. Easiest to slightly overfill and remove the check plug right at bottom temp, then let drain until it slows to a trickle, keeping an eye on the rising temp to make sure it doesn't go out of range.

It was like that prior to 2016 and the 38 gallon tank. It's the driveline bump to get the driveshaft/transmission higher up for ground clearance.

@@belanger9 Ya, seems odd because Ford doesn't have a floor hump for their 36gal fuel tank. Can't imagine why they would have had to raise the whole back 2' of the rear of the cab that much for 2 extra gallons and couldn't fit it elsewhere.

I looked at my 38 gallon tank on a '19 Limited. It's about 5 feet long.

Actually it's filled with a big block of foam to absorb noise. On the shorter doublecab instead of the foam it's a nice storage cubby. Some folks buy aftermarket storage for back there that have you cut a big portion of the foam out before putting it in. The only real noticeable difference between the 26 gal and 38 gal tanks is the gap from the front of the tank to the midpipe. With the 26 gal tank it has near 2 feet of void between the two.

Amen, thank you! Exactly what I wanted to hear, you are all spot on! I agree with everything on what you just wrote.

I am getting close to 17 mpg on mine, my friends ford ranger peace of crap gets 17 too, and it's much smaller!! I would never buy a Ford or Doge or any GMC piece of junk product, I would take a Toyota any day!

@@bettysmith7045 agreed. I drive with a bit of a led foot but i am not concerned about gas milage when driving a pick up. I choose reliability over mpgs... That is if any of the other pick ups are even doing any better on fuel consumption

Yep, I ended up buying a new one cause I would only be saving like $3k on a used one, then I got free oil changes for 2 years and a warranty as well as a better finance rate that made up the difference

Except jeep

Jeep? Nothing made by Chrysler/Fiat has good resale value.

@@binyamj Pardon me, but I think David is right. The Jeep Wrangler has impressive resale value. I think they have a very devout following.

@@davidschreiber1823 I wonder what that fact states about the "Tundra's resale value must mean it is a reliable vehicle" lol

Dads Domain True story

@@wilmarbarrick3194 depends on the trim. Obviously a trd pro with soft suspension is not designed for heavy hauling or towing. Max payload is 1700 and towing 10,400 on regular 5.7 double cab. There are some people who tow way above that and claim no problem but its all on them. At the end of the day its a half ton.

Toyota only sells a couple of percent of the Big 3 in sales. Most trucks won't wear out driving empty to the grocery store.

@@wilmarbarrick3194 Or they arent designed like total garbage and are actually good trucks.

@@normt5463 most people that buy a Tundra arent getting another one when the warranty expires though so that is part of the reason they dont sell as many compared to a Ram Ford or Chevy.

Neither are most 1 tons on the road. 80% of truck owners seem to haul little more than a 1500lb side by side. Trucks have become lifestyle vehicles.

gogeta1001000 Tacoma already has power sliding rear window

Elton Pham i think he means the whole rear-view window rolling down

Just get a 4Runner then... Same motor as a Taco

I though some of them has it?

Chriz Sea. lmao no the 4runner has a bigger V6 with more torque

If you watch until the end the truck is actually $54,000. When they started the review off and it was in the 30s, it seemed OK.

@@ryanrichardson1169 but what they don't tell you is you can buy a four wheel drive Toyota Tundra V8 for starting at 38 Grand. You can also get a Dodge four-wheel drive but it'll start at 39k and its a V6...

I don't need the gadgets but you have to admit they are fuel pigs . Other than poor fuel economy there is nothing about the Tundra I do not like .

@@backlash660 yes, I'll admit they do guzzle gas but rock solid reliability is worth more than 4-5 mpg.

They need more engine options on both their trucks. Ford nailed their engine options imo over their competition. Id still buy a f 150 over a tundra

Probably won't outlive those old 2 valve 4.6's though.

It won’t compete with the big three on anything over 1/2 ton, technology is not a priority when choosing a one ton truck to actually do work, 1/2 ton trucks have to use gimmicks and technology and they are still overpriced. Guys on here making a fuss over 1/2 ton trucks. Any of these 1/2 ton trucks are good enough for the basic work it’s going to see over its lifetime. Real truck work is left for the Chevy 3500 Duramax and Allison combination or the F350 Powerstroke.

Lag is Free - I have yet to see a USB port break...just saying.

Roman likes the yuppie trucks. Fully loaded with a bunch of tech that will fail. If your rich, who cares, just get a new one but, is blue collar guys who need trucks to last them because of other life things that have to be taken care of, longevity and price are most important. Not how big the screen is on the dash! Lol

@@Tusuperbis get a better job?

@@kidamere2408 get a better personality! Lol

@@Tusuperbis damn son burnnnn

The frame flex is what improves the ride quality. If it was a fully boxed frame it would ride like an F-150.

Roberto Miranda Nissan Frontier is definitely old school as well

I don’t necessarily think Toyota purposely kept their trucks old school. I just think they don’t tend to invest in it like their sedans and small suv. You see, America is very big into Trucks and Full size SUV while other countries are not. Toyota keeps tundras and taco in the lineup to have a market in the US, however they don’t make money from it like their small cars sold world wide. So it’s not that they purposely do it because it’s “so reliable,” it’s marketing strategy.

My biggest problem with the tundra is that they don't offer a crew cab with a 6.5 foot bed. That's a real deal breaker to me

They're not keeping it old on purpose. Its gonna be funny when the new tundra comes out with twin turbo v6 and more gears and a hybrid option. Watch all these same toyota guys switch to the new truck. Suddenly new will be better.

Sergey Melnik that’s the problem. That is the reason why i am not a fanboy of either brand. I simply choose my truck base on what i need and of course reliability. But every brand have got some issues even toyota.

The ecoboost does get a *few* MPG's better.

Dont lie. My 3.5 is constantly getting 19 to 20 with all type of driving even traffic.

Oh come on. I have a 2019 f-150 2.7 12000 miles and mileage since day 1 is 21.7 that includes warming up every morning at least once and I live in the northern white mountains

Not on these. Meatier tires and 500 lbs of extra weight in the back doesn't budge the mpg's even 1 mpg down. It's turbo sixes that suffer when you do that.

@@Irven51 I've seen a number of "modern V8's" with the displacement-on-demand systems see significant hits to their MPG when loaded too. Maybe something like this that is all-V8-all-the-time won't care I guess, which is why it just has crap MPG all the time.

That's you personally I love how it looks

Exterior looks fine

@@18Darkside I hate the front end. Giant grille, with Scoop-Central to top it off. Yuck. The Tacoma looks better up front..

They didn't really go to the moon thats why they can't make the m more efficient. 😉

The biggest possible technological leap forward in internal combustion engines right now is the opposed piston diesels. Look them up, really cool how they work. Amazing efficiency. Ford has a working prototype in an F150

That is a horrible comparison, especially you don't know the trajectory, speed, time, or the amount of fuel those Rocketdynes F1 rocket booster suck.

There is, but at the expense of more moving parts and carbon deposits. Walnut shelling isn’t really isn’t as fun as it sounds.

The 5.0L 10 speed F150 is actually a hell of a combo and gets the same fuel economy as a Tacoma 4cyl. The tech is in American Trucks 😭

Tell that to all the Tacoma owners whose frames rusted so badly the trucks often snapped in half.

Don’t crash.

This is a secret nobody knows... Toyota’s crash ratings are terrible and it’s designed to be that way. That way there will be less Rebuilt Vehicles on the road and more total losses.

Randal almost all the new trucks Get totaled so what you mean is more Toyota owners are severely hurt

it has poor crash ratings because the platform is really old, no matter how you refresh it. It is built with 2007 safety ratings in mind, and as the safety rating difficulty and fields increases, it scores poorer and poorer. Just look at dodge grand caravan for example. This is one way the NHTSA pushes the automakers to make newer and better vehicles, by using this negative reinforcement method.

When it came out it had the best, but carmakers are constantly improving, and this is an old design. Just look up the first gen tundra vs the f150 of that same year, or any of the other big3 for that matter. The tundra was the only truck that the structure didnt fail. The ford and dodge buckled badly, the chevy bucked a little, the tundra was still able to open the doors. When the new tundra comes out it will no doubt be class leading, and when the others come out they'll do better. It's a cycle, and right now the tundra is the oldest but still surprisingly competitive. Some of its standard safety features aren't even available on other trucks.

You hang on to same iPhone or Android phone until it's completely dead? The rhetoric makes sense but the modern pick-up truck market shows that sales dominance is going to the biggest innovators. Toyota is going to change things that are great, just on their own timetable. It does keep their vehicles more reliable rather than trying to match the competition for business- and competition-sake. Sort of the "slow and steady wins the race." We see Nissan employing the same thing in the truck market.

@khronosfateless well atleast make it have better fuel economy? the tundra mpg avg in the city is 9-10mpg

Joshua Long because sales suck

@khronosfateless It's not just gadgetry, reliability aside the big 3 half-ton trucks have the Tundra beat in every other way possible. I'll stick to my GMC that makes about 16-17 MPG with a 6.2L V8.

Necrotic Reaper if the transmission didn’t crap out in my gmc I’d still be driving it too

If your truck is squatting to the point where your headlights need to be adjusted, you either have your load distributed wrong or a load that is too much for the tow vehicle. When you’re at that point you are putting yourself and others at unnecessary risk due to poor handling characteristics that come with having your truck squatted like that

I had no idea that was a feature Toyota offered until I read your comment! Thanks. I hate how blinding the new trucks are, towing or not towing, their headlights sit far too high for people driving regular sedans that even low beams are blinding enough.

@@jamesheaslip7465 ford f250 squat with even a small load. I had 1500lbs of salt gel in the f250 and the same load in my titan xd and it was distributed evenly in both beds. The nissan just leveled but, the f250 squatted big time. And no I dont think the titan xd can haul more, it just squatted significantly less with the exact same load. Any truck will squat when you put a decent load. I guarantee every truck that is loaded at or near its capacity even correctly squats. Just leveling a truck causes the low beams to blind people.

@@mr.q4994 I love that featurem my titan xd has it also, when I did a 2x1 lift level I clicked my leveler down one notch and everything was back stock. When I had it on 0 people would flash me, when I put it on 1 it was perfect.

@@jamesheaslip7465 I agree it's dangerous but it doesnt take much to squat a truck, and it doesnt take much squat to blind oncoming traffic. Just leveled out a truck will do that. My f350 with less than 2,000lbs in it squatted pretty good to where I had to adjust the headlights not only because it was blinding traffic but the high beams were useless. Once I adjusted them down it was night and day. High beams now light up the road alot better and lows dont blind oncoming traffic. Even unloaded my 17 f250 was blinding traffic. Everyone flashed me. I think ford must have aimed them a little high from the factory.

LowKey ID my 2011 crew has 187k sofar have had nothing go wrong.

LowKey ID my 06 just hit 200k and runs great. Just keep the timing belt replaced, fresh fluids, the occasional U-joints, and it will keep going forever.

Mike Wright agreed. Toyota needs to do something about their reliability

A F150 or Ram 1500 with all that fancy tech cost $70k, a fully loaded Tundra is about $55k.

wish I could love this comment... I was waiting for the $45k-$49k price tag

It's Private more like 100k after you pay for one of the worst mpg.

They're giving these things away (maybe not the TRD PRO trims tho) with really steep discounts because basically no one is buying them. Personally I understand the (perceived, IMO) reliability of the vehicle, but I'm not buying something because it'll be mediocre longer than anyone else. I also was thoroughly disappointed in the interior quality of even the Platinum and 1776...1784....1842...whatever edition. Granted, it was a pretty tempting price but everyone but Nissan put up a far more compelling product than Toyota both times I've been in the market for a truck.

@@SuperCJification I agree 100%

Oh the good old days…$54k would be great!