I guess to be fair, it was also that the baby Harry Potter was able to survive being hit with the killing curse, which otherwise automatically killed anyone it touched. If Moby's mom somehow put a magical spell on the white whale calf, which caused Ahab's second harpoon thrown directly at Moby Dick to bounce straight back and slash Ahab's leg off, then I suppose everyone praising young Moby Dick as an enigma would be a bit more justified.
"He's bein' chased by whalers!" "More like running away, I'd say." Uh... yeah, Storm. That is generally what happens when you're being chased by something... you run away from it....
Because Moby Dick is such a kid friendly story! I'm surprised no one ever made a kid friendly "Of Mice and Men" movie, where Lenny has a smart-alec talking mouse and no one dies.
Nah, it's the Golden Films version where Lennie just has hair over his eyes and bad posture, which he immediately fixes before getting married to Curly's Wife, Melody, and her talking rabbits who won't shut up about inane bullshit.
The sad part is I can actually imagine that existing as some 90s animated film, especially the part about the talking mouse Sounds like the type of film I would have encountered as a kid back then after channel surfing and the only thing I would remember is the comic relief animal
I am going to admit a revenge story where it turns out that they actually killed their target the entire time and are going mad on a foolhardy mission to kill them sounds like an excellent set up for a story. Could end with him losing his ship, his crew, crawling up on a shore only to find the dead corpse of his quarry long since dead. Though that is WAY too dark for a children's movie... well way too dark for a non-Dingo Children's movie.
The Dingo version would probably play the "womp womp wah" music as Ahab finds the bloated corpse of Moby Dick while crawling onto the shore. (Right before he passes out from pain.)
There's an issue of Marvel's What If where a different person inherited the powers of Nova and went on a long killing spree to find the one who murdered their husband. ...Only for it to be revealed that the perpetrator died months ago when he lost control of his car speeding away from the scene of the crime.
I can kinda understand making Ahab worse than he was in the original novel (since whaling is considered far less acceptable now than it was when the book was written), but did they really have to reduce him to a caricature of himself? Disney made Frollo more evil in their _Hunchback_ adaptation, but they didn't turn him into a one-note stock villain.
In the original book, Queequeg's fellow harpooners were a Native American man named Tashtego, a black man named Daggoo, and an Indian man named Fedallah. But the other harpooners in this movie are Ahab himself and some random white guys. Shame, since this was such a faithful adaptation otherwise.
I'm not sure it's a case of whitewashing, so much as it is just laziness and apathy. "We're already butchering the book, so why bother fleshing these guys out? And if they're not going to get even the bare minimum of characterization, why give them a different skin color than the rest of the inconsequential extras?" Of course, the above scenario assumes they were thinking at all. Given what a disasterpiece this was, that's rather doubtful.
BilboKoira PFFFT - That's it! The SJWs need to completely remake Moby Dick with an all female cast and only throw ONE male side-character in there but have him be a complete idiot who's all looks and no personality! Also every line of dialogue MUST revolve solely around gender and/or race. And anybody who says the film's bad is automatically a "sexist pig" regardless of whether or not their criticism is accurate. It'll be the PERFECT adaptation! (insert obvious Ghostbusters reboot joke here) XD
Really, Queequeg, Ahab, and Ishmael are the only Pequod crew they KEPT in this adaptation! Everyone else is cut out! Even the white sailors here are clearly not the same ones as those in the book.
The mom is just seen giving a dumb advice to her kid, while a boat of whalers is passing by. Moby just try for it and she doesn't hold him on, so she atones for her stupidity. Nothing of value was lost in the eyes of spectators. Definitely cannot be likened to Disney parent death.
Oni Queen we can all agree that there are many deaths of a parent of an animated animal protagonist that are much better than the death of Moby Dick’s mom.
The death of Littlefoot's mom actually made audiences feel something because they took time to establish how much she and her son cared about one another. This butchering of Melville's work had her getting killed right off the bat, before you have any reason to care, and the voice acting was so bad you couldn't really tell if Moby was sad or not
Wait, so because his mom got killed, Moby is too scared to breach? AKA go to the surface to breathe? If he never goes up for air then how is he not dead from lack of oxygen?
Breaching means when whales leap out of the water a la Shamu (they breach the surface). Sometimes, whales just swim up and take a breath without breaching.
I always like how when people die in your videos, they just serenely close their eyes, kinda like they're accepting their fate and welcoming the eternal embrace of death.
17:15 "He's being chased by whalers!" "More like running away" um...yes, thats what "being chased" would entail. You're trying to run away from the people chasing you....
I remember renting this on VHS as a kid from the local library once, and then being confused that Moby Dick wasn't a friendly whale when discovering the original story. XD
The real-life story of Mocha Dick, the whale that Melville’s novel was inspired by is actually quite sad. Mocha Dick was kind of like the Django of the whaling world, sinking numerous whaling ships and no doubt preventing the deaths of several of his kind, I like to think that he knew what he was doing, more than just attacking possible threats.
@@Tareltonlives They actually did. It was called "In the Heart of the Sea". It actually starred Chris Hemsworth and Tom Holland and was directed by Ron Howard. It was a box office flop, unfortunately. Probably why you haven't heard of it.
I thought it was also inspired by a real incident where a whale rammed a waling ship to sink, leaving its crew adrift on the smaller skiffs before they turned to cannibalism and died?
Because that was what the story of Moby Dick was missing, Moby Dick suffering from PTSD because Captain Ahab killed his mother and going to therapy to get over it. I also wonder if this was the movie that the people who made the theme park on the moon in Futurama, which is why they have a ride featuring a song about whalers on the moon?
This is a perfect example of: If you have a book of classic literature, and you want to make an animated feature for kids, based on it, and there's adult scenes in it that need to be edited to make them more kid friendly, if you can't figure a way to do this in a way that doesn't completely change the story, you shouldn't even START the animation project. Some change is acceptable in adaptation. BUT when that change alters the entire point of the work of the book, that's a problem.
The point is that you should still tell the story that was in the original book. If you have to "update it" and change the message of the book. IE. The humans are good guys in the book but we need them to be villains now because we like to protect whales now and the movie will upset people, then... don't make the damn movie. Or if you do, make it right and tell the original story. Don't change things. Tell the story FROM THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT and make that PLAINLY CLEAR. Making these alterations ultimately destroys the entire story most of the time. That's the problem that most of these book to movies miss. HISTORICAL CONTEXT!!! Let's make Quasimodo the hero who everyone loves at the end!! Let's make Moby Dick and Ishmael and all the whales and the whalers friends!!! No!!!!
If you're gonna introduce kids to Moby Dick why not at least track down the Wishbone version, Remember Wishbone? The dog with the spot over his eye connecting the problems his master is going through to a classic story. And also everyone dies in Moby Dick except Ishmael, and as someone who has read the full unabridged version of Moby Dick, the actually story is like a third of the book, the other two thirds are all about how to kill, process, and melt down blubber into oil and which whales produce the best oil with Sperm Whale oil out of the head being the best, and all the tools you need to properly chop up and melt down your whale. you know for kids.
Ah, whishbone. I miss that show. I'm gonna go wag another tale, and sniff out adventure with wishbone on the trail. I just have to ask...what's the story, wishbone?
I was like "OH NO is that the super dark, bloody, depressing Moby Dick cartoon that traumatized me as a kid?!" But then it wasn't. Seriously, check out the Danish movie Samson & Sally. There, the whale Samson swims through the blood of his family, Moby Dick (who lives in Atlantis!) is senile and as far as I remember dies of radiation and later Samson almost chokes by an oil spill. Movie is also post-apocalyptic, with parts of the USA submerged. All accompanied by an innapropriately comedic whale hunter.
Master Markus The striking resemblance is perfectly explainable. When Ishmael became captain, he and his crew sailed into the Bermuda Triangle never to return. Everyone onboard the Pequod died, but Ishmael was thrown into a temporal vortex that left him stranded in the Call of the Wild universe. With no way of returning to his own timeline, he was forced to create a new identity in order to survive in this strange new world, and was eventually taken in by the easily-killed-off father who threw his life away in search for operation gold. That's why he quickly got over his dad's death so effortlessly - he had only known the guy for, like, maybe a month or two.
Well, no one's adapted Grant Morrison's _The New Adventures of Hitler_ yet. The comic's not magical in itself, yet Morrison dabbled in chaos magick, so...
Ah, Moby Dick, a 19th century version of a whaling docu-drama that could only exist in an era when authors were paid by the word. Perfect children’s movie!
7:52 We *urp* gotta hunt a whale, Morty I seriously some times wonder how it was to work on these productions. It's all so disjointed, but with sorta lapses of both staying true to the source material then massively deviating into kid-film schlock.
Seems to me like it was just glancing through pages and just replacing adult/mature stuff with the first thing that would come to the mind of the writers
I'm assuming production went something like this: Executive: We need a Moby Dick film in two weeks! Writer1: *looks at book for inspiration* Writer2: *haphazardly slaps together typical family film plot* Writer1 and Writer2: *suddenly realize they were supposed to be collaborating and carelessly throw both scripts in a blender* Animators: *scramble to throw together something that vaguely resembles the script; putting in as little effort as possible because the final cut is due tomorrow* Voice Actors: *barely give a shit because nobody in their right mind would add this to their resume* Executive: The Walmart truck's leaving in five minutes! Anyone who hasn't abandoned them yet: *scribbles out some box art and copies the the film to a disc; then proceeds to throw it out the window into the semi trailer just as it's about to leave* Executive: Good work. The Lion King's coming out in like, three days from now, so we'll need you guys to stay late for that. ...Oh. And you're not getting overtime.
"Why are we working on a boat for a captain we hate?" Well, maybe they got knocked on the head while drunk at port and woke up in the ship with no way to escape. FOR KIDS!
So a whale with intelligence greater than the average human and is not afraid to kill to protect itself, somehow translates into a kids animated movie? Hey Freddy Kruger! Want to be in something more embarrassing than the 2010 movie? Actually as I think about it, that might actually be less embarrassing.
15:00 given that Moby Dick was first near Sumatra in the book and the final battle happened somewhere between China and America, in otherwords the centre of the Pacific ocean and nowhere near the Mediteranian, the whole Atlantis thing is even weirder... Maybe it's the ancient lost continent of Mu? That would explain the Egyptian stuff that's down there too...
Perfect way to handle the Old man running gag by now, in for a quick reference and immediately out again before he can overstay his welcome with these who don't care for him as a running gag.
I really love that bit at 12:50 where Ishmael fails to climb a 45-degree angle rope ladder and has to rocket off of it like it was the electric fence from Jurassic Park in order to fall overboard and advance the 'plot'. Also, at 14:51, forget Atlantis, Moby is swimming through *Egypt!* Guess the Nile flooded extra-hard that year, huh?
A thought ocured to me. Moby Dick is grey instead of white, he loses his mother and later fights whalers... Weirdest reboot ever for one of the Robins, since we can tell this story is about Dick Gray-son. :p
If they're still in business, I want to see these guys adapt Jurassic Park (as in the original Michael Crichton novel). If only to see Phelous riff on it.
They’d probably write Hammond out of the story and make either Grant or Malcom the villain with Lex and Tim helping a baby Velociraptor(who is the main character) shut down the island and free the Tyrannosaurus Rex
Ishmael and Queequeg joined Ahab's crew and went through the whole "I thought he was only hiring one person" story in the book. They...did the same thing when they were younger? Did Ahab forget them in the future? Are we going through a time loop?
I want to see a review of Sampson and Sally, a Danish animated movie about whales where, I kid you not, they have a song number where two comic relief characters build a human centipede of the Titanic victims skeletons and uses it as a xylophone, and they have a bunch of environmental messages.
Moby Dick was based off of a true story. A whale did ram the boat and sink it. Some of the crew got to an island. The captain and some of the crew were stranded in the middle of the ocean in row boats. They started eating the crew members that died. When they eat all of the dead crew members, one of the remaining crew volunteered to be shot so he could be eaten by the others. This young man was the captain’s nephew. They were discovered and brought back home. The captain’s sister was understandably upset with the captain. The crew mates that got to the island were found. Something had eaten them and only their skeletons remained.
And this was from the same set with White Fang and Call of the Wild? Will this definitely be one of the GoodTimes? At least Old Man appeared a la MK toasty.
AnonJl1 Old Man: USELESS! Wabuu: Shut up! That gag is soooooo- Old Man: Quick, Charled! Do something about Wabuu! Charlie: (dull falsetto voice) Okay old chap. Wabuu: Huh? (Charlie lunges at Wabuu's gut, scratching him mercilessly) Wabuu: aaaaahhhh! My guts! Old Man: How unexpected! Gotta go! (Old Man runs off, heeeeeeeing all the way while Charled follows suit. Wabuu is lying down in pain while the Little Angels and Wuschel laugh at him) Wabuu: Oooohhhh... I'll call you stupid next time, Old Man. NEXT TIME....! (Coughs blood)
12:58, Owl: hoot I say Old Man, you should not pick on a defenseless person like that, I think a good lesson is in order here, OWL!!! MAXIMIZE!!! (fires missiles on the Old Man) Old Man: (Grumbles) doh that stupid Owl I'll make him useless as well, OLD MAN!!! TERRORIZE!!! HEEEE!!!! (Owl and Old Man fights each other while Moby watches). Moby: whats going on here?
"He's the terror of the deep and he stalks you while you sleep." He stalks you . . . from the deep ocean . . . while you sleep . . . in your bed that is, I'm pretty sure, on land. that sounds like some kind of miracle to me.
This always got me...why do people think these dark and often disturbing stories are good for kids? I'm not one for dumbing things down for the kids or shielding them from everything, but doing this IS dumbing a story down. Because often themes that are too dark or adult for kids are essential for the story. Without them, there won't be much of a punch.
Wait, how did the kid get back to the ship? He was on a deserted island with gold and food one moment, and then in the captains quarters, is this the another miracle thanks to that seahorse? Why did he even go back? He had FOOD AND GOLD. (And someone to talk to, too!)
Awesome review as always dude. If you want to see a truly atrocious animated movie check out Anchors Up. It's got talking boats, a rap music scene, evil people who the movie forgets are evil at the end, and even though there are houses stores and markets there are no humans at all in it. Everything mechanical is living. The boats wear hats and use cell phones!
Can't wait for the kiddie version of To Kill a Mockingbird where Scout has a talking mockingbird sidekick that won't shut the hell up and steals most of the run time.
Moby The Adventures Of Young Moby Dick should’ve just been a crossover between Moby Dick and the musician Moby. “Extreme Ways are Back again, Extreme Ways At Ahab’s bay”
Here we are now going to the goodtimes side, weapons in hand as we go for a ride. Here we are now going to the Dingo Pictures side, I look a my friends and we hope we won't die.
Y'know, I love how breaching is sort of like Moby's 'coming of age' thing in this movie, something he must get past his fears and self-doubts to accomplish... then immediately after he does so--BOTH times--he's immediately set upon by hunters who want to murder him, and it kinda seems like the stupidest thing to do, and it's a bad idea in this world for him to try it. Yet the movie seems to think he just needs to get over his problems and do it... when it's the cause of most of his problems. Kinda screws up the narrative flow.
@@gracekim25 yeah, haha, as a mammal he definitely would have drowned otherwise. I guess the makers of this film didn't know or didn't care that whales aren't fish
10:32 " *Ahab:* I see. Then I guess I have no choice but to offer a reward. *Crew:* You're kidding? *Ishmael:* Woo! Is it another fishing trip? *Ahab:* No. It's this Coin. *Crew:* A Coin? You expect us to break our back over a Coin? *Ahab:* Not a Coin. THE Coin. *Crew:* Whatever. We've got plenty of... Coins. *Ahab:* Now, I think we understand each other. Nobody gets pay until I get me Dick back. *Crew:* Uhh, guys? can I have a word with you? Have you noticed that Ahab... has gone COMPLETELY INSANE?! "
