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The Ashlands PTB Building Stability Is Confusing 

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@diana.winter
@diana.winter Месяц назад
When the iron is outside the block, there is a small horizontal stability loss in addition to the vertical because Valheim uses the distance between the center of each object in that calculation. No idea for the columns breaking before their max height though.
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Yeah I thought that was the case and you are probly right but why is the black marble pillar also a different height then the normal block? I wish it could just be a bit more uniform.
@puuaatu2856
@puuaatu2856 Месяц назад
marble has better horizontal stability than regular stone although the vertical stability is the same
@jsmars
@jsmars Месяц назад
Great video! I think the height calculations are being done from the base terrain height though, not the flattened/heightened/lowered surface though.
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
I need to test out different terrain heights then thank you! But I do think the new pillars are not acting how to suppose to, seeing how some parts on the top stay up and some dont.
@marcforrester7738
@marcforrester7738 Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilder something to do with the relative positions of the tops of the iron beams / bottom of the pillar sections? 3d build pieces have always been weird about what counts as support when overlapping.
@jsmars
@jsmars Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilder yeah that does look a bit wierd. We will look into this. The calculations are done from the center point of each piece, in addition to keeping some old corrected calculations in place to prevent old builds from breaking, so Im sure the math could end up with a bit of behaviour like this.
@rhonin210
@rhonin210 Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilder don't forget the game is stil in early acces. everything might change in 1.0. but nontheless a good video
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
@@rhonin210 you are completely right!
@farkasthewild7885
@farkasthewild7885 Месяц назад
I like the daily uploads! It's nice to see you upload more frequently. Can I suggest doing tutorials or build series? That way your bigger builds don't cause you to only upload every few months. Personally most of my builds are inspired by yours. Your stone tutorial from a while back helped me exponentially.
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
I have two things in the pipeline but I also have my day job and some Dutch holidays coming up haha. 1. I’m going to do a small tutorial 2. I’m going to make a new updated video on stability because I have been talking to some people and got some new information that I want to test out.
@nicholasgarrett9696
@nicholasgarrett9696 Месяц назад
Flametal Pillar and Flametal Beam were just added after you posted this video. do they add any build height?? i really feel like they would. please test for this :O also side note these new pieces can be built directly on lava!
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Same stability as normal iron/wood pillars nothing changed. The devs said if we want them to look at stability we need to send in bug reports.
@nicholasgarrett9696
@nicholasgarrett9696 Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilder thank you so very much what a lad.
@Rimbaure
@Rimbaure Месяц назад
Always a pleasure your builds updates from valheim, best.
@SiriusSphynx
@SiriusSphynx 22 дня назад
Lol, "this is... so strange"
@TLDelapore
@TLDelapore Месяц назад
I was disappointed the new materials didn't have more stability.
@TTRGChannel
@TTRGChannel Месяц назад
Do I understand correctly that iron grilles make it possible to build higher than beams with iron?
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Seems like it, but I need to test more stuff out.
@ImaRamblingman
@ImaRamblingman Месяц назад
Have you tried removing the signs which are touching the stone pillars on the iron pole side? Perhaps they are transferring some stability. I ask this as the only place where they remain is adjacent to touching signs.
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Yes I did remove them and waited but nothing changed.
@ImaRamblingman
@ImaRamblingman Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilderDid you try building it in isolation again to see if you can replicate it this way?
@puuaatu2856
@puuaatu2856 Месяц назад
adding building pieces never makes structures less stable. removing them might sometimes :p
@user-qt8yo7gs7i
@user-qt8yo7gs7i Месяц назад
I love your builds and live in one of your houses :)
@user-qt8yo7gs7i
@user-qt8yo7gs7i Месяц назад
Ty and I hope you sent this video or info to bugs or feedback
@justinflagg5215
@justinflagg5215 Месяц назад
How high can you support buildings using the dverger copper walls? Is it the same as the iron walls?
@refplace2000
@refplace2000 Месяц назад
Yeah, was curious about the Dverger walls myself
@carbon5261
@carbon5261 Месяц назад
According to the wiki the dverger metal things have the same stability stats as iron. But if you believe the wiki then the wood iron poles should perform the same as the iron grates so idk.
@louisebreannelee2393
@louisebreannelee2393 Месяц назад
While this is,interesting, it's public test for good reason
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Agree, I’m just trying to figure it out and I also send in a bug report.
@louisebreannelee2393
@louisebreannelee2393 Месяц назад
@jjthebuilder I understand. I struggled myself building an outpost when I got there. I just figured it would be ironed out during testing
@dissya1
@dissya1 Месяц назад
30 and 32 dont break because of the wood peice that give them suport froom the pilar to the right and 31 and 29 break because there is no wood peice for spuport from the other pilar
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
The signs were placed after, that’s not it m8
@TheRealInscrutable
@TheRealInscrutable Месяц назад
Can you compare copper to iron as a support metal please.
@TTRGChannel
@TTRGChannel Месяц назад
I would be grateful for the summary of the video in a nutshell, I don't know English well, but I really like to build. But alas, even to write a comment, you have to use a translator.
@TheRealInscrutable
@TheRealInscrutable Месяц назад
I, too, love the building!
@corporateturtle6005
@corporateturtle6005 Месяц назад
Or you could just learn the basics of the language instead of being lazy and demanding someone else do it for you.
@TheRealInscrutable
@TheRealInscrutable Месяц назад
@@corporateturtle6005 Why do you even bother being a troll? It's less effort not to be one.
@corporateturtle6005
@corporateturtle6005 Месяц назад
@@TheRealInscrutable Same reason you cry like a man child.
@vasaradragonsbane5580
@vasaradragonsbane5580 Месяц назад
@@TheRealInscrutable How many different languages can you cry in? Asking for a friend.
@MrSageOlorin
@MrSageOlorin Месяц назад
Now you gotta redo this video, now that they've released the flametal pillar and beam....
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Flamepillars are the same strength and height as the normal wood/iron pillars.
@MrSageOlorin
@MrSageOlorin Месяц назад
@@jjthebuilder Doesn't seem worth the cost, if that's the case. Flametal is rather...precious...
@TheFearsomeRat
@TheFearsomeRat 28 дней назад
Stabilty is a mechanic I honestly hate in Valheim, it makes 0 sense, like "yes game tell me why this isn't supported despite sitting on a giant stone block and having supports in place.", Other survival games like Conan, etc., have handled it far better, and far simpler, in that your structure just needs to be supported, no height restrictions, etc., just "Can it stand on it's own y/n", stability honestly just kills any desire I have to try and do complex builds as a console player, and I'd argue it hurts the game more then anything on the building front, that and the camera not going underwater.
@oopomopoo
@oopomopoo Месяц назад
Thanks for the video! Video feedback, the constant sudden camera shaking made my eyes hurt and I started to feel nauseous at times. 1:59 was particularly egregious. At about 4:30 I had to scroll down to just listen to you and could not watch the video. Appreciate the content though, good thorough testing and good feedback! Hope the devs see it
@oopomopoo
@oopomopoo Месяц назад
I should specify, it's typically the circular rotations. Panning left and right or up and down is fine. Instead of circling your mouse, you could say "The iron grates in front of me", or just assume the viewer knows that the thing in the middle of your screen and cursor is the block in question. 🙂
@ArticWolfv
@ArticWolfv Месяц назад
your flight movement is making me seasick.
@jjthebuilder
@jjthebuilder Месяц назад
Thank you
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