The Bene Gesserit Explained | Dune Lore 

Nobody can predict clearly. They see what they want or fear, but not without their own filters…

He just wasn’t theirs to control. His son spanked them even harder.

They wanted one they could control. They miss stepped not discouraging Shadam from trying to take out the Atreides. If they had kept Paul away from the Fremen, Jessica would have had Alia on Caladan and she could still have been paired with Feyd.

The issue was also an oversight that they wanted a son from a Harkonnen male and Atreides daughter to control the son of the two biggest houses, but there’s a secret that Jessica was Baron Harkonnen’s secret daughter, so their kind of goal/prophecy already came true.

it may of been Herbert's subtle warning to feminists. This perfect integrated man you want, you won't be able to control

Not to mention Star Wars

George RR Martin basically copied tolkien, lovecraft, and real history, and blended it all together. I'm surprised the man hasn't been sued for some form of copyright litigation. Everything's a copy of something else. Everything was inspired by something else. And before that, before we started copying each other, nature inspired us. But yes, you are right. George RR Martin basically copied everyone... Made me like the series less. Especially when you consider that Lovecraft was a Nazi. But I don't see a lot of people defending the Jewish these days, because they're white, and Democrats run everything, and they only defend the minority, and with Jewish people being white, Democrats aren't able to capitalize on that. It doesn't get them about. But they know that if they defend palestine, Islam, and middle easterners, then they will get the vote in this country from those groups. It ain't that hard to figure it out.

@@RiverSprite30 The Democrats don't defend the minorities, they exploit them for votes, and many have woken up to the fact that they had been played.

@@RiverSprite30what???

@@RiverSprite30 literally, all media copies each other. no, TAKES INSPIRATION, is more like it.

They are kinda like the Illuminati (according to the conspiracy). Infiltrating elites, social engineering and greedy for power.

Yes, and I think the sisterhood is a great example of how alluring and dangerous power can be. Even through indirect methods of weilding it they are still corrupted by it. They also strike me as an example of how much time can warp reality, what are your interpretations?

The Fremen's branch of Islam called Zensunni actually exists in our world. It is called Sufiism, and it is a meditative, mystical form of Islam that were followed by many nomadic conquering powers of the past, like the Seljuks and Ottoman Turks.

Yeah I think part of Villeneuve's success comes from focusing so much on the Bene Gesserit. So many amazing scenes with them.

Doesn’t mean one from many or a combination of sorts.

hypnosis too

@@MarcelinoSoliz yeah. thats the definition from normal dictionary. in the context of Dune, it is a made-up word by Frank Herbert for almost-supernatural observation capability.

Priming also, the priming effect, occurs when an individual's exposure to a certain stimulus influences their response to a subsequent prompt, without any awareness of the connection.

Gestalt is the german word for design/form or appeareance...the verb is gestalten. Its not a made up word, he just took it.

Appreciate the suggestion! A very unique character for sure

I did not know there was a comic available, but there are several books written by Frank Herbert who created the original story. He originally intended 7 books, but completed 6. They cover thousands of years of history with the first 3 books (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune) covering the first decades after House Atreides comes to the Planet Arrakis and final book (Chapterhouse Dune) taking place about 5,000 years after Paul Atreides. There is also a Dune Encyclopedia that was authorized by Herbert and contains tons of background and historical information, bur it went out of print and is very rare. The 6 books, however, greatly expand the Dune Universe and take it into some amazing, far reaching ideas. Aside from that there are also some prequel novels written by Herbert’s son, Brian Herbert, and Kevin J Anderson, but there is disagreement about whether they are faithful or not to Frank Herbert’s original vision.

Right?!?!?? Imagine a 3D ultra HD anime style

There are comic novels my library have them. They do a good job with synopsis of the book.

Haha

It's annoying to be honest. Good writing doesn't pack in as many ten-dollar words as it can.

Maybe dune isn't for you?

I was wondering why you thought he used a thesaurus? it wouldn’t make sense to spend all that time trying to come up with various words, then looking them up to replace them. Finally ending up with the script or writing the script and then going back over it with a thesaurus! I get it though, especially if you live in America! When kids can barely even read! One would assume such things when interacting or listening to someone with an extensive vocabulary!

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I second this

But once the God Emperor was gone it was they who held power much like the Catholic church in the middle ages.

@@fredkelly6953Completely agree and find it fascinating that the all female Bene Gesserit appear to be modelled on and even sound like the all male catholic order the Jesuits.

Enjoy the adventure! A truly grand epic that captures the imagination

It’s been a minute- how are you finding the book?

"Dune Rise" on Dafont

In my opinion the best books in the series are the last two, Heretics and Chapterhouse. It's a damn shame that Frank died before finishing the story.

not worth it

Why?@@PilotFlo

@@adamplentl5588 They're boring, badly written, make oftentimes no sense (in Universe) lack the depth of the original and go in some points against canon

Glad you enjoyed it!

Yes, she is a pre-born. She becomes self-aware and conscious before being born. Because of the spice agony interaction, she has all her Other Memories opened to her before being born as well

I don't think it's close to how it's portrayed in the film however

In the book she had to project love and reassurance toward the frightened Alia… there words only between Jessica and the reverend mother… I don’t recall Alia speaking til she was born and perhaps a toddler. At two she spoke with a lisp yet because her vocal equipment had not fully developed.. likely she understood language soon after birth but would have had great difficulty speaking…

Yea, she was roughly 10 years old when the Baron Harkonnen was killed, and she mourned his death. I felt the movie changed this in an alright way, but misses some aspects of the nuance in her character.

It was probably an extinct word that doesn’t exist anymore

No. They lived off the "fear" people had of them. The term "witch" just proves that the universe didn't know their true purpose and abilities.

@@hallmark55 The term witch (at least in connection to dark magic) is a term that suits them very well imo. They are cold beings deprived of valubale emotions that prevent you from becoming a monstrous or monotone creature and they are only interested in power now. They posses arrogance beyond measure, but they are just a bunch of nasty b*tches, who turn themselfes into breeding ovens to infiltrate the universe like a virus that slowly corrupts everything. They are kinda like the Illuminati (according to the conspiracy)

Well, if they’re the ones in power, they don’t have to be “allowed” by anyone to do anything.

They weren’t allowed. They evolved to what they are with none the wiser. It was excellent strategy.

They made themselves indispensable; no need of allowance.

the young ones

Can you explain the strategy?

The God Emperor wanted to ultimately merge several traits. From the atredies the sense of self serving loyalty, and from the sisterhood the removal of their lack of emotion but to incorporate their long view and planning

Bro you are just speaking gibberish

Lol you def just don't read much ​@@MrRickeo

Gotta love The Sisters of Eugenics. j/k I don't think it's a coincidence that Herbert was writing this during a time when hormonal birth control (& later abortion ) gave women more control over their bodies than they had previously. The rise of feminist philosophy & women entering the workforce as well as politics has caused a lot of social change in the 20th & 21st century. I always felt the Bene Gesserit were an expression of those social anxieties as well as being built on on the history/mythology of the Oracle of Delphi, The Vestal Virgins of Rome, the witch hunts of the 17th century, the female leaders of Spiritualism & Harem Culture within the Ottoman Empire & ancient Egypt. There is definitely a lot to unpack about The Bene Gesserit.

Spoken like a true woketard. "At the same time, it’s a horribly sexist series of what would happen to a society if women had any control, whatsoever."- As a woman, I know damn well that women and men in power are both equally able to be corrupted by power, greed, perversion etc. You act like women dont have any control anywhere or never had. Heck, my country was ruled by a woman for over a decade and it was sometimes good but also often VERY bad. Some of the worst bosses I had were women too. The bene gesserit turned themselves into monotone, emotionless creeps nobody wants to have as a mother. They eradicated everything that makes a mother, a female, who carries life and gives birth to it, so wonderful and powerful in its own right. Love beyond words, warmth, nuturing protection etc. and nobody told them to do so. The women in DUNE, who arent part of the bene gesserit, are not like that it seems. Their children are not conceived without love and only born to be their next "soldiers" (except for the Harkonnen maybe). If anything, the bene gesserit remind me of modern feminists, who turn children into products that can either be thrown away when they are unwanted, or conceived without love when the hate for men is to big but the selfish desire for a child, that gets deprived of a father then, is there too...and of course the disappointment when the baby is male in the end. They want power and control and lose their humanity in the end.

Not to mention the dangers of organized religion, and mixing politics and religion.

aka BAD ASS