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You might have a point about the format being a problem, but calling the twins “frauds” is kind of an unnecessary low blow. They’ve completely turned things around since the all star break and have been playing like 90+ win team.
Exactly, the main issue with this entire video is the underlying assumption that better overall season record = better team. But obviously, how a team looks and performs in the latter part of the season is more important than the beginning, as injuries and trades can significantly reshape a roster and its potential. The complaint that somehow the Yankees were robbed of a postseason berth by the twins doesn't take into account that the twins have been the better team by almost every metric since the all-star break (42-29 as opposed to the Yankees 33-38, for example, though arguably against weaker opponents on average).
@@jaydee4177 Yankees in 2023 finished just one game over break-even (82-80) and finished in fourth place in their division, and there were four other non-first-place teams in the American League with better records, in addition to AL Central champion Twins, so Yankees were clearly not deserving of a playoff position this year.
Yankees fans when given a cupcake AL central opponent in the playoffs: 🥰😜😌 Yankees fans when other teams get the same exact opponent and they don’t make it: 🤬🤯😡
A hot take I have: If Minnesota doesn’t play the Yankees every time in that stretch, they win at least one playoff game since 2004 (not a series, but a game).
Just a heads up -- the Twins have been playing at a 97 win pace since the AS break, and they won the season series against both Houston and Texas. There's not that much difference between an 87 win team and a 92 win team in baseball.
I’m not a Twins fan, but saying that they’re “not a serious contender” is disrespectful. The truth is that the team who goes all the way and wins the world series is the team that gets the hottest and catches the breaks. That’s what makes it entertaining. Even the difference between the league’s best and worst teams is negligible in a short series. If that weren’t the case, the best teams would never lose amd the poorest teams would never win.
In the history of baseball, only 3 teams have ever won the World Series with 87 wins or fewer (in a full 162 game season). The ‘87 Twins, the ‘00 Yankees, and the ‘06 Cardinals. That’s 3/118 champions, so 2.5%. Also, all of those were won before the playoffs expanded so you had a shorter and easier road to a title. So I don’t think it’s unfair at all to say the Twins aren’t serious contenders. Is it conceivable that they could win it? Sure, it is within the realm of possibility. But if you seriously analyze the likelihood of it happening, it’s negligible. Baseball is a HIGHLY parity driven sport, but there are still significant skill gaps that show up more often than not. Fun fact: 92/118 World Series champions had a regular season win total of 95 or more (or they were on pace for that in a shortened season). That’s nearly 80% of all champions ever.
The Twins have arguably the best pitching staff top to bottom in baseball. No superstar names on the roster except maybe Correa, but great depth and quality and talent everywhere.
@@beanie3427 The Twins are so not serious contenders, they are headed to their home portion of the ALDS with Houston, tied at 1-1 after sweeping Toronto. If you think the Twins aren't serious, you clearly aren't watching them play and are just looking at their regular season record.
“Starts video I’m not a salty Yankees fan.” Starts talking sh*t about everyone else team while NY self implodes and sitting on the couch btw twins advance 🖕🏾
True the Yankees did just suck this year. I didn't mean this to be a full on diss of the Twins it's more using them to cover a greater issue with the divisions that should be fixed soon@@joshokogiefan
@@AndThatsBaseballbut you kept bringing up the Twins in your video. You forget to mention how other teams in the AL Central have had success in the past 20 years
Yankees fans always tryna buy their way to the playoffs. Probably spent 150 million more than the twins and had a worse record. Of course the twins can’t compete with the large market teams you donut, they’re being outbidded by millions every single year.
As a Twins fan, I appreciate being able to win a weak division to at least have a shot in playoffs. However, I think this problem is a symptom of the imbalance of small market teams vs big market teams. I’m aware of the statistics that show salary cap doesn’t have a huge impact on who wins the World Series, but small market teams have narrower windows to be great while big market teams seem to be consistently good. Basically, I think the problem is bigger than playoff seeding, but I’m not sure what the solution is. Also, you sound a little bitter for finally losing the season series to the Twins after 22 years 😉
There is definitely issues with market sizes in baseball, but I think that comes down to owners who are willing to spend. The twins signed correa, they’ve extended their talent, so they win the division. For that, I commend them.
@@AndThatsBaseball"willing to spend"... owners aren't in it for the hell of it. It's a business. Owners in small markets are not bringing in the money-even when they're successful- that a large market team does-even when they're unsuccessful- and that means they aren't bringing in enough to justify spending big. You can't just blame "cheap" owners when markets really do matter
@@stephen_csJohn Angelos should've already paid Adley and Gunnar. He's just a cheap owner. He threaded to raise prices in and around Camden Yards next year if the fans want our stars to stick around. What your saying is giving a pass to a cheap owner who is just greedy.
At that point it’s on the owner to “grow” his team. If they’re businessmen the onus is on them to grow their market and become more desirable for someone to get into. You can argue that teams like NY or LA have an inherent advantage but that’s not going anywhere. Besides, teams that should be small market can become bigger like the Green Bay Packers.
The "not a serious contender" Twins just swept the Blue Jays ( a team with a better record than them), and are now tied 1-1 in a series with the Astros (Another team with a better record), after winning by 4, on the road. We had a bad start to the season, but had a fantastic season after the ASB. Stop whining that your Yankees didn't make the playoffs, you'll make it back soon enough.
@@brandondillman5841by that logic we should make it to the ALCS because we did well against the Al west this year and we’ll play a team from that division. I know you don’t think that, so roll back your logic for a second. Also, we’re not that good just saying the O’s and rays are better than us would’ve been all you needed to say. Sorry if I came off angry, I’m just tried of losing in the playoffs
I’m a Braves fan and the twins are absolutely deserving. Their 18 game losing streak has nothing to do with this years team and bringing it up in the first place is pretty dumb. You just sound like a baby here.
@@chrisuncleahmad yeah I’m rooting for you guys. At least to get one win but I could see you guys taking a series depending on how the matchup shakes out.
Then Baltimore. I guarantee nobody would’ve traded spots with the rangers before the playoffs started, yet ALL of those teams are complaining how unfair it is…no way in hell they would’ve given texas their spot before the games started.
@@istaphobeas a twins fan I was really hoping to matchup against the rangers, lol mlb really didn’t want the twins to do much in the playoffs hoping for a rangers dbacks WS
This video aged poorly. The Twins are 1-1 with Houston and headed to home field advantage while the Orioles are down 0-2 and headed to Texas, the Rays have been bounced, and so have the Jays.
I think your premise is flawed by suggesting Minnesota isn't a potential contender. They're being heavily slept on because they played in the AL Central. Regular season records are meaningless once the playoffs start and their pitching can stand with just about anyone. If they get healthy on offense as expected, they can do a lot of damage
You can’t say the twins have just made the postseason because of their bad division, they’ve had really good teams. If you want more fair divisions then have a salary cap which would mean high market teams (Yankees) can’t buy out players every time the team that drafted them can’t pay them. You playoff idea works too but if there is no expansion then a salary cap even soft would be key
1 minute in and im done. Twins not a serious Contender? Thats crap. They have one of the best pitching staffs in the league, and any team can get hot in the playoffs. Yeah they have the worst record in the AL playoff race. But so freaking what? They could still finish with 89 wins too. The Braves won the WS in 2021 with the worst record amongst playoff teams. The Nats won it in 19 as a Wildcard. Hosting the first round of the playoffs is the reward you get for winning the division. If you dont like the current format, just get rid of divisions all together.
Well, as much as I like these guys, the Braves and Nats won in the NL East, whereas Minnesota played in the most garbage division in all of baseball. 😬
@@sheistybossman oh, im sorry we play in the most poor division in the league so that most of these teams cant/wont pay for players and make their teams better. Like thats our fault.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 You're a talented group, don't get me wrong, I love that pitching staff you have, but sadly it's never enough to get past the Big Dogs, didn't mean to be, well mean. My bad.
The point of the video is presenting a solution to the issue of your division being uncompetitive. I respect the Twins for going out there and spending on guys like Correa and extending your talent. But the disparity between divisions has been clear for a while.
Beat me too it lol. I love the Yankees, but am under no illusions as to their unfair advantages. Same with the Dodgers and other top market teams. Salary cap. Now
I think the bigger problem is that baseball Comptetive Balance Tax means that small market owners in the AL and NL Central can field a subpar team every year, make loads of money off the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc and still blackmail their cities into paying for stadiums.
It is very annoying that small and mid market owners pretend to be poor. I should've put out there that I do respect Minnesota for re-signing Correa and extending Buxton and others. If more teams in their division operated like them, this problem wouldn't exist.
@@AndThatsBaseballit’s not that their “pretending to be poor” it’s that they don’t make as much money as a large market team as a large market team like the Mets and Yankees who had the 2 largest salaries and still couldn’t make the playoffs
The NFLs olds 12 team format worked great. The number 1 seed would play the lowest remaining seed in the divisional round and the number 2 seed would play the highest remaining seed. I think that would solve some problems. So if the 6 seed beats the 3 seed the 1 seed should always get the “easiest” playoff matchup regardless of divisions. The twins should be rewarded for winning their division so the 3 seed hosts the 6 seed and if the 6 seed is better they should win. This also fixes the current format which imo is stupid because it doesn’t reseed.
Isn't this what the format is? Or are you trying to say a wild card team with a better record than a division winner should be the 2 seed? As it is now, top 3 seeds are division winners by record and 4/5/6 are wild card by record. 3 does play 6 in the first round, 4 plays 5. Second round #1 seed is already guaranteed the 4 or 5 seed & in reality the 6 seed usually ends up with a similar record to the 4 & 5. Sure #2 could play 4/5 winner if the 6 upsets the 3, then 6 plays 1 - but realistically if you expect to win the world series you can complain about playoff opponents... Just gotta get out there and beat them.
there is no problem with the playoff system. if a wildcard team is good enough to win the whole thing, it doesnt matter who they face or when. if they dont deserve to be there, they will get bounced no matter who they face and in what round. the 2022 phillies were on a mission nobody was going to stop in the NL. the 2014 giants, 2015 royals, 2019 nats were destined to make their runs. if none of the would be lower seed teams were destined to win it all, then they'd get steamrolled by that years juggarnauts like they were in 2016, 2017, 2020.
I'm just glad that you acknowledged that Hockey exists. The NHL playoff format is a bit more weird than sated but I would also like to add that some divisions do feel weaker than others. Everyone in hockey always clowns on the Pacific division because most of the time they only send 3 trams to the playoffs while the central sends 5.
I agree. You told the exact reason you made this video. Salty Yankee fan. “If you want in the playoffs win more games and get good.” Lol Anyways, the team most deserving of of winning the World Series will win regardless of the seeding.
Lamo, blames 18 losses on 1 season. But doesn't aknolowedge that the playoffs in the 00s we had to play a higher seed becuase they didn't want the red sox and yankees playing round 1
Ok buddy Minnesota is no fraud (thumbnail) they absolutely demolished the rangers multiple times, two of our three best players are underperforming or injured, if they were healthy and were performing as expected they would have the 1st seed easy. We always play the absolute best teams that year in the first round
I like how this man said " to bad to sad get better skill issue" after complaining his team wasn't good enough to make the play offs Yankees have to be better my guy all their other division team made the play offs
Twins ain’t bad, people talk about great 2nd halves all the time and the twins are having one, just because the Yankees aren’t doesn’t mean you have to be mad at the twins, twins sweep their way to the World Series
Damn that’s actually crazy… maybe the Yankees can add another $100 million to their payroll so they can make the wild card next year 😢 Would spare us from another one of your sob stories
I'm a lifelong die-hard Minnesota Twins fan, and I don't take exception to anything you say. You're 100% right. But I'd argue a different point: The root problem is, as it's been for decades, lack of balance between big-market and small-market clubs. Baltimore's great success this year and the perennial success of the Rays aside, small-market franchises are just too badly handicapped, and most of these clubs are in the Midwest and Mountains. Without an NFL-style system of salary caps, the teams with a guaranteed fat revenue stream will dominate, unless management is so bad they find a way to lose, like the Mets. The league office and the Player's Association would have to allow salary caps to happen.
This is the take I subscribe to as well. Realistically the game will never be balanced so long as teams have the "option" to play by a salary cap rule. I'm a Twins fan myself, and I'll fully admit that this year's team realistically is one of the weakest of the AL playoff teams even if they won the division, but it's definitely a hard to agree with Yankees fans complaining about the system as if their team didn't also beat up on garbage teams for decades from the 80's to the late 2000's. I agree the playoff system could use a revamp, but unless divisions get a complete overhaul either they mean something or they don't. An argument against this video could even be how about the top team from each conference plays the WS like it was for YEARS.
The Twins aren't a small market team though. Their payroll is higher than the Rays and O's combined. They're middle of the pack as far as market size is concerned.
@@hotdangers their TV market size, which is all that matter when we're talking about how much money the team makes from the TV deals, ranks 15th in baseball. This is a fact. The Twins will always have a competitive advantage over teams like the Rays, O's, Brewers, Reds, Royals, Pirates, Guardians etc. It doesn't matter if the Twins go 0-162 and the Rays go 162-0, the Twins will always make considerably more money. It's the biggest problem the MLB faces.
Re-seeding is as easy a solution as it gets. Example: Last years NLDS. With re-seeding, the #6 Phillies would play the #1 Dodgers, while the #5 Padres play the #2 Braves.
The bigger issue is the 1 and 2 seeds getting a week off until the division series. This isn't football. Not facing live pitching for that long is a disadvantage. Helps rest your pitchers a bit, but they need to be consistently playing too. Expect at least 1 wild card winner in the WS at least every other year
The 2022 format proved your theory was 50% right. The wild card in the national league did very well. But the American leagues top 2 seeds went to the alcs
“ The twins need to earn home-filed advantage “ win their division… but they should be away to a team who didn’t ? Win ur division should be every teams first priority every division is a weak or strong one at some point in time
This format of playoff baseball is just wacky to me, because unlike every other sport, the player who gives a team the highest chance to win is an ace starting pitcher who only plays 1 of every 5 days, 4 if they *really* need him. Wild cards and byes guarantee some teams just won't have their ace until late in a series if at all, and completely throws the rotation out of wack. The whole point and appeal of the playoffs is watching the best vs the best. Obviously this isnt always gonna be the case with injuries but ace vs ace matchups are so cool
The format is a problem in the NFL as well. Because you have teams that have a lower record that end up higher seeds all the time. *HOWEVER* That's why they say that the easiest way to the playoffs is winning your division. That's the goal of every major sports team; win your division, don't settle for a Wild Card spot. Stating that the Twins are frauds in this video is completely unnecessary, especially after the ASB. Throughout all 162 games, like you state, the Twins have had one of the best, if not the best, starting rotations in the Majors. The bats finally came alive after the ASB, especially after they finally stopped trying to shove Buxton in the line up because, "superstar"... Yankees are out, deal with it. Stating that the Twins don't deserve to be in the playoffs based solely on their record, or be the lowest possible seed, is bullshit, and you know it.
I'm curious if you're able to see that every thing you put forward seems to be favorable to the Yankees. Like an east west divide that forces much more travel to western teams over the course of a season. Why don't we just have the winner of the ws play the Yankees for the title after the playoffs?
This is ridiculously stupid. The NL and AL Central teams are at an inherent disadvantage because they are tiny markets compared to the east and west coast team. And in a sport with no salary cap, it’s going to be infinitely harder to compete with teams who are bringing in so much more money. The system works as it is, just cause the Yankees suck doesn’t mean you can complain
Im not saying a word because I wouldnt even say a word if my favorite team got in the same way. Truth be told. I want 2 leagues 4 divisions. But I dont want change for the sake of change per se. Change to spite small markets like Minny.
If you want the 3 seed to go to the team with the 3rd best record in each league, then the NHL’s playoff system should go back to 1-8 seeding based on record for each conference.
IMO leave the WCS as it is, re-seed for LDS. For this year example, sure either Orioles or Rays get the bye but at least they won't be facing each other on the ALDS.
Stf this is the reason why baseball playoffs are so exciting and fun to watch because any team can win it. In the NBA one of the top 3 teams in the whole league wins the championship every year because of the seeding system they have and its very predictable and boring. The 2006 Cardinals won the WS as a 82 win team and their division was dogshit the whole year too. On top of that, back then that was like a 6 team division too.
Once manfred expansion happens there will be 32 teams. So easy switch to 2 leagues of 8 within each division. But for now it is what it is. Playoff baseball is unpredictable but it makes it more fun.
You already play less division games starting this year. 12 teams already get in….no team should EVER complain about not getting a fair chance of making the playoffs
“Win more games, get good, skill issue” extremely funny coming from a Yankees fan this year lol spent 280 million just to miss the playoffs even if you were in the “weak central”
I think I would do one better. You get in if you win your division but the seeding is based on record completely. That's how I would do it. I want to see the best teams be rewarded for a good season but also keep the traditional division format
Did you even ever look at the this years season series between all the playoff teams. The seeding sucks for the twins. Twins want to play Texas. The crushed that Team. Head to head 4-2 twins over Houston. So not too bad.
the first solution where the worst divison winner's record is compared to the wild cards teams is great. I would also add reseeding after the wc round, this way 1 seed is always garunteed an easier opponent than the 2 seed in the divisional round. It seems that teams sangbag to purposefully be the 6 seed in the current format if they are in a battle for the 5/6 seed.
Format is fine. If they want better seeding, they should have a better season. Tampa had every opportunity to win their division and have the number one seed, but they didn't. If Tampa is the second best team in the American League they should have no problem playing any team in front of them, regardless of the seeding. Otherwise just get rid of division if winning a division doesn't reward a team with anything.
the 3rd position is considered better because it is a division title. all 3 division titles are supposed to be on equal levels. wild card teams should always be less than a divisional title due to the general greater difficulty in achieving the position of division leader over a simple wild card slot, and it incentivizes teams to go for the title, instead of being content to cut corners. if you can't win on the road to a "weaker" team, then you don't need to be there anyway.
I think the current format is fine, and the AL Central being so weak this year is an unfortunate anomaly, similar to the 2015 NL Central being so strong. There should be an incentive and a reward for winning your division, and the season is more exciting with races for more spots (divisional champions and Wild Card spots). There are definitely some changes they could make, but I think it's not wise to use one league of one season's results to call for change to how seeding works. Also, (and I know the video was made a few days ago), but if it was top 6 records in the league the Mariners would make it in over the Twins.
I agree that the system is not good. I don't know about broken but something has to be done. I also do not like when the winners of their division get a break but more often than not lose when they play their first series. Maybe location in the US (rivalries/fan interest)and best record could account for something.
I totally agree this is a problem. Your solution is good, but what about 4 divisions and 2 wild cards, like the NFL used to be? Although it could still lead to bad teams winning divisions. Perhaps west and east is a better format and the 162 games will decide where you end up, not who your competition is in your division.
