The Case of Karen Silkwood 

lonnie phillips I’m sorry for your family’s loss. I hope you all feel you received some justice. Though not enough clearly.

Why is her daughter so mean talking about her like she was nothing?

I'm so sorry for your loss. I have heard her story many times and always believed that she was trying to do the right thing and it cost her her life. I can only hope that she knows her death wasn't in vain, and the company was investigated after death. I felt horrible hearing the words her daughter said about her. She was only 28 when she died, her daughter couldn't have been that old. It sounds like things she must have heard growing up from people who disliked her. Sad.

@@yazkat1011 im not sure why? i can only assume maybe she felt her mother wasnt there for her enough & was more "into" work things, as a young mind not knowing what was really going on? We are all pretty baffled too. When we get together for our Reunions, we don't exactly sit around talking about this, we acknowledge she's gone & missed, but never too deep into things.

@@lonniephillips4028 Im really sorry for your loss. Sorry I was asking. But it just feels so weird you know. I mean its her mum. She didnt do anything wrong. My mum also died young and I wish I could bring her back every single day you know. So I could never talk about my mum like that. Sorry if I sounded offending or anything.

Sounds like something Sir Hillary Clinton would do!

4 other people who were ordered to testify were killed to prevent them sharing what they knew of Karen's death.

Right from the Boeing playbook.

Bomb Shell

Foxy-CAM TV There is a documentary comparing Corporations to psychopaths. It was fascinating

She discovered evidence of enough missing plutonium to create several nuclear bombs? Wtf?

Well… I wonder what happened to that missing plutonium? Maybe an idiot got a hold of it and sold it to a bunch of arabs for petty cash.

A space program called first wave that ran on the space station from 1999 to 2001 did an episode that seems to resemble the general specifics of this case. In season two. Unfortunately I can’t remember the name of the episode. I wonder if the show based that episode on this case.

It's disgusting isn't it

I never watched it but now I will

That movie was an eye opener. It's a great movie

wonder did the family get royalties from the movie in addition to lawsuit money? I hope so

I was about to ask how is this not a movie,

Me too room 101 we must be about the same age

they probably paid off people in court to shut their mouths

Matthew Pitre they just as guilty too then

Amen she was and is a Hero.

Karen was a Heroin (Hero is the masculine.)

JOHNNIE, maybe you meant ‘heroine’. Just be a bit careful at the spelling as you might confuse it with a drug.

FREE LEONARD PELTIER

Same ppl were part of the Bhopal gas tragedy. The Anderson's.

Now it's "Epstein didn't kill himself"

I recall that too.

Before social media, bumperstickers were our memes

so true

Ronald McDonald....how sweet...

HELLA FACTS!

Tobacco companies: that's good, for a beginner

Btw, today's new designs for nuclear power plants are very safe and not subject to sabotage. If people are really serious about reducing carbon pollution, and not using it as a political weapon, the we should embrace nuclear energy. It is cheaper and less damaging on the environment. "Clean energy" is prohibitively expensive (especially for the poor) and isn't even close to meeting our needs. Nat gas is a decent stopgap, but it still produces hydrocarbons.

And it's not the first time they stole uranium from us. "The Apollo Affair was a 1965 incident in which a US company, Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC), in the Pittsburgh suburbs of Apollo and Parks Township, Pennsylvania was investigated for losing 200-600 pounds (91-272 kg) of highly enriched uranium, with suspicions that it had gone to Israel's nuclear weapons program."

You pick ed

You pick ed

Yes. We need more Karen Silkwoods. And less karens.

More dead people?

the only reason the plant comes up short, sometimes, is because employes keep eating it, i guess ...

Omfg this killed me. I was just thinking this

Maybe the government just does what it wants cuz America is full of brainwashed idiots who believe all their bullshit

Silkworm?

Could be tactical. The company could've been eyeing up the family

😂😂😂Silkworm I can't stop laughing it's Silkwood Carol!

Id imagine autocorrect was responsible for calling her Karen "Silkworm". Lol. As always, thanks, autocorrect, for ruining one life at a time, comments section by comments section. 🤣

@@mellvee 😂🤣😂Too True!

Yeah that's why you open your mouth and tell them you're gonna call OSHA if they don't do something

Will do, appreciate it!

Stop stop they are so cruel

And oh the good old key witnesses oldest trick in the book of committing suicide by shooting her self twice in the forehead while having her hands tied behind her back.

Or she’s just being self protective so they don’t put Plutonium in HER fridge.

Her daughter was only 8 when Karen died. I don't think she understood anything her mother was doing. Seems like the daughter is a troublemaker here.

Was such a strange response to have when its so clear her mother was killed. She was a little kid when it happened, so fk knows how shes come to have that opinion of her own mother.

That's what cowards call heros

I thought the same thing. I grew up in a bad divorce battle and my mom tried to pin my sister and I against my dad all the time and his side of the family, not so much him til later on, would shit talk about my mom. It's made our relationships as adults fractured because there was always so much mud throwing I never really got a healthy view of my parents and dipped the second I turned 18 and could.

Thanks for watching Denise!

Karen apparently wanted a divorce from her husband. He refused to give it to her unless she gave him custody of the kids which she initially didn't agree to. She finally just walked out and finally agreed to relinquish the kids to him as long as he would allow her to see them. Whether or not her actions constitute abandonment, I guarantee you that her kids saw it that way and probably resented her their whole lives. The rest of the world remembers her as a hero but to them she's just a shitty mom who walked out on them.

I remember seeing that and being so disturbed!

That was the part I always have thought of. That movie really changed the way I looked at things

A real amazonian

You’re an idiot

@@jbc_8110 no YOU are😡 dimwit

me '83 was3 seeing her being scrubbed w that wire brush when they had to scan themselves enter exit i agree w your mom karen was the wrong one to f w

@UtoobeIsTrash . youngster the 80s you watched what was shown i clearly rember 80s movies besides a radio, outside or landline phone you was watching tv and your parents outrank you so your watching there movies and tv shows

Cough Joan of Arc?

Right on!✊🚺I love your mom!! Just hearing that one sentence says everything I need to know!

Misty lee...if you enjoyed that check out "unnatural causes" about maude devector who was an admin at veterans hospital and fought to make the government acknowledge agent orange problems. John Ritter plays in it and I think it was 1984 when made. Another boss bit## that you never hear of.

"At tree turdy"

Saw it in the theatre in the 80's

Lol 😆😆😆 VERY GOOT!!

I think he would say it’s best the turd time you watch it

@@anthonysisneros9501 my left l

Or perhaps "Epsteined".

Ah the classic Epstein Treatment.

Bunch of noobs. We argies had the iranians moping up a federal attorney one day before he was due to appear in court telling everyone how our Empress... I mean Cristina Kirchner colluded with Iran to cover up the Bombing of the AMIA building. And her personal secretary got wacked a few months ago, a couple of weeks before having to testify against her.

​@@The_Modeling_Underdog You should read more about the case. There was a indeed a cover up, and this is probably the reason why Nisman is dead. Unfortunately, you lack the information (that is online and on books, and the information released by victim's organizations). Nisman was one of the prosecutors (together with Barbaccia and Mullen) in the initial investigation of the AMIA attack. Guess what? The investigation was considered to be "void" because (in the 90s) it was found that Judge Galeano had conversations with one suspect/person of interest, Telledin, in which he asked him to lie (this is recorded). Galeano promised him money (and later declared that Stiuso, a former secret service agent who threatened a judge on a tv show, convinced Nisman not to investigate the police of Bs As as the local connection with terrorists). This "friendship" between Nisman and Stiuso freed Nisman from being accused of covering up the Attack against the Amia building. Galeano and the two other prosecutors that worked with Nisman were also prosecuted, together with Beraja (the director of Banco Mayo who defrauded the clients of the bank and was thought to be the person to provide the money for Telleldin). In 2019, despite the disagreements of the families and political leaders such as Lilita Carrió, Garavano (minister of justice of Macri) tried to exonerate the two prosecutors and partially succedded coz they were only convicted for a minor shit and not for ther cover up. Beraja was indeed exonerated (no wonder why, he had connections with the mother of Maria Eugenia Vidal, the governor of Buenos Aires during Macri's admnistration). Nobody cared about it in the media. Nisman had been part of that investigation, and in the course of the new case he was building for the amia (although the case was not seriously investigated), he had received threats from Bonadio, and some other judges that "cried" on the media and blamed Cristina K. Now, the real terrorists are free, the people who were trying to cover up as well (wit the exception of Galeano because he was stupid to be "caught"). Not to mention that, Alfredo Palacio (also accused in the cover up case) "illegally tapped the phone of the families of the victims of the attack against the Amia. He was the chief police of the city of Bs As when Mauricio Macri was governor) not to mention that he participated in the dictatorship. Who wanted him dead? Do you see the connections? Why Beraja (also director of Jewish assosiation) tried to cover up the attack? investigate

some might also say, "SLOPPY JOB MOSSAD"

Well, until Epstein.

@@thinkingronin6178 lol yall still think Epstein is dead?

How about JFK right in front of everyone

You obviously haven't seen much.

Jay Lorbeer - the use of "literally" adds nothing to you sentence. It creates the impression your are a teenage girl who feels the need to talk in exclamation points all of the time. Please remove that word, and resubmit

We have the right to a jury of our peers unless the government doesn't like the verdict.

I grew up in Edmond, OK where she lived. We used to drive by the Kerr McGee plant most weekends as we when to a cabin my grandparents owned about a mile from the plant. We regularly swam in the Cimmaron River, which was less than a 1/4 mile from the plant. Decades later there is still plutonium in the groundwater there. I wonder how many people died of cancer in that area?

The destruction of Unions in our country has been the largest blow to the Working Class in any of our lives. It's sad and infuriating. Workers have NO rights. Corporations rule.

@@jvang2293 I'm still union

Money talks

Thank you!

And the son wondered aloud if she did it to become a legend. I can't help but listen to these people who knew her best. That isn't to say that she wasn't the subject of harassment. But maybe she DID perpetrate some of these things upon herself. In this age of Jussie Smollet, is that really such a difficult thing to believe? Don't forget, unions aren't church choirs. They know how to play dirty too.

Brainwashed by TV and schools.. -at times I feel very lucky that I'm awake, albeit a burden. 💙✝️

I guess her kids hated her

Not so uncommon actually. People are ASSHOLES. First you've got two kids growing up without a mother and already resenting that. Then you've got the company feeding them a line their entire lives. THEN, without their mother's influence... they just grow up to be jerks on top of it. Could that be shocking considering the state of the country today?

Maybe money was talking to her family aswell.i hope not

How do you feel about Mike essentially calling her crazy and selfish for exposing shady government dealings, simply because admitting otherwise would go against his anti conspiracy stance on most other issues?

Many of us in Oklahoma have never forgotten

..and that her daughter sounds like a brat!! Calling her late brave mother a “trouble maker” for everything she went through but still fought like a champ!? What a little ingrate!

Businesses almost always care more about money than people .

Woman not women.

Doing her job would’ve been listening to her superiors, ignoring shit and taking home a paycheck. She got herself killed by trying to be a “hero”

@@davidgould7366 hundreds of people died as a result of radiation contamination doing just that and she probably saved the lives of hundred ,if not thousands more by her actions .

agreed. she didnt deserve what happened to her, and it should never happen again. but alas this is America after all. alot of backwards shit goes down in the name of so called "progress".

@@aperturealpha6760 Profit

So do I how the hell was it in her home 🤔🤔

Yeah why would she poison herself when the company was already clearly guilty? Obviously someone got in her gear at work and her home and poisoned gloves etc to kill her. No good deed goes unpunished....

Being decontaminated is not horrible. If you are basing that on the scenes in the movie that is not how decontamination happens. I do believe this plant was unecessarily risking the lives of their workers and that there were plenty of violations. My ex worked in a nuclear power plant and I was so grateful they followed all safety procedures.

Federal government MURDERED HER! Those who killed her,will see the devil infinitely

Between Silkwood, Chernobyl and the Man who saw tomorrow, I have been terrified of all things radioactive, since I was about 6 or 7 years old.

@@kristinwood8884 How about the battery powering your computer?

@@randymillhouse791 I do see your point. Silkwood and The Man Who Saw Tomorrow, came out when I was under 10, I watched way too young and the fear has stayed with me. Other than fear, I have an odd fascination with these stories, some people watch horror movies, I watch/read true stories about nuclear disasasters, to me they are way more frightening.

@@kristinwood8884 I agree with you Kristin. Truth IS stranger than fiction. How about the Valuejet flight out of Miami Florida... 1996 if I recall... lithium batteries caught fire and the plane crashed in the Everglades. FRIGHTENING! Or, how about the apartment complex in Surfside Florida lately? VERY DISTURBING. Much more than a zombie with a machete.

@@randymillhouse791 I remember the ValuJet crash, I'm from Fl. born and raised, I had to fly home from OH the next day. Even though I flew often back then, it was unnerving. Yes life IS stranger and scarier than fiction.

@cameron Arvin the boss does no labor. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

The only time in my life and 25 year nursing career was for standing up for my co-workers and 'whistleblowing'. I fought for unfair dismissal and won. You can't give in 'big business'.

I'm from the area as well, did you also grin at how he said Nederland and Lamar? Lol

Righteous?

Thank you!

@Jose Mejia Jr.lofl you beat me to it dude

Actually, Fear is the reason why.

People try...but sometimes the government stops them. There is a specific whistleblower lawsuit through the govt and let me tell you from personal experience. It doesn’t help and leads to problems. That’s another reason people don’t come forth. I took my story to the Chicago tribune.

@@___LC___ "That’s mother reason people don’t come forth" what

@@ghostsyynx Another...what, you can’t translate from autocorrect into English? I thought that was a general skill we all picked up.

See he movie!

“The”

You know what they say…. *”No good deed goes unpunished.”* 😒😔

Thanks dude!

Wonder who was buying the material....

@@sayingthethingstheywont2619 Soviets perhaps but, she could have been selling. The radiation turned up nowhere else but, her house. Is RADaway real or something? I don't think so. Knowledge is power

@@coreym162 Israel is far more likely. They have a history of false flags and nefarious activity. Besides, I can't see the US government or even an independent company selling to the Soviets during the cold war. Not when that was near the height of CIA power. That's treason which is punishable by death. It's far more likely the government was involved to help supply Israel and small groups with plutonium to use for an attack, ir to keep things off the books from nuclear inspectors

@@coreym162 Wes is right, The US has a hard-on for Israel for some reason, and it's far more likely that a whistleblower who was obviously concerned about the effects of radioactive material wasn't stupid enough to get loads of it all over her house and instead was simply poisoned (or attempted to be, anyway).

Thanks Mary!

Lacey Brown uh yeah seriously!! My jaw dropped when I heard her statement, wonder if she got paid off

@@nightmaresocietyradio1650 Crazy, right?! My Mom would come back from the dead and smack the shit outta me, lol.

@@nightmaresocietyradio1650 good question

Maybe her daughter was "paid off". Or, maybe her daughter knows certain things about her that we (the public) don't. Who knows.

@@nightmaresocietyradio1650 maybe she wasn't paid off maybe she was threatened

Thank you!

A Hi yes indeed

Sure does!

Absolutely

Ha! That's exactly why I'm watching it right now. I click on a thumbnail and anxiously wait to see if the like button has already been pushed. I'm rapidly running out of unwatched episodes.

I guess a big part of her daughter believes if she had been quiet and just kept her head down and done her job, not rocked the boat, Karen would have been there to raise her. I know why Karen did what she did, but I can also understand the anger of the child who was left bereft.

That is the judgment of a weak person on a strong one.

@@disgruntledmum4916 I agree I think her daughter was speaking out of anger because her mother didn't think about the children knowing how dangerous of a position she put herself in.

@@sprice9964 I don't think Karen Silkwood could realistically have foreseen that some shadowy organisation would murder a woman, so I think it's a bit unfair to say she wasn't thinking about her kids. I know the US has a bit of a history with murdering whistleblowers and state/federal complicity in allowing that to be unpunished, but would she know that then? It's hard to remember how difficult obtaining information could be at that time when the internet brings all of it straight to us. And I think that her daughter forgets that too. It must be hard to think of someone you barely remember as a hero.

Probably because she abandoned her and her siblings when they were quite young. After the divorce.

@Unknown User exactly, so they should be nutural.

She was a warrior!

Her daughter sounds like an ungrateful brat!! I agree that she should keep her ungrateful hands off the money.

That was almost fifty years ago! How long do you think a million would last! Hopefully they at least got a decent education out of it!

Her daughter was young and probably needs the money for a good psycho therapist remember this was years ago

Thanks Anne!

I watched the movie many times...rarely see this covered

I read this comment right as he said it lol too funny!

Best binge watch evet

Evet

Ever damn it i need a sup

We need more of this type of Karen!

Well, there are PLENTY of programmed ppl...daughter is one of the majority, not thinking her own thoughts, programmed to diss truthers. Not any different from the majority of ppl, really.

Tracy Dee the drugs were probably planted in the car before local law enforcement even got to the accident scene.

Exactly. It's the way of this world now. The bigger piece of shit you are the more places you're gonna go. It's sad. Good people really need to start waking up

@@G35Jeff the coroner said that she had, I believe twice the recommended dosage of the drugs in her system. So, yes they could have planted them in the car, but they also somehow would have had to get her to take the drugs beforehand. Possibly spiked a drink she was drinking before she left or something.

@@mikehunt8375 I know that's right!

@@G35Jeff or maybe the coroner could have been paid off just to say she had these certain drugs in her system at the time of death. I feel that shit probably happens more often than we would believe when it comes to high profile type cases such as this.

Appreciate it!!

Boris I agree with every word Mr B

Proof we need unions.

I thought the same thing. I recommend reading up on the Samson Option if you haven't. It really puts the puzzle together.

But what would Israel want with plutonium? :-/

Israel didn't care where their plutonium came from, they just felt they needed a bomb or two to keep their neighbours in line, and the US Government didn't openly support their nuke program. We're pawns in the game of politics.

I mean.... it's anti semetic right?

@@TheMouseAvenger Nukes. They got 'em.

Oh they know exactly where it went 😂

It always shows up in the last place you look/will ever look.

Honest mistake

Reminds me of the reports of missing "suitcase nukes" that disappeared from Russias arsenal when the Cold War ended...alot of them

More recently, all the commercials Amazon is putting out about how they are taking care of their employees during the pandemic is awful. Amazon (allegedly) spends more money on those commercials than actually making sure their employees are safe. I knew a wonderful guy who worked at an Amazon warehouse. Knew. The keyword. He’s dead now. We talked about how Amazon was helping keep workers safe. I still remember him laughing it off like “oh they don’t”. He contracted Covid-19 (along with others in the same warehouse) and left behind 2 kids.

@@bexica5676 thanks for sharing your thoughts as well as what happened to your friend at Amazon, that's awful and shouldn't have been a possibility. It's one thing for such a wealthy, wealthy corporation to spend small fortunes on blatantly transparent PR and ads, but putting ones together that claim health and safety (I'm guessing the claims were meant to put Amazon customers at ease more so than their workers filling orders...)but is beyond shallow to do so during a pandemic. A running joke for our city of Calgary, is our phone company Telus, who are constantly shoveling expensive ads that feature cute animals or lizards doing cute things - while their customer service (likely outsourced like many companies to far flung centres in India)is atrocious, inept and has ridiculous wait times for their existing customers. It's clear what's important and what isn't. There's no shame with these corporations, because there's no one to BE ashamed - that's the sick beauty of a corporation, it's faceless. We get CG'd animals rather than a listening, cooperative and sincere human being. The greatest mistake we've ever made, and one we will likely never be able to correct, was when our governments granted a corporation more rights and freedoms than a citizen. (Apologies for the rant, I'd say I was working on the issue but each smarmy, insulting ad simply breeds more issues...)

This country worships money. All the evidence of that is exemplified by the fact that our country, through "Citizens United", granted corporations status as individual citizens and their lobbyists control our government, and culminating in the leader of the free world now occupying the white house. Frick Kerr-McGee and the horse they rode in on.

@@cutieowl347 wow - thanks for sharing that, I felt the 'realness' in how you described learning about how things operate under the surface and out of sight. I know, sometimes I'll be talking about these things and wonder 'has this society turned me into a die hard cynic, or worse, do I come off as someone who feasts on conspiracies' ?!? Honestly I don't think most people go down these roads - likely because it doesn't interest them, they have whatever is going on in their life to focus on, or for some maybe they already suspect how grim things are when it comes to business, politics etc and just don't want to upset themselves

They poisoned her milk she drank daily at home. Ask her dad Mel.

Sad to think they probably had some board meeting & voted to kill her & then discuss the most convenient means to achieve that through poisoning her food.

Well. Israel was involved so there ya go

I think the movie version showed that they went into her house and contaminated her home.

"Thanks" for "sharing" "your" story.

@@CA-vy8et "I get it", "thanks" for "pointing" that out and "sharing" "your" opinion. : )

@@debbieprokop9401 lol no hard feelings.

@@CA-vy8et No worries! : )

Debbie Prokop yes they are still happing. They call themselves the Clintons and they do this same thing daily I’m sure

Have you also seen the CBS TV movie about the case, 1980's "The Plutonium Incident"? :-) It stars Janet Margolin & Powers Boothe, among others.

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Thanks Michael!

michael green all this was covered in the movie, Silkwood.

CIA killed her.

But remember, $4.00/hr was decent money at the time, considering minimum wage was much less than that.

I made $2.65 in 1976 when I started work.

That's about $20dlls in 2021s money.

Overpaid clearly

That was decent $ at the time.