When a cop sits with you in an interrogation room and says, “I know you’re not some sick bastard who gets enjoyment out of hurting people,” that’s exactly what he knows you are.
@@orheanustefan7841 well because it may be what they suspect or believe, but it's not what they know for a fact. You can find interrogations where the suspect is innocent and they use the same tactics you see here. It's actually kind of embarrassing to watch because the detectives will act exactly the same way with an innocent person as they do with a guilty person. They say all the same things like "we know you did it, we're past that, we're giving you the opportunity to make it easier on yourself" and so on. When they're right and the suspect is susceptible to the technique, it makes the detectives look like master manipulators, but when they're wrong or the suspect is on to the game, they look like fools.
Don't want to defend a criminal but she was only 18 and probably didn't know it would end up like this though... I've skipped some parts of the video so tell me if I'm wrong, but to me it seems she just did what she was told, probably was coerced or something
@@elbachsito1304 lol no. Even the best possible outcome of abducting an 8 year old girl for her sicko boyfriend (the rare occurrence where the victim doesn't end up dead) is horrific to comprehend. Being complicit in this kind of crime is abhorrent, no matter which way you look at it. What could she possibly expected to have happened to deserve leniency?
The line about “you aren’t acting like innocent people act, or how falsely accused people act.” Absolute brutal line which is why Mike responded defensively. He realized his act wasn’t working.
I love how Michael Rafferty tried to play the mysterious bad boy his whole life, but he is reduced to a whining, sobbing, moody little toddler in the face of grown men. He even needed a blankie.
2 grown men who couldn't get this whining sobbing moody little toddler to crack. Michael never broke. he never confessed. He saw right through their good cop/bad cop routine, he saw right through their "do you want food" trick. And he never confessed. That little boy won this interrogation and lost the case overall 3 years later
The ability for these detectives to switch strategys on the fly is a very impressive skill. "I think im to sick to talk" "Thats okay you can just listen" *talks nonstop for half an hour*
I even liked "We all make mistakes - that's why pencils have erasers." In the context he used it it's such a strong yet so super inadequate metaphor that it might actually caused something to happen inside the head of Michael
Max lmfao there’s videos of him interrogation other killers like Paul Bernardo and he roasts them all, he’s known around here as a very good detective but he’s also hilarious sometimes
I noticed that the first detective is kind of struggling to make the "I've seen worse" trick on Michael because it really doesn't get much worse than what he did.
@@radicalgoose1923 Thank you. I never pressed charges but our whole family knows what he did. Some believe me and some don’t but there’s nothing I can do about that. He will have to answer to god in the end and that’s what matters.
normally i don’t think like that watching these, but by the end the endless dramatic self pity and guiltless bitching made me want to do bad things to his face.
@@pauliussvirskas6734bro....no. No doubt he suffered some things but killing and rping a child definitely makes him a monster and I wish they would throw him in general population and stream the carnage.
That detective has some *incredible* self control. The way he keeps his tone balanced, and steady as he tells a child rapist and murderer that "we all make mistakes" is *very* impressive.
The hardest part is he not shivering and feeling bad about the little girl life or family, he’s shivering and terrified about going to jail forever. That’s horrible.
It makes it even worse knowing he’s faking it to try and seem innocent cause he doesn’t know all the evidence is stacked up against him. What an absolute piece of shit, the victim complex in strong with this one.
This should be a training video for interrogators all over the world. This guy is masterful. Also, I hope Rafferty's remaining days are painful and filled with extreme misery, horror and lots of trauma.
It's a good thing that prisons don't take kindly to predators. In there they basically have their own justice system. 16-18, you're good. 15-12, not so much. Anything below that is treated by beatings if you speak a word about it. They're bad guys, but they're not *bad guys.*
They most likely will be. I have a friend who did time in prison. He said that sometimes child predators are sequestered from the general public but it depends on the tier level of security. Inmates always find out what you’re in for.
The guy could have said, "I am not saying shit until I am fed!" And i bet you they would get him food. He doesn't realize that he has the power in this situation. He is an idiot and a monster!
@@FreeOpenTruth I've seen another interview where the cops thought the guy committed an armed robbery. He kept saying "I'll talk if I get a coke and a butterfinger" they gave him two cokes but eventually realized he wasnt going to talk😂😂
It’s because of this case I regularly ask my young daughters “what do you do if a stranger asks you to come look at a puppy?” They answer “run away and find help.” And if they try to grab you? “Kick and scream as loud as you can.” I hope Tori’s tragic story will prevent even just one child from becoming another victim.
This story really hits hard, I remember my mum telling me when I was younger, if someone wanted to show me a puppy, I would go with them, it sends chills through me, there are a lot more monsters out there now x
Make sure you tell them to yell “I don’t know this person!” Abductors can often tell passerby that it’s their child and they are throwing a tantrum. Heard of a few kids who got picked up that way.
Not him sniffing, trying to feign remorse. How disgusting. This is one of the worst cases I’ve ever had the displeasure of hearing about. Tori would have been my exact age if she was still alive today. It’s awful that she never got to grow up. I haven’t been this angry in a while. This is such a well put-together video, JCS. Thank you for your work.
Whats funny, is I had a friend with a huge grow op( before weed was legal) in an 100yo old house. Because of shitty wiring and the house burned down. All that was visibly left was the evidence of a grow op. When she was arrested she was so distraught that her dog died of smoke inhalation they offered her counselling for tbe dog AND they ordered whatever food she wanted and in fact took her through s drive thru in their cruiser. Of course she was only growing pot and not raping and murdering a child.
@@eratoisyourmuse659 did she get charged with anything? after watching these crime documentaries growing pot seems like a 7 year old snatching a gum from a gas station lol not a big deal to begin with but you know.
I just read the Wikipedia page with the details of her injuries, and it made me sick. I can't wrap my head around how someone could so viciously beat and assault an innocent little girl. You could see this guy out and about anywhere and never suspect what a monster he is. It's just crazy.
I would recommend that you be sure you want to learn about it as knowledge is poison in certain cases. You can google this case with Wikipedia added and then read through the more visceral details there. I would like to remind you that there are fantastic people who do awesome things in this world and sick people like these is not all what humanity is about. @@deez2569
The female accomplice killed the kid. She beat her to death with a flaw hammer. She admitted to that after the verdict so she couldn't get double jeapordy. Clever. She beat up an inmate for no good reason. Why admit to something like that? Because she was proud of what she did.
@Ty The Great not when you do it on purpose and god knows what other monstrosities he has done for pleasure He is not traumatised he's just disgustingly pathetic
Dudes sleeping well every night eating 3 meals a day and we’re paying for it smh. After what he did that’s fckin wild he can step any where without getting bodied
@@Bane92"sleeping well with 3 square meals" do you think prison is a 5 star all-inclusive resort? snap back to reality as if prisons arent notorious for random acts of violence and their play doh food with like 3 calories a serving
He got life with a possibility of parole after 25 years. That's the harshest sentence possible in Canada. The judge couldn't do anything more. The only exception is when the defendant was a serial killer
To the men and women that train and interview people like this THANK YOU. Thank you for doing this job, behaviour science, thank you for getting 'things' like this off the street. Thank you for all the people you have saved who don't even know you have saved them. ❤
Imagine having dealt with stuff like this enough to have witty comebacks ready for a child rapist and murderer. TBH I get so emotional just hearing about this stuff and these guys deal with it, talk to the mother, meet the criminal, I can't even imagine the toll it must take on your sanity.
Can you imagine how the child must have felt? The pain, the fear, the regret. She was only 8. She wanted to see a puppy. I lose faith in humanity when I learn about cases like these.
This Detective is something else. A relentless verbal onslaught, like sandpaper rubbing away at the surface - then finally the truth is becoming visible. Incredible work. Brilliant. As for the suspect - electric chair . . .not in 20 years time but immediately!!!!
Him trying to start gagging so he can be dismissed to the restroom or something. Detective: “Oh here’s a bucket. Go right ahead, I won’t be offended.” 🤣
I hope everyone knows that protecting children is a community effort. It takes more than teachers and parents considering how many vile and pure evil bastards are out there. If you see something suspicious, if you have a gut instinct, believe it- please report it.
People think it's being overprotective but if you ask any parent who has had their children abducted they'd go back in time and gladly become an overprotective parent
@@Nat0528 If theres one thing you should learn from this channel, it's that the police want justice and understand that they need to manipulate the environment and the suspect to gather information and force a confession. The police are being "friendly" because it benefits them (and society). That person interviewing that guy probably thought he was pathetic and a monster from the moment he got the case details. All he cares about is putting that guy behind bars, and if that means acting friendly and subtly manipulating him into confessing, then he will do that. if you walk into an interrogation room and treat the person like absolute garbage and you don't have the evidence to back it up, you can potentially let a monster back out on to the streets because they'll identify you as an enemy, ask for a lawyer and then shut the fuck up until he arrives. People forget cops are doing their job when they're being friendly and are less likely to lawyer up and not share their lies.
arqon_ I understand the interrogation dynamics perfectly! I think we were all simply speaking to the fact that this guy who is beyond despicable, was being babied ad nauseam! That isn’t to say we don’t understand why police officers appear friendly, or even empathetic.. it is all understood to be tactics used, to ensure that pos like that guy! Never has the chance to reoffend. My comment was based on that, not to imply that all monsters should all be roughed up had thrown around.
@@Nat0528 it's called good cop bad cop for a reason. It's a strategy. And it's also to cover their butts for liability. It's the humane way to engage with a human who committed even a heinous crime. Otherwise every day would turn into fights. But once they give you every last chance, boom.
Canadian Police: Cereal bars, gives him tea with sugar, a donut, a blanket, doesn't want to offend him by calling him Mike. American Police: Won't give Jeff his butterfinger.
@@beatsgelato9014 if you say you want to speak to a lawyer they have to let you immediately. he never said that. he already spoke to a lawyer, who likely said don't say anything.
Tori looks like such a sweetheart how is it possible that someone could want to harm such an innocent child. There can be ZERO sympathy or mercy for such monsters. In these cases I believe it can only be the family that sets the punishment. I commend the investigators and police for theyre restraint. There is no way I could hold myself back.
Omg, your comment made me laugh out loud even with the most horrific subject matter! Well done. Yours along with, "This guy could talk the hinges off of a gate"
This case has haunted me for years - for some reason that child fate - words fail me. When you read the entirety of it. The child looks like my granddaughter at that age. To this day I remind my daughter never to assume anything about her whereabouts - keep it forever in your mind. Every time I talk to her about her daughter I think of this child. May she forever be an angel for other children - watching over them. What was done to Tori - God watch over her and all like her.
I feel you on this frfr. I have 3 kids & 3 grandkids and I tried to set a pattern with daily text messages with them. So god forbid something happens I can have details that help in some way. I don’t let them know I’m doing it bc they think I over reacted.
54:33 is so fantastic to watch. The once in a lifetime roast the detective gives is legendary and the fact that he articulates his pure disgust with him is even more brutal. Fantastic.
@@hopethebabes that's complete and total bullshit. That's EXACTLY what the police will tell you too. It doesnt matter if you're innocent or guilty, if you're in a setting like this, ask for a lawyer. Period.
My eyes started watering with the news segments at the end, the reporter having to keep pausing because of the raw emotion of the whole case and trial. I watch these videos to learn about criminal behaviors in interrogations and detectives' techniques, but man sometimes it's hard watching some because of how emotional I become during certain parts As someone in the comments once said two years ago..."it's crazy how you can avoid this situation by NOT raping and murdering a child"
I was in jail with Terri lynn while she was awaiting trial. She was kept in a solitary/s*icide cell. When the guards would walk by they would kick the cell door. We used to hear her cry and all the women would start laughing and taunting her. I remember seeing her go out for her yard time carrying a basketball. We all screamed and yelled that it should be the little girl you helped kill that should be going out to play. Any one of us would have been happy to have her in the showers for 2 mins. I hope these two monsters never know any peace and burn in hell
The really fucked up thing about it is now they're moving her to a healing lodge? Why? For what? I know women doing decades for drug related charges. They have kids and people on the outside. Why do these pieces of shit always seem like they get away with it?! Make it make sense.
@@karenvaughan6423 I hope to own a classic someday! Mine have all been 2nd gen, I'd never buy 1st or 3rd (or newer) but man those Classics have my heart too!
i hope there's a special place in the afterlife where people like him get to relive the suffering they caused onto others. rest in peace and power to Tori Stafford.
T'is a sad and horrific prob two or three generation of narcissistic DID and other results from either their own parents treating their children like sh*t and poor education, watchng trash and trashy channels, groups et al :{
This kind of stuff happens every day in sweden and more than 90% of the guilty People who admitted to it they dont even get sent to prison sweden is fuckt
53:34 is the same investigator that interviewed Russel? Jim Smith? He’s great! I love seeing any cases he gets to be involved with. The way he dealt with Russel vs Michael are totally different and it’s amazing to see
David Gould this is how they manipulate the criminal to get what they want out of them when they know their luring or hiding something. Sometimes even innocent people are in this situation.
Yeah but not in a good way in my case. I just made the mistake of watching this in the morning and it has made me feel really angry and more hopeless about the human race.
It enrages me so badly when they start crying when they get caught like you didn't just torture an innocent child and listened to her cries and screams
Also when the investigator asks what he's scared of and he says he's scared that his life is over. Fucking sickening considering he ended a little girls life.
Uh, if he showed no emotion you'd say you were enraged about that instead. Let's just get to the point and say you're just an uncontrollably angry person?
Every time i revist this video, i always think that i could outlast the detectives rambling, that it wont bother me. And every time, im proved wrong. I like to think i have a high tolerance for rambling people because of my past but man, this detective is on a whole other level. Its honestly amazing that im getting mental fatigue and im not even in the hot seat
My parents were religious af and I wasn’t, so I can lie super easily almost believe it as I’m saying it but the problem with detectives is often the questions they ask they already know the answer so no matter how good you are, if it’s a lie they’ll know.
" How old are you, Mike? 28 years old? Get rid of your fucking security blanket and start being a man" The way that cop dragged this piece of shit was amazing.
@@carolyngrey2853 Speaking for all the men serving prison sentences across this beautiful country of ours.. I can assure you, These guys here.. We make sure they suffer. AND BOY DO THEY!!! There had been cases were they were literally rape to death :D
I've a friend who is a detective in the UK and from watching all these videos I've a new found respect. I wish they released videos like this in my country.
There was one comment before, but I can't find it, but it was one of the funniest ones I read in a while! "Canadian interrogation techniques: Give the prisoner a Tim Hortons tea with ONLY 1 SUGAR Give him a plain donut Give him a security blanket Make fun of him for his security blanket." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ndunks "oh my god look at these people using emojis I'm SOOO much smarter than them because I DONT use emojis!!!!" it's ok I used to think the same way....when I was like 13
Olli Rolli How can you even compare someone eating a fkn burger & a killing of a cow to a Child abuser torturing, abusing killing an innocent eight year old child. FFS
He's not wallowing in his self-pity, though I'm sure there's a lot of it. What he's doing here is acting. Pure evil. He thinks if he looks pitiful enough, it'll influence the interrogators and, later, the jury. It's not until after the interrogator tells him innocents don't act like how he's been acting that he stopped his insufferable fake sniffling and commitment to looking down.
This dude's personality pisses me off. He's has the nerve to be snarky with the detective and is acting like a little child who is being wronged when he literally ruined a little girl's life. Only worried about himself. Not the little girl, or the worried parents, just himself. Absoulutly disgusting
@@royalloyalty8248 the death penalty is useless. It’s a far worse punishment, especially for someone who hurts children or the elderly, to spend the rest of their life in prison with a general population who’ll beat their ass every day. There’s an episode of I Am A Killer on Netflix where the guy literally says death row is nicer than general population, so he killed his cell mate to get the death penalty so he could live on death row. What kind of punishment is that? And WAY too many innocent people have been executed. In a world with no discrimination and no dirty cops, maybe we could avoid that. But that’s not the world we live in. The death penalty isn’t a punishment, it’s retribution, and it’s not even satisfying retribution at that. It’s useless. Pointless.
