I love how I started this game like haha I'm gonna rob a bank and ended robbing the white house getting bain a new body via alien magic and we live off on some island
PD:TH lore: money go rise bank go boom Pd2 lore: Criminal hacker boss gets kidnapped into a ww2 prison and then put under the Whitehouse where then you kill one of your very vague dental professionals and free your hacker boss with your former pmc officer and reincarnate your hacker boss into a god and into the president of the US
i like how even this super serious and logical explanation of Payday is like "yeah dude, i've got no bloody idea what they were thinking putting Ethan and Hila in here"
@@DragonFang253D If there's no universe where these two make sense in a game like Payday 2, then you're going to have to explain how Jimmy, Jacket and Scarface (WHO DIED), even Wolf, a video game developer who went schizo and picked up a gun to pursue a life of crime which he was just randomly, remarkably good at, first. This game is the most unserious thing ever made lol, part of the fun of it. I am glad that Payday 3 is returning to the serious edge of PD:TH though.
Wow. This is exactly what I've been searching for, for YEARS. Without a doubt this will be the ultimate compendium that everyone will eventually be lead to that's even remotely interested about the games backstory. Thank you.
"Are ya winning heisters?" *The heisters after foiling a nigh immortal sociopath's attempt to rule the world from the highest elected office and then installing their cool ass hacker buddy as the reincarnated president of the USA:* "Yes...yes we are."
@@brandoncolon1160 Nah, Left 4 Dead is an alternate timeline where the crew refused that one job and Murkywater did not destroy the hospital. Obviously, since life goes on and the green flu did not spread in this one.
I have a couple theories. 1. Vlad is the scribe king, and his watcher is his brother in law, which is why he keeps calling the payday gang in to get him out of trouble. 2. With the dentist dead, Bain's reincarnation is him ascending to the now empty throne of the healer king, which he immediately begins work healing society.
I wonder who Bain's Watcher will be. Duke seems to be the best for the job but he might want nothing more than needed with this whole Watcher and King business.
@@Dragonspirit223 I'd think maybe Locke? Locke would easily be able to take over Crime net, he'd just need to be able lead the gang at that point. He has the abilities to help secure crime net, he has the knowledge and ability to get things done, he could have contacts left and could probably gain more. He'd take his place pretty much, and probably be smarter about keeping his location and such safe.
With regard to Harujdin being Vlad’s watcher I doubt, as in such a case Harujdin would be a lot more calculated and careful, and some of Vlad’s voice lines in Stealing Xmas hint towards a request at “accidentally” pushing Harujdin off the tree. I think he is more of a comic relief character than anything else.
@@twiztedmind209Locke would work and so, ironically enough, could Joy. Girl went from being a cross promotion character for Switch, to a possible Bain replacement in Payday 3. I still think Locke has a better voice
I love that the failed loot box system was included in the storyline. Given a reason for it to exist, a reason for it to fail, and a reason for why the system is the way it is now.
@@gamingjolt9621 During CrimeFest there was a new microtransaction put into the game where you could buy safes (loot boxes) for special weapon skins and blueprints, some of which gave stat boost. The community felt betrayed by the devs who said that microtransactions would never be a thing in payday 2. As a result, the lootboxes were taken out and you can now earn the weapons by just completing heists and getting really lucky or trading in the community. Kknowley put it into the lore when he mentioned Vlad's weapons that he started giving out for free around 1:34:50.
My favorite detail that I learned on rewatch is he’s directly referencing Valve seeing as the “deal in fancy weapons” and are the largest criminal organization based in Seattle”
You know you’re good at storytelling if your plot involves aliens and immortal dentists and people don’t question it until you bring up ancient masks that have the US flag on it.
Cringe: This ancient mask is based on the US Flag, this plot is dumb Based: One of the previous historic heisters must've been present during the American revolution and worked their ancient mask design into the flag
I find it funny that Bain specifically has to mention to Jacket *not* to horde the audio tape, as if to imply that Jacket's audio tapes are actually apart of a bigger horde. A dragon hordes gold, while Jacket hordes audio tapes.
Do you know how many 80’s dictaphone demo tapes you gotta comb through to find a half decent vocabulary? How else am I supposed to define banana chips while I’m robbing a bank with a hammer in my varsity jacket and chicken mask?
I find it funny how they kept trying to justify Jacket as a credible character and not the cardboard cutout he was. You literally don't even see his face in the source material lmao.
One of the things I like about Jacket in this game is that despite being a guest character he is still a very active character in PayDay 2 like being on lots of promo art and how despite being part of his own game he has become part of 2 game communities (the first time I ever heard of Hotline Miami and Jacket is because of Payday) instead of being important for a little bit and just being forgotten. It really feels like he was integrated into the story instead of forcefully being jammed in there by the devs.
"It really feels like he was integrated into the story instead of forcefully being jammed in there by the devs." yes, we are looking at you h3h3 pack. Who even are those guys?
He’s a bit quiet through the series (no pun intended) but he definitely has a place. Beats h3 groups who are used once so you can hear their speech in the first world bank heist but that’s fuckin it rlly
@@ScottishShogun "Guys, I bought them from reputable sellers, believe me!" >Dallas peels open the label on the drill. Underneath it reads a hastily translated sign, "Made in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
@@ciphergacha9100 I wouldn't play the game if it didn't have such bumpin' music. Even the misses are hits when you go long enough without hearing them thanks to random track. Match Host Music is the best idea with friends.
For anyone confused, this is a reupload. There were a couple of editing mistakes that I simply wasn't comfortable leaving up on the last one. I know most of you just enjoy it as background noise but for those who like the visuals, they should now be fixed. Oh and I still say WHOston and misspell Lawyer. For old time's sake.
It could be two seasons. First being the realist version and the second being the in game version with guys bunny hopping with m203s shooting twenty rounds before reloading.
You should do a challenge where you play payday 2 according to the lore, difficulty ramps up according to the story, starting normal with the basics, up to death sentence when Zeal team is introduced, play as the characters according to each heist group, ai filling the slots of the other characters in each heist, with corresponding guns and perk set, do each canon heist in order, would be a fun watch
90% of the community didn't care about the story cuz all we needed was queueing up Razormind and the memes , but the story is so damn hyperbolic as the game progressed and somehow its acceptable despite how damn out of control it got and honestly , I dig it. I love it when games have wacky ass lore and somehow succeed in making it consistent with each time the story progresses
it'd be hilarious if the inciting incident for Payday 3 goes something like this: Dallas: *Orders drink* Dallas' Card: *Declines* Dallas: Oh boy here I go heisting again!
In all serious notes, whatever ending Overkill decides to make canon for Payday 3, I wonder if these guys are gonna use another dart board and just do whatever it lands. (Ahem. no more RU-vidr packs, ahem)
Payday 1 lore: steal shit and make money Payday 2 lore: uncover a massive conspiracy involving secret societies, reincarnation, and other supernatural things.
*Hey Hey Hey!* It's about time the *full playlist becomes one video* it's always hard to find something to listen to in the background that's enjoyable so it's great to see that all these videos are combined into a big lore movie!
Esposito is such a fucking powerhouse of an actor, man. He is so fucking comfortable playing the villain, he absolutely loves it and he's just.... Terrifying if you really let him showcase the ability to play the villain.
@@jacobkern2060 Oh I love this! Just subvert expectations and have him just be a kind of awkward but generally good person and red herring the crap out of people.
My headcanon for the masks being what they are is that they shape themselves to be a symbol of the current protectors. When one dies and another takes it's place, the symbol changes
in that case the masks are probably alien tech, which in turn begs the question if the masks the core four wear are alien and can shapeshift too If they are alien and can shape themselves, why are there two sets of shapeshifting masks? If they match the symbols of the core four, and are meant for us, shouldn't we be wearing the masks in the coffer? If our masks we're wearing rn dont shapeshift, why is there an identitcal shapeshifting masks locked in a coffer nobody has seen for eons? Who made them? It answers some questions but creates lots more holes
OvenCake well, considering reincarnation and immortality are canon (True Ending, The Dentist.) it’s not too much of a stretch to consider the masks themselves change based on the current design through some magic sorcery.
As someone who has never played a game of payday in her life, I was invested for the whole thing. I couldn’t look away, it was just that good. You, my man, deserve a medal for your dedication.
@@roccobastone1441 nope, it's not your nostalgia. It's that damn good. I just got it on sale for 5, and spent 20 more on dlc. It brought me the originals vibes back, and the ai actually defend you here while you do work. I love you can throw bags on them.
Payday 2 gameplay: Shooting cops, loooting, escaping. Payday 2 lore: start with 4 guy and 1 observer become the greatest criminal group in the world, unlocking alien technology, reincarnate as president and stealing whole country
Your explanation to why the special guns didn't catch on in the universe was 10/10, I love that idea as the reason those micro transactions didn't catch on.
It’s basically the Payday equivalent to what happened in real life, too. Lots of people dropped the game and vocally denounced Overkill until they finally made the skins fully available to free players.
@@scarymeunster9095 which is funny, since in the grand scheme of things skins weren't as important and probably not as crazy as DLC packs costing like an entire goddamn game
the story of this game reminds me of COD Zombies. starts off with a fairly understandable basis of bank robbing, but suddenly descends into magic, and the illuminati
if you were there back before the white house when we were decrypting the coffers dude, it was like being at the launch of origins back in the day with people figuring stuff out. really missed out if you werent there.
I think my favorite part of all this is that the Dentist's failure is his own damn fault. If he hadn't engineered Hoxton's arrest, the gang wouldn't have pissed off so many powerful people, wouldn't have had to expand, and thus wouldn't have recruited the only man on the planet who could help them break the cycle. The thing that gave him the leverage he needed for his plan to be set in motion is ultimately what ruined his plan. Poetic justice at it's finest, folks.
Isn't that the same with Bain? Wasn't the only reason Bain died was because he was injected with the virus that the crew stole in No Mercy? The hafts of arrows truly are feathered by our own plumage.
@@gingerinajacket8519 I agree Bain's death is also his own fault, but I think there's a bigger cause than that: He never trusted his only real allies with the whole story, and thus when his demons came home to roost, he was left to fend for himself. If he had told the gang the whole truth from the beginning, they probably would've made sure he was a bit more protected, or at the very least been way more careful during heists.
@@mattpace1026 To be fair, there is an old adage about thieves and the honor they keep. Keeping people at arm's length is a feature, not a bug of a life of disrepute, and while HE may be seeking a nobler goal, I can think of at least 3 people on the team that the only read you can get on them is "crazed gunman". Like I don't care if Jacket saved my goddamn child, there is no way I am putting blind trust into him.
@@gingerinajacket8519 He's supposed to be a leader. The reason the whole gang trusts him is because he gets them out of tough situations. The level of loyalty they have for him is not the kind you get keeping someone at arms length. You don't send four guys to fix a mess started by god-like aliens if you're keeping them at arms length. Bain trusted them, he just wasn't as much of a leader as he should've been.
You know my favorite macro perspective on this whole franchise? They introduced TELEKINESIS, and about 3.2 seconds after that introduced a FUCKING CLONE ARMY. TO GET RID OF THE ONE GUY USING TELEKINESIS. And my favorite part of that? It is all detached, from the actual story surrounding the dentist, and his quest for immortality. They really pulled a Hamlet and introduced Pirates as a footnote, didn't they?
"hey, i made this art thief heister, can i put him in the game?" "yes, but he has to be a conspiracy nut that somehow prevents the world's end by reading old scripts in a markiplier voice"
I'm inclined to believe that the #MyHeister campaign was intended from the start to produce a character who would act as an in-universe stand-in for the community, who would solve the secret in-game the same way the community solved the ARG outside of the game.
(Spoilers) I find the fact that the dentist's downfall was that he got so used to being immortal he never considered the possibly of instantly getting fucking murked by entering in the same room with his 4 most dangerous enemies (who are all HEAVILY armed) the funniest shit ever.
One of my favorite tricks when going infamous is to run a DS Four Stores and hope for a ATM. If there isn’t one, restart until there is, or just hide in the store and let your AI handle the cops. I usually get at least 30 right of the bat.
I'm late to the party, here, but I *love* how you worked the Drill Fiasco and the Ethan & Hila backlash into the story. A strange note for anyone unfamiliar, and a fun retelling of something us vets are all too familiar with.
For the new people in the back, I'm talking about when those safes you open that have weapon skins in them. Those used to need a Drill to open. You pay for that specific drill like it was a key in CS:GO or TF2. This was a big deal because the devs had outright promised that the game would never have microtransactions, but Starbreeze, the publishers, pretty much forced it in.
They came from: Robbing a bank with absolutely no stealth skill, to cooking meth, to stealing nuclear warheads, to foiling the century old plans of what’s essentially the Payday equivalent of the Illuminati
Hardcore (named Hardcore Henry in some countries) was such a wild movie, I recommend watching it if you like unique and well made action movies (it's filmed 100% in first person), i'm still amazed that according to payday2 lore it's set in the same world as John Wick, Reservoir Dogs, Left 4 Dead and Hotline Miami. Jimmy was such a fun character in that movie and is my favourite crossover Heister.
@@DEFC0NZER0 it’s canon to the Payday universe that those other Universes all take place within it. But it’s not canon in those other universes that either Payday or the other noted universes take place within them.
@@MrDescream didn’t even know about payday before I watched hardcore Henry, hearing jimmy was a character and became a side protagonist in his own movie was a very shudder shock for me
I'm saying this right now before a watched it because i don't care how accurate you put it together: You're a fucking Legend for making this. All the work and research you had to put into this video must've been huge. Much love from Germany man, keep them dozers flying.
Kknowly: describes most Heists in the stealthy way. Me: **Guns blazing** "Its still Stealth if no-one lives to tell the tale...now wheres that diamond?"
Think a fun low key reference would be he’s walking by and he sees four people in suits wearing latex gloves and and bags strapped around them casually walking toward a bank
I can't imagine how much time and effort went in to just compiling the lore, never mind producing the script, narrating, grabbing footage, and editing. Absolutely amazing
I was really hoping the lore was just 4 idiots with brothers grimm running into bank heist with razormind and i will give you my all blasting in the back.
That's not wrong, everything past and including Alaskan Deal was done by one writer who had to scramble around and tie up the lore together. Everything before that - basically dart throwing.
Part of me hopes payday 3 will have these same supernatural, conspiracy cover up themes as payday 2 had later in the story. The events after Alaskan Deal felt like something out of an Indians Jones movie. Not that I’m complaining about that.
4:04:25 My personal theory is that the masks in the chest are actually meant to be the ones you get when you complete the secret (the ancient ones, not the "Secret Dallas/Chains/Wolf/Hoxton" masks), but for some reason, Overkill just put in weathered versions of the default masks in there, probably since the secret ending masks were likely made well after Henry's Rock was released.
I can see Medic Bag being the safe house lol. The question is, what will be everyone's motivation going back into the heist game? They all got flithy rich from the heists they did and all of them can make sure their great great great grandchildren can go on early retirement. I'm not so sure Payday 3 will include the original gang. The only thing I can see happening after the secret ending of Payday 2... They probably have more than just taking the US president's place. They should head for the UN next and pretty much comandeer the entire planet's leaders.
@@SirFooplesTheThird I mean... Payday 2 already taking part around the world-ish, but yeah I see what you mean. Definitely will give more proper heists
I like the idea that the secret ending is the canon ending of Payday 2 but that Payday 3 takes place in a universe where they failed and thus have to rebuild from scratch. Starting off as small time heisters again as they've lost their power and influence in a world controlled by their enemies.
@@nathancrank9923So Payday 3 is a continuation of the Payday 2’s bad ending. Interesting. That means the Dentist is now the president of the United States, or something like that.
"Houston's ghost role highlighted that the gangs heist were moving away from displays of physical force and brutality and added much needed gile and subtlety to get in and out quietly" And me, over here trying to figure out any way to bring in a mini gun, gorilla suit, and street sweeper shot gun while a Russian guy wants me to steal a Christmas tree for him
@@deadhelix if it isn't a drill I hope it's a saw I mean the saw 3000 is good but if that piece of shit drill fails... I'm not responsible for any crimes here in brazil
@@dragsvart Canon weapons, perk decks and skills are all character specific. You can easily link decks to characters because the number of the character from l-r t-b matches the perk deck from top-bottom. For example: John Wick is the 5th character. Hitman is the 5th perk deck. John Wick's perk deck is Hitman. Weapons you can tell by the weapons that come with character packs, for the most part. Skills are tougher, though.
@@bquad I know the first bit. and as for the second bit it wouldnt be exact but building each character based on their specialty wouldnt be too hard. also dallas would have to have the entire mastermine tree aced and so on with wolf, chains, houston, and hoxton.
I think it's amazing how the magic just slowly built up, then popped in all at once, and at no point was I taken out of it. Definitely think it particularly a result of your good storytelling, but also on the part of the writers weaving this bat-ass shit together. Also, I think the Locke fake-betrayl was actually planned from the start and not a retcon, mainly because there don't seem to be a lot of reasons in lore for his betrayal, but also because not telling the gang beforehand made sense; gotta keep the reaction legit. Not telling the gang after, though? I think we can chalk that up to a bit of bad writing. Nit every word you write is going to be good, and I got the feeling they went with 2-3rd draft on some of these.
Result of having to string together a storyline for a game specifically made around robbing shit. Not everythings going to fit perfectly. Overkill did an insane job with what they had as it is.
@@k-Gonzo with old payday gang masks in a lost arc, eldritch love-craftian monster shadows, the illuminati, and reincarnation and shit, a cloned dude with a drug addiction seems pretty par for the course.
@@TK-7193 most of that stuff was added way after the hardcore henry crossover though. like there had been implications to that type of stuff with the secret, the left 4 dead crossover with mercy hospital, and the diamond trailer, but nothing as overt as clones and telekinesis. it still really feels out of place even with how batshit the lore gets in the final act because of how unconnected that stuff is. the dentist being to some extent immortal and influencing history was built up over several years while the hardcore henry stuff really comes out of nowhere.
@@madguy228 well, how it came about isnt any of my concern. all i care about is someone that dangerous is on my side, cause even badshit insane cokeheads need their payday too.
Just a reminder for everyone that the Mercy Hospital strain is the Green Flu from Left 4 Dead. As such in the "BAIN DIES" ending, it leads directly into Left 4 Dead taking place.
No its not Valve confirmed that there is no connection between Payday and L4D, and that it's simply a heist that takes place in Mercy Hospital Also, o7, CMDR
I really love how you give meaning to every little detail or gameplay, down to why we don't know any background from vlad's mission's to pre-planning being introduced as one of the dentist's meticulous planning obsession
3:59:50 This by itself makes the plot of the game one of the best ive seen in a while. Truly the greatest heist the Payday gang ever pulled off, no money they ever achieved could buy off the mind heist of the president himself. In Payday 3 the gang are probably going to steal Mars or something because this will be whole lot harder to top out in terms of plot.
@@steafyheaster1335 Yeah, in the Payday 2 version he drops him through the ceiling, and in Payday the heist he drops him through the ceiling if Garnet doesn't pick up the phone.
an easy solution to the masks would have been to swap the stars and stripes for a more geometric striped and dotted pattern, and put the flag motif down to bane's flair. Excellent video, btw.
_"State-of-the-art automatic turret"_ Wouldn't what I would call an ancient relic from The Gravel Wars Era of The 1960s New Mexico Badlands but sure... [23:48|3:05:07]
To be fair even modern military weapons can’t be reloaded, repaired, or upgraded by wildly swinging a wrench in the vicinity while carrying some scrap metal in your back pocket.
bold of you to assume the blueprints for all of MANN CO's gear weren't completely destroyed and any mentions of any of it was redacted before they went bankrupt. they had laser weapons, jetpacks, medical tech that can heal people from near death injuries within seconds, and teleportation tech. taking everything down with them sounds like MANN CO.
now I understand why Jimmy's always knocked down or in the shitter in the safe house. It's Jimmy Prime disabling Jimmy Crackheadson to use other Jimmies.
Holy shit this is more insane than I thought it would be. I've just been playing with friends out of order on the missions. I didn't know the story was this wild
Seriously man. Went from my friend telling me to play payday2 because it’s a good asf, to me re downloading it and seeing that holy shit the lore for this game is insane.
so this is why it took so long to announce John Wick 4, he was too busy robbing banks with a cracked out man with regenerative immortality. also bain sounds like a bro he protects his team from any danger he can, even if it means he gets hurt in the process.
@@insomniagobrrr5542 im several weeks into it, and its going surprisingly well! given half my players have never played D&D and the other half never heard of Pay day. its amazing how easily they can over come a magical security system to rob a bank.. without ECMs haha
@@cam8584 not yet.(although I've changed names and stuff) It takes about a session or 2 per level. The last game mission they did was the basic gold bank heist. They managed to stealth it... just! Much to the bored of the barbarian. I'm adding some custom generic dungeon crawling as well to mix it up a little, kinda of content to create and expand a safe house. Find dwavern forge etc to craft new and better gear. Instead of just buying it from bane. Last week they found some plans in one of the bank deposit boxes to the where abouts of an ancient wizards tower which they are currently working their way through, with the goal to find "blue prints" for some new gear
I had to listen to this over multiple days due to, well, my own inability to sit still. But this was amazing, and even though I already knew how the story ended, the way you told it kept me on the edge of my seat the entire time.
Dude if somebody can make a 4+ hour long video about your games lore and story and it be extremely interesting the entire way through then you know you've made a masterpiece.
Blows my mind how they’re able to combine so many pieces of media into the games history, They got John Wick, Jacket from hotline Miami, and even jimmy from Hardcore Henry. Masterpiece of story writing
So, watching this I just got a funny thought and wondered: Given that radiation was needed for the temples, Murkywater being a subsidiary of the Kataru, and that we now know that Vlad was the scribe, could there have been a bigger picture of Meltdown? After all, the heist happened in the rear-end of the jobs for the dentist, so perhaps he wanted to slow down the momentum of the reincarnation?
@@udrubudrub honestly i cant really imagine vlad as one of these kings either. The dentist and the elefant seem pretty misterious to me but vlad is just a russian owning nightclubs to me
Wow this lore is something else. I joined the game through Russian Badger, as I'm assuming a new wave of us have but I'd failed to realize how deep the lore goes.
I have a question: are the crossover heists supposed to be canon? The TF2 turret feels out of place in a game where the weapons are fairly realistic. Something else that I remember being a point of contention was the Left 4 Dead heist as both Bill and the Green Flu virus are present even though there's no zombie outbreak. Lastly, why are you so good at narrating a story? It's rare for me to be genuinely compelled to watch such a long video. Great job man, seriously.
I actually looked this up last night when I started this vid. The No Mercy heist was confirmed non canon in an article interviewing someone at valve. Although I can’t remember the source. Idk about the tf2 one though.
@@rudiebulb757 wasn't that statement made about the original Payday: The Heist collaboration and its ties to Left 4 Dead? Edit: yep. "Although initially considered non-canon, Day 6 of Breaking News 2018 retcons the heist into being canon. The remake of the No Mercy heist in Payday 2 is explicitly said to be a flashback, being the exact same heist as the one in the first game." "The heist also seems to lack any elements of infected from the original, although Bill from Left 4 Dead still makes a cameo and the patient is shown to be slowly mutating. In addition, OVERKILL implemented a method to allow for the No Mercy heist to be lore-friendly: Regardless of how the crew escapes, whether it be by the roof or escape by ambulance, Mercy Hospital will be destroyed. This is also one of the reasons as for why the heist was made from being a nightmare, into a real heist that took place canonically in the PAYDAY universe."
Also about your original question: "At the beginning of the Heist, Bill from Left 4 Dead may come into the elevator and interrupt the briefing. This is a reference to The Sacrifice comic where Bill went to the hospital to get a checkup before the infection started." "The heist ending happens at the same time as the first outbreak of the Infected in the Mercy hospital, which is two days after the first infection."
those are crossovers, but they're not canon to the universe they're crossing over with tf2 could potentially be in the payday 2 universe, but left 4 dead isn't in the payday 2 universe. instead, the green flu just became a deadly virus that killed people but gave them immense strength, sort of like a drug
now imagine how different the timeline would be if houston never joined the gang and so, as the gang stayed at 3, they disbanded early and the world soon ended, while there were attempts to bring them together, they just couldn't do it without the pink and white mask hoxton died in his cell, thinking everyday the gang would get him out of there, but they never came. even in the apocalypse, he could never truly leave his cell, mostly because they were titanium walls and bars
The fact that the lore and story of payday condensed and broken results into 4 hour video is a testament to you as a RU-vidr, the developers of the game and to me who was literally just scrolling through my recommendations...
Start: *haha funny heist game with skill points* End: *stop an evil king-deity from reincarnating on behalf of ancient giant shadow alien gods by completing a 4-part heist to steal biblical artifacts consisting of several dozen heisters-turned-heros who are destined to become legend over several thousand years.* What. The. Fuck.
You know a franchise has a crazy level of popularity when they get to have crossovers with scarface, hotline Miami, John Wick AND hardcore Henry, this is straight up awesome 🤣
Hey chief, big question. How did Hoxton make a professional level mask in prison? I remember somewhere, i think in Jimmy's mask profile, stating that Gage put his maks together based on his cocaine filled lifestyle and in other notes/files it says Bain puts the crews masks together. Regardless, neither Bain or Gage could have given him the mask until the minute of the breakout. I understand it's supposed to be cool and it is, but it has always puzzled me since I was 15 and the Hoxton Breakout trailer came out.
Haha, great question. Unfortunately it's not something we really get an answer to. There's a couple of possibilities though. 1. The mask was made by a contact of Hoxton's outside of prison and smuggled in via his Lawyer, a guy we do actually hear from in the Christmas album. 2. Hox had it made inside of prison. We know he got on well with some inmates thanks to his breakout dialogue. Other signs such as the chemical burns show that he was a prominent member of the prison society in his year or so in there. I wouldn't be surprised if he had the resources in prison to get that mask set up. The only other character involved in his breakout was the Dentist. Maybe he could have set things up?
So, we have a party of 4 who work together going up against larger and larger foes, while growing their party to fill different niches and customization options. It starts very humble, but eventually ends in a matter of fighting against the gods themselves via a long, convoluted and historically inspired story, and we have a major betrayal from a character who presented themself as an ally only to become the main antagonist... Payday is a JRPG
