I support that rant with all my heart. All my cars so far (mainly people carriers, two Renault Scenics and a Dacia Lodgy) were bought with the unique purpose of being able to transport one or several bikes inside of them, as long as their riders. Same goes for skis and ski gear. I've never bought a bike rack and have always laughed at SUV or people carrier owners using bike racks, even more so in an empty car. And mockery aside, a bike worth several thousand euros placed on an aluminium bike rack will dissapear FAST if left unattended. I know of several stories of people taking a break on the highway near a service station to come back and see their bike racks cut and their bikes gone. Those flimsy aluminium bars can be cut in no time with a regular metal hand saw. Breaking into a car is far more difficult, even more so if you park it in such a way that the boot is unaccessible. Also heard of stories of people having their bikes stolen during the night in campings as they've left them on the bike racks while they were sleeping outside.
"I hate to break it to you, but if you got kids your FTP is gone as far south as it ever will, just leave the bike at home" Jesus christ that was brutal AF haha
: Anyone seen the GCN video where they try to tell you that weight doen't matter when you cycle uphill eventhough the figures in the video show the opposite :D - Their conclusion -> just push more power. GCN really is the best tool in cycling ;)
Yes they are covered by the fat tyre is faster and more comfortable so no one will know. Slow bikes with big tyres and great brakes, shame about the stiff frame design, stiff draggy wheels all hidden from view. I dread ever having an accident on my synapse as it’s now irreplaceable.
Unless you ride in the rain daily they are cool I guess but you probably don't want a race bike for that and often for street riding I find it's way too much stopping power to the point of car drivers not being ready for how quick the bike can decelerate
I should say that roof bike rack has a major cool factor. It's the best way to observe a 10k barista bike explode on the highway because it wasn't install properly.
Great video! In my opinion, I think it’s perfectly fine to agree in a cool wall discussion. You can just add to each other’s arguments. That way no one has to debate for the sake of debating, and we get some quick fire commentary about more bike related stuff. It’d be pretty cool to hear your uncensored thoughts on whether if specific things in the bike industry are cool or not this way (from tubeless tyres, latex inner tube, to bike brands, world tour teams and riders, or even specific bikes)
This was the first time doing this and with 0 rehearsal, I think the balance between playing devil's advocate and just slaughtering something will get better in episode 2.
Couldn't leave the roof rack comment alone... I have a roof rack, and yes on a Volvo V50 estate, there is ample space inside the car for the bike, and yes the bike is probably worth more than the car these days. I have terrible trouble with saddle comfort and numbness when on the rollers or trainer, yet I'm not impotent and have kids... Just for info about FTP, mine isn't too bad for a rank amateur (300+W depending on the time of year). Anyway, to the point... Yeah i have kids blah blah... Child seats are terribly fiddly to put in and take out of the vehicle, and they take up a lot of space. For that reason I just try to leave them there. There isn't so much room in the boot for a bike unless it is completely disassembled... who's got time for that? Therefore, I put it on the roof :) ... The roof rack is mainly for if I'm out on a ride and suffer a mechanical, my wife can come get me :)... Or if we travel to a lake for the day (Live in Finland, plenty to choose from), I can do a ride and meet my wife and kids there already, then hoist the bike on the car for the journey home only. Additionally, the roof bars themselves have been very handy, especially when picking up furniture which doesn't fit inside the car... whack it on the roof :) ... After the roof bars, a Thule bike rack itself is like 60euros, so it's not even expensive to look seriously uncool. But I get it, it's uncool, since becoming a dad, any mg of cool which I once had has swiftly fucked off out the window, and I can happily suffer driving about with my bike on the roof and looking a knob :). Love the content btw.
That was fantastic. A good combination for the three of you. Joe swears way more than I imagined. Hambini was quite restrained and PT is just plain sarcastic. When do we get round 2?
Haha, I used to be a teacher. On my channel I default to my "teacher voice" which is also very kid-friendly. This was a casual chat between mates so a bit more colourful. Hambini was very restrained... we think it was the 4am start.
I once fell over backwards trying to use my toothpick arms to put my 40lb DH bike on the roof rack on top of my SUV. After that I bought a hitch-mount rack
I almost went hyperthermic on a descent in basque country, couldn't feel my lips hands or feet. Was genuinely panicking. Will never forget that ride, a farmer took me in and gave me hot soup.
I have a SEAT Ibiza and have managed putting the whole bike on the boot, back seats up. If luggage space is needed, I just put one seat down, the two persons in the back can squeeze in
Disc brakes on road bikes are seriously cool. Never have to worry about replacing a rim. And if I have a pebble in my disc brake pad. It doesn't bother me as much as rim brake. A new disc for me is like $10. A new rim will only happen once the rim snaps in 2
I'm with PT I don't put my bike on the roof or on the back when i can put my bike in the back. Roof racks are great for carrying planks of wood. I like Joe's anology slow car going fast as long as nobody's watching😉. I agree that zwift has taken a percentage riders off the roads but people are still getting a level of fun and fitness on home trainers. I use it but it can't compare to proper bicycle rides.
By the time they wear out, the road disc would have had maybe 4-5 sets of disc rotors and maybe 8-10 sets of pads (more expensive than rim brake pads) Probably enough to buy new rims anyway. 🤐🤐
@@ChinaCycling I'd disagree, I have deore hydraulic disc brakes on my flat bar road bike. so everything is cheaper when replacing. I ride my road bike like I would my mountain bikes, I thrash my brakes. My rotors? $10 each. Brake pads? $15 a pair. a rebleed? $10 , and with amount of oil you get, you can get you at least 4 more rebleeds and I only have to rebleed it every year. Carbon brake pads are stupidly expensive for what they are. A set of semi-metallic brake pads lasts me at least 5 months doing food delivery, while a carbon brake pad hardly lasts over 2. I also weigh 90 kilos so theres that. The longest a pair of carbon rim brake wheel has lasted me was 3 years, almost a thousand bucks down. Unless I relace the rims, then I would be looking at $250 just for *one* rim and a lacing service costing $50 In three years I would have spent $264($318 if I ways replace both pads) maintaining my disc brakes while I'd have to fork out $500 just for a set of carbon rims. thats Not even accounting for the cost of the carbon brake pads or cables... I can tolerate alloy rim brakes, but I absolutely detest carbon rim brakes. But to each their own I guess.
No offense intended, but I actually would prefer to see you three chat about all things cycling by focusing more on your talents and insights as engineers and marketing specialists. Your humor is better when it arises organically from the spores of scientific inquiry. This seemed a bit forced. I know. I know. Call me crazy.
had a feeling that when you put some poms in a room, wotever the subj, you’re going to need a copy of roger’s profanisaurus to make sense of wots said.
My bikes are worth much more than my Renault Laguna 08 2.0 16v 112hp dream machine. Bikes for pleasure, car for moving me out of the city to ride in more pleasurable places. Misses also ride so handy to take hers aswell. I could fit them all inside the car though
