The DARKEST Scene in The Wire... 

The darkest scene to me is watching Dukie's descent into drug addiction. It just hits because you know it's a common real life occurrence that's happening everyday.

the coldest line was from Slim Charles. Andre: "You said you'd get me out of here." Slim: "Manner of speaking, that be true."

The off screen death of the security guard was tough and very dark for me. Dude was not in the game and died for just doing his job.

I found Butchies torture and murder to be the most bleak scene in the show. We’ve seen him be nothing but a good friend to one of our most beloved characters and suffers the worst death in the show because of it. For me it’s the only scene that borders on being hard to watch.

There were definitely a lot of dark moments. I always thought Lil Kevin getting into the back of the SUV was scary.

Wheres Wallace String?

Should have handed the store over to Marlo the second he got robbed. Failing that he should have just skipped when Marlo asked him to incriminate Omar instead of flip flopping. Selling out to Prop Joe was his third and final mistake. It's not like Omar would have looked kindly on Joe funding his exit. Everybody played him and he couldn't see it.

Hungry Man being handed over to Cheese has to at least be in contention.

When Partlow beat Michael's step-dad to death, I found that pretty dark and disturbing. Dude may have deserved it but damn, Partlow destroyed him.

Many cold blooded and chilling scenes in the wire. When Bodie and Poot kill Wallace, for a minute there I thought maybe just maybe they might let him live. The killing of the many civilians: the project and store guards, the delivery woman. It's what sets The Wire apart form other crime drama series in that we are made to feel every one of them, unlike another famous series where we always just shrug off the murder of innocents: a pregnant woman is killed, she was a hoowah, so what?

Being from Baltimore the idea of running to another side of town to escape is actually realistic. Plenty of people in the city are only really familiar with their side of town and to them going to another side of town or Baltimore county is like moving to Ohio. This is all despite the fact that you can easily traverse the city in about an hour and can get to the county in about 15 to 20 minutes

You missed one other element of how COLD Prop Joe was in this whole subterfuge. When Andre comes pleading to Prop Joe's repair shop front, Joe basically TELLS Andre he's going to sell him to Marlo, with the "analogy" of just throwing away a useless item, and getting another disposal good. It goes right over Andre's head, and Joe seems to enjoy playing with his food. Now THAT sh*t was COLD, yo.

Once his life was upended, it almost seemed like he was ready to die. But yeah, that scene haunted me. Chris's demeanor very much reminded me of a friend of mine. Though, my friend is far from a killer. It was like he was telling a nervous friend that this was an ok place to smoke a joint or pee on a tree. "Here is good"

The torture & murder of Butchie is Cold as Fuck, hard to watch

A lotta people that didn't come up in the streets don't realize how realistic this scene is. The sad reality is life is cheap and the us vs them mentality is strong in the streets so it's possible to be cold asl about it all in order to survive. It's pretty well documented that people will adopt antisocial personality traits as a coping mechanism to survive in their environment. Some sociopaths are born, others are made. I had to relearn my humanity in a lotta ways after I got outta the streets and put some distance between it all. If ya felt everything ya had to do to scrape by it'd be too much so shutting it out and/or compartmentalization is key to mental stability. Killers are just doing their job more or less and that's exactly how it's handled, half the time people don't even care about the one pulling the trigger and want the one who gave word or set it up. Arguing with Chris and Snoop about dying was pointless, they were just cogs in the machine and didn't make any decisions. Ya look like a clown arguing anything but specs. And Andre never expected to live as long as he did, trust me. When I was 14 seeing 16 wasn't a given, by 16 seeing 18 actually looked unlikely, by 18 21 was something I was pretty sure I wouldn't see, at 21 I was almost positive I'd never see 25 and if I did it would only be cause I caught a serious case, by 25 it's felt like "any day now" for a long time - every day since has basically felt like bonus time. Ya also just pick up how to handle that kinda situation. Ya maybe heard about somebody that had it coming and stood tall so they respected em even in death, or the guy who peed himself and begged til the last second that still gets mocked, it's a lotta ways ya pick it up. But he was waiting to die so freaking out about the fact was pointless, the details on the flip side had some give potentially. But yeah, even years later it's hard to shake a lotta this stuff and ways of thinking. That environment makes you, not the other way around. Getting out is a process that unfortunately most people don't get to try their hand at. I'm finally to the point where some of it seems wild to me, but I still say stuff to people like it's normal while they're freaking out over it cause for them it most definitely ain't normal.

I didn’t like the whole storyline of Old Face Andre, because it came across to me to be more about bullying as opposed to it just simply being a part of the game and I despise bullies. I think the writers as well illustrated this by adding in the whole ring scene, which I think was their way of establishing a dynamic (between bully and victim) amongst those two characters. I don’t think Old face Andre was “stupid” as you often described him to be in your video, more so he was just a guy in a terrible situation who didn’t have many options, which is the case a lot of times in inner city communities. Him hiding out in East Baltimore isn’t so much of a terrible idea considering that Marlo is from West Baltimore and through out the show those two turf’s were independent of each other with their own leadership set in place and knowing that Marlo doesn’t control that side of town maybe it could’ve been a safe haven for him if he managed to keep a low profile. The only wrench that was thrown into that plan was the fact that Prop Joe was trying to recruit Marlo into his co-opt at the time and that prompted him to turn over Andre to Marlo. Overall it was a very dark scene, with Andre’s child like voice making it seem even more draconian and nefarious in my eyes.

Even the dock workers kept their mouth shut when they got grand jurried. Andre talked like a gossip queen lol

Ain't nothing dark about that scene. Dude was in the game, it happens. The security guard was much darker. That man didn't deserve what they did to him

Old Face Andre just took L after L after L -gets robbed by Omar -gets his ring taken by Marlo and his Delta Airlines comparison mocked (Chris actually said Andre had a point) -gets ordered to tell the cops that Omar robbed him, but I’m sure they didn’t tell him that he would have to get pistol whipped and watch an innocent woman get killed -gets his bullshit story taken apart with ease by Bunk, who also kind of mocks him -gets subpoenaed by Bunk -gets intimidated at the courthouse about how much time he will do for perjury -Gets $2,000 from Joe for his store and a “ride out of town” -The “ride out of town” is a ride to Snoop and Chris -Gets murdered and left alone with the rats

Slipped up thinking he could trust anyone. If I was to be in that situation I would of slipped out on a bus in the dead of night and head south or south west

Dude could have gotten a Motel in Westminister or Hagerstown Md.

Darkest scene is when Wallace closest 2 friends kill him on some just in case shit

I wish we knew how Marlo and Chris connected! Like are they so loyal and respectful to each other?!

This kinda reminds me of Davey from the Soprano's. Hes a likable enough guy who gets wrapped up in the game in the worst way, deliberately almost, and loses everything to people who are only looking to clean him out no matter what.

All Andre had to do was take some money and go to DC

At the time I watched it I thought it was meant to be an illustration of just how pointless "being in the game" was for most. Arrangements, deals, "traditions," vague expectations, all mean nothing. He hasn't even really a pawn, he was a bystander ti be milked and used.

Show with some of the best writing ever.

The killing of Wallace was the darkest scene.

Best option was getting out of town. Screw not knowing anyone. The sweetest part is how Prop Joe told him in a parable that he was giving him up and Andre didn’t catch it. Watch out for these old folks.

“Buy it for a dollar, sell it for tuuu” 😂😂

Darkest scene was when Chris and Snoop had the guy with dreadlocks on his knees at gunpoint and he vomited before being shot in the head. Then Snoop jokingly asks if he’d like some Chinese food afterwards lol

I don't think the blanket of "being in the game" can be casted on everyone touched by it. Many end up in it through deception, intimidation and so on. This might have been a long line of him "repaying a favor" that's principle is always tantalizing. Most aren't "in the game" even if they're groomed to believe they are, or are in course to be a kingpin.

This is why I didn’t feel bad for Joe getting popped. What he did to Andre was so foul.

I was sad for Prop Joe, until realizing this situation. Prop Joe got what he deserved.

"I thought you was my escort out?" "In a manner of speaking, that be true." So, so cold

Butchie being tortured and murdered was pretty rough

5:39 I was NOT ready for your Snoop impression! 😂😂😂😂 Another great video about the greatest show of all time!

Man I love these! I ain't gonna comment cause everyone hated me for saying that DeAngelo was the opposite of slim which I think is pretty damn rational considering position, closeness and big time the decisions that they made but this was good. Season 4 when they find the first New York guy and Chris smiles and laughs then snoop goes on snoop mode but Chris just ends it like that. GANGSTER AS IT GETS. Jiggle it wiggle it yo

The Game, is the Game...- Marlo......No doubt! - Avon Barksdale

Then Omar caused Andre's death by stealing Marlo's paackage...💯💯💯

The scene was truly realistic because when I hear killers in interviews they talk about it like it’s normal. Alpo Martinez once said “We dragged his body to a nice cool spot. Trees and bushes it was cool. But I guess an electrician was doing work in the area the next day and they found him..🤦‍♂️”

He didn’t need $2000 to get his ass on a Greyhound and go to the other side of the country. If self-preservation isn’t an instinct you possess, this is how you end up.

Great video

I agree with you. I think this was a very dark scene. It makes me think that Andre doesn't have the capacity to understand what's happening to him. Which makes everything so much worse.

when i read the title, this was the exact scene that came to mind

Old face Andre had the most realistic nickname

Oi govna! I really enjoy your content and I'm always waiting for you to upload! Any chance you would like to do a video on the HBO Gotti film from 1996? Many of the actors from The Sopranos are in the movie and i think you would like it alot. All the best bro.

*Even the scene of Chris scaring his wife was real and dark*

Andre: Here?? Chris: Here's good.... 🥶

I’ll never accept that Andre didn’t arm himself when he knew his life was in danger. When he saw Chris, the first person he should have shot at was Chris and then Slim. Andre might ultimately die, but someone should have gone with him.

Agreed: Prop Joe's and Slim's delivery of Andre to Marlo's crowd is a low point, even though I have a low opinion of Andre. While Joe and Slim are two of my favorite characters in this show, my view of them took a dive when they placated Marlo by giving Andre up to him (I know they had their strategic reasons for doing so, but they didn't have to).

5:29 a real gunman would know you don’t move the slide back into place after racking it, you let it go. Takes me out of a story any time I see it.

agree great explanation it is by far the darkest scene in the series. another mention is the schoolboy who gets killed by a stray bullet in his home, and Tasha getting killed by friendly fire Dante who had bad aim.

The parallels between Andre and Randy in Season 4 was something that I didn't catch my first time watching the show

Love the analysis. I hope this guy does one for the show “SnowFall.”

This is why idk how people look at Prop Joe as some upstanding innocent man who didn’t deserve to be back ended by his own nephew when he did this to Andre just to get on Marlo’s good side whereas Cheese actually had a reason to want Prop Joe dead uncle or not smh

Wallace getting smoked by his own homeboys and Dukies situation from beginning to end was F’ing heartbreaking. Too many youngsters going through that BS

The look marlo gets on his face after he kills prop joe is so chilling, like he is savoring the moment. Him and his crew enjoyed the violence, while everyone else only used it for enforcement.

This was a really good analogy

When Marlo shot the witness and put another one in her mouth was quite disturbing

That was an unsettling scene (Killing of Oldface Andre). Why Joe's killing was justified? I also hated Marlo and his crew. They were bloodthirsty.

Don't forget Bunk shot a mouse trespassing in his wife's closet. Left him there as a warning for the others too 😂

Never even thought that deep about it.

Season two episode 9 opening. "Drama's over boy. You better get your bags and get yourself to school."

What brand of polo old face wearing? the white and tan one......thx

Nothing tops the murder in the vacant. "Chris please" "I got you. Quick and clean. I promise"

"Not in the vacant.... they gon be looking for me!" "Ain't nobody gon be looking for you..." shit killed me man

Old face Andre was the poster Child for Just Say No. Don't get in the game unless youre ready to play. The little money he could make from it was tempting and he let it tempt him without knowing what he was dealing with and what he was getting into.

You're totally right. I hated whenever this evil trio were on screen..... the nail guns and everything else. Their vapid, unfeeling manners. Mortifying.

If youre wondering why people just resign themselves to death with a Chris and Snoop, David Simon explains that they had a scene where they said “it’s either you come with us and resign yourself to your death, or we kill your entire family and all your friends. You choose to play the game”. I wish they would have kept it in, it explains why so few people fought back.

Chris killing the potato chip lady to frame Omar was the worst scene in The Wire history 🤦🤦

No scene is darker than that lady getting killed by Chris in Andre’s store.

Agree one of the most chilling scenes of this show

Man Prop Joe got that old man vibe, when he makes the analogy to the toaster, a smarter person wouldve saw the intent in the riddle

When you’re doing monstrous things it’s more chilling to do it calm and with a smile. Look at historical photos of evil people doing everyday things. You forget that they are or were regular people. Andre’s biggest blunder is thinking in that life you can trust those around him. Might be with a crew but you’re on your own.

1:30 in, Levy didnt advise Stringer and Avon, he advised Marlo.

About as dark and non chalant as one nod from Marlo, and kevin is whistle away to meet his death. Him using body language to plead with Marlo for mercy, is hard to forget. When monk walked behind him and said 'get going', he knew his time was up. Why didn't he fight? At least go down swinging.

Old Face Andre, was "slow" more than dumb imo. He aware of what's going on, but very slow to catching on. The more I watched these analysis, it becoming clear to me, that Stansfield Organization wasn't that smart. Chris might have been smarter than Marlo, but was scared of Marlo cause he knew Marlo wouldn't hesitate to kill women and kids. Marlo should have known that plan wouldn't have worked. Omar a legend in the streets, so they should known old schools follow codes. Old Face Andre was "slow" cause he believe every single word, everyone said. Butchie death to me, was the darkest to me. Even though Butchie was in the game, the man was blind. Another mistake Marlo made, was not killing Randy. Stringer would have killed Randy, have Little Kevin do it and then have Little Kevin killed. I guess Marlo wasn't that cold. A new subscriber here.

Fucking Andre?! I thought this was gonna be about Wallace. Man, that scene just sticks with me. A system that forces 2 young men to kill their childhood friend is terrifying.

can someone explain the intro? Sounds like a clip from the sopranos but i could be wrong

if Andre found a way to chill for another 2 days they would have remembered how to forget

I knew you would love this show

He wasn't built for that life, he was a wannabe, with the heart of a marshmallow

One of the darkest scene was that poor lady doing her job at Andre’s store

For me the death of Bubble’s friend Sherrod. Bubbles isn’t pure but he is a good guy who gets wrapped up in his pride and for that instead of the neighborhood bully getting killed, his dear friend does.

Snoops get over here line in that is one of the most chilling lines in the whole series. Fucking scary

Sherods death scene or Dukies last few scenes have entered the chat

Nahhh darkest moment was when Duke was dropped off at the opium den and he looked back for Mike and Mike was gone forever

For me the only time I cry watching TV is when dokie descent into drugs. Then I was bidding for him all time is was so sad

Hubris is always deadly. Andre carried it like he was too cool for school with nothing to back it up.

good choice... the beauty of The Wire is that there are dozens of moments that you can cite with equal validity... i think you are right about the desensitization... cold. as a scene, I can' think of a better one but Randy's arc is the grimmest - the best example of how nurture can over-ride nature... particularly if the person in question is intelligent. It's something that is not mentioned often but i think one of the great things about the Wire is it shows that kids growing up in that environment, regardless of parenting, if they have some brains and independent thought will usually conclude that The Game is best played from the criminal side.

Being stupid doesn't necessarily make you a tragic victim.

Lil Kevin getting deemed guilty is the darkest scene

I love your outlook on this.. I am actually glad he took his L like this

lol....even Tessio asked for a 2nd chance.."for old times sake"

5:38 oh nahhh😂caught me off guard fr

Prop Joe had it coming

I thought it was gonna be Chris beating Michael's step dad to death.

The Zombie Master when he call they gotta come.

@5:27 just want to point out that chris had no rounds in the firearm. You can see the rmpty mag.