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THE DARKNESS THAT COMES BEFORE by R. Scott Bakker - No Spoiler Review (Prince of Nothing Book 1) 

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THE DARKNESS THAT COMES BEFORE by R. Scott Bakker - No Spoiler Review (Prince of Nothing Book 1)
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The Darkness That Comes Before by R. Scott Bakker is the first entry in the Prince of Nothing trilogy and the first entry in Bakker's series called the Second Apocalypse. The Darkness That Comes Before is R. Scott's Bakker's beginning in taking a strong hold within the grim dark sub genre of fantasy and for good reason. Prince of Nothing has been highly recommended to me and I am very happy I've read it. The Darkness That Comes Before is beautifully written and full of both life and death. I hope you enjoy this spoiler free review.
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@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Do you enjoy grimdark?
@mrsduncanthetall
@mrsduncanthetall 2 года назад
Yessss!!!! Dont tell the PTA though😅
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@mrsduncanthetall hahah
@milom5030
@milom5030 2 года назад
Sure😎
@BookishChas
@BookishChas 2 года назад
Yes indeed!
@BookishChas
@BookishChas 2 года назад
@@mrsduncanthetall Yeah those parents might freak out lol.
@nightmarishcompositions4536
@nightmarishcompositions4536 10 месяцев назад
Imo, this is one of the only fantasy series where the prose was just as gripping as the story, rather than being flowery for the sake of flowery. Every sentence was packed with meaning and contemplation, creating a haunting atmosphere of dread and anticipation with complex characters to guide the twisty narrative. It felt like a masterfully crafted psychological horror thriller set in a gritty fascinating world. Absolutely love it and wish it would get more attention. I feel the same way about the Manifest Delusions series by Michael Fletcher.
@samuraijim9243
@samuraijim9243 2 года назад
Bakker's work deconstructs great works like LOTR and Dune but at the same time creates something that stands unique within the genre.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Agree
@andrewhanson405
@andrewhanson405 2 года назад
The Second Apocalypse is my favorite fantasy series of all time! For me Bakker's prose continues to improve as he matures as a writer that by The Unholy Consult he seems light years ahead of everyone else in the fantasy genre. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it as the series progresses. Hopefully you continue to enjoy it. The last three books of Aspect-Emperor are some of the darkest headiest stuff I ever read.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'm excited to delve deep into the darkness 👀
@shadowtemple7426
@shadowtemple7426 2 года назад
I just finished the first book and I love it soooooo much.... already 150 pages into the next book
@ryan_d.v
@ryan_d.v 2 года назад
I'm on The Judging Eye right now, I CANNOT GET ENOUGH OF BAKKER! His prose is so beautiful
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Agreed!
@Red21Viper
@Red21Viper 2 года назад
I am rereading the Judging Eye these days and I think he raises even more his level in these Aspect Emperor books. The writing and the atmosphere is so beautifully bleak and melancholic and ominous.
@sirjezzumz
@sirjezzumz 2 года назад
standard bakker stan checking in. We do our daily browse through the reviews section to see if anyone else has stumbled upon something they dont realise how much they will like!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Glad you're here 😁
@HistoritorJimaldus
@HistoritorJimaldus 2 года назад
The battle of Kiyuth is where this book grabbed me to the point where I could do nothing else but read until I finished it :)
@gundersonles
@gundersonles 2 года назад
The Absolute best work of fiction I have ever read is The Second Apocalypse. Looking forward to your review all the way through!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Thanks for checking it out!
@chaz9808
@chaz9808 2 года назад
Damn the dialogue in this book is so well written
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It truly is
@angelamccollister
@angelamccollister 2 года назад
That recap is something that more classic fantasy did in the 80s and 90s but it fell out of fashion in recent years. I wish it would come back.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I agree!!
@HistoritorJimaldus
@HistoritorJimaldus 2 года назад
‘One cannot raise walls against that which has been forgotten’ :)
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Yesssss
@Red21Viper
@Red21Viper 2 года назад
I found this because Bakker is my favourite author and you have a new subscriber. You did an excellent work on grasping everything that makes this book and Bakker distinct. I hope you will continue enjoying this, one of a kind, author. In my opinion he treads paths no one dared to in the history of the genre. Really thought provoking and unconventional staff. The second series, Aspect Emperor, was even better for me.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Wow thanks! I know he has a very loyal and dedicated fan base, I'm happy to finally dive in!
@mitchthegreat
@mitchthegreat 2 года назад
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@slowlyred2082
@slowlyred2082 2 года назад
Alright 👍 Let's go!!!!!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Hell yeah! I mentioned you at the end as the king of grim dark booktube haha 🤘
@narsil5024
@narsil5024 2 года назад
TSA is really awesome I got into it because of red 🤟
@slowlyred2082
@slowlyred2082 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork very generous of you 🙏. I'm so excited for you to continue this journey. It changed the game for me. I feel like I'm chasing that experience now
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@slowlyred2082 I get that feeling from book one, it's such a solid foundation!
@thatsci-firogue
@thatsci-firogue 2 года назад
@@slowlyred2082 you're the reason I'm reading this series. 🤘
@neilthompson5740
@neilthompson5740 2 года назад
My favourite series of books. I will keep an eye out for your reviews on the next 6 books
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Awesome!
@burnout02urza
@burnout02urza Год назад
I always like the treatment of magic in this series. Mostly because of the cost: Eternal damnation. Like, when you put it against that, is magic really WORTH it? Not to mention that Chorae let you kill sorcerers instantly, and only non-magic users can wield them.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
Yeah it’s so dope
@drawyrral
@drawyrral 2 года назад
I can hardly wait for your take on the whole series. Kellus is one of my favorite fantasy characters.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
every time he is on page i am enthralled
@kifonis
@kifonis 2 года назад
i think this is the most underrated (or underhyped) series on booktube so i'm glad to hear you talk about it, and i do think it's the most comparable to malazan in a lot of ways. hope you enjoy the rest of it. but those names tho :o :/ mindfck
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I think I'd agree!
@qaztim11
@qaztim11 2 года назад
I wouldn't say its underrated, it's just for this specific series you need to have a certain amount of literary "baggage" in order to enjoy it. Having a bit of religious knowledge in combination with knowing some philosophy and psychology will make this series a lot more enjoyable. The books are also very slow at times, you could even call it the "Slog of slogs" and while it does work for the series, seeing all of the minutia of the Holy War and the Great Ordeal in the future really make you feel like you are on the same journey as the characters. It's also fair to say that a lot of the cast in this series will be unlikable for a lot of people, and the Esmenet going to the Holy War chapters might turn off a lot of readers with more sensitive dispositions, Bakker does not shy away from the sexual and abusive imagery, and while those scenes are extremely important to setting up the world, Consult and how the characters view women, which will be subverted and expanded upon in the other books, I love the trajectory of Esmenet and she evolves along the series, but it is not an experience that will be palatable to everyone.
@jasonep2
@jasonep2 2 года назад
I discovered The Darkness That Comes Before during a visit to the library in 2004/2005. I saw it on the Recently Arrived shelf and read blurbs on the cover and it seemed intriguing, so I thought I'd give it a shot. He captured my attention right out of the gate with that wonderful opening sentence: "One cannot raise walls against what has been forgotten." (I'm a sucker for a great first sentence.) I was hooked after Kellhus's encounter with the Nonman in the prologue. The depth of world building, Bakker's excellent prose and the themes raised throughout the series are some of the reasons why his books have become some of my favorites. It fills me with joy to see videos like yours and Slowly Reds.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I truly think it's one of the best lore/backstory for any series ever
@marzio7600
@marzio7600 2 года назад
Be warned!! After reading Bakker all other novels will feel like you're reading the back of a cereal box. Yes it's that good.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
😂
@lorn6294
@lorn6294 2 года назад
Facts.
@eduardobenassi3072
@eduardobenassi3072 2 года назад
Damn dude 🤣 I just ordered the trilogy.
@cloud6182
@cloud6182 2 года назад
Yes sir!
@sandz000
@sandz000 Год назад
so read gene wolfe then, i think he is the best follow up
@CircesBooked
@CircesBooked 2 года назад
This sounds like my kind of book. I love the complexity that you described in this book. Im going to check this one out for sure.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
If you're into dense, complex fantasy then this one is for you. As long as you don't mind some super grim moments haha
@HistoritorJimaldus
@HistoritorJimaldus 2 года назад
Dune was definitely an influence on Bakker :)
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
For sure!
@milom5030
@milom5030 2 года назад
Thank you for this review! I've been thinking about picking this book up for quite some time, and now you convinced me to finally start reading it! I'll get to it asap after finishing my current read
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Let me know how you like it!
@brentasmith
@brentasmith 2 года назад
I'm so glad I decided to pick up this series this year. I'm now 2 books into the followup series and it looks like it might end up being a top 4 favorite series for me. And I honestly consider PoN and Aspect Emperor to be like 1 series even though there's a 20 year time skip in between.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
The fact there's more than just three books in this vast, rich world is what has me really fired up. All the amazing lore and history would be wasted on just 3 books. Really solid groundwork here in book one, I'm about ready to jump into book 2, hell I may even start tonight.
@HistoritorJimaldus
@HistoritorJimaldus 2 года назад
It’s my fave of all time
@mrsduncanthetall
@mrsduncanthetall 2 года назад
Omg omg omg I really really wanted you to do this one .i will feel more comfortable once I hear your review
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I think you could like it!
@mrsduncanthetall
@mrsduncanthetall 2 года назад
Ok so i heard you reference Bernard Cornwell.....did you started Wlc😍??? And did you cry?
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@mrsduncanthetall not yet!
@mrsduncanthetall
@mrsduncanthetall 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork two months later....starting it today
@thedrownedkingdomsaga7847
@thedrownedkingdomsaga7847 2 года назад
Amazing video Jimmy! I looked up reviews for this book as I will be reading it soon, and came across yours, so of course that's the one I watched! Great insights! Now I'm really jazzed for this read!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I appreciate it!
@SubFlow22
@SubFlow22 2 года назад
Darkness That Comes Before / Aspect-Emperor, are my favorites, coming in JUST in front of Malazan Book of the Fallen. Absolute must-reads for those who aren't faint-of-heart. Bakker is MUCH darker than Erikson in my humble opinion, though both are masters of their trade.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Oh for sure, the intent/messaging in Bakker's work is much darker and in some regards opposing
@matthewdeancole
@matthewdeancole 2 года назад
The next book, The Warrior-Prophet, is awesome.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'm definitely going to start it soon
@TheBookCure
@TheBookCure 2 года назад
This was a fantastic review, Jimmy! You sold me on the book. While I do sometimes struggle with grimdark, the writing, the scheming, and just your level of enjoyment has convinced me that I should give this a try. I feel like this one is a book I always hear about - in the vaguest sense of the word - but don't actually see a lot of people discuss openly! So thanks for filling that fantasy gap :)
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
You would like this, I am almost 100% sure of it
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Also thanks!
@TheLibraryofAllenxandria
@TheLibraryofAllenxandria 2 года назад
The political maneuvering you were talking about will probably be the ultimate selling point for me to pick this up!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'd love to see you review this tbh
@jojothepirate87
@jojothepirate87 9 месяцев назад
Great video! I just found a first edition hardcover copy at my favorite used book store so I will be adding this to my book queue.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 9 месяцев назад
I am so jealous lol
@jojothepirate87
@jojothepirate87 9 месяцев назад
@@thefantasynuttwork it has some highlighting in the front half of the book which hurts to see but I can't say no to a first edition.
@shawnturpin197
@shawnturpin197 2 года назад
A burned out sorcerer and crows with bald human heads? Oh hell yes!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It's so awesome 😂
@BookishChas
@BookishChas 2 года назад
This book sounds really good! It’s been on my shelf for a long time. I’ll probably tackle it next year.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Let's go!
@thatsci-firogue
@thatsci-firogue 2 года назад
I put all the other Fantasy series I've been reading, excluding Farseer, on pause to read Prince of Nothing and I don't regret it so far. I think I'm with you on Esmenet, though Achamian is also a strong contender for my favourite so far. Have about 150 or so pages left.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It ends with a bang!
@thatsci-firogue
@thatsci-firogue 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork you weren't wrong
@theodoreconstantini2548
@theodoreconstantini2548 Год назад
Great passionate review.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
🙏
@atomicbutterflysupernova
@atomicbutterflysupernova 2 года назад
Well - it's a great read, but it is a challenge to understand, I had to reread a lot of it and I still got a lot of stuff wrong. I thought a lot of it was some killer evil shit, but know that EVERYTHING in it has meaning, everything is significant, so the entertainment of it is secondary really. Don't give up on it, the glossary is so helpful and even more helpful is the FB Group and the TSA online forum. A great deal of the fun is talking about the story with others and man, I've encountered some very smart people to discuss it with and half the fun has been connecting with them and they helping me out understanding it ( and stuff they don't understand makes me feel better, hee hee! ). Anyways, it's an investment, but so worth it and there's a rich group of people you can connect with about it.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I can't wait to connect with more people on this one
@YourBrainonBooks
@YourBrainonBooks 2 года назад
This sounds pretty sweet! I’ll have to check it out
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'd enjoy hearing your take brother
@angelamccollister
@angelamccollister 2 года назад
I read this many years ago and loved it.
@darren2880
@darren2880 2 года назад
Definitely picking this up soon
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Let me know what you think!
@philmiller3813
@philmiller3813 3 месяца назад
Great analysis TFN. I agree. I loved the book and number 2 and will read the third. I must add the glossary helped a lot. An excellent writer.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 3 месяца назад
One of the best the fantasy genre has seen imo
@alynam82
@alynam82 2 года назад
This sounds good, I can enjoy some good grimdark. Definitely added this to my TBR for a 2022 read.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy 😁
@rommelmaldia5365
@rommelmaldia5365 9 месяцев назад
I go to your channel to get recommendations on a new fantasy book to read. I am about done with the first book of the Under the Northern Sky and I don't think I will continue on, it isn't for me. I have finished the Dandelion Dynasty series, also recommended in this channel, which I thoroughly enjoyed. And based on your glowing review here, I think I have my next fantasy book in the queue. Thanks!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 9 месяцев назад
Yeah The Wolf isn’t bad but not very remarkable in pretty much anyway
@berentook
@berentook 2 года назад
This has been on my radar for some time now, i might have to move it up.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I hope you like it!
@AshtheViking
@AshtheViking 2 года назад
I read the first two books several years ago when we were assigned The Darkness that Comes Before in a Fantasy lit university course and Bakker came in to speak. It's been so long I need to re-read and finish the series.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
That's is so cool. I'd love to take that class!
@nyarparablepsis872
@nyarparablepsis872 Год назад
Just finishing the book, and I agree with you, the prose is amazing! And the storytelling has me hooked. I am extremely excited that there are more books than just one trilogy by Bakker set in this world! Just wanted to chime in on the sexual abuse bits. I'm a survivor myself, and am typically not really a fan of reading things like that. However, even though Bakker's descriptions can be a bit graphic, he never writes the abuse gratuitously. I appreciate that the author decided to include such a difficult topic without wallowing in it for pure shock value. Anyways, subbed :)
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
This was a great comment. I really value hearing your thoughts on this book and appreciate you sharing your personal experiences. I'm sorry you went through that. I think Bakker gets better as he goes and hope you find the sequels as amazing as I have
@LaMarco0
@LaMarco0 Год назад
You had me at "political maneuvering". I love palace intrigue! Although, I'm still not sure what the plot is.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
The plot is slow moving, but we are moving towards a massive holy war, and a possible apocalypse.
@mattkean1128
@mattkean1128 2 года назад
This is one I've been curious about. You see a couple varying opinions out there.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It's one that demands discussion
@NaosSabot
@NaosSabot 2 года назад
Bakker is the greatest living fantasy author. Truth Shines! I read Bakker before grimdark was a category. So I read Abercrombie after completing the whole bakkerverse. Abercrombie reads like YA compared to bakker
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I don't think Abercrombie is YA really at all, but yeah I love Bakker
@NaosSabot
@NaosSabot 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork YA only in comparison to Bakker, not YA in content. It's light fare.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@NaosSabot cool cool
@MacScarfield
@MacScarfield 2 года назад
A bit of topic, but with your mentioning of GGK and Lions of Al-Rassan, I just wondered if you had read/planning reviews of other works by him? I have finished «Tigana» & «The Lions of Al-Rassan» and is halfway through A Song for Arbonne. Loved the world building/mythology and villains in «Tigana» and loved the characters in «Al-Rassan» from the very start! Just halfway into «Arbonne», but have already fallen in love with the major characters. Blaise’s scenes first with the Duke in the mountains and then with Rudel at his villa: Such wicked good writing!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Hey good to see your comment showing GGK some love! I definitely will be reading his other stuff but not sure when. Will be doing publication order I think!
@ajpend
@ajpend 2 года назад
Cool review.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Thanks!!
@mjdaniel8710
@mjdaniel8710 2 года назад
This is a really good series
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'm digging it 🤘
@BooksWithBenghisKahn
@BooksWithBenghisKahn 2 года назад
Loved this review, and this just shot up my tbr for sure after seeing how well it landed for you! Is that cover not one of the ugliest fantasy covers you've ever seen though? Pretty hard to believe everyone involved was pleased with that goofy photorealistic face.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It's such a bad cover and it's impossible to get all three books matching 😭😭
@koleary1798
@koleary1798 Год назад
I have the PoN trilogy ready for me as soon as I wrap up Realm of the Elderlings before the end of the month (sickening thought). I read the first few pages of Darkness just to get a flavour of it; man you weren't kidding about those names! I'm not dyslexic but for whatever reason I have a super hard time remembering names. It'll be a real learning curve for the first book at least for me! Especially after Hobb and her wonderfully easy to remember characters, half of whom are named after virtues haha.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
Yeah it's a big switch lol
@safinan8008
@safinan8008 2 года назад
Good book review!! I don’t like too much grim dark books.... grim dark book has to be a great storyline then I will pick it up... happy reading to you! 📖😊👋🍁
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Thank you!
@thatsci-firogue
@thatsci-firogue 4 месяца назад
Hits different on a re-read.
@cairosilver2932
@cairosilver2932 2 года назад
Bakker has said he is flexible on how people pronounce character names, it's up to the reader. Also probably ties into some of his themes though, because when you run into another reader and they say character X's name this way and you say it that way...there's an interpersonal hurdle to work out.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I like that
@trill_nathan
@trill_nathan Год назад
I just finished the first book today, absolutely loved it. I was especially interested because I see it compared to Berserk. And yeah, going in with a comparison expectation is usually a recipe for disaster, but it worked well here. By far my favorite genre is dark fantasy that lets the horror aspect fully creep in. Between the No-God, the Giger-esque feel of the skin spy, and the Consult, I imagine I'm in for exactly what I want. I'm also super interested in Khellus. Strong Griffith vibes, particular after his reincarnation. Both characters just effortlessly amass people around them and its frightening but so fun to read
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
Oh dude Griffith and Kellhus are tightly coupled
@Red21Viper
@Red21Viper Год назад
Cnaiur along with Kellhus has similar dynamics, characteristics and antagonism to Griffith with Guts
@trill_nathan
@trill_nathan Год назад
@@Red21Viper I can definitely see that. Almost done with the 3rd book now
@Red21Viper
@Red21Viper Год назад
@@trill_nathan that was fast. Hope you enjoyed. The sequel series is even better and more horrific in my opinion
@trill_nathan
@trill_nathan Год назад
@@Red21Viper I am loving it! And great to hear. Can't wait
@zacturf-n-sports6203
@zacturf-n-sports6203 2 года назад
Joe Abercrombie, the faithful and the fallen is amazing by John gwynn, Beyond Redemption. Never heard Malazahn pronounced that way, but I like it!! I could care less bout races though, it’s more culture that interest me. Thanks for your review
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
My pleasure, thanks for checking it out!
@jeidelbergin
@jeidelbergin Год назад
I got this book as a gift in 2009 but never read it cuz back then i was craving something more similar to Tolkien. Magic, different races and stuff like that. Didn't even know what grimdark was. Now I'm so Happy that i own it.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
That’s awesome!
@HakolBeseder09
@HakolBeseder09 2 года назад
Brace yourself when you get to Aspect Emperor
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I've heard it's a trip
@HakolBeseder09
@HakolBeseder09 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork Indeed and beyond i should say
@jakebishop7822
@jakebishop7822 2 года назад
Fine, I will read it
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
It's about time
@potatopower2144
@potatopower2144 Месяц назад
Would you recommend this to someone who hasn't read much grim dark but loves sword and sorcery and heroic fantasy? My favorite writers are Robert E. Howard, Moorcock, David Gemmell, Clark Ashton Smith, Fritz Leiber, and Jack Vance
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Месяц назад
Worth a shot but I don’t think it matches that vibe exactly
@deanryanmartin
@deanryanmartin 7 месяцев назад
The title of this book sounds unique. It sounds evil to a point that you can realize that there is an understandable reason why it is evil.
@chrisjzh
@chrisjzh 2 года назад
How do people pronounce Malazan? Love this series btw, absolutely gorgeous Fun fact - the major events in this story are lifted straight from the real First Crusade that took Jerusalem in 1102. The battles are the same, the sieges, the speech from the Pope (Shriah), the Vulgar Holy War (People's Crusade)
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Oh very cool!
@chrisjzh
@chrisjzh 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork yeah he basically superimposed his crazy apocalyptic fantasy over the real history of what happens. The Nansur are the Byzantines etc it's all there. I only just realised it cause I read a book about the crusade, but Bakker has apparently been quite explicit about this the whole time
@shulgi582
@shulgi582 2 года назад
Personally, enjoyed this lot more than Malazan. I do have some problems with the series, especially later on, but the finale is probably one of the best I've encountered so far. Definitely Erikson level of "HOLY FUCKING SHIT". Names are ridiculous. I dislike them sincerely. But they're also awesome. Kellhus is the original gigachad. Dune and Tolkien are Bakker's greatest influences outside some philosophers like, say, Hegel. Speaking of, philosophy is a big theme and probably together with Acts of Caine (he he) the best representation of it in the genre. Fuck Esmenet though : baseddepartment: Next book is my second favorite in the series. It also gets progressively darker.
@shulgi582
@shulgi582 2 года назад
The sorcerous battles - best I've ever read Top 5 beatiful prose material, too. Definitely more similar to GGK for me. Erikson is much more... dramatic about... well, absolutely everything.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I loved reading your thoughts. He is a gigachad 😂
@shadowtemple7426
@shadowtemple7426 2 года назад
You don't like the names? The first time I read the name "Kumrezzer" I was like yessssssssss
@ToddsBookTube91
@ToddsBookTube91 2 месяца назад
Dear Jimmy, I have only read The Darkness That Comes Before By Bakker. A big complaint of the story is there is sorcerers but not any magic in the books is this true as the series continues?
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 месяца назад
Nope, tons of magic and destruction coming in the following books
@ToddsBookTube91
@ToddsBookTube91 2 месяца назад
@@thefantasynuttwork thanks Jimmy I appreciate it
@EricMcLuen
@EricMcLuen 2 года назад
Great, more books to pick up along with some Wurts....
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
My bad 😂
@aysseralwan
@aysseralwan 2 года назад
I'm glad you liked it. I for my part couldn't get into it tho I read the whole book I surrendered at book 2 of the trilogy cuz I couldn't root for a single person especially Cnaiur and Kellhus were disgusting people from start to finish and they were too prominent roles so I dnf'd
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
That's totally fair
@muttineni03
@muttineni03 2 года назад
Very well thought out review, honestly don't see many reviews on this series, but it's grabbing lot of attention lately, I'm currently reading The Last Argument of Kings and loving it very much, Why do you think it's dense and in what way, I've been thinking about this book since longtime but I've heard it's dense but not sure it's because of plot or prose?
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Prose is not too dense, it's the world building and the sheer amount of characters and locations who all have their own cultures, etc. Plus the names are ridiculous lol
@muttineni03
@muttineni03 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork Wow sounds very interesting, I always have hard time with names in fantasy world's 😁
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@muttineni03 same, where's all the Bob's at in these worlds 😂
@muttineni03
@muttineni03 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork lol a Bob could lighten up a bleak world like this 😀
@Red21Viper
@Red21Viper 2 года назад
@@muttineni03 one small hint from an Old world person. I am Greek and I find the names easy to cope with. Very interesting too. They fit to the world building. Bakker uses a lot ancient germanic names and mostly eastern Mediterranean and eastern, Iranian or Indian. Guessing from your name I think you ll find them relatable too.
@laurasalo6160
@laurasalo6160 7 месяцев назад
@11:30 i thought you said "misuse of the sexual nature" and i was thinking: I want some of that!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 7 месяцев назад
Hahaha
@tia_lenay
@tia_lenay Год назад
I am having a hard time getting through this one! But I feel I should keep pushing.....should I keep going?!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork Год назад
If you want! Book two is much better imo
@tia_lenay
@tia_lenay Год назад
@@thefantasynuttwork the way you described The aspect emperor in one of your other videos is what makes me want to continue.
@ajpend
@ajpend 2 года назад
I think the series is called "The Prince of Nothing".
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Ah, I missed the The lol
@Lolofield
@Lolofield 2 года назад
haha i'm losing my mind at your syllable emphasis. They might be correct but I've always pronounced Erikson's books MAL-uh-ZAN and Bakker's line of kings an-ASU-rim-BOR.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
I'm the dumbest guy I know so don't mind my inability to speak 😂
@Lolofield
@Lolofield 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork never heard the authors say the names so you might be right for all I know
@currangill430
@currangill430 2 года назад
Littlefinger: Knowlege is power Bakker: Magic is power In all seriousness I think I will like this series! Is this the series that people consider really rapey?
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
There's a lot of assault in these books
@currangill430
@currangill430 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork I read the first chapter. It reads a lot like poetry and the names are stupid hard to pronounce 🤣
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
@@currangill430 it's extremely dense and complicated. I found the names very hard to remember lol I gave characters nicknames 😂
@currangill430
@currangill430 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork 🧐
@jasper4365
@jasper4365 2 года назад
non-man are elves? how? they can't be killed with swords and command the srank and wear capes of humanfaces and heavy armor, does not sound elvish to me.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Certainly not a one for one, just through discussions I've read it's the connection I've seen made
@anyname4306
@anyname4306 2 года назад
Are you secretly a strongman?^^ Those are some serious thick arms.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Hahah I do workout a lot and such
@anyname4306
@anyname4306 2 года назад
@@thefantasynuttwork My respects :)
@NaosSabot
@NaosSabot 2 года назад
Chiggra, chiggra ket ahn narnu cetara chiggra
@cabrademora1
@cabrademora1 2 года назад
:D
@drawyrral
@drawyrral 2 года назад
Bakker thinks he's a good author too.
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
he definitely is!
@bookswithzara
@bookswithzara 2 года назад
I love the premise of this book but I’m nervous to jump in. I bought it recently so hopefully I’ll get to it soon. Great review, Jimmy!
@thefantasynuttwork
@thefantasynuttwork 2 года назад
Thank you 😊
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