The Harsh Reality For 50% Of Women 

@@mosesking2923 What a terrible person

I was childless at age 58, when my partner of 20 years suggested children. I worked and was fine not having kids. He was age 60 and organized the birth of twins by egg donor/carrier. So, I raised my 13 year olds from birth at a late age, experiencing both states of womanhood in my lifetime. I would say childless women may be happier, have time for opportunities for self-expression, and lead more interesting lives. But, I deeply love my children and cannot deny that the experience is profound, my understanding of life broadened, and am a less selfish person as a result.

​@@gracielchiu Sounds Ace, older parents have a richer comprehension of the pitfalls their children can face, which has to be benificial

You tease you 😂

@@Josh-tf9cr I understand his point, however I don’t think Christ himself would hope for tragedy in hopes of growth. The issue is “hoping” for bad things to happen. Obviously pain and suffering allow for growth but I personally think it’s better to hope they recover instead of hoping they deal with consequences.

I know. It’s just so ridiculous

Says who? No one is forcing you to have kids ....

men deal better with being alone than women do. that is a fact

@@spiritofalaska But don't studies show that women (whether married or not) have a larger support system 🙄🙄🙄

@@ABC-ho5jo that is why i wrote men can deal with being alone better than women, because we usually don´t need bunch of "support groups". we enjoy lone time much more.. also the "girl squads" don´t last. because times change and people move or some get married then the ones who never get married or have children are all left alone by themselfes. there are alot of single and lone women out there

That doesn't excuse ending your own bloodline like a dumbfuck.

@@Slavkleos Bloodlines don’t matter. 😋

Same goes for women.

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agreed! it`s awful and difficult to even see how wonderful family can be when your first, important years were ruined by family. Nowadays you dont wanna deal with any of that shit would prefer option what guarantee: peace, no stress and anxiety all the time. Just saying pls do what you think its best for you. You know yourself better than anyone

That is a sad state of affairs. They basically scared and lied to people and convinced them not to have children. People have lost sight of the future and leaving their family a legacy. No sense of honor and duty anymore. No idea of sacrifice for the greater good or country. Businesses and corporations have tricked people into working themselves to death and not having anything or anyone for their elderly years. Wow what a sad state of affairs. People with no concept of having grandchildren like they were blessed to have grandparents. The ugly side of capitalism is killing off generations.

So true.. the cost of living also has went up sooo crazy. Especially if you live in a major city. Back when your parents were young, they could just move out and get a “regular job” and be able to hold down a 1 bedroom by themselves, even with not the best job. But at least have a stable place of their own until they get to the point where they can get a better job/career and then a better place. You would even be able to have a girlfriend, have a kid, have an apartment on your own, with a regular job back then. You cannot do that anymore in this society. It’s not that simple anymore. The “American Dream” has changed, the whole structure has changed. People don’t even want the American dream anymore nor does America push that rhetoric anymore. This is the new world that we live in. NWO.

Ohh, I fell hard from the American cedar fence.....

That's a good point. Also, you can take out a 30 yr mortgage and 9 months later your employer says "we are going in a new direction. your job is no longer needed". Point being, employers have no problem sacking people with less than 2 years on the job, regardless of productivity. I even knew an employee ask his boss if it was safe to buy a house and relocate, and the boss said yes, and he still got laid off within a year. He didn't even want to live in that city. The boss did not have any discretion about the layoff.

Personally if that’s how they feel then they shouldn’t be having sex.

Exactly, it does not effect anybody else, where we choose to reproduce or not, except the child being born into this hellhole of oppression and hate. But, if someone three kilometers from me chooses to have children, it will not effect me in the slightest. If they choose not to have children, it still does not effect me. I chose to not reproduce because I am not making more tax slaves for the wealthy-elite politicians and corporate zombies. I just can not be that selfish. However, this effects nobody but me and the politicians and corporations, which I care nothing for them.

It’s that simple

these feelings were manufactured...

@@christianb.4726 The feelings for wanting kids were manufactured? I guess that makes sense, given how annoying they are. 😉

It is absolutely the worst advice to follow your feelings, have you ever seen how the feelings of a women change about something in a 28 day period? The same person can have oposite feelings at different times of the month… that is why we have tradition and culture to guide us through the unknown

Same 😅

yeah riding the cockcarussel must be exhausting

Having a child is the best thing you can have in the world.

@@duncanhewitt6557 I’d rather have my trips to Japan. 😋

It's not for everyone. But, think about the topic enough to the point where you know you won't regret your decision in the future

… and you can be a single mom, married or not.

good. get married before having kids

@@wade2boshRead the comment above you🙄

He is saying getting married is better than being a single mom with children born out of wedlock.

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then stay single. no one is forcing you

@@rickyticky3350 Gee, thanks so much for your *Permission*

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I'm very sorry to hear that. It's hard to believe people can be cruel to their own children, yet we see it every day.

I felt unwanted and always had the fear I would secretly not want my child after having him or her.

Wonderful sentiment. Your staff were lucky to have you

Women didn't "fight" for squat. You complained a lot in the streets. Hardly storming Iwo Jima.

@@tellercydeyou alright dawg?

​@@tellercyde I agree that it has always been innate in men to give their lives to women and want to please them so no real fighting was needed. But no need to argue about that in this thread which has nothing to do with that.

Sounds like cope and backward rationalizing.

@Pedro Ortega It's truly absurd.

@Pedro Ortega the real scary thing Pedro the Global Elites who run us ? they don't need 7.7 billion people to rule this planet they can easily lose 7.2 Billion and would be fine with just half a billion people so they are not worried about Population decline they will always have enough supply of cheap labor

The wealthiest people have: -lower taxes on their primary income of wealth & sources: capital gains, dividends, and inheritance -(through corporate positions or ownership) extreme political power through lobbyists, ownership of capital, and control over workers (Eg how much peer pressure gets applied for people at your office to vote for pro-business interests?)

The lifestyle of women now don’t want to get married. That is not the problem. The problem is that these same women will have children out of wedlock.chosing boys who are easy on the eyes and not young men who can be responsible. the biological fathers do not care or do not know because it’s a one time fling. So, they turn their attention to young men who at one time wanted them. These young men want nothing to do with them. Because it’s not their responsibility. These women had their chance and blew it. Now they want to prey on any simp to help them

I know, it's terrible...Freddo Chocolate Frogs have gone up 46% since the danpemic...awful.

But it can mean you should do.

@@brianterence3211 …. No

@@brianterence3211 free will is a thing

​@@brianterence3211 It doesn't mean you should

@@brianterence3211 Doesn’t mean you have to or should. 😋😘

I think you should understand that the chances of you re-joining the workforce after a long gap is unlikely. Fortunately your husband would have set aside money to compensate you for the lost years being a SAHM given the fact that you have no income .

There are many opportunities out there so don’t be discouraged. Many companies appreciate skills you have from running a household (eg negotiating with little terrorists 😊) good luck!

​@@makeitcount2985 what makes you think it's unlikely that no employer will value her work ethic, people-skills, reliability etc.? Nothing stopping her from starting her own business either.

She will be fine with rejoining the workforce. A person like her is stable and has a good work ethic.

You are an awesome person 💓 You have priorities in correct order.

Well said. I know Jordan is emphasizing the positives of having a kid here (sorta) but it’s such a huge risk for a variety of reasons, and one is you can easily end up a single mother and if you don’t have that established career, you’re going to be fucked. Especially if you’re in the US where we tend to demonize single motherhood

@@GavinMichaels The us tends to "demonize" single motherhoods?!?! are you out of your mind? the us is probably one of the places that pushes for single motherhood the most, saying things like "you don't need a man", "women can do it all" and other bullocks.

@@GavinMichaels Exactly. Well stated.

@@dude2410 Compared to other developed countries, we do demonize them. Look at other developed countries and the benefits they have for single mothers, and compare it to the US. The fact that "welfare mom" is an insult for many conservatives is telling. It doesn't mean we have ZERO programs to help single motherhood, but it means we've got a long way to go. And it makes single motherhood such a huge risk in the US. Also I think you're taking the phrase "you don't need a man" to mean that women don't need a partner in marriage, where (at least when I've seen it used) it's in reference to women having self-respect without feeling like they need to be hitched (without a child that is) when the norm for so long was if you're not married by such and such age, you're a failure, embarrassment etc.

That's the REAL problem. Well said.

@@mmecharlotte👏👏👏👏👏

Not that it was more expensive it’s that there’s more to buy

@queefstormiest It is, that's a fact. You may not know because you don't have any kids, and if you have, you are not taking proper care of them.

@@31tentaclesthe US government gives a $3600 income tax credit just 10 years ago it was about $500 credit… as a whole in our society we need a growing population cause they will take care of us at older age and keep the economy going.

@@gabrielgonzalez6456 OMG, what? Having children is not so they can take care of old parents, no offense but that's just fkd up, bro ❗️ if a man wants children so they can take care of him when he is old, he doesn't need kids, he needs a nurse (or she, whatever), children are people, not objects or property

You’re a stay at home Mom?

The best decision you will ever make, god bless you and your family 🙏🏽

Now you just have to hope a another country doesn't declare war and invade. Considering 65% of men are single and don't care anymore about careers, that family could be gone.

Christ and the Essene's believed that bringing children into the world was a sin and trapped the consciousness of God in physical matter and it was a great service to remain celibate and spare the consciousness of god the cruel experience of this world ruled by the demiurge Yaldabaoth.

@@eldenking2098 but how could the consciousness grow through experiencing Earth in a physical form if there were no physical body available to inhabit? thats why we come here to Earth...to learn about and spiritually develop our immortal souls by choosing to live in this temporary dream world of duality and pain....you need a physical body to do that don't you? Coming to Earth for awhile is the "fastrack' for our spiritual development...thats why we come here in the 1st place...the" iron must be made into steel" and tested in this world of illusion..in this world of "hard knocks"....

You've got that right. Many of us have no interest in putting children into a country that will not follow the laws as promised. I'm not going to work hard to make my child a slave in our new society.

I need to find this man 😂

100% accurate, good comment man

Nailed it. Reminds me of "Idiocracy". We're living it.

@@IdExCS "I'm gonna f**k all of y'all!! Wooo!!!"

this is literally it! the issue isn't people in general choosing to have kids or not, its the people who SHOULD NOT be having kids and doing it anyway, THOSE people are the problem.

Yup. The smart people create social welfare programs and then decide not to have kids so all those resources just go into raising dumber kids 🙄

My g✌🏾🇳🇬

The societal momentum is hard to recognize before it’s to late.

@Ram Rod Its called "Sheit Testing" at the global level

That would require critical thought, which most people lack. That's why cultural institutions are so important, because people will mindlessly follow it

Its because we are only meant to be in a small community of 25-50 humans. That's when there is balance. Technology more so social media has flat out turned the scale upside down.

Yeah, blame society! As if you don't have a mind of your own to decide for yourself.

I've honestly never heard the phrase "popped your clogs" 😂

THANK YOU! Nobody every talked to us about HOW TO actually get pregnant if you're not 17 anymore and highly fertile. Lol it's not just happening any time at the month, even if the timing is right, the chance of 20% success is the highest it can get most of the time. Trying for over a year now with hubby, no baby in sight and it sucks. 😢 it's no fun anymore to try every month like crazy only for Aunt Flo to show up right on time every month and you think to yourself WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO DO, NATURE?!

My religious zealot mother spewed that rubbish as well.

The bluff is called, now that some countries just may be heading for a population implosion, a reduced population is now a problem.

yep totally gonna cause extinction within the next 24 hours best prepare

Exactly. I love Jordan for lots of reasons and agree with 80%+ of what he says, but will never agree with his Christians puritanical views. Any hint of "a woman's life/essence is her motherhood/having a family, and if she doesn't have one by 30/40, then her life is meaningless." -puke-

I envisioned myself having kids. But I went through a bit of trauma in childhood. I was depressed most of 20s. I am in my 30s, never had a relationship. I think I will be single forever. I don't want history repeating itself, whatever that means. I think I am OK. I have gone through the stages. I am no longer angry. I am moving on.

@@YaYousef5 I agreed. That is a gross opinion of what a human being’s self worth. I thought he was an atheist…

@Bak women and men are not the same men are designed to be alone women are not

no it’s not, listen closely to jordan.

Good for you, Eastern European men are all over Ireland and they're really horrible to even us native women who pay taxes to give them free housing. They're really aggressive too

damn speak for yourself. Calling every Slav dysfunctional.

Thank you for putting this in. I am from a middle eastern family and I am a witness of how my mother is being patient with my father, who mentally abused the entire family for more than a decade. I see this in 90% of my relatives relationships as well. Unfortunately it is a cultural thing for many, that the wife is a mother and is not independent and has no other choice than staying with a crazy husband ( it also happens to be the other way around, but this video is about women). You never know how things go, so it IS important to get at least a decent education so that you can have a secure job to survive, if things go totally wrong. But I still want to finish my studies because it is my highest interest to be a scientist and can't wait to become a mother one day!

@@BOZ_11 excuse me, so if a man is totally unhappy with his wife after a couple of years, how is it then? „ well, he married her“? You never know people 100%, we don’t even know ourselves. And especially in other cultures, you don’t get the chance to „try“ someone first as it is in western countries. People most likely think that people all over the world have the same freedom in choosing their partners the way it is in western societies.

Smart men are walking away from whamen and marriage big time now, so don't worry. Enjoy your career and cats ...

Would you want to somehow juggle junior high/high school and a kid? 😹😹😹😹😹

"you should also make a podcast about something that occurs at a much lesser percentage"

He should also make a podcast about why undisciplined 13 year old girls are spreading their legs...

True. But society won’t notice this things that women go through.

Agree. If it’s between children and career, the later wins. A child is a huge commitment (when you care) and yet women are not compensated for this vital labour.

@@Coastpsych_fi99 that is a very sad way of looking at it. you care more about money than your own family glad your not my parent.

@@mike-pw8hi That is because your family will *die* if you don't have the money to feed them.

@@Coastpsych_fi99 ignoramus

Exactly! THIS is what's hapening, people are CHOOSING not to reproduce. Period.

@@clublulu399 is there any science to prove that or ...?

@@clublulu399 No, you should get out and talk to people more. You're making a silly assumption. Women are not hardwired to have kids, they just can if they want to. It's an option. Some of us don't want anything to do with it. Once you have kids, you can certainly understand the downside to it.

I've never wanted kids (I'm 38). I have a huge, dysfunctional family, and while I strive for and maintain a healthy lifestyle it's never been a desire for me. I've been with my husband 24 years, and we both love children but we are more than content loving our many neices and nephews. Don't let people make you feel like something is wrong with you. If it's in God's plan for you to have children, you will have children.

@@LapisPebble Humans are not bacteria whose only purpose is to reproduce mindlessly, many great minds of history died without children and they are still remembered, while the average family and parent is unremarkable.

so 50% of woman dont want kids is that what you saying?

Shill bot. No one said it was wrong, shill. The issue is our society made it hard when they do. You are a corporate shill.

Dr. Peterson isn’t saying it’s wrong, he’s simply saying that he’s observed that 50% end up regretting the decision to postpone having children. Nothing more, nothing less.

​@@timothyruff1561 how could he scientifically observe "50%" of women? He observed SOME women regret it. But saying half of women regret it is an overstatement. It's ridiculus.

​@@tanishalavri3278He is just a pop pseudo intellectual bro spreading the typical conservative narrative I don't take him seriously at this point .

@@tanishalavri3278 Observations can be statistically significant.

Guy who wants a family and kids but will likely never get chance due to not being wanted. Add that to the list.

And the 40s desperately wanted kids and devestated with her infertility person. Add that one, too.

There arw so many reason to be thankful

True. And they're all satisfied with their lives. There's a level of satisfaction with that.

@@PwerRanger01 I'm 34 and never been in a fulfilling relationship

You regret having your child?

What happened?

@@GeoRandelmore common than u think!

exactly... one of my best friends is a single mom...she's in her late 40's but times are TOUGH for her. one of her kids is on college and is a total leech/spends so much unnecessarily. i feel for her!

@@EadsB7002 Leech 😂😂😂😂

That one of the main things that make if incredibly difficult. This economy. Its going to get worse. Having a newborn in this day and age is not a good idea.

Well you can ask them why they're simgle parents. It takes two people and two incomes in most cases in this economy in order to properly raise children. You're right, it's not fair for the child to have a single parent try to raise them all on their own, but investigate why they're single parents. I guarantee most of your friends had children out of wedlock, or have divorced their spouses over reconcilable shit. We need to reconstruct the family unit, but it doesn't start with the children. It starts with husbands and wives to form healthy marriages.

@@jacksonmills961 you're missing something there mate,in order to re establish marriage the way it's supposed to be , Religion has to take power again and dictate its laws and thus reconstruct marriage as God's wants it to be, unfortunately the west is anti religion and won't accept to have religion rulling,so people will just keep roaming as lustful animals and women will keep being sexually exploited and impregnated out of wed lock and be condemned to be single mothers for the rest of their lives.

having Kids are waste of time and energy, do job till your 70 and then have fun with retirement 👍

. I’m 32 and my mother had me at 40. She tells me I have plenty of time to conceive. I am not sure I want a child but I also wouldn’t put it completely off the table with my partner. I feel like he’s putting the fear of god into me when I watch these videos.

@@tessamarie8698 What you said makes no sense, why would women be paid more just because they're women?

Yep. The more I watched this type of content the more I become certain children are not for me. I’ve always been vigilant about birth control and looking into being sterilised. Would love to hear his wife’s perspective. Its easy to want kids when you don’t get pregnant, give birth or have to give up your career.

​@@Coastpsych_fi99well the overarching point of these videos is that eventually the shiny career kinda loses it's novelty and appeal. And when that inevitably happens for some women, they find it's too late to turn back the clock. It's not pleasant and I don't wish that on anybody. Some ppl truly aren't for the parenting life. Either way, know yourself.

But he's not realizing that each will value those opportunities differently. The son will value education, work, and income a lot higher than the daughter. Why? B/c with those things he's attractive to the opposite sex. For her, those things will get a pat on the back at best or the envy of her peers. He will be fulfilled, she will not be fulfilled. You're seeing this more and more with young women today. They're starting to see they were sold a false promise but they're realizing this too late...

@ChadiusMaximus196 You really max out on wrong assumptions assuming she will be unfulfilled. His daughter is an educated professional and an athlete, as is her partner. There's no false promises whatsoever.

The 70 year old is a male simp

@@wyleecoyotee4252 What I have seen is the following. Most men are incels. The women aren't incels, but they aren't any happier because they're pingponging around from Chad to Chad. And this has reached the point where they *literally* do not care if you are cheating - seen that first hand. Also education has no effect on attraction, but steroids do, so we men end up taking stuff. Maybe your 45 year old "friend's daughter" is different, but let's be real brother, her father is 70, she's a generation older than us zoomers. She's old enough to be my mom, and has a "partner" instead of a spouse. How many kids does she have? Maybe she's happy, I hope she is, but Peterson isn't wrong.

Congratulations 🙂

Your father is a sorry excuse of a human being. Some men can be so worthless. They'll do the stupidest things for sex. I hope your siblings appreciate your sacrifice and that you are enjoying parenthood the second time around. I thank you for being a good human being and doing what's right/hard even if it wasn't your responsibility. It makes us better and resilient, too, so I hope you feel some sense of peace in having lived your difficult childhood.

Unreal, all the best for you. Amazing story.

Shouldn't you be saying ( our sons) life??

Wow that's incredibly rough but glad to hear you were resilient despite your life circumstances 😮

Don't think to much about material goods. There will always will be a solution, especially as people are dumping perfectly fine goods for nothing as second hand goods. The most important and beautiful things don't cost money: loving parents, time spend outside in the woods etc.

@@schulze6758there will always be rich people throwing away perfectly fine things. That doesn't mean a poor family can afford them, even thrifting, and the hours that costs to find useful stuff before the flippers do. Time outside in the woods is free, until you have to purchase the woods or land, or spend the time you dont have, while working to keep up payments on a shelter you'll never own. This really reads very out of touch with anyone being able to afford kids. but it shows you 'dont think too much about material goods' and don't know why anyone struggles

​@@schulze6758 Oh yeah, because there are so many great jobs and affordable homes to purchase near "the woods" you'll send your children to play in...

You got! I told my daughter that you really can’t trust men to be providers or protectors anymore and men are just losing their minds. Instead of acknowledging that there is a problem with men wanting 50/50 now is when we look at alllll the responsibilities a woman must endure in order to be wifed plus having to work just as hard, marriage seems unfair for women. Now men use shaming tactics to force women to chase them. Makes no sense. I have 2 kids was married and stilll lived as a single mother. I would have never signed up for this shit if I knew that my husband was just going to find someone younger and dumber than me.🤷🏽‍♀️ oh well you live and learn the lies.

@@schulze6758 second hand furniture and clothing can NOT solve the problem of average house these days costing TEN average annual incomes, while 30 years ago it was only THREE.

This should be pinned. Many women did NOT want children. They had them because it was the next “step” . Then the child(ren) are abandoned emotionally and mentally. Then men pretend to not know about the neglect because they aren’t being a present parent either. I commend you for taking the necessary steps to ensure your own well being 💜✨

amen

Exactly!!! People should only have kids if they really want to have kids and can provide for their kids❤

Same unfortunately x

Would you rather have never existed?

Wow. You literally hate yourself and your body. Whats wrong with you?

The most important thing in life is what each individual decides it is. 😉

its even less important now that women are making their own money

I'm sorry for your difficulties. I appreciate you sharing this though. For the conversation, yours is a good example of a situation where a woman does not have children despite wanting to do so. I do hope the best for you no matter what, and for what it is worth, you are still plenty young if you did happen across someone. As you are able, it is always worth pursuing the goal if you wish. Or, if even you were to meet someone after 40, or thereabouts, adoption is always a great option for couples who want children but consider their age to be a risk factor for conceiving. In today's time, a couple in their 40s are plenty young to raise children even if biology makes it difficult. Regardless, I wish you all of the best!

I have an example like this in the family, stay strong and good luck.

True, it is circumstantial for some. But you're much better off delaying in order to give yourself , your potential spouse, and your potential child the best shot at a stable life. It's really hard out there nowadays, especially for single moms. And no shade....one of my best friends is a single mom. But she is struggling bigtime.

Do you think you have it worse than your grandparents?

@@hamzamahmood9565 Really inappropriate question. 😖

Most of time women don't have an issue dating unlike an average guy who doesn't even get looked at as potential even if a good man. As women have it so easy and have many options then it is the women at fault for chasing wrong men if can't find decent one.

" Dating is difficult b/c men do not want to be tied down, help raise children or be monogamous." Look for different type of men and a different setting. I know so many guys my age that wanted exactly that in their 20s.

You seem like an extremely self aware, intelligent person. I think you will have a happier life knowing that you’ve made your choices so consciously, based on how well you know yourself. I think having another being to care for is an innate part of the human experience. However, there’s no reason you can’t offer that care and love to a pet, who will no doubt have an amazing life.

Before my husband and I met he had 2 children. I'm 35, no children, never wanted children. Now that I'm getting older, I want children and my husband doesn't want any. Haha

I'll be ur pet

So true. Visit a nursing home sometime. 😢

that only happens in degenerate western/european cultures.

Nothing in life is guaranteed so why do anything at all in that case? What a flawed mentality

@@Gathalok death and taxes

@@rosahoran2480 yep it's a loser mindset. Why take risk in anything at all. Why start a business. Why live? Weak pathetic excuses.

So then don't complain about why your country is taking too many immigrants from different cultural backgrounds who don't want to assimilate.😂

@@johanandersson5875 I don't

Early and even mid 30s is a reasonable age to have children. My mom had my sis at 31 and me at 33. My grandmother had my aunt at 38 and my dad at 42. Feminists try to drive this narrative that women don't need to think about their age and they can freeze their eggs, and they have plenty of time, etc. It's lunacy. There's definitely a time limit. On the flip side, it's frustrating how the more conservative types tend to drive the narrative that women need to have their children in their 20s. Its as though they think we hit menopause at 30. Both mentalities are flawed.

@@JessG_20 While you are correct, it's also true that men shouldn't have kids after their 40s. Testosterone plummets and autism becomes more prevalent.

@@VintageCardinal Agree, that's something else I was thinking but didn't mention.

@@JessG_20 It does seem like the narrative is either/or. I had 3 kids in my 20's while working in aviation. And then I had twins at 40 years old last year. I've got to say, in my 40's, I realized I was too old and too tired to get through the pregnancy while holding down a job and definitely too old and tired to take care of twins and hold down a job. Eff that noise. But in my 20's I had a supportive husband and the energy and drive to hold down a job and be a mother. We shared parenting duties and I think we made a great decision going ahead and having kids in our 20's. 18 years of marriage and he's still wonderful. The thing is, I did college but never saw my job as a career. I looked for a field that would provide well for me. I was in a male dominated field and didn't try to compete for promotions. I was never interested in working myself to death. I rejected overtime and was told I'm not a team player. I'd rather be a good parent than a team player.

@@runningfromabear8354 I can imagine having twins at 40 would be insanely hard. I was kinda shocked when I found out my grandma had my dad at 42. I've always felt the ideal age for me personally would have been 28 to 33..Sadly, I'm now 35 😂 I also notice that something else people don't take into account are the obesity rates when they're discussing women's ticking clock. Being overweight will usually affect fertility. From what I've read, overweight women tend to have much more difficulty getting pregnant. One of my older coworkers was telling me a couple years back that I need to "hurry up" because her own daughter who is 1 year older than I, started having issues with fertility around age 31 or 32. Well her daughter, who I've met, looks to be nearly 300 lbs 😐

Good luck. That is not an easy decision. I truly hope it works out for you ❤️

It's very commendable to take the route that to me, appears the more difficult one. You've done well, but every choice has a sacrifice.

You made the right decision. I had my first child at 35 and second at 37- they bring more joy and meaning to my life that I have never imagined was possible. I have experienced an unexpected renaissance in my midlife.

@@lucydoe1334 Glad it worked it out for you :)

I don't think there is a special brand of cruelty for women who prioritize children, it is just the reality of economics. Everyone wants to get the most productivity they can manage. Men become 'disposable' and lose value in a workforce too. But because we can abuse our bodies for a longer period of time, it is different.

Not to mention there is such a thing as regretting having children. Nobody talks about that.

Many people don't like children who aren't their's. Also, the way western society treats children makes them intolerable to be around

What a self-indulged cop out..

@@italiantraditionalcatholic2390 No such thing. No one owes you children you will never see or contribute to. You're selfish because you impose on others.

@@italiantraditionalcatholic2390 I have cousins in another state (USA) who are Catholic and they are early thirties. Most Catholics I know are (sorry) full of shut because they don't follow any of the rules but will insist that they are going to heaven. Blah blah blah. I barely know these cousins, but I heard they adopted a crack baby -- worked through the issues -- and then 3 months later, another unwanted newborn they heard about. If you're going to make me listen to your Catholic bs, then at least be like my cousins -- adopt crack babies and then we'll talk. I really admired them practicing what they preach. Rare.

Thank you.

Too old tbh dont bring in a deformed kid for selfish reasons

So not having a child hey. Will you give 40% of your income to families in poverty who are having children then? Or will you enjoy your child free, responsibilty free lifestyle to buy all the lavish crap you have all the freedoms to buy?

Ive always taught the same. I would love to have a child, I already attempted once with a not so quality choice partner...Sadly it didnt make it. I was very excited to have someone of my own, someone that would love and need me. And I can love them back, but i always go back to your last sentence, thats extremely selfish of me. Not only that, its difficult to find someone that isn't so selfish or self centered to have a family. Times have changed and we should just accept it. There is no love or empathy, just the next day

@@glenbenton4855 I believe that there definitely is love ❤️ just start spreading it around you and it will “infect” others 😃

@@agathles You know, I don't want to be that "but i do" person but man, lot of people just take advantage of that and abuse you. Its the tale as old time but, I am tired of suffering due to my good heart and the ill intent of others just looking to see how they can step on you. Not to be negative

Poor economic times are not a new thing. One can always say "right now" is not a good time to have children. Financial stability is never guaranteed. Have children People! Love them and teach them your wisdom so they can carry on when you're gone!

They need more servants in the coming years.

It’s a welfare state. Survival Has never been easier. Have fucking kids.

ppl had kids during hungers world wars colonization etc our generations just lazy entitled and dont care

@@dennisdill5771 There's always a risk. A price to pay for failure. Many families have failed and they paid the price. Some of it heart breaking. Too many people have a Disneyland image of marriage and preach to "just do it". If youre not financially stable, dont get married. You'll pass the seeds of failure onto your children or set the family up in life or death situations.

Thank you.

Exactly. That band aid baby or the golden goose. I have known 2 women that purposely got pregnant to get out of going to work or doing something they don't want to have to do. They lied to their boyfriend and the other one lied to her husband, went off the pill, didn't tell him and jumped on him when she knew she was ovulating. What gets me is their vile, manipulative plan works. They get pregnant no problem and get out of whatever it is they did not want to do. Yet, there are many women who would love a baby and plan on a baby because they actually want one, never use him or her as a pawn in their pathetic life and they cannot get pregnant to save their lives. I will never understand that one.

Going by your number than 90% of parents are drunks, druggies and psychos.... Which is plainly not true unless you live in a bad neighborhood. In which case your numbers are not representative. If you argument with numbers, give us the courtesy of using accurate data.

@@lauravergot9995 you’d be shocked how common child abuse is these days.

It’s called discipline!! No one has the discipline in the heat of the moment to use protection so most of us were accidents.

I was force fed that i must want a carrer and that raising kids was a lowly position. I was told that if my ambition was to be a mom and raise kids that was a lazy, lowly, stupid choice.

Beautiful quote. The question then becomes how do you as an individual define your own ambitions and your own greatness? From a very young age, I was discouraged from dating, discouraged from getting married, discouraged from having children... by people who genuinely cared about me and thought they were helping me. I love to work and I don't think I could ever be fully satisfied staying home and raising a family, but many many women are and I definitely think it is a worthwhile aim to pursue if you can be fulfilled by it. But by the same token, I don't think I could ever be 100% satisfied with my life if I pursued only my career and never had a family. My marriage is the most fundamentally important thing in my life, and now that I am pregnant with my first child, I already feel my priorities shifting. I cannot imagine ever intentionally choosing not to have this child or this family, even if it meant giving up my career. Luckily, I found a man to be my partner in life who wants nothing more in the world than to stay home and care for our children so I can continue to pursue my higher education and my career.

the problem is a good chunk of really successful people were REALLY lucky. And then they have the nerve to say, just do your best and you'll be successful too, when they themselves just got there by chance.

@@jebes909090 yap, that's true. Having the right ideas and being smart you can still get stuck in a lot of places

i really like that quote. it's short, yet so clear and important

Nothing. 😎

It potentially suggests a failing society.

@@whenpigsfly8178 Not even close. A successful society would include people who want kids and don’t want kids. There are places for all. 😋

@@LucareonVee No, if not enough people have children the population ages and collapses

@@AlexanderLittlebears With 8 billion people on the planet, that would be a good thing. 😋

Not only do you exist, you are also doing great. There is no formula to life and we should stop searching for one.

Same here, I'll be 40 next year and I'm still deciding if I want a puppy.

Well step children are a way to have children so, God bless

9:32

I'm childfree and so is my husband. It's even better if you can be stepchild-free!

That is the best point out of the motherhood conversation. All women should be financially independent before getting married and having kids, society today is not conducive to stay at home parents

exactly and all these men fighting for old gender roles are delusional

@@thereisnosanctuary6184 It was always broken

@@lukegibson9410 Wait so are you saying if i make a child with a woman and then just fuck off, its the womans fault alone?

@@Swiss_Cynic yes, that's what he's saying. with the rise in gender equality also comes a rise in subjugation. a lot of men are extremely insecure and triggered by the fact that women are empowered to do what they want now instead of being forced to get married and become baby factory live-in maids. let's just hope society continues to slide in the direction of equality rather than back into female slavery.

Problem is us men will not and not in increasing numbers accept women that age out and learn. We won't give our Prime based off what women find attractive to take care of and provide for women that squandered theirs. We aren't virgin or nothing, well some are, but we want your fertile prime or its not worth the risks.

You hit the absolute nail on the head. The funny thing is that all these women are prioritizing their education and career so they can be enslaved to an employer who will throw them away when they loose their value, due to age or other causes. I truly hope that these women spend the end of their lives childless and alone, so it can serve as a message to the rest of society that utilitarianism is nonsense. All your degrees, investments, and property is worthless. Your employer will throw you away in a heartbeat. Family is everything.

As another young women working in a very technical field I share your sentiment. My career is nothing more than a means for creating a stable environment, and if I someday have children, if it is in there best interest, I will be walking away from it.

@THE ZOLDICS yes. How the hell did you read what I said and take the exact opposite of what I said as my intent? That's what I said. Women want our Prime and young men are walking away because it's a raw deal.

@@mosesking2923 that's kinda harsh on women, but there is going to need to be a moment where something is understood more widely by them yeah.

Isn't childless correct? Like you don't call homeless people home free... Asking cos eng not my native.

@@kiroshki I've mostly heard "childfree" so I think that's the widely used term

@@kiroshki But you day lactose free for lactose intolerant. Childless is general. Yes, childfree people are childless. But childfree adds meaning. They are free of children, because children would be a bab choice for them, a burden.

@@kiroshki childfree is the term used for people choosing not to have kids. If you search in Google you will find a lot about it

@@kiroshki Not the same :) Childfree means they are free of children. They are not less of anything, in fact having children would make their life lesser. Homeless people mostly tend to want homes but struggle to access them, hence the home*less* part. Homeless people can also call themselves nomads, gypsies etc. They crave the freedom of no fixed abode so they would be deemed, in a way, homefree ...just different terminology is used.

It never was. People just had no birth control, hence the high number of pregnancies.

@@zuzanazuscinova5209 so ban birth control

@@zuzanazuscinova5209 exactly people act like everyone wanted to have tons of kids before but there was barely any choice for most people given their was no birth control

@@Coastpsych_fi99 and you forget that a lotta people just go along to get along. peer pressured to have a family.

Well what happens when there isn't enough young people to support the retired population?

I'm 28 with no kids.

@@blakkwaltz NICE!!!

Here are the cold hard facts : At 30 add your 'body count' to your age. The number you arrive at will be your percentage of never marrying. 30 years old , bedded 35 guys, 65% chance you will be alone from here on out. Body count : How many guys you've had sex with. BJs must be included in body count.

32 with no kids and no man.. but happy. I'll adopt one day.

Halla one right here ......shout from Johannesburg!!!!

I'm honestly sick of this argument. Do you think your parents had it easier? Or their parents? The more you go back in time the worse things were, yet still people were having children, and many too. Hell, my grandparents had 6 children starting from when they were younger than 20. During a time of war and unrest. I'm not american. Everybody is waiting for the "perfect time" to have kids and I have no idea where this notion came from. Ask every parent and they will tell you, no time is ever perfect and you're never ready. It's just something you do and hope for the best. Hopeful risktaking has really declined in modern culture, everyone's always putting things on hold to wait for the perfect opportunity, perfect person, etc. Jeez...

@@dead7781 My ancestors weren’t facing potential extinction due to global warming. 😋

@@LucareonVee No but they where facing things arguably worse. World Wars, nuclear fallouts, economic chaos, famine, disease without any modern medicine, etc. And honestly, your solution to global warming is to have less/no children? How is that gonna solve anything? This just goes to show how easily people today just want to quit. Instead of thinking of solutions on how to solve these problems, like so many bright minds are, most just want to give up. "Screw it, I'm not gonna have children". But nobody is quitting because it's the "right thing to do", it's all just an excuse to be selfish and lazy. Every person I've met who speaks like this spends most of their time working meaningless jobs, drinking themselves to death on their free time, play video games the whole day, and just being incredibly useless. "There's no point in being productive if the world is ending. Let's just be nihilistic and give up on humanity. Let's just engage in hedonism, even if it's making us miserable deep down". Give me a break...

​@@LucareonVee😅 tell em

​@@LucareonVee they were facing invading armies which is an actual threat.

Woman finds out life is not easy

@@lonzolotto man finds out that he can’t control woman by using his alter ego (the god he made up). Has a meltdown on the internet lmao.

@get busy child You have no answers Just propaganda

It’s a super easy answer. Men can simply wait longer. Women lose 90% of their eggs by 30. 35 is geriatric pregnancy. Men aren’t under this time crunch from a biology perspective. This is the science, like it or not. Women peak in the dating marketplace in their early to mid 20’s. Men like women with less baggage, better attitudes, no kids in tow, and that still have all their youth, beauty, and fertility. Like it or not this is reality. Men are judged more on money, status, experience, maturity. Looks matter but a man’s looks don’t fade nearly as fast as women’s do (on average). Men as a result peak in their mid 30’s.

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 1. Sperm quality also declines over time 2. Statistically men die sooner 3. As a woman in my early twenties, I don't want to date 30-something dudes

@@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920 You don't have to be so aggressive with your wording but what you say is true.

@@epicwoad8999 we need to stop tiptoeing around these issues. I would much rather have someone tell me the truth, even if I don’t like their tone, than lie to my face and mislead me. Things aren’t good right now between men and women, the data proves it. Shooting the messenger is a bad look.

I bet you can't tell the difference between society and genetic need for human survival..

⁠@@joshknight8973 The survival of any species requires members who procreate and those who don’t. We have 8 billion people on the planet. That number needs to go down.

@@joshknight8973 we have too many people as is, willbe just fine

@@lillianp-yj6yx It takes 80 years for all generations to die and 40 years to make enough children to replace them. Will be just fine if people keep reproducing.

@@lillianp-yj6yxno it won’t! When all those people start to get old and there is not a young generation in a sufficient number to be the work force and keep the economy going. Those who have no children and no money to pay for private retirement, then we will have a big problem!

that sounds terrible :( are you located in the USA?

My experience (60+ mother & grandmother) is that we can always find a way to afford the things that really matter to us. So unless you are truly destitute, don't let a modest income or lifestyle stop you from becoming a parent. I can recall some pretty lean times raising my son and yet I have never once regretted it. We always found a way and he turned out very well.

Jordan peterson is very biased and traditionalist in these aspect and can only see one view when it comes to child bearing despite the fact that he prides himself on being open minded. Sometimes I pity his wife. He's one of those people who is so used to being the smartest person in the room, he becomes closed minded to external perspective on things.

funny how poor people have more kids

@@nancybatch7007 That is a disgusting way of encouraging people to raise children in povery.

You're not alone, believe me. I didn't have the physical or emotional energy left for kids by the time I was grown, and possibly owing to the dysfunction of my family of origin, haven't had the urge to reproduce. Life's complex, and there are many ways of being a mother that don't involve giving birth. There will never be a shortage of orphans and neglected young people in this world - something my teaching job showed me. On the flip side of things, I 've seen so many women who've poured their everything in to their kids, only to be deserted by them, and are left feeling confused, hollow and so far out of touch with themselves that don't know what to do with their freedom. Peterson fails to factor any of that in.

If its any comfort, I will never have children either.

Never say never. God has blessed many women with children later in life. You may feel tired, but if you find the right husband he will share the burden with you and make it easier for you.

@@ccrow3355 Most people don’t believe in traditional marriages anymore. The divorce rate is astonishing. What happened to being bound to death by grace and love in God’s presence?

@@ExplodingVolcano777 like I said, find the right husband

Fair point but the bitterness and hostility within your answer is very detectable. Having grown up my entire childhood as one of three children being raised by a single mother, I understand the difficulties of such a situation. And, I, like many others, am disturbed with the percentage of non-present fathers, so it is understandable why for many women have their guard up. For everyone wanting to build a family, finding a proper Partner is not easy. Moreover, once a potential Partner is found, developing and maintaining the relationship long term is incredibly challenging. But, my ultimate advice is, even with all of this considered, not to stop trying. While children do grow up in a family with a single mother due to the father choosing not to be around, there is another significant factor that contributes to the number of single parent homes. Many people in relationships nowadays, men and women alike, do not try nearly hard enough to overcome obstacles and challenges with the appropriate level of determination to stick together. People throw in the towel much too quickly. And, this comes mostly at the expense of the children. People need to have the fact consistently reinforced that having and raising a child will add that much more challenge to any relationship, which is normal, but with the appropriate efforts and cooperation, a happy and loving family is not just possible, but necessary and endlessly rewarding. But, too many people are forgetting that once a relationship involves a child, the responsibility for both parents to maintain the relationship grows tremendously. The situation mostly stops being about the parents and both parents have an obligation to the child to maximize their efforts towards cooperation and maintaining a healthy relationship and household. Ultimately, I share all of this because, while there is merit to your comment, its tone indicates that you may have had relationships or other experiences that have caused your hesitation and aggravation with trying to build a relationship and family. But, it is important to try your best to recover and keep trying when you are able. It is true that, with three children and a single mother in the household, our family struggled a lot growing up. Yet, my mother undoubtedly considers here children to be her top accomplishment and she has always made it clear that her love for her children fulfill her happiness and keep her heart beating. While all women do not need to feel that same way, it only makes sense that having children is a top priority for many women and can be one of the most rewarding aspects of their lives. So, despite all the challenges of our time, and all of the risk involved, the reward involved is worth it. And if it helps, it is still the case that many men desire to build a happy family as well. So, while I can understand why women can feel hesitant and defeated at times following difficult relationships or other challenges, I always consider it worth it to take the necessary time and steps to recover from bad relationships, or other experiences, as needed, then always keep looking forward. For anyone willing to put in those consistent efforts, the reward is possible and of incomparable value.

This is what people don't get. I've seen so many women give up careers to be wives and moms and them get cheated on and left by their husband's. I will never give up my career and will always be financially independent because I'm not losing that to conform to what society keeps telling me I should do.

@@Megan-19 exactly. Even if I do ever get married, I'll always make sure I have an income so I'm not screwed if I become widowed or divorced.

Many women end up having children with the expectation that the man will provide and society pressures him to be the breadwinner for life or looks at him in disgust. On the other hand women are pressured to have children but many guys could be violent, or cheaters or abusive to you/children. A lot of people should not be parents.

@@Megan-19 if you don't want a husband or children, that's on you and it's perfectly fine. However, you make up only a small percentage of women who don't want a husband or children. He's talking about majority of these women will be miserable or full of regret when they exceed beyond the age of childbearing. Also, my mom was a single mother of 5 children and all 5 of us came out perfectly fine. She doesn't regret having any of us and all of us are glad we were born, even with being a single mother. There's nothing attractive about feminism and Jordan spends quite a bit of time dismantling it on a regular basis

This. 31 F. Same here.

Same! I never found a partner worth having kids with. Then at 30 years old my kidneys started failing very fast. That option is off the table for me now. I feel like it is a no win situation. I get criticism for being childless and told i will die miserable. Yet, I'd also get criticism if i had made the choice to have a child knowing my partner wasnt going to be a good parent. I'm fine with my life. I have friends and family that i enjoy spending time with. I am financially comfortable. I like JP but i wish he would understand its not so black and white.

If you're so picky that you're eliminating yourself from the gene pool, then you're too picky for your own good.

Same. 37.

You listened to all the feminists 😂😂😂 enjoy growing old with your cats. You overlooked all the good men over the years. This is your karma.

ALWAYS

Missed the target.

To any woman reading this and is already offended, watch the full video and understand

How did you conclude that from this video?

Well because it simply is womens responsibility and it is true. And if you feel guilty about that well probably because its true and when you did something wrong or had bad priorities in your life then you should accept the fact and take the consequences. But its easier to say its not my fault but someone elses. I see many young women acting like they should stay young forever.. they hit the wall and yay another single childless 30s. Thats just fact.

Society insists on having kids young so you don't come to your senses and realize that having kids is for society's benefit, only. No one asks to be born.

We've got overflowing prisons to prove pregnancy is a joke to most!!

Exactly very good point of view.

50.1% got trauma? 😐

You’re talking about a minority not the rule

I could be a good mother even with my personal trauma and challenges. I just don’t want to spend 18+ years of my life living round someone else’s clock. I can’t even stick in a job for too long. I didn’t choose to be born so I just want to experience life for myself through my eyes at my pace with all my senses without worrying someone is depending on me and my choices ✍🏻

Children have an amazing ability to force people to grow up and be less selfish because someone else relies on you to live. One of the major issues in modern western culture is that we value being young and free with no responsibilities and, ultimately no limits/hedonism. I look fondly on my youth, but as a 40 year old father of two with a loving wife; my life is infinitely better and I’m a better, more responsible person (and thus better for society) than when I was in my 20s. We need to encourage all parties to be more personally responsible with our choices in life, and get people to grow up.

@@lt.2992 at least you're honest about being selfish.

@@BENR8108 not always... plenty of selfish and useless parents out there...

Yup.. people never recognise there is alternate to incel.. femcel. Annoying that always incels get the heat and femcels are forgotten. 😔

Men don't become naturally infertile with age, unlike women.

Because men can father a child at an older age. Women can’t really do that so it puts time constraints on them whereas men are not under that same kind of pressure.

@@outdoorsman909 if a man has a child at age 60 he will only be around for a very short time in that child’s life, if a man has a child any older, he will likely die when that child is a teenager and not be there to raise him

@@outdoorsman909 men shouldn’t have kids past 35. Not only do men die younger than women there’s also increased risk of them having children with disabilities such as Down syndrome, etc.

@@marianakalfigervi6024 women have a small fertility window for healthy natural pregnancy. Biologically from mid teens until 35, socially accepted from 18 until 35, otherwise miscarriages, autism, disability, and ADHD become risk factors for the child as they develop in the womb due to declining fertility in a woman.

can you please tell some advice to have kids at 38. Did you take vitamins or just live and let nature do the job or went under special care to get pregnant quickly?

@@alejandrarios4290 nothing special really. Think I had to lose some weight because we tried the year before without success. So, lost maybe 20 lb and then did the usual procreative sex. Lol

@@alejandrarios4290 every doctor tells you to just have regular sex. apparently regular sex every week for two years increases your chances by around 90%

You sound very smart and cautious :)

@@leedlbagginshield8492 thanks - you would be right about that. A lot of women my age delayed children. We all had to raise ourselves and didn’t want to do that to the next generation

Equals a miserable old lonely women 😂 love it ❤

Well wish you the best but come let us know how it is at 45 lol

@@VeinySausage It's not always what you believe. At 45, I was able to feel whole again after an unimaginable divorce. I had to rebuild my life from scratch after she took everything. For those that can make it work, I salute you. For those that say - thanks, but no thanks - I salute you, too.

Bingo. Me too. Every year that goes by without kids I’m happier. 43 now. Living the dream.

@@VeinySausage lol I’m nearly 44 and literally happier than I was at 34, when I first decided I didn’t want kids. These guys are totally invested in proving that women aren’t happy without kids…so weird. And I could care less about a career-life isn’t about that either. Always March to the beat of your own drummer!! ✨✨✨🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

Let's see how you're doing in 20 years and then 20 more after that.

Nope you clearly need to dedicate your life to a man and have all the children. Jordan Peterson just told you, he is very smart. He says stuff and you just know it's right, even if the sentence makes no sense, or is completely out of context, and is filled with presuppositions of what all women are lied to about.

I just made the same comment as you. Every discussion on this topic seems to imply women make this decision for career purposes. All of the women I know that are childless didn't make this decision for their careers. Peterson says the same thing in every interview on this topic

That's your choice and that's perfectly fine, you probably have some good reasons. But I have asked two women why they want to remain childless and it more or less boils down to their disdain for men. They had a bad dad or ex-boyfriend and they extrapolate that experience to all men. I definitely feel this when dating women, where I'm a bad person by default. I eventually give up trying to form a connection with these women because they are so guarded and pessimistic. The experience is not fun. I want to point out also that economic status isn't really a good reason considering places like Sweden has the most safety nets and yet they have even less children. It shows that regardless of a good economic situation women still wouldn't have children. Women having less children is probably more of a multifaceted cause including obesity, pharmaceuticals, and culture.

@@AnelaEllaEh 95% of men do accept that. We're not making you do anything. It's just a shame that you use your newfound education, wealth, and equity all for yourselves instead of the next generation (something men cannot do without women). It's just human nature to be selfish and that's 100% understandable. But the tragedy is, it's 100% morally accepted.

Women need to prepare for their own change of heart. There are some women that do living happily every after without children. But, the majority eventually change their mind. Women who have prepared for the possibility of changing their mind are better of if it does happen.

Yep. Having babies? NO THANKS. too much like having to trust a man.

life insurance - thats exactly why it exists

🤡🤡

you are one of a kinda, cause a lot of your peers are chasing the seed of someone who is not gonna commit

That’s a HUGE part of it.

For me it's that I don't see it as being financially possible.

They’re too expensive

Children are not commodities. They are people who will suffer in this world and die. That is not life-affirming; that is immoral.

nahh u would look much cuter taking care of my seeds

@@lordgreed1 comments like these is why dudes keep saying having kids is so great. Y'all don't even take care of your own spawn. Being a dad sounds great indeed 👍🏻

Outside perspectives, especially when educated and experienced, can often be more accurate than any other.

I can tell by the fact it actually discusses the issue instead of talking in circles.

Lol😂😂

and so they wait, not realizing they will never not be confused.

@@yamerojones Still better than having the child.

All hail feminism. Never have children. We defeat men and the patriarchy together. Never let a man run you. Lots of love from russia

Same. I'm 45, never want to get married or have children. To each their own. Get asked a lot if I'm married or have kids... when I reply "no" that usually ends the conversation, which is pretty sad. As if that's all women know what to talk about with one another. 🤨

​@@Aleksandr-no5ugahaha that's funny. Yea Russia thanking the single moms rn

What a loser.

Wishing you the best!

At what point did either of them stop the video and say "Kelly Smith should have [insert your trigger]"? Never. This isn't about you. Stop being emotional. He's speaking in general.

@@johnnyBrwn of course he's speaking in general, but anyone can comment on the video and share their perspective/experience. Following your line of thinking, this person's comment isn't about you, so why would you reply to it? Also, how is this person being emotional? You seem to be way more triggered than them.

@@aleksandrasuso2043 Nice recursion trick, I refute her assertion underscoring how she's making a general statement self referential then you steal that and apply to me but your logic is flawed. I didn't refute her by using myself as a case study as she did. She's emotional because she took Peterson's claim personally, hence her self- reference.

@@johnnyBrwn Mansplaining at its finest. I still don't get what's wrong with sharing a personal story on a RU-vid video, considering that the person never even undermined any of the points made by Peterson. Over and out.

Is that what she wants?