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How much did they bribe the wiki AND the critics?

I'm not sure you saw Space Gollum Jesus...

+deltahalo241 who's space gollum Jesus?

+deltahalo241 are you talking about the last of the time lords with the master?

W.A.Q. Productions Yes, the whole prayer saving the Doctor, it was a really bad finale and it's such a shame as the two parts before it had been excellent.

only thing that could of had reprocussions would be if Smith was still immortal and showed up later as a really bad guy, but Lady Me would have seen him surely so can't of done.

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Lenadro diCrapio

Yes, soon.

If you only consider the physical manifestation the threat, yes, but the true threat was her attitude, her way of seeing the world, her lack of coping with her immortality. Which was explored in dialog. I don't think it was a great episode either, but it was an ok episode. Definitely something different and variety is a good thing.

@Jemima Yawwwnnn so more of that boring "Character Psyche" that was abundant throughout Series 8, no thanks I like action and aliens.

@blackham7 then don't watch doctor who it's not an action series it's not James Bond

It was until Series 9 came along?

Jemima1377 Her sudden shift was alright enough, but the way she portrayed it (Maisie Williams) crushes this scene. She is a strong actress and every other performance in the Series was good. But this one was atrocious and cringy.

You know this was written by a woman, a woman who used to write for Torchwood. That makes sense to me, that series was awful.

Still better than the "I'm the man who's going to save your lives" speech though.

+Danny O'Gara I loved that speech

MaddoxProductions1 I agree. At least this episode had some ideas (however badly they were executed), whereas Voyage had none.

Mayo Tango131 Actually some of her episodes for Torchwood were the best that show produced. "Out of Time" is a classic in my view. I think the issue is that her style doesn't fit well with Doctor Who. It's as though someone tapped her on the shoulder and reminded her to include an alien threat.

No, he expends his immortality upon closing the gate. They sort of explain it of handed at the end of the episode. It's assumed that he remains mortal.

@@kevinqagoncillo No, it was found the Doctor was lying about that. That guy has immortality as well. The point he was trying to prove that he is living every day like it could be his last

@@arcanewarrior863 Then what happened to him? Why didn't we see him at the end of the universe if he has the same kind of immortality as Ashildr?

Arcane Warrior we don’t know that

I don't think ti was terrible... it was weak compared to the other episodes but It's not terrible

yeah, it was terrible

i just remembered something, Ashildr was at the end of time, since she was immortal. But what about Sam Swift? Where the hell did he go?

Got into a fight with one of the McLeods. Hard to survive that.

Yep

12 doctor episodes are all like that in my opinion

+Tim Sudin personally I found series 8 terrible with exception of like 2 episodes and series 9 excellent with except of like 2 episodes: In series 9 "Sleep No More" was dreadful I also found this episode a bite meh... It had many good points but found the plot tool of that lion guy weak thus making the episode meh Overall series 9 was excellent especially "Heaven Sent"

Agreed. This doctor does have some cool moments though, but this ain't one

So wrong

I think the CGI is okay. The rest of it isn't. Ashildr was good in concept at least.

I felt that all the episodes in Series 8 and 9 felt rushed.

+Gallifroozle Same here

+Gallifroozle Thought I was the only one who picked it up.

+Gallifroozle Series 9 was the least rushed ever. Most of the stories were multi-parters so it was far more slow-paced than usual for New Who (which is good, because I get dizzy with the usual whiz it goes along).

Danny O'Gara If you look at the RTD, they managed to do so much in 45 minutes, and it doesn't feel rushed at all, in fact it feels like an hour. Sleep No More was so rushed it didn't have a conclusuion, even Before the Flood, the 2nd part, was rushed, because so much time was wasted on useless character "development" drabble.

J Da Weirdly enough, I also stopped watching with this episode. I recently continued watching and yes, it did get better.

Yeah more or less. The Ashildr/Me storyline was always stupid and thankfully didn't progress beyond that season. I was never really a fan of Peter Capaldi but Jodie Whitaker seems better at least in comparison. 12's time had two really redeeming qualities: 1 we finally got a proper resolution to the River Song storyline. That was pretty much the perfect ending ever for that character and if they bring her back again I'm gonna be REALLY pissed. And 2 we finally got a resolution on the Harold Saxon Master. For most of 12's tenure we had a female Master called Missy. If you've watched this far you know all about her. For most of her tenure on the show we knew nothing about what caused the Master to become Missy with the most likely explanation being that the Master's condition in the End of Time caused him to regenerate. A big theme of series 10 was the Doctor trying to turn an imprisoned Missy to good. His companions in that series were Bill Potts a university student of his and Nardole a former aid to River Song who she basically ordered to keep an eye on the Doctor after their last night together. Last 24 year long night together that is. After Missy seemed to turn good, the Doctor tested it by having her reply to a distress call from a 400 mile long colony ship experiencing time dilation due to proximity to a black hole. The lowest floor was where the people were converting themselves into Cybermen to survive as it was Mondasian colony ship. The mastermind behind the plot was the Harold Saxon Master in disguise from after the End of Time. The Doctor determined that after getting back to Gallifrey the Time Lords fixed the Master's condition and kicked him off the planet. The Master eventually landed on the colony ship but got stuck after he tried to go too fast while leaving and burned out his dematerialization circuit. The Doctor commented that the Master never could drive. At the end of the adventure, the Doctor blew up an entire floor to stop most of the Cybermen to give the survivors time to find a more long term solution with Nardole's help. The battle caused the Doctor to regenerate, but not before he had one more adventure with the First Doctor and an ancestor of the Brigadier. Missy provided the Master with a new dematerialization circuit decided to stand with the Doctor and stabbed her past self in the back in order to force his regeneration into her, but made it so that he would have enough time to leave in his TARDIS before regenerating. Unwilling to stand with the Doctor in any of his lives, the Master killed Missy with his Laser Screwdriver (from Series 3), supposedly disabling her regeneration and Missy died redeemed more or less. However, the new showrunner has ruined this perfect ending for the character of the Master and brought him back in Series 12 in a new male even more insane incarnation. The ONLY redeeming thing I think the guy can do about that one is to make this Master a previously unseen incarnation between the Saxon and Missy incarnations. We never saw the Saxon Master regenerate, we just knew that he was gonna and we have no explanation as of yet for how Missy supposedly survived to become this new Master.

@@WarGrowlmon18 I'm happy for you or sorry that happened.

@@jda4111 No it's good. The River Song wrap up was particularly perfect 😁😁😁. Especially since it fulfilled River's last prophecy before she died: their final night on Darillium at the Singing Towers. The episode gave us a stark look at River's character when the Doctor isn't around because for most of the adventure she had no idea it was him as River thought that 11 was his final incarnation. Revealed that she had a lot of husbands (the episode was called The Husbands of River Song) and she pretended to fall in love with men to manipulate them. Left in question her true feelings for the Doctor until this one incredible scene where she admitted she really did love him 🤩🤩🤩 but thought that he didn't love her back which she was fine with 😭😭😭. She gave a really great speech about loving the Doctor only to realize right afterwards that he was standing right next to her 😂😂😂. The episode revealed that the Doctor kept putting off their night on Darillium to avoid the end of their time together. After they crashed in front of the Singing Towers he finally gave into the inevitable. However they still got a happy ending: turns out a night on Darillium equals 24 years and they were there all night long.

@@jda4111 One of the best moments was in Peter's last episode Twice Upon a Time. It featured an adventure with both the First and Twelfth Doctors as they both refused to regenerate and got caught up in an adventure together. In one scene, the Doctor's companion Bill Potts asked the First Doctor the real reason he left Gallifrey in the first place. He explained that the true reason is he was seeking an answer to a question of his own: the universe is filled with both good and evil. Under all of the circumstances evil should always win and good should always lose but its the other way around. The Doctor wanted to know why, if there was some force or being out there that maintained the balance. Bill realized that none of the Doctors ever realized the truth: that it was them that kept evil from prevailing.

They Must've DESPISED Series 1.

Burn witch burn!!!

Wouldn't have worked anyway she is immortal

@@thedoctor1263 She isn't actually, she wont ever die from age but she can still die from other things such as being cremated or just stabbed.

he is immortal, but he only survived long enough to fall into a bottomless plothole

***** You never know, we might see him again...

Nah, it says in the full episode, that the energy was drained in order to close the rift.

๖DRëaM -Oғ-๖CяυEʟτу I think the Doctor said he was lying about that - but what if he was lying again, about lying (a double bluff)?

James The Great Lol, idk.

It was at it's peak decades ago.

You mean the two Doctors that always jumped around like hyperactive children? When the show had flatulent ETs and teddy bear blobs of fat and was as campy as the Batman and Robin movie? Usually people complain that it's too dark and mature now.

Show was at its peak way back in 1974-76.

I disagree, yes there have been some childish episodes, but there are some like Listen, Mummy on the Orient Express, Flatline, The Witches Familiar, the Zygon Two Parter, and Heaven Sent that are much more mature.

Don't forget the ninth doctor

You know what's funny about cringe? Everytime i see someone use this word for things that are just a bit ridiculous at the most, it makes me cringe. And by that i mean that i'm actually just annoyed by this word at a level that i started using it sarcastically. Anyway, don't take this too personally. It's just that your comment was direct enough for me to not get in a misunderstanding when replying to it.

But is he immortal? No, apparently. That’s alright.

Bit of a late reply but I'd disagree with you on this. Personally thought this episode was alright, not great but just okay. However Sleep No More was atrocious and I found Hell Bent to be the worst episode of the New Who run up to that point in time. However, the absolute worst nowadays is a toss up between Orphan 55 and The Timeless Child. Some real stinky episodes lol

His brother wanted to act as well but he was too cowardly to perform in front of an audience.

Three Words. Space Gollum Jesus.

Three more words, sleep no more

Brandon Hudson Sleep No More wasn't the greatest episode, but I think it's better than 'Love and Monsters' and 'Last of the Time Lords'

Brandon Hudson I didnt think that episode was too bad, the ending gave me the creeps...I just wish that it actually had a conclusion with a second episode. Maybe it will be a plot point later on.

TheJackFroster wel i found it really boring and uninteresting. for me, i found the woman who lived had a few good moments here and there. sleep no more was dull from begining to end imo

Is it really? I think it's just the ending that's badly done.

This SEASON was awful.

Steven Moffat

People prefer watching Rose whine about her mum while pining over a 900 year old alien rather than actual Doctor Who for some reason.

Speak for yourself, I found it tedious and poorly written. Buffy did that sort of thing better.

Not to mention that the same RTD commented that was inspired by Buffy and Smallville for his "Story Arcs"

+Mayo Tango131 I knew about the Buffy one, didn't know Smallville was an inspiration too. Makes sense, though.

Uploading clips from the previous seasons has been a thing since this channel started. Besides, they upload scenes that many people love (not this one though) which gets them millions of views and thousands of subscribers each time (just look at the most popular videos on this channel. All famous scenes from past episodes). So you want them to take away what increases their channel's popularity.

MaddoxProductions1 I don't think the BBC are aloud to advertise Big Finish. BBC is publicly founded (or something like that) and the law says they can't advertise stuff that is not owned specifically by them (or something like that) and Big Finish is an independent company. I have not explain this well enough, I hope somebody out there can explain it better, but it's the reason you don't see audio dramas on this channel or any audio drama stuff (like gadgets) being advertise by the BBC.

MaddoxProductions1 As I said, I don't really know. I hope somebody will explain it better. But I do know for certain that they can't do it with Big Finish.

OK,OK 😒Sorry😳

I never liked 12 but 13 seems okay at least compared to 12. I didn't like 11 at first either but he really grew on me as time went on. Did you know that Peter Capaldi played 3 different characters across the various Doctor Who TV shows. One is obviously the Doctor.

PS: the one redeeming thing I can think of for 12 is that the writers gave us true closure on the River Song storyline and the Harold Saxon Master storyline. For 12's reign most of the time we were dealing with a female incarnation of the Master called Missy but the Saxon Master did return for 2 episodes from AFTER the last time we saw him. It actually seemed like the perfect conclusion for the Master/Missy character too but the new showrunner went and ruined it with an even more insane incarnation of the Master in the new series. The only POSSIBLE way the showrunner guy can redeem that one is by making this new Master between the Saxon incarnation and the Missy one instead of after Missy. We do know how and why the Saxon Master regenerated now but it never happened on-screen so its really only an assumption that he became Missy.

You preferred this to the Zygon invasion? Seriously?

The Zygon two parter annoys me as it feels like a really poor imitation of a global urban thriller and it was so forced and pointless, the bits that worked in those episodes is just the core conceptual elements - good zygons living among us, splinter group rebelling, what do we do. part 2 is better because it shrugged off most of that faux thriller and was just propelled by ideas and questions. RTD era was much better with this genre. Woman Who Lived was supposed to be a quieter contemplative episode about two characters, the villain plot was obviously secondary and i didnt mind that. This climax was a little weak but I can forgive it because its clearly not the point of the episode. It was a fun episode to watch without trying and failing to be something more

+thejellyfisha fine

haha damn right

+thejellyfisha yeah yeah yeah