Funnily enough, I do think Stardust actually killed the Federation-- just not immedeatly. It ended Earth's ability to feed itself, forcing it to rely on the colonies, and once the Titans grip on space fell... Well, you saw to what lengths the Feddies were going to with the starvation problem in ZZ.
Reminder: 0083 had two different directors. That's why the 2nd half of 0083 feels so different from the 1st half, and why the Nina love plot came out of nowhere.
I hoped that upon learning of the atrocities committed by the Titans, kou would steal the gp 03 Dendrobium, if they had it stored on earth, and fight on the side of the A.E.U.G against the Titans.
He got Nina in the end and that's all he wanted. He was sick of the fighting. Don't know if I can agree though. I'd rather join the Titans than have Gato's sloppy seconds....
Makes you wonder if the Delaz Fleet never succeeded with Operation Stardust and the colony was not dropped, would we still get the Zeta Gundam series (UC timeline wise) or would it change dramatically (i.e. no Titans or AEUG)
I know this is a late response, history would change dramatically as well as the development of MS but the emergence of Cyber-Newtypes would either be delayed or they wouldn't exist. Gato and the rest of the Zeon Remnants would be able to take refuge in Axis perhaps others would still conduct in guerilla warfare or resort to piracy in order to survive and reinforce Axis itself, Char Aznable would still be in hiding
TITANS will still exist because the whole Operation Stardust was planned by both Federation and Anaheim If they dont have Delaz, they will make something else to make the threat of Zeon Remnants exist.
A lot would have changed, but even if the Titans as we know them hadn’t happened, Jamitov would have latched onto another opportunity since he basically wanted to slowly take over the Federation.
I'd say they can all blame Jared for putting Kamille on the war path of destroying the Titans but the guy with the mustache would've said the same thing to Kamille
him and his soldiers. gives me a mixture of epicness and sadness. but the sadness of his death wins. He only managed to take out a few enemies before dying, he was already very injured, his MS was very damaged and he was unable to dodge the shots properly, but he and his companions did what was possible and impossible in those last moments. For me it is very sad that they end up dying like this. they gained a place in my heart
One of the few final confrontations in a Gundam series where the underdog hero totally lost the fight and only survived due to other, bigger shit happening that took his rival's attention away from him.
In retrospect, the GP03D is a bad match for the Neue Ziel. The Dendrobium's main strength is to overwhelm a group with sheer firepower in a blitzkrieg style to wipe them out immediately and move on to the next target and not engage in a one-on-one ship killing where the Neue Ziel excels. That's why most of the Dendrobium's weapons are forward-oriented
On the other hand, most of the Neue Ziel's armaments are beam-based and thus blocked by the Gp03D's I-field so it's kind of an asymmetrical match-up both ways.
The Dendrobium was meant to attack colonies and fleets, not other mobile Armors. The Neue Ziel is from the Axis faction, so it is made to fight other Mobile Armors and Mobile Suits.
Gato and his soldiers last stand before die gives me a mixture of epicness and sadness. but the sadness of his death wins. He only managed to take out a few enemies before dying, he was already very injured, his MS was very damaged and he was unable to dodge the shots properly, but he and his companions did what was possible and impossible in those last moments. For me it is very sad that they end up dying like this. they gained a place in my heart
Man fuck that war criminal and anyone who romanticizes Zeon remnants. Later half of the suffering and federation descent into brutality can attributed to his pointless zealotry to continuing the OYW left off. You know what all that pointless acts of terrorism killing off all non corrupt federation officers over time did? Zeon ended up rejoining the federation.
I'd imagine a lot of the more centrist and utopian leaders of the Federation died during Gato's strike on the Naval Review at Solomon. Thus leading to hard liners and fascists like Bask Om and Jomitov to take control.
Did O'Sullivan really commit suicide? Or was he given additional help? Was it the Zeon, the Feds, the Lunar Government officials, or did Anaheim give him an Early Retirement???? You Decide.
This series gave me trust issues haha. Everyone gets double crossed one way or another. I don't recall this song in the ending during Uraki's trial and establishment of the Titans.
Seeing that Nina at 5:05 makes me mad. She stabbed her bf when he was trying to stop the colony drop. And then she looked traumatized when seeing the result of her bf's mission fail??? Did she has a brain? or moral compass?
It would be so badass to have the rebellion Manga be made into episodes or a few ovas It basically made the Anime make sense (the backroom deals, the false flags, and all the holes in the backstory of Cima)
5:17 A way different music is used in this part in other versions and its way better. It had a sad trumpet sound I believe. Not sure why its different here though. Anyone know what the song was called? Edit : Never mind I found it. Called R&R. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dFvAhiiQr0Q.html Fits way better. You can even play both videos at the same starting at 5:17 here and R&R easily drowns out the other song.
Much of the original 0083 ova soundtrack was taken (arguably plagiarised) directly from foreign films (Invasion USA, The Thing, Brainstorm, Glory, The Barbarians, 2010: The Year we make contact) so some of them were probably cut for legal reasons from the theatrical version. "R&R" incorporates the track "Les Lions-Sabres" by Philippe Sarde from the 1981 film "The Quest for Fire".
@@bionx9098 Immediately recognised 80s movie soundtracks when 0083 first released (watching bootlegged fansubs in the 90s) = "The Battle of Solomon Sea" & "Burn Down" are James Horner's "Race for Time" and "Lillian's Heart Attack" from Brainstorm. "The Naval Review" is "The Year of Jubilee" from the Glory Soundtrack, also by James Horner. "Rising OP. Stardust" and "Hidden Moon" are Jay Chattaway tracks from Invasion U.S.A. "Mau Cima" is Pino Donaggio's is "China's Arrival at Harem" from The Barbarians. "Solar System" is Ennio Morricone's "The Crater" from The Thing. "Ambush" is David Shire's "Space Linkup" from 2010: The Year we Make Contact"... plus there are numerous other unnamed tracks that are also directly lifted from western films.
@@Ozraptor4 My sincerest thanks, i looked at this video and was astounded by the fact that the beginning soundtrack sounded so similar to the Hateful Eight one by Tarantino (the soundtrack is by Morricone) in one of the final scenes (i don't know if you've seen it so i will just say that it is a short slow motion scene). I suppose Morricone cited himself in the Hateful Eight since it's his own soundtrack, but at first i couldn't understand what was happening because Gundam 0083 was way before than The Hateful Eight and i refused to think that Morricone plagiarised Gundam 0083.
He wasnt the only charged, the captain was sentenced to death for assisting the steal of the gp03 meanwhile nina whos indirectly responsible for the colony fall never got punished for her actions
In the manga version which came out recently, Nina never came back to earth and stay in Anaheim creating more and more MS, Kou after released came back to the military met with Keith and Mora but no Nina to be found, side note, Nina in the manga is MUCH MORE FUCK UP than in the OVA
@@Cool_gundam79In the beginning of the video. 0083 has a lot of plagiarized music (to great effect), from various movies, including The Thing (1982). More specifically, the music from the scene where Kurt Russell finds the crashed UFO the Norwegians examined before them.
