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Great job Thomas

Все прекрасно! Но почему нет лонга ?

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That's a good figure for 4L V8 diesel. But I bet it's one of the dirtiest diesel engines. I'm actually shocked that companies still build such big diesel engines in 2017...

Seriously? Is it that low?

@GarugaHunter For 4L V8? Yes, sure. Ofc many modern 4 cylinder 2L diesel engines do 4-5 litres, but that's also half the displacement and half the cylinders... And I bet this car weighs quite a lot too. For what it is, it's definitely impressive. Now when you'd check out the last Kia Sorento review with 9 litres of consumption (4 cylinder 2.2L), that is very bad. I mean sure this car weighs even more, but the competitors do much better than that. It's horrible, there is no excuse for that.

Hi, thomas I want to give a suggestion, please in the end of your reviews, give the cars a final score based on Design, quality, Sustainability, safty and fuel economy.

Mike Roth Big diesel engines could be cleaner than big petrol engines. All car companies just wanted to make a bigger profit margin by cheating the tests. The new E-class 4 banger diesel is the cleanest fossil fuel car on the market. A diesel plugin hybrid with a new V6 diesel could be a dream drivetrain. Electric in the city and diesel on the highways. (Not the Q7 e-tron because that diesel also cheated the tests)

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Keksi the Labrador perfect if you need a lot of cargo space with 4/5 people on board. The boot space is on low side for such a big car. Still, if I could afford the 4S diesel I'd buy one in a heartbeat. It's beautiful and a perfect long distance cruiser.

I wish Porsche would stick to making legendary sports cars instead of trophy wife coaches.

Yeah, these are all lovely cars.

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+Luis Diaz dank u wel!

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+Je S maybe one day a manufacturer will name a colour after me 😅

+golfbuddy1969 cheers!

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Thanks pal ! We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter. At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself. Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LNSUzZXzpdc.html List of practical reasons against animal skin seats: 1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it) 2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling 3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating 4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling 5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa 6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y2wNGFKa4M0.html) So Tesla shows a good example for that 7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather) To the environmental reasons: 1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below) 2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf 3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage. 4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body. 5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy. 6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/ To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production” 1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small. 2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. 3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future. More special video episodes: 1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8f91KgbVbJQ.html 2. And another one right here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tMNgcLE0LDU.html 3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JipYvuDsI6s.html timecode starting 27:46 4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OgHs239bAnE.html 5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway. Manufacturers reactions: We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? 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I also can´t wait for the new Cayenne XD I think the new model will be launched at the IAA later this year :)

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Turbo S Hybrid full review with racetrack coming up !!

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As a german it's hard to listen to his english.

+THK amazing!

+piperbob2 cheers! Brighter and longer distance. But xenon is powerful too

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Thx! Canada vancouver island, also hints in the review :)

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imported from the German fleet those cars! Lovely place u got there! Hybrid Turbo S coming soon !!

+Johannes Gjessing thx! Who is always depends on the brightness frame rate and the shutter speed at the time

It sure is! Awesome country. They imported the cars from Germany :)

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+marko thanks pal!

Of the non sportscar Porsches this is for sure also the best looking so far.

Perfect music in the background ;)

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I guess Porsche drivers with a family

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no reference to bmw :)

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+Isaac Alonzo 😁

progressive is when the effect on the wheels increases progressively while turning the steering wheel, so you dont have to steer that much

we ve been thinkin about that but havent come to a final conclusion =)

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