The Fallout 4 "Next Gen" Update Is Laughably BAD - Bethesda's Biggest Blunder Since 76 

Hahah I called it. Bethesda released a hotfix for this update yesterday. Unfortunately, I was a day late on the news, but hey, the update to the update still don't fix much. Y'all can expect several more updates for a while. I definitely recommend staying on the old version of Fallout 4, until they for sure stop updating the game. For all console players, I'm praying for y'all 🙏 stay strong boys Also, hope y'all enjoy the new face cam. It's something I wanna do more of going forward (definitely not showing off my baller cd collection)

This "update" took the same time to come out as Bethesda gave obsidian to make fallout new vegas... Let that sink in

And they STILL haven't added classic visible holstered weapons, amazing

Bethesda - Break the lore - Break the game - Break Mods - Break your computer Meanwhile the fanboy : Wow Bethesda really respect us by updating the game.

Enclave in the west at the end of FO2: 💀 Enclave in the east at the end of FO3: 💀 Bethesda: UH OH GUYS THE ENCLAVE IS BACK IN BOSTON!!! 😦

What a coincidence that Bethesda dropped an update out of nowhere just as Fallout:London neared its release.

I still cannot fathom why they didn't just leave the PC version alone. "Next Gen" should be a term only applicable to consoles

It took them 16Gb of codes to make the mods stop working......

They thought they were gonna pull off a Cyberpunk 2077 style revival but then it did the complete opposite 😭

For a studio operating entirely on "modders will fix it", Bethesda really goes out of it's way to make the modders' life not easy, huh.

I swear every dev and company is in a competition to see who can screw over their fanbase the hardest

Funny how this "Update" stopped Fallout: London from taking any attention away from the TV Show.

How is Microsoft tolerating Bethesda failing this pathetically over and over? Are they going to make back those 7 billion through merch sales alone? If so, how are they going to sell merch if Bethesda ruined all their IP's? Keeping Bethesda as it is just makes Microsoft look worse in association.

The TV show tourists defending Bethesda over this horrendous update has been sickening to see

When Bethesda dropped the Skyrim patch in December that ruined mods, I thought it was just gross incompetence. When they did the exact same thing to Fallout 4 a few months later, I can't help but believe this is intentional and malicious.

Not only did the update delete all my mods, it also deleted my favourites list. It just works... Thanks Todd 👍

-It's ok guys! The TV series is "good" so everything is forgiven.- That's an argument I've seen around in defense for all this mess.

The worse thing about this is how it affected Fallout London. A group of passionate fans of Fallout who know more about making a game than a AAA studio felt the need to postpone their project because of Bethesda's incompetence

Bethesda on their way to casually break everything they touch

You compared it to Cyberpunk 2.0, but I think a more accurate (and humiliating) comparison would be Witcher 3's Next Gen update. Not only was it a genuine update in both a graphical and gameplay sense, making the game look better and addressing numerous complaints about the balancing of certain systems, but it also included a fairly lengthy new quest... with full voice acting. No little text notes needed! It turns out, voice actors like to work, and will come back if you pay them. Shocking, I know! While we're comparing things, I've heard it said that it would be too much trouble, or too iffy from a legal standpoint, for Bethesda to just fully incorporate fan created bug fixes or mods in their game. To that, I say: popular roguelike _The Binding of Isaac_ had an enormous fan-created overhaul known as Antibirth which launched right around the time of what was supposed to be the final version of the game. Rather than shut it down, Edmund McMillan got in touch with the mod authors and straight up hired them, and although it took a while, the result was _The Binding of Isaac: Repentance,_ an absolute masterpiece that included nearly double the content of any other version of the game, including Antibirth, and is regarded as the definitive version of the game. Passion can be such a powerful tool if you are willing to do what it takes to harness and nurture it. There is so much passion around Bethesda's games, but like everything else they have, they don't know what to do with it.

I can't believe that I thought "this guy brandy sounds like he has great hair". Then BAM, great hair.

It,s funny how mods is the only thing keeping Skyrim and Fallout 4 alive yet Bethesda constantly tries to kill them. BGS is suicidal.

The more I see todd Howard spill crap out of his mouth, the more I see him as a used car salesman

The worst part is, this update still didn't fix any bugs present from launch: namely the various game-breaking settlement bugs such as beds despawning when away from a settlement - which for whatever reason is caused by having electronics in your settlement like TVs, jukeboxes, and radios, so you're still effectively barred from having those decorations if you don't want your settlement happiness to suffer. To think that even a company like Rockstar decided to officially incorporate a modder-made fix to speed up the infamously long loading screen to GTA Online as part of an official patch (and paid the modder for it), while Bethesda still continues to ignore the numerous fixes mods provide for their games.

It took Bethesda almost two years to work on and drop an update for Fallout 4, which added very little content, very few fixes for bugs and also added some new bugs as well... Yet Obsidian only had 18 months to make New Vegas, which to this day stands as the best _Fallout_ game to date. To say I'm disappointed would be correct, because I was sincerely hoping for tons of new content, similar to the level of content Skyrim got with its Creation Club and the Anniversary Edition. I get it - Starfield was the main focus for Bethesda at the time, and almost all hands needed to be on deck for that game. But as we can all see, even Starfield turned out to be middling at best. Meanwhile, Fallout 76 gets feds like the proverbial holiday hog...

I'm honestly surprised the game isn't being review bombed on Steam, Bethesda apologists are a different breed.

I bet Bethesda didn’t even plan on ever releasing this update they just saw how much attention their game was getting and cooked it up in 3 weeks

It's like they all sat down and had a meeting one day. "Hey guys, we have a fanatically loyal fanbase who puts up with our low quality, low effort crap for no logical reason. They even tolerated us wasting Elder Scrolls 6's dev cycle on a shitty pay-to-win MMO that nobody asked for. How quickly do you suppose we could convert all these loyal fans into fanatically pissed off ex-customers who will never buy another of our games and how exactly would we go about doing this?" Todd: "Hey, I know..."

Literally lost everything with this update. Multiple saves, along with a whole library of mods, all gone 💀

Leave it to Bethesda to basically win a lottery with the TV show reviving interest in Fallout, only to screw it up a few weeks later with their absurd incompetence. How do you make a next-gen update for a 9-year-old game 4 years into the consoles' generation and still eff it up?

tfw Fallout London got pushed to god knows when and all we got as compensation was an update that did absolutely nothing but break our modlists and added an enclave miniquest which is basically copium and pales in comparison to America Rising 2. Like... i just don't understand. Are we really THAT bad of a fanbase to deserve this sort of treatment? It literally feels like Bethesda has planned and wanted to screw us over like this. Like they spend YEARS carefully planning every single detail 50 times over to ensure that we'll be as screwed as it was only possible.

I'm not sure how anyone can call themselves a fan of bethesda's Fallout without feeling embarrassed.

Seeing this makes me hate Bethesda even more. I already hate them but this is just mind boggling. I’m calling it right now, Bethesda is one of the most out of touch, incompetent game developers in the industry, alongside Ubisoft.

Add more mod space for the Xbox version, as requested by players: ❌️ Add crap nobody cares about, breaking crap in the process: ✅️ Thanks again, Todd. 🤡👌

A Gamebryo missing mesh 3D warning sign is something I'd expect to see in Morrowind after I botch a manual multi-mod installation myself, not an official plugin for an 8th gen game.

This update was completely pointless. No amount of content additions is worth the amount of jittering, freezes, and crashes that were added. It completely bricked my survival save, and I can barely walk through certain areas without my game crashing. Even without mods, it still crashes. Speaking of mods, my mod library got messed up and my favorites removed on xbox.

Bethesda is a smoking pile of shit by now. If TES6 ever releases and it sucks they are dead.

The same hate Bugthesda pours out on Obsidian due to New Vegas is the same hate being dumped on the Fallout London crew. Little Todd can not stand being outshined by more competent developers, so he deliberately sabotaged the competition.

Its funny, i remember reading an article saying that Bethesda wouldn't be able to update the mod limit on console because it would reset everyone's load orders. Now here we are with no limit change and the mods are broken anyways

I try to play vanilla, but I genuinely can't enter Boston without like 5-6 performance mods, and even then it stuttets if not crashes. Somehow doubt the update will allow me to safely play in the city mods or otherwise Update: tested in full vanilla my usual stability test. Starting in Goodneighbor to get to Greentech Genetics, stopping by the Old North Church and Bunker Hill. I had a few slow/stutter but did get there without a crash. Though the few drops do worry me once explosives/vertibirds come into play. May throw on a reduce enemy/compression mod to help that out

Bethesda is truly out of touch with what the community wants

MOD's are what keeps Bethesda alive.

But at least we got the AK 50

Let's be honest. They saw the hype the show got, decided last second to make some assets for the game, then barfed out the update. There was no planning for this. Apparently it was planned for October last year. That confirms this even more. Just scrapped the update to only use it when the hype for it was returning not to even test it themselves.

People are excited to to play Fallout 4 because of the show Bethesda: We'll take care of that! If you trust bethesda to not completely destroy something, you're insane.

"Should we consider the modding community who keeps our games afloat?" Todd: "Nah, fuck 'em."

Bethesda seems to be suffering from a disease known as "Skyrimitis" where every game they release that's not Skyrim seems to completely and utterly bomb.

I like a few small parts of the enclave content. But getting assaulted by the enclave for doing existing creation quests reeks of "punished for playing the content you may or may not have paid for". They added three magazines to grant "Enclave" settlement assets, but for some reason the better, more compact power armor station couldn't be one of them. The genuinely new, makeshift weapons are neat, but getting ammo for them is basically impossible. I had to download a MOD to allow the crafting of the ammo, since enemies rarely spawn with the weapons and ammo, and, unlike the rest of the Creation weapons which use existing ammo types, you can't benefit from Scrounger when trying to get ammo for them. Just more, half-baked content that the community has to fix later.

Even Mojang tries to get their crap together, but I guess SOMEONE has to be the laughing stock of updating.

The worst part is realising that bethesda is dead,they are never going to release a good game again,they are greedy,lazy,disconected from the fans,and Todd just keeps telling bullshit,I lost all respect for the man,I am never going to buy their games again

I got reminded by the absolute brain rot on tiktok after this update dropped. Saw shit including "Fallout players complained they didnt get updates, now they got one and they still complain, they dont know what they want" (bruh) "Who cares about your mods, its not how the game was meant to be played" "Idk why people dont like the story, its deep and impactful" (this i just found funny)

AAA games developers at this point ask for getting their games to be pirated.

XBox S user: After the May 13 or 14th update, im crashing a lot more. And I never use mods, anyone else?

Bethesda remain the most incompetent AAA developers in the industry, completely broke my modlist for this typical half ass Bethesda slop... and half the new quests they added don't even work. Still dealing with 9 year old bugs on top of everything. It's just sad.

The worst part about the next green update is that I couldn't load games until yesterday. I had a loading screen of over an hour. I made dinner, ate, and came back to the loading screen.

Bethesda is one of the most of laughably incompetent developers. I'm used to greed, I'm used to bad writing, I'm used to hype marketing, but Bethesda is the one company that pays alot of money to hire teams of game devs to sit around, do little, and break their own games. Like, what the hell is an average day like over there? Is it like those videos from Twitter employees pre-Elon Musk? If they were run by greedy suits, you'd think they would gladly fire most of their professional developers and pay all the big modders basically chump change for their work and roll it into official updates--it'd be way cheaper while giving us better content.

Bethesda should focus on actually making the next elder scroll and fallout good rather than doing "next gen" update. But tbh with how starfield turns out, I don't even have hope anymore

Oh boy, I can't tell you how excited I was to install Fallout 4 again, download the "Next gen update", play for a whole 10 minutes to realize there's nothing "next gen" or "update" about it, and uninstall it, wishing I could refund Fallout 4 for the second time.

As much as I love Fallout and The Elder Scrolls, I think I'm willing to let go of the idea that we'll ever see another good one from Bethesda again. I would love another Fallout, just not from them. All these beloved IPs deserve a studio that can make its own damn decisions about it, not some executive-led, short-sighted, cash-grabbing disappointment of a company that killed its consciense years ago. It's time to move on.

"Fine. I'll do it myself." That's what the community told Bethesda with Fallout London. Communities like the fallout community are so fed up that they are taking it into their own hands. Now that is some grade A American revolution right there folks.

I honestly did not expect brandy to look like that (not in a bad way, i just didn't imagine what he looked like)

Theres a lot of mods that will be lost for good since the creators made them and never updated them for years already

Oh Bethesda, in a just world they would be out of business, but only in the gaming industry can you get away time after time again with under performance.

I fucking HATE the "update". It was forced, not an option. Now, I have to spend days and days and days to fix this shit! Lost 60% of my mods. Bethesda are losing their minds!

seeing this, i am verry happy to have "acquired" the game by "others means"...

I immediately hit offline mode on steam, I can't let Bethesda ruin my mods 😂😂

Problem with this is the mods are so old, nobody is going to come back and fix them. Bethesda just wiped out half their mod library and made their game a glitching pile of shit. I wonder who it was overwatching this project. They're stupid or deliberate in what they are doing. Bethesda corporate probably hates modders.

Sim Settlements 2 is the best thing to happen to Fallout 4 and I hope Kinggath keeps cooking

I was speaking to my friends about this whole update fiasco. During the discussion a term came up concerning Bethesda that I still think to this day Uniquely incompetent

bethesda be like: *buy the game *refuse to fix bugs *let modders to their job *release a anniversary edition for 40 dollars *game still has the same bugs, but there are 4 new unique weapons really, this only stops if WE stop buying their product starfield was the biggest disappointment in my gaming experience, and not even mods can save it, its just so mediocre bethesda boycott

They just want to get rid of the modding community without having the balls to say it.

Somehow Bethesda managed to release a patch to make their game less stable than unpatched FNV which is honestly amazing.

I honestly feel like Bethesda resents mods for their games. They can't come out and say it because of how many people they would royaly piss off, but everything seems to suggest it.

They didn’t even bother add more mod storage to consoles, 2gb is not enough

I put way too many hours into fallout 4 before realizing it sucks. Even with 600+ mods you can't fix what is fundamentally shallow. The last few story missions were disgustingly bad with literally no choice.

At this point I just hope Bethesda won't remember that Morrowind and Oblivion exist. Unless they'll decide to remaster it. Even then, all they have to do is bankroll modders who are already doing that. People are literally doing Bethesda's job and they don't give a fuck.

The interesting part is that F4 on xbox series X already had a 60 fps mode. the xbox had a "compatibility option" that allowed you to get 60 fps by turning down the graphics, years before this update. Of course, when I tested it, these modes looked the exact same. Im CONVINCED that they just took that feature and made it in game.

i called this "the starfield aftereffect" bethesda is dead it's just the memes are keeping them alive

Bethesda hit us with the Hodd Toward Stumble.

Bethesda is such a joke. No one ever gets in trouble for making trash and now that MS owns them nothing will get better.

Until Bethesda stops screwing with Fallout 4, im keeping it uninstalled. And im not gonna f*ck with " depots". I'll stick with Fallout New Vegas.

Thank you for confirming that it's not me and it's just fallout being ass when my fps tanks in some areas, I was so worried I couldn't stream it because of my hardware

Genuinely what does this update actually do? For how beefy it is I can't figure out what it does.

When you design your games to be completed and reworked by modders why in the hell would you ever think of adding an update that breaks mods? Someone at Bethesda must have lost a significant chunk of their brain in an unfortunate accident.

On series S it’s laggy as hell. It’s actually insane how bad it is

i am so glad new vegas is safe from todd slop on top of being a better game and an actual fallout game

you should see what happened to some of the creation club content, which requires the latest update of the game to work.. the noir apartment or whatever its called had all of its textures removed and meshes messed up so when you finish the quest and get the key you enter it and everything around you except the doors are invisible; a lot of people bought it recently because it was on sale and now they cant even use it (me being one of them). Apart from that, you would think that they would implement a bullet counted reload system as a part of a "next gen" update, but no the game still treats one bullet missing as the entire gun needs to be emptied then reloaded, not to mention the BCR mod requires F4SE and a update by the creator of the mod to get it working and so far nothing. Leave it to Bethesda to actually downgrade a game when attempting to add content.

You cannot convince me this wasn't Bethesda sabotaging mods like London, Arroyo, 4NV, Cascadia, and Miami just because they know those mods would be better received than the TV show. And that they released *another* update just a 2 days after F4SE got updated? And that Nexus mods suffers an outage on the day that happens? All just coincidence, I'm sure. Because people lack basic mental function (in fairness, most people liked the TV show, so case in point), I don't actually think Bethesda nuked Nexus mods, and I know Next Gen 2 (stupid name) was only to fix the cascade of errors that came with the update, mostly on Xbox. But yes, the tinfoil has ballistic weave and a few legendary effects.

Bethesda remaking New Vegas? That's a laugh. They'd just break it all over again. EDIT: And you don't want current year Obsidian or Bethesda making Fallout. Neither of them have the writing chops to do it anymore, not with Chris Avellone, Ken Rolston, Michael Kirkbride, and VJ Lakshman gone.

Is there a way to reinstall the game through steam and say no to an update, or does it auto update as soon as you download the game again?

I remember as soon as it came out, people flooded the xbox review page telling modded players to “cry” and that it’s “our fault for playing with mods on year old game saves”. It was genuinely annoying as shit to see. Glad to see reasonable people responding to the situation now.

There's never going to be a Fallout 5. At this rate people are gonna lose interest entirely, or we're gonna have Fallout in real life so people will need to channel their inner Vault Dweller or Courier anyway.

It's not all bad. Fallout 4 now runs at a marginally higher FPS on my computer! Oh and it took me two days fixing my mod load order and I had to disable or Uninstall half of my mods and I had to make a new save Bethesda could barely operate a single macdonalds franchise at this point

The Brotherhood's entrance is *still* tied to using a particular console when NPC reactions to the arrival are tied to completing a quest that doesn't require touching that console. Also companions still die if you take the veribird to it. These two bugs should have been fixed in the first patch, not still in the game after 10 years. You can go over 60 FPS in Morrowind with OpenMW.

I’m just waiting for Microsoft to convince obsidian to take the reigns again

Yeah, Bethesda has to be one of the only game studios that I have zero faith in their ability to make good games anymore.

Worse about console mod space: they share the space with the CC content, as far I know

learned this the hard way with skyrim. Dont let bethesda games auto update. Copy your game to another folder. THEN let steam update fallout. once its updated just purge the steam f04 directory deleting everything. then copy your backup back to the steam directory and never ever start the f04 main executable, just the fo4s script extender. now steam wont pester you to update

The issue is that any AAA studio has soo much overhead, even for doing small patches. It's not hard implement most things (look at the mods) but getting any changes through is very time consuming unfortunately. I really wish they would add some mods to the main game and pay the modders like in the witcher 3 next gen

My conspiratorial brain is telling me Bethesda did this to make people play Starfield.