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The Ford F-150's 6 Engine Choices Are Confusing: Here's Our Expert Guide To Choosing The Best One 

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@claymorexl
@claymorexl 5 лет назад
High Output Ecoboost.... So the Taurus had the SHO. Now the F-150 has the HOE....
@Constabruity
@Constabruity 5 лет назад
Stupid High Output 😂
@jimrobertson2215
@jimrobertson2215 5 лет назад
Under warranty. They fix it for free. Coming off lease this fall. Will move on to no ecoboost ever again
@timmaw9559
@timmaw9559 4 года назад
All I know is that when I'm towing my 10000lb trailer and I'm pulling out to pass, because my hoe has it where it counts. I'm grinning ear to ear. Truth be told..
@pcmountaindog
@pcmountaindog 3 года назад
@@timmaw9559 But, will it still be able to do that when it has 200,000 miles on it or will it take a 10,000 dollar trans and engine rebuild. Truth be told? There is a lot to the total truth. Now for those where are rich and can get a new truck every 100,000 miles great, but some of us can't do that. My trucks have to work and earn their keep and some of my employees run the trucks into the ground. If I give them a twin turbo, they are going to have their foot to the floor 90 percent of time and get 10 MPG.
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 5 лет назад
2.7 ecoboost and very surprised by how strong and quiet it is every time I get behind the wheel! The reason I got it was big daddy Nathan’s smile when he took the 2.7 to the race track, I thought Nathan has drove everything and loves it, I’m a grandpa with a pretty Red Truck that will fly and looks so good when me and my beautiful lady for the last 37 year go on our weekly date night, we’re kids again in my ole 67 fast back mustang, I call it my pony truck!
@nicholaswegman7419
@nicholaswegman7419 5 лет назад
I have a 16 F-150 3.5 Eco, I regularly get 19-20 combined. On the highway I get 22-25 mpg. Over the life of the truck, from 2016 to current day I am getting 18.6. If you cant get the mileage you aren't trying. Keep in mind, I do NOT drive the speed limit. Usually 5 to 10 over. When I tow I get 12-15. I love the best they could come up with as a negative on the 3.5 was the augmented sound. Get over yourselves! I love my 3.5 Eco and would recommend to anyone!! I have had 2 and both were awesome!
@martywilkinson6722
@martywilkinson6722 5 лет назад
I love my 2.7 Ecoboost. I've towed some large boats with it and its been great. Great mileage as long as you don't drive it too hard. Very quick especially in sport mode. I don't tow 10K + loads with mine, so I can honestly say I have no complaints at all. I have 37K miles so far.
@USA____
@USA____ 5 лет назад
Marty Wilkinson any problems?
@ThePete2432
@ThePete2432 5 лет назад
Lug nuts are a major issue, I hope they come up with solid replacements... spent over $400 so far
@beemrmem3
@beemrmem3 5 лет назад
You shouldn’t be towing over 10,000lbs with a half ton anyway
@martywilkinson6722
@martywilkinson6722 5 лет назад
@@USA____ No, so far so good. I have not had a single mechanical issue with it.
@USA____
@USA____ 5 лет назад
Marty Wilkinson good! Glad to hear.
@Tf9500
@Tf9500 5 лет назад
I have a 3.3l in a reg cab 4x4 long box and it gets 11.3liters/100k. 20 mpg. It has enough power to pull my Lincoln welder. In the 80’s trucks a lot heavier where being pulled around with less. I like the extra room under the hood and the lack of turbos should make it last longer. So far so good!
@Bradington
@Bradington 5 лет назад
I think the same thing about the mid-size pickups. They have more HP and similar torque to even Heavy Duty trucks from the 80's and 90's.
@Tman0517
@Tman0517 5 лет назад
That's what I've been saying with my 3.5l n/a v6 in my 2016, the power is great compared to the 90's trucks we have at my job and most 90's half tons in general. And I find I never really go above 3000rpm, but I'm also in a regular cab with 6.5" bed so the power to weight ratio is great. I dont think these base v6 options get enough credit for what they do.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
Turbos dont make the engine less dependable if the engine is built up to have one. My car has a turbo hax 200.,000 k miles diesels have turbos. Ford built the ecoboost to be able to handle more power than they come with
@Tf9500
@Tf9500 5 лет назад
ArchV1 I don’t have a problem with the turbos, but I’ve heard of a few trucks that had trouble under 100000km with the turbos maybe people didn’t change the oil on time, one truck the guy said it would out run his old cummins pulling a horse trailer. I put mine in sport mode and it has lots of power and is a bit of fun.
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 5 лет назад
All of the engine's produced today are putting out more hp/tq than the one's from the mid 90's on down,pretty impressive how the 4 and 6 cyl's are putting the power down.
@chadwalker8859
@chadwalker8859 5 лет назад
My 2018 3.5 ecoboost XLT 4x4 super crew cab averages 20.5 mpg. I couldn’t be happier with engine and the truck. I just hit 34,000 miles.
@harveyhenry3598
@harveyhenry3598 5 лет назад
I have the same truck, 13000 miles so far, same experience as yours.
@oldmanjankens6016
@oldmanjankens6016 4 года назад
Harvey Henry “
@tomvana4270
@tomvana4270 4 года назад
I have the same with 31.000 miles and it's in the shop as we speak for rattling timing chains. NOT GOOD!
@eljuancho2
@eljuancho2 4 года назад
lets see how much it cost to repair those turbos at 100,000+ miles
@Brucev7
@Brucev7 4 года назад
@@eljuancho2 Whewww!
@franksteinmann6926
@franksteinmann6926 4 года назад
I think the 5.0 Coyote ist an outstanding engine, and I'd always prefer a bullet-proof V 8 over a turbocharged V 6, even if it is more powerful! 395 hp are a decent number in this class, even perfectly appropriate for a Raptor! For those who want more: Just tune it up a bit, 450+ hp coyotes no problem at all!
@mikeschoolcraft21
@mikeschoolcraft21 5 лет назад
The 2.7 eb in the Ranger would be awesome
@Shakerhood69
@Shakerhood69 5 лет назад
A 5.0 Coyote and a Manual Transmission in the Ranger would be a blast!
@beemrmem3
@beemrmem3 5 лет назад
Not enough room for the 5.0. That’s s huge motor.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
No the 3.0 eco boost in the ranger would be better
@glenm2229
@glenm2229 5 лет назад
2.7 isn't much of an upgrade from the base 2.3. A 3.0L V6 ecoboost makes much more sense as an upgrade -- and it leaves room for the raptor trim to have a HO 3.0
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 5 лет назад
@@glenm2229 the 2.7 would be a great improvement over the 2.3. 55 horsepower and 90lb/ft is a really healthy jump, and I'd be the area under the curve would show and even greater improvement. That being said, if a Coyote wont fit due to size, neither will a V6 EB unless the manifolds are completely reworked. They are pretty massive engines when including all the plumbing.
@nlitenurmind
@nlitenurmind 5 лет назад
My 2017 3.5 xlt fx4 has been exceptional. Very quiet with mucho power on reserve. 21mpg combined. No issues to 14k mi. With 36 gallon tank I can get a range of nearly 800 miles when I stay off the freeways. 😎
@thedoubleop
@thedoubleop 5 лет назад
I have the 2.7 Twin Turbo Ecoboost and it's pretty awesome. 10speed is interesting, 7th gear at 35mph. 325hp, 400tq. This engine is definitely underrated.
@booya6437
@booya6437 5 лет назад
Underrated? That’s their volume seller right now
@thedoubleop
@thedoubleop 5 лет назад
@@booya6437 people scoff that I only got a 2.7 and that I'm not towing a yacht to work everyday.
@gusdelmoba3185
@gusdelmoba3185 5 лет назад
@@thedoubleop I hate when people talk about towing but never tow anything. If you don't need it that is wasted power, money and gas.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 5 лет назад
I agree, it is under rater. I believe it produces more then 325 hp and 400 ft lbs of torque. It should also have the same payloads as the 5.0L but it does not. It should also be rated to tow as much as the 5.0L in some trucks, like the regular cab SWB, but it isn't. It's all marketing.
@Bart12349
@Bart12349 4 года назад
Are you related to Bailey Ford?
@BUILTDIESELMAFIA
@BUILTDIESELMAFIA 5 лет назад
Enjoyed this video going over all these engines. Good work on this one guys.
@cjhike2456
@cjhike2456 5 лет назад
I have a 2016 SCREW with the 2.7 and get 25mpg highway consistently doing 60mph. Not a single issue and it tows my 6,500lbs travel trailer with ease. Auto start/stop has never bothered me, the engine starts back up before I get my foot from the brake to the gas peddle. Very happy with the engine and truck!
@justinluttrell1769
@justinluttrell1769 5 лет назад
That's pretty much the same as my V8 truck.
@paulrodrigues9603
@paulrodrigues9603 5 лет назад
I have a 2018 F150 STX w/ 3.5L EcoBoost w/ the 10 speed. I had to drive from Florida to Rhode Island. I got 25.1 mpg and w/ the 800+ mile range I only had to stop once for gas. I have pictures if needed. The STX engine sound is not augmented. I never hear anyone complain that a lot of BMW's are augmented. Lame complaint!!! Auto stop/start … after 9 months of driving you don't even notice anymore.
@paulrodrigues9603
@paulrodrigues9603 5 лет назад
@The94GTC 2wd but my 2015 4X4 wasn't much different on the highway too.
@slick_rickmcquick387
@slick_rickmcquick387 4 года назад
I dont need pictures i believe you. Drove my 2017 3.5 ecoboost 10 spd. Round trip from Wisconsin to Colorado and toured round the mountains. 24.4 mpg for whole trip. Crew cab, 6.5 box, 3.55 gears. And it still had great power in the mountains. That being said i wasnt pushing it. I know if you crank em up to 80+ mph they like to suck gas.
@dereks8786
@dereks8786 5 лет назад
I have a 2018 with the 2.7 and it's awesome. Unless your consistantly towing 10k it's all you really need.
@nathan3306
@nathan3306 5 лет назад
It’s not towing weight that’s the problem, it’s payload.
@TyeWills
@TyeWills 5 лет назад
I have the V8 in a 2016. It’s been great so far.
@kevinwilliamson7294
@kevinwilliamson7294 5 лет назад
A small jumper wire on the start stop switch disabled mine. Cost me about 20 minutes and an 2 inches of 24 gauge wire. Worked like a charm.
@rozzbourn3653
@rozzbourn3653 5 лет назад
I would say for 90% of truck users, the 2.7l ecoboost offers the most balanced price/performance of all the motors. bar the HO 3.5, its also the quickest 0-60.
@massalo85
@massalo85 5 лет назад
Watching this after just completing a 4000+ mile trip from Florida to the Grand Canyon in my 2018 3.5 L F150 XLT 4x2 and I was able to average 24 miles to the gallon at an average speed I would say about 70 and 75 in Texas
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
Why buy a 2 wheel drive get a 4x4
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 5 лет назад
@@Jv19979 why by a 4wd if you dont need it?
@justinluttrell1769
@justinluttrell1769 5 лет назад
Sounds about right if you're cruising at a reasonable speed. My V8 2WD XLT just barely topped that on a similar trip. But I fought a lot of headwind in West Texas so it hurt the mpg bad trying to keep it at 80.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 Год назад
@@ALMX5DP sir archibald probably drives on a gravel road once in awhile so he feels he needs it
@BeepThis
@BeepThis 5 лет назад
I just drove from Pennsylvania to South Carolina 650 miles with my new 2019 f150 XLT V8 with 3:73 36 gallon fuel tank the truck only had 1000 miles on it. I was getting 19 mph on the trip down. The trip home was 18 mph. I love the V8
@kickingagainstthepricks4059
@kickingagainstthepricks4059 5 лет назад
Not many talk about the aluminum weight factor. I love the “light on its feet feeling “ combined with the 5.0L 4x4 it’s just plain awesome!! Great truck.
@finerbiner
@finerbiner Год назад
Unless you want to tow in the mountains. Then you will get tired of over revving in 2nd gear. The 5.7 from Toyota is just far superior.
@thevashfan12392
@thevashfan12392 10 месяцев назад
@@finerbiner that's a fair point but really a better gearbox is best in that case. I would look at a 10 speed, 13 speed, or, if they ever get around to it, a non-commercial 18 speed. really depends on what application and what tool to use for the job. outside of that: I would definitely go with a 5.7 v8 tundra before the 5L v8 f150; but it's a matter of price and budget. nissan titan isn't bad, toyota tundra is a step up, f150 is a great option due to high availability, 5.2L and 5.9L ram v8 is pretty substantial but for work related applications: 6.7 f250 or even an f-350 is preferrable just that with the f-350 it's going to hurt the wallet both in diesel and when it's due for an oil change (13 qts of 5w40 is 205 dollars at the dealership!)
@k.padraigokane1472
@k.padraigokane1472 5 лет назад
I absolutely LOVE your channel. I have a lifted 2000 XLT 5spd with 34s and E-fan update. Sure, it's not modern, but at least I'm in an F150. :-) This channel lets me dream!
@chadmckinney4518
@chadmckinney4518 5 лет назад
I own a 2018 F-150 with 3.5 eco boost. I have been averaging 19.2mpg. I have only 4K miles on the truck.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 5 лет назад
Ugh...I need to keep my foot out of it. lol. I'm only averaging about 11 mpg. BUT that is mostly city driving and I have an E50 tune...so hard to not have fun. haha
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 5 лет назад
Michael Godsey Yep that’s the key, keeping the RPMs down. As soon as you spool those turbos up, there’s goes your mpg.. Otherwise I’ve seen a few first gen Ecoboosts with over 200,000 trouble free miles, some pushing 300,000 with O2 sensors and tune ups. No matter what Ford says, I would stay a step ahead on oil changes especially if you pull mountains, drive hard or tow a lot..
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
@@Pilot545 who cares about mpg
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 5 лет назад
ArchV1 haha... not this guy! I’ll gladly trade mpg for hp and torque 😜
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 5 лет назад
Eric Fortune Jr. Couldn’t agree more. My dad always taught me the most important thing is keeping oil changed. Even more important with this tune.
@rhino6285
@rhino6285 4 года назад
Great video I own since new a 2002 F150 XLT Super Cab 5.4 Triton 2 valve 4x4 with 4 speed auto 135,000 miles with 3.55 tow package and happy that I get 16 mpg.
@Islandpandemonium
@Islandpandemonium 4 года назад
I have a 2001 f150 XLT 2wd 4.6 V8 176,000 miles been driving with coil problem for 15 years 17.5 miles per gallon , you get used to it for the reliability. Working on replacing front suspension parts etc.
@blommaertbart3224
@blommaertbart3224 5 лет назад
Superb presentation guys... Thank YOU
@icu_corey_rn_903
@icu_corey_rn_903 4 года назад
I’d go with the 5.0 simply because when I buy a truck I drive the wheels off of it my current silverado is 12 years old and my truck before that was 14 I just simply trust a good old v8 over the 3,5 for the long haul
@Celtics20
@Celtics20 4 года назад
Same here, I just got the 5.0. planning on driving it to the ground. My last truck was a 02 Silverado
@johngriffin8853
@johngriffin8853 4 года назад
The 5.0 will last longer for sure! I have a 1997 F-150 with 4.6 and I have over 200k and it still runs great and sounds great also just replace the headers on it this time I put stainless steel ones on I've had this truck for 21years
@alexpietrangeli6669
@alexpietrangeli6669 4 года назад
@@johngriffin8853 be careful of the 2018 and 2019 5.0 they make a knocking noise and some consume oil
@AustinC2838
@AustinC2838 4 года назад
@@Celtics20 Nice man. Any issues with it?
@AustinC2838
@AustinC2838 4 года назад
@@alexpietrangeli6669 Yeah Ive heard that too
@cschmi9624
@cschmi9624 5 лет назад
Thank you for making this. Basically confirmed that I want a 3.5L but great information in one video.
@robertrichardson9953
@robertrichardson9953 5 лет назад
I love my 3.5. Tow Airstreams and other towable RV'S 5 days a week with mine with no trouble
@timmaw9559
@timmaw9559 5 лет назад
I tow a 10000lb rv with my 3.5 EcoBoost. Gotta love that torque.
@cschmi9624
@cschmi9624 5 лет назад
@@timmaw9559 What kind of gas mileage you getting when you do that?
@jermdawg2805
@jermdawg2805 5 лет назад
Been very happy with my 17 3.5. I drive it easy most the time and keep the oil changed. 20k down and zero problems.
@timmaw9559
@timmaw9559 5 лет назад
@@cschmi9624 I just looked at computer on truck, its showing 14.1L per 100km, life time average mileage. That's towing and every day driving. I have 42000 km on it. You do the math if you want to convert to miles per gallon.
@sbenn6917
@sbenn6917 3 года назад
As usual another great video. Love your channel guys, keep them coming.
@mikedurham3563
@mikedurham3563 5 лет назад
My 3.5L EB doesn't have augmented sound, thankfully. I have no issues with start stop, with the exception of stop signs where it can be too quick to shut down the engine. But, take your foot off the brake and the engine comes back to life before you can get to the gas anyway.
@LukasDubeda
@LukasDubeda 5 лет назад
The problem with this is: it doesn't save anything, quite contrary. Real-world testing showed this nonsense consumes more oil, goes more heavy on the engine and in the end you won't save any gas and more importantly, due to higher oil consumption, it doesn't save the environment at all. It's a political bullshit, once again, nothing else.
@mikedurham3563
@mikedurham3563 5 лет назад
@@LukasDubeda that's where you're wrong. Motor companies wouldn't make the investment in software and drivetrains if there wasn't a gas mileage or emissions benefit, it makes no economic sense to do so. The savinffs all depend on your drive cycle. A lot of highway driving of course would see near zero benefit, but a standard commute with stop lights will net larger returns. As far as engine damage, that's nonsense from biased/old school 3000 mile oil change people. The engines are modified to retain oil near friction points to prevent wear, which is minimal in a warmed up engine anyway. And there is no physical way for starting your engine to increase oil consumption. The puff of blue smoke from a worn engine is due to the time the oil has had to slip past seals, it is still consuming oil through worn seals during operation, but you just can't see the smoke due to the amount.
@clydewilson1141
@clydewilson1141 4 года назад
I have a 2019 F-150 with the 2.7 V-6. It is fabulous!
@11riehldeal
@11riehldeal Год назад
Any issues since this?
@jorrick66
@jorrick66 4 года назад
I’ve had my 2018 3.5 ecobeast for a little over a year now, and have consistently gotten 21-22 mpg combined. Granted I live in the Midwest where our highest elevation is 1,700 ft, but I’ve been thoroughly impressed with it. Pretty anxious to see if the rumors of the twin turbo v6 Tundra are true.
@glassmw9823
@glassmw9823 Год назад
I’m from the future. It’s true.
@jadeddragon4254
@jadeddragon4254 Год назад
Don't believe him, my name is John Connor and I'm from the future future, he's an assassin
@yakbiker75
@yakbiker75 5 лет назад
I get 9.5l/100km in my 2.7 on the highway and low 10's combined. Not sitting in big city peak hour traffic though but very happy with consistent hwy mileage.
@izuksammy
@izuksammy 5 лет назад
Even the Ford technicians prefer the 5.0 for reliability.
@bluemut55
@bluemut55 4 года назад
Ford technicians drive Rams
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
Most reliable out of the unreliable
@warsquirt
@warsquirt 4 года назад
Too bad it comes with that horrible 10 spd.
@jonsmith8083
@jonsmith8083 4 года назад
Ford technicians will never be out of work. Lmao
@jonsmith8083
@jonsmith8083 4 года назад
Just the Facts they sell a jumper wire to fix that
@OliG2
@OliG2 5 лет назад
No matter what everyone thinks or says, the 2.7 EB with 10A is the best engine for 90%+ of pickup truck owners! Unless you want to tow more than 8000lbs regularly, nothing beats its efficiency (without a load), its overall power, torque, etc.
@ericjosey844
@ericjosey844 5 лет назад
Do have to run premium gas with the 2.7?
@OliG2
@OliG2 5 лет назад
Eric Josey no, the manual says minimum 87 octane and if towing close to max load for an extended period to use 91 octane, but other than that I have not seen any difference in my truck in terms of performance or MPG with either type of gas despite many trials in hot and cold weather.
@egates
@egates 5 лет назад
Can you do a test loop in start and stop traffic with the start/stop eliminator installed versus not installed?
@Ekimsnegdoh27
@Ekimsnegdoh27 5 лет назад
Siff of Neden yes your correct.
@codywohlers2059
@codywohlers2059 4 года назад
@@Ekimsnegdoh27 I think a comment got deleted?
@BreckoniousMaximus
@BreckoniousMaximus 5 лет назад
I'm glad Ford has so many engine options for people to chose from. Living in the Mountain west, I'd stick with the 3.5 ecoboost for sure. However, if I lived in the Midwest or south, the 5.0 might be a consideration.
@chrispenny1422
@chrispenny1422 4 года назад
I have a 3.5 I'm getting 17.4 mpg not bad love the power n torque
@pedrothemexican3360
@pedrothemexican3360 2 года назад
So cool how Ford is so considerate of the LGBTQA+ community by offering all the V6 variants.
@ocrapo9327
@ocrapo9327 2 года назад
@@pedrothemexican3360 lol.. 3.3 v6 N/A is a work truck engine
@pedrothemexican3360
@pedrothemexican3360 2 года назад
@@ocrapo9327 If you say so
@davidg5965
@davidg5965 Год назад
I'm from Arizona where the elevation is above 5,000 - would you recommend the 3.5 or 5.0? I'm in the market for one and would like your opinion
@georgeresburg5809
@georgeresburg5809 4 года назад
I'm doing 19.5 mpg. in my 2018 driving the Altamont pass. 5.0 v8 4wd crew-cab, Guard Green. I love this truck. My 96 Ranger 3.0 2wd 5 speed manual transmission still going. I love this truck! Nice little upgrade in the f150.
@georgeresburg5809
@georgeresburg5809 4 года назад
@Jason Creech I'm up to 20.4 average with no traffic the last four weeks. Stay healthy!
@gusvera5334
@gusvera5334 5 лет назад
I had 13 5.0 now i have the 18 2.7 and i love it im getting 19.4 real mpg
@robertharris9469
@robertharris9469 4 года назад
My fully loaded F150 Lariat 4x4 3.0 diesel with average mpg city hwy combined over 24,000 miles has been 25.1 mpg and I do love this fully loaded truck. I have worked on a couple of base model F150 commercial fleet recently with the 3.0 diesel.
@thatrudager
@thatrudager 3 месяца назад
26mpg here. Real-world mixed driving. 175,000 kms (110,000 miles). Dips down to 23mpg-21mpg when the air or fuel filter starts to get old. Yes, both effect fuel economy.
@ripfletching
@ripfletching 5 лет назад
Now that’s a fantastic video guys!!! Thanks
@cz1always608
@cz1always608 4 года назад
Just for a left over 2018 and went with the 5.0 cannot be happier Of course it’s a new truck
@Fishguy13
@Fishguy13 5 лет назад
I have a 2005 f350 with the 5.4 under 100k and I have a 1994 f150 with the 4.9l straight 6 and they are both awesome and require low maintenance on everything the 94 is a mud truck and f350 a pavement tow rig
@PsalmFourteenOne
@PsalmFourteenOne 5 лет назад
I'm leaning towards the 5.0 and adding forced induction but if I was a person who was just going to leave the truck stock then the EcoBoost would definitely be the best choice. People who talk smack about the 3.5 EcoBoost have never driven one. I had one for work. it's quicker and more powerful than any stock V8 truck.
@jacknabstedt3222
@jacknabstedt3222 5 лет назад
I've driven them. I don't like them, they drive nice but it was a friends truck and it was always in the shop.
@bluemut55
@bluemut55 4 года назад
I owned the 3.5 Eocboost in a 2019 F150 Platinum. Ford couldn't fix the dead miss. They helped me buy a Ram. I shit you not.
@williammartin2374
@williammartin2374 4 года назад
@@bluemut55 What is the "dead miss" that you speak of, can you expand?
@bluemut55
@bluemut55 4 года назад
@@williammartin2374 Here's the story William. I buy a 2019 Ford F150 Platinum with the 3.5 Ecoboost engine. Lovely truck. Second day the miss starts. Try to hold a constant speed and the engine is missing. You can actually watch the fuel consumption gag jumping. So I go to the dealership. We fixed it they say; ambient air sensor in the rearview mirror. I drive home and it happens again. I make another appointment and the dealership gives me a rental. Another 2019 F 150. I head home and it's doing it too. So I get a call two days later "come get the truck" I go to the dealership and they are embarrassed. They said they couldn't fix it and found the problem with others on their lot. I'm told that Ford is trying to fix the problem but nothing so far.I'm told I'm going to have to live with it. I talked to the service manager who tells me to go behind the dealership and see the Rams sitting there. "They belong to the mechanics" I'm told. So I get in touch with Ford who reveal that it's true. They tell me they will get a fix.They call me in two weeks time and say there is a fix and "we mailed the disk to the dealership". Right. Two weeks later and it still hasn't arrived. I call bull s**t and they help me buy a Ram. They arranged the deal and I traded in the F150. Now drive a Ram. Too bad because I loved the Ford but that dead miss (like there's water in the fuel or a bad plug) was too much to take. Maybe they fixed it, I don't know and I don't care anymore. Cost me 4K to up-grade to the Ram but the truck is flawless so far.
@HappyCarReviews
@HappyCarReviews 5 лет назад
Coyote V8 5.0 period!
@MstangMch4
@MstangMch4 5 лет назад
Why not a 5.0 Coyote Eco-Boost!!! in F-150 & in Mustang!! be killing camaros in your TRUCK!!!!
@sleeplessvirus
@sleeplessvirus 4 года назад
mike force lol
@andybub45
@andybub45 4 года назад
The Coyote is long gone. The new 5.0 is an oil burning pile of junk. In fact, all Ford engines are junk.
@jimtalbott2894
@jimtalbott2894 2 года назад
@@andybub45 What? Ford= Fix or repair daily? 😁
@philip600rr
@philip600rr 5 лет назад
Patiently waiting for the new Super Duty with the 7.3 gas engine. 👍
@dierrickyoung5501
@dierrickyoung5501 5 лет назад
Yes
@MontysMotos
@MontysMotos 5 лет назад
I've been pretty anxious to see that myself.
@williamschuman4951
@williamschuman4951 4 года назад
Interesting
@dant387
@dant387 5 лет назад
I'm very impressed with my 2014 5.0. When there's low wind I can get 20 mpg with no problem. That's damn good for a full size V8 truck with a 3.55 rear. & I bought it thinking I would get nowhere near that
@justinluttrell1769
@justinluttrell1769 5 лет назад
And the new aluminum trucks are significantly better than even that. Faster too.
@pedrothemexican3360
@pedrothemexican3360 2 года назад
So cool how Ford is so considerate of the LGBTQA+ community by offering all the V6 variants.
@kurtzgarfield358
@kurtzgarfield358 4 года назад
I love my 2.7 ecoboost. I get 24mpg hwy in a 4x4 supercab. Never got below 20mpg for city.
@11riehldeal
@11riehldeal Год назад
Any issues since this?
@patriciagantz377
@patriciagantz377 4 года назад
Ok I’m retired from all the towing , hauling , racing , big motor sounds and all the other crap you think is important ! I’ll put an occasional load from the lumber yard but , I’m done beating up my trucks . I bought my 2019 2.7 F-150 in May and it is the quickest truck I’ve ever owned . I just drove it to Florida from NY and getting off and ON the interstate was easy ! The only problem I’ve had is at 7,000 miles I went to get in it and it was COMPLETELY DEAD , like NO battery was in it . Half hour later I went to jump it and it was fine ! The next day I brought it to the dealer and no codes ! It was like it never happened ! It had to be a computer thing . Other than that one incident , I’m 100% 2.7 !
@andrewespinoza7869
@andrewespinoza7869 5 лет назад
Great video guys very helpful 👍
@jonsmith919
@jonsmith919 5 лет назад
Base V6 is still good motor, but for extra 1k it’s a no brainer to get 2.7
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 4 года назад
Brandon Dreher Yeah so they will buy used. But will they be able to buy a 2.7 when the trucks 15 years old with 150000 miles on it? At that point the Motors reliability is called into question
@joerutkowsky3261
@joerutkowsky3261 4 года назад
I was told it cost $5000 to replace or rebuild the turbos . ? They are always spooled so the towing power it there all the time. So i am sure they wont last as long as car turbos that are not spooled all the time . Sure if you trade your truck in all the time. No problem. But i drive mine till i cant anymore.
@joerutkowsky3261
@joerutkowsky3261 4 года назад
I have the 3.5L non turbo. And was told by my dealer that it has the same internals as the 3.5L twin turbo. So i am hoping that it is a tough motor and will laat a long time.
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 4 года назад
Joe Rutkowsky The 3.5’s turbos aren’t always spooled, that’s kind of inaccurate, they are a twin-scroll design. Basically it spools up almost instantly.
@francesco1998
@francesco1998 4 года назад
Joe Rutkowsky It should yea. Ford makes good engines. (Except the tritons those were junk.)
@EmeryJude
@EmeryJude 5 лет назад
Cool! I'll take that High Output in a reg cab short bed and put some "Lightning" stickers on it! Ahh, if only...
@s4_nick605
@s4_nick605 5 лет назад
e luquette no. thats not a lightning. get a coyote with a roush supercharger and then maybe...
@justinluttrell1769
@justinluttrell1769 5 лет назад
Man you can't have a Lightning without a V8 roar.
@DRugfree1987
@DRugfree1987 3 года назад
Could always get a 5.0 regular cab then slap a supercharger on it. Would be a hell of a lot cheaper and faster than a limited 3.5ho
@gripking131313
@gripking131313 4 года назад
I took my 2018 coyote truck to the track at just over 1000 miles on the odometer. At the track there was the exact same truck same 10r80 trans, same 3.55 final gear, same wheels/tires, both oem stock only difference was the other guy was a 3.5 Ecoboost. His best time of the day was a 14.74. I was running 14.10 at 103mph spinning 1st gear into 2nd gear. After a year of owner ship I still haven't found a 3.5 Ecoboost that keeps up with my coyote.
@rsdokc
@rsdokc 4 года назад
Excellent information. Was looking at Ford truck and this was super help. Thx
@peterad1529
@peterad1529 5 лет назад
5.0 our daily driver work truck has over 40k miles no issues. I'm curious about the tick some speak of. I'll have to listen close this week. I'd consider a 2.7
@AZSilverbug
@AZSilverbug 4 года назад
If you are keeping your truck for only the warranty years, a 3.5 Eco-boost is fine... if longer, get the 5.0... no brainer... when the turbos fail... and tehy WILL: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
@WilliamFiler
@WilliamFiler 4 года назад
I bought a 2015 4x4 5.0 from Carvana. In Tahoe I am getting 20.5 average Reno/Tahoe/Sac up and down the 80. I have stock hub cap style wheels and stock HA tires. I am in love!
@mattjhuhn
@mattjhuhn 5 лет назад
One note that I've noticed from the newer rental truck that I had. Sport mode actually netted better combined mpg than eco mode. I don't know if this is because it is more aggressive to down shift, and avoid building larger boost numbers, or what.
@dafarmer3721
@dafarmer3721 5 лет назад
2016 5.0 with 47,000 miles been great wanted a 2.7 but ended up with a 5.0 xlt 302A basically a lariat without leather been really good wish for better mileage not bad now and better hauling capacity. Bought with 7400 miles
@rogerlopez1745
@rogerlopez1745 4 года назад
I got the 2.7 2018 but i was looking for the 5.0 but at the time every truck was sold they just can keep those coyote trucks on the dealer but i'll still happy with 2.7 though but i will rather have the v8.
@dafarmer3721
@dafarmer3721 4 года назад
roger lopez after close to another 20,000 miles my fuel mileage is steady at 19.8 Varys on wind and hills but I drove from Bandon oregan to Iowa and got 22. Mpg interstate
@dafarmer3721
@dafarmer3721 4 года назад
roger lopez I did have a warranty claim for my 4x4 it basically grenaded and had to be replaced probably due to over use on icy roads due to shit tires
@bobdennis4801
@bobdennis4801 5 лет назад
Mr Truck was able to meet the EPA rating with his personal truck on his you tube channel.
@patwalker9890
@patwalker9890 4 года назад
Best depends on your use. My '06 had the 4.2l and I put 120k trouble free miles on it. Problem was terrible mileage. Towing a Basstracker boat (not very heavy) I got around 12 mpg. I went with the 3.3l on my '19 for cost, but I've been happy with mileage. It easily pulls my little boat around at just under 16mpg and gets 20+ highway. I have never thought "Gee I wish I had more power".
@ocrapo9327
@ocrapo9327 2 года назад
Yeah the 4.2 is a legend.
@ericgoins5207
@ericgoins5207 5 лет назад
I have a 2017 f150 3.5 Eco SCREW 4x4 with 10 speed w22k miles and I love it. Does everything I need and leaves a smile on my face. I get 17mpg city, 21 mpg hwy, 11 mpg towing 7.5 x 16 cargo trailer. I have driven it across country at one point driving it 31 straight hours with my buddies rotating driving without a hiccup. My only mechanical issues have been 2 lug nuts that ruptured and wobble in 5th gear that’s happened a couple of times. I did have issues with towing my enclosed trailer (weighs 5k lbs) specifically on the highway when an eighteen wheeler passes I got sucked in but added an Anderson Sway Control Hitch that solved it. I paid $38k for it (MSRP was $53k) with the XLT and heated seat package. My biggest concern is durability out of the engine but I will change the oil every 5K, so time will tell but I love it.
@henryford2736
@henryford2736 5 лет назад
I have '15 Lariat with 3.5L eco at 78k. Don't have any issues. Love it.
@joeleastwood355
@joeleastwood355 5 лет назад
3:52 that's what I'm constantly telling my wife
@gavinweiler3831
@gavinweiler3831 3 года назад
Joel Eastwood lmaooo
@humbertogomez3907
@humbertogomez3907 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
@lookoutnow4996
@lookoutnow4996 3 года назад
Damn😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bradjohnson4787
@bradjohnson4787 5 лет назад
My 3.5 eco is unbelievable - I pass all the "big boys"! I'm getting 20 not towing.
@rdg760jr2
@rdg760jr2 4 года назад
Thanks For The Info Guys 👍
@wolfjr1717
@wolfjr1717 5 месяцев назад
Very happy with 3.5L eco in my 2020 Lariat. Great performance in the Rockies at altitude and it tows nicely up mountain passes with enough torque. No issues so far at 50K miles, but I change oil religiously.
@mojorisin7317
@mojorisin7317 5 лет назад
As much as I like the power numbers of both turbo charged V6's I would most certainly choose the V8. Hands down best motor overall. The best balance and is going to be much more reliable and better sounding. Hope Ford continues to offer V8 options. But I can certainly see the attraction to the turbo charged V6's.
@nateg08
@nateg08 11 месяцев назад
I agree with the sound, but the rest goes to my 2015 3.5. Best truck I've ever had. Never a problem, and it pulls much better than the 5.0. Hauls a camper on a weekly basis (in east TN mountains) and doesn't burn or leak an ounce of oil. Every one I know with am EB loves it.
@BUILTDIESELMAFIA
@BUILTDIESELMAFIA 5 лет назад
Best engine is hands down the 3.5 ecoboost. Period.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 4 года назад
After 60,000 miles of towing, it will be worn out.
@dungteller367
@dungteller367 3 года назад
thank you, just what I needed to decide!
@mrpaulgrimm6129
@mrpaulgrimm6129 4 года назад
I drive a F150 crew cab 4x4 with the Ecoboost 3.5 . I pull a 7500 pound RV Laredo. I pull the high Lake Charles La bridge and never slowed down. I got 10mph pulling and average 18 local not pulling and 21 Hwy! Great engine. Use a Husky Centerline Hitch
@jimandwendy
@jimandwendy 5 лет назад
2017 4x4 with 3.5 EcoBoost. Last tank of mixed driving, 21.9 average.
@CarGuy5141
@CarGuy5141 4 года назад
When will Ford catch on that everyone wants the 5.0 in the Raptors??
@BlueOvals24
@BlueOvals24 Год назад
The only people that don't want that wouldn't buy a Raptor anyways.
@ms1406
@ms1406 2 года назад
2.7 ecoboost for me I love mines!!
@johntaternose9876
@johntaternose9876 4 года назад
I have a 2018 f150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost. I commonly haul upwards of 3000 pounds in the bed. ~$350 for airbags in the back + the max towing package... I like it way better than the coyote with the payload package. Has better fuel economy and having adjustable suspension (rear airbag suspension) it rides smoother empty to
@TheDaltonmichaels
@TheDaltonmichaels 5 лет назад
from what i have figured out is that you can order fleet trucks through third party vendors , typically in my experience you can buy trucks from industrial supply companies for example fastenal. SO im curious if you could order the base diesel f150 through them since they are a fleet buyer.
@michaelbates5202
@michaelbates5202 5 лет назад
Dalton Michaels Got mine at a dealer that had a fleet ordered truck that wasn’t taken. I got a great deal on it.
@guyconnell2250
@guyconnell2250 5 лет назад
I just picked up a 2019 Silverado with the 6.2. I simply don't understand how the auto-stop feature is annoying. It is almost seamless and eliminates wasting gas idling at red lights. I don't get it.
@nlitenurmind
@nlitenurmind 5 лет назад
It's the stop and go traffic, congested stop signs, and max A/C shut downs that annoy me but that's why there is a button to turn it off. Plus you can put it in tow/haul or sport mode to deactivate.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 5 лет назад
Depends how much you like replacing starter motors, how much does it cost to change one on your Silverado ?
@nlitenurmind
@nlitenurmind 5 лет назад
@@CrimeVid Before I bought my truck I read somewhere Ford tested the stop/start and it was solid for at least 250,000 cycles. Which is about 70 stop/starts per day for 10 years. I wouldn't worry about it, dude.
@kaiserkase3462
@kaiserkase3462 5 лет назад
I don’t mind mind the auto start stop 95% of the time because the weather is so nice in SoCal (FLEX) but it’s annoying when I want the A/C on. Good thing there’s a button to disable it lol
@garys2157
@garys2157 5 лет назад
@@kaiserkase3462 It shouldn't shut down if the AC or heat is turned up and demanding power.
@60viking
@60viking 4 года назад
Really like these trucks. The 5.0 sound is enjoyable all the time. The power difference only shows up periodically. Plus i can't remember the last time i really raced some body, being and old fart.
@yamahschector
@yamahschector 4 года назад
Powerstroke has peaked my interest. My dealer said to go ecobost. I want the mpg and a little power for the mountains.
@matthewbond4536
@matthewbond4536 5 лет назад
I have a 19 2.7L XLT ecoboost with the Fx4 package its all the truck ill need.
@T-WashMD2019
@T-WashMD2019 5 лет назад
Hay Mat... how's it been running for you. I purchased a 19' a few weeks ago 2.7 STX
@raykrv6a
@raykrv6a 5 лет назад
Thanks for the review of the F150 engine lineup. I'm partial to the 5.0, but like the 3.5 Ecoboost too. I don't know how anyone would pay MSRP on these trucks. My HD 2014 Ram with Cummins was MSRP of 61,400 and I paid 51, 900. Nice discount and cheaper then a F150 I would buy.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
Get a 3.5
@glbligliliyglihglig
@glbligliliyglihglig 3 года назад
YEAH, But its a DODGE !
@pedrothemexican3360
@pedrothemexican3360 2 года назад
So cool how Ford is so considerate of the LGBTQA+ community by offering all the V6 variants.
@tasmaniandevil7610
@tasmaniandevil7610 5 лет назад
No second thoughts 2000 ford 4.2 v6 with a 5 speed standard . fast and good gas mileage . pushing 200000 . anfd still runs great . owned it almost 10 years and believe it would start and drive to california no second thoughts
@moses1142
@moses1142 5 лет назад
Good video guys!!!
@Jberenguer2894
@Jberenguer2894 5 лет назад
5.0l coyote supercharged is what I do
@mcf3778
@mcf3778 5 лет назад
For people with deep pockets its all about finding some take out mustang cams and intake and Adding a VMP BLOWER
@alvaromora5910
@alvaromora5910 5 лет назад
You would get terrible gas mileage though...
@mcf3778
@mcf3778 5 лет назад
Only if you put your right foot deep into it... Ain't like the 3.5eb gets great fuel economy when its doing 20psi
@alvaromora5910
@alvaromora5910 5 лет назад
@@mcf3778 superchargers are known for putting performance over fuel economy.
@mcf3778
@mcf3778 5 лет назад
@@alvaromora5910 that goes for all power adders once you get out of the vacuum range
@davidray4128
@davidray4128 5 лет назад
I drove the 2.7 , 5.0 and 3.5 when I bought mine. There was no way I was leaving with anything but the 3.5 eco. The 5.0 would be my last pick of the 3. 3.5 torque is wonderful.
@longranger5226
@longranger5226 4 года назад
Good info. I was sooo close to going with the 3.5 EB, but chickened our and went with the 5 litre for reasons of reliability and everyone kept telling me that the twin turbos cost $6,000 each if they ever had to be replaced. I’ve driven several 3.5s. The acceleration is, to say the least, impressive!
@copisetic1104
@copisetic1104 4 года назад
Every ford tech I have ever talked to picks the 5.0
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 Год назад
@@copisetic1104 a car engine in a truck used for towing isn’t a good idea, no real torque till 4000 rpm
@paulmartin8212
@paulmartin8212 5 лет назад
I have a2011 f150 xlt 2wd. 135000 miles 3.5 ecoboost. Average 19.4 sense new. Live in Ohio, been to California twice. Towed a Mustang from Ohio to New Mexico. This is a great engine.
@stevehayward7477
@stevehayward7477 4 года назад
2017 crew cab 3.5 eco. Just turned 40k. 20.9 mph overall avg since new.
@stevehayward7477
@stevehayward7477 4 года назад
Sorry mpg
@pryme2013
@pryme2013 5 лет назад
The sad thing is I'd take the NA 3.3 with 6spd if I needed the most reliable ford F150 option. 99.9% of ppl dont need more.
@jmcd1234
@jmcd1234 5 лет назад
I was lent one while my 5.0 was getting bedliner and tint. I was actually pretty impressed with it while driving around town. Didn't get a chance to test it on freeway.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 5 лет назад
If talking about larger options, I'd go Ford, but if talking about the base engines, I'd definitely go GM 4.3. That engine is phenomenal for it's size and weight. Perfect for lighter duty 1/2 stuff. If Ford kept/ updated the 3.7 or even 3.5 I might change my tune, but I feel it needs more than a 3.3 liter if not aided by pressure.
@vanillathunder8112
@vanillathunder8112 5 лет назад
I might get a 3.3 liter, is it a dumb buy?
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 5 лет назад
Joel Marlo I don’t think it’s a dumb buy, just depends on what kind of deal is out there and what your wants and needs are. The 3.3 is still paired with the older 6-speed auto, which isn’t as updated as the new 10-speeds but may be a better long term unit (though both maybe equal, kinda a crapshoot there). Sometimes you can find deals on the more powerful models too, so like I mentioned depends on what you prioritize.
@vanillathunder8112
@vanillathunder8112 5 лет назад
Alan Bowers I’m just a city driver and occasionally tow light stuff in the bed so I don’t need anything bigger, but they’re selling tons of the 2018 super crew, with the 301a package, so it’s kinda just a basic truck and they all have the 3.3l for around 22-25k in my area and I’ve been really curious if that’s a good deal? And if the engine is a good and reliable engine to have for years and years?
@MrMatt1923
@MrMatt1923 5 лет назад
TFL, compare the 5.0 to the 3.5 with equally optioned trucks. Trim, cab, 4x4 or 4x2, gear ratio. Preferably not in the mountains, but take what we can get. People might be surprised.
@Jv19979
@Jv19979 5 лет назад
3.5 will win
@rockie307
@rockie307 5 лет назад
Barely.
@MrMatt1923
@MrMatt1923 5 лет назад
They tie in the 1/4 and are close 0-60. 3.5 tows a little better due to the torque curve, but all you eco guys think your trucks are sooo fast, but most 5.0 you encounter have 3.31 gears. Try a 3.73 and it’s a little different!
@MrMatt1923
@MrMatt1923 5 лет назад
They never talk about the gearing in that video. I’ve seen other videos to support that equal optioned trucks are VERY close 3.5 vs 5.0
@jacobostruszka3352
@jacobostruszka3352 Год назад
I love my 2019 f150 4x4 3.0 power stroke I get 24 in the city most times and the best I’ve gotten on the highway was 32 mpg. I was glad I got it and I got it with the 3.31 locking rear axle
@thatrudager
@thatrudager 3 месяца назад
Good numbers! Sometimes people forget it is a Lariat with more weight. My real-world highest was 28mpg but I had to drive slower.
@HP.Customs
@HP.Customs 5 лет назад
Let’s not forget you can get the Ford Flex with the 3.5ltr ecoboost in it with all wheel drive. I drove one and I’m telling you now it’s pretty quick for what it is.
@brentvance3958
@brentvance3958 5 лет назад
We have a 2018 King Ranch with the 3.5, just hit 25k and avg 17.1 MPG from new. We have never reset the trip screen. About 2k is towing a 10k camper and my wife is a lead foot.
@TheDaltonmichaels
@TheDaltonmichaels 5 лет назад
they truly missed out on something epic by not offering the 3.5 ecoboost Ho , in a single cab rwd format with 3.73 gears. they could offer it in 1 trim only with very very few selectable options to keep costs down , they'd have a truck that would be faster than a dodge challenger easily. call it idk f150 lightning. lol
@Perry2186
@Perry2186 5 лет назад
A lighting should be available in 3 engine options 3.5 eco boost H.O. 6.2l v8 single turbo and a supercharged 5.0 yote
@kaiserkase3462
@kaiserkase3462 5 лет назад
Yes. Do it. Do it now ford!!
@justinw.2376
@justinw.2376 5 лет назад
Perry2186 what about the new 7.3 with a supercharger lol
@TheDaltonmichaels
@TheDaltonmichaels 5 лет назад
@@justinw.2376 its still a half ton and it still has to pass emissions testing and standards. if the 3.5 HO is as good as ford guys prop it up to be i dont see why only having a 3.5 would be an issue. besides you can already configure yourself a 5.0 single cab 2wd truck it you want , but only in xlt trim which kinda sucks. Also they wont let you have a 3.73 rear ratio in a 2wd single cab 5.0 powered xlt for whatever reason. but a dealer could probably make that happen after the fact and still be under warranty.
@justinw.2376
@justinw.2376 5 лет назад
Dalton Michaels we’re talking about a theoretical truck similar to what the old lightning was. And who cares what rear end the factory will give you. That’s never stopped people from doing anything.
@thomasdickason3884
@thomasdickason3884 5 лет назад
my 2017 Raptor when new would start stop in most situations but in the last year hasn't done but a couple of times.
@Ken-gv6sb
@Ken-gv6sb 2 месяца назад
My 2017 5.0 V8 has been flawless, I love it
@thanglieu9268
@thanglieu9268 5 лет назад
2.7 for me
@noneya3619
@noneya3619 5 лет назад
Get the 5.0 or earlier 4.6. There... confusion now gone.
@dalek.6171
@dalek.6171 4 года назад
I looked at those Engines and went with the 381-horsepower 5.7-liter V8 Crewmax.
@nboothful
@nboothful 4 года назад
ok so I plan to haul around +/- 1200lbs payload regularly, with occasional increases. no/rare towing. considering RC XL. which engine is going to be the most efficient for this?
@texteb
@texteb 5 лет назад
2.7 for me is doing well
@11riehldeal
@11riehldeal Год назад
any issues since this?
@texteb
@texteb Год назад
@@11riehldeal no!
@timmaw9559
@timmaw9559 5 лет назад
I'll put my 3.5 EcoBoost up against your hemi any day...lol
@kevinbennett2565
@kevinbennett2565 4 года назад
I know theres not much of a market but a 6 speed manual with these engines as an option especially with the 3.5 EcoBoost would be great. . Just being hopeful lol
@dapoppa2256
@dapoppa2256 3 года назад
Mr. Ferrari said the cheapest way yo make more horse power is to lose weight. I went from the 5.0 to the 3.5 EB on my new King Ranch, it is the better engine for pure driving experience. 19MPG in the city, 25?? on the HWY? WOW. In all fairness that was in eco mode.
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