The Future of the London Transport 2022-2050 (animation) 

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I was thinking the exact same thing. I could potentially get to Basildon before there's an tube extension to Beckenham Junction? Gosh

TfL wanted to take over South Eastern's inner London services but the government didn't allow that. Your best hope is for Labour get into power again soon.

That's why metro rail services should be taken over by TfL

Southeastern old trains ain't too bad

“….be like….”?! What kind of idiot language is this?!

@@heli-crewhgs5285 Nothing is more annoying then the whole "Them:" "Me:" internet talk.

@@heli-crewhgs5285 English is not first language for everyone.

@@heli-crewhgs5285 it's what some people for some reason say these days. I don't know why though

@@heli-crewhgs5285 what's your problem with this sentence

💯% agree ,so many stations north of the river already.

South East London will be, in their plans, a slum. Disgusting.

but at least you got networkers, the north of the river have aventras

The tunnelling in them areas are hard to do

They have very good connections with national rail anyway

LB Bromley keep rejecting an extension

Woolwich is fine - has DLR and Elizabeth line as well as national rail but agree with Catford and Bromley. More important is actually getting Thamesmead on the map

LB Bromley only want Bromley north used as is the only station without much purpose

Weren't there actually plans to include the local metro services of the national rail 'franchises' into the Overground? Feel like, this plan needed to have been integrated here.

yeah, but it might be very messy though

@@Bopper_ but it would help with navigation. Right now if I were new to London, and I looked at the TfL map, I would think that I can’t get anywhere in south London. But Southern, southwestern, and southeastern run really extensive and nice suburban services. The map needs to show this

@@lik7953 Thameslink services are now on the tube map.

@@lik7953 Imagine the number of tourists who wanted to go from Waterloo to Vauxhall ended up taking a long detour

Perhaps the solution is a new outer circle line, one that circles the out boroughs rather than the inner ones?

Or one that connects the end of the line stations?

@@StackerNoobUK there's already the london overground (clapham junction - highbury & islington)

@@ymodnar The overground is too central. I’m aware of it’s existence since I used to live in Islington and work in Richmond. I’m talking an outer circle line which roughly follows the London inner ring road

why not use multiple lines

Meet the proposed Crossrail 3. Bascially plans this but it isn't very concrete at all :/. Crossrail 2 is already uncertain after overrunning costs of first Crossrail. Give crossrail 3 a search but yeah no promises but it would be a great line taking over parts of existing national rail

the trams sort of already do that

@@abderian2399 lol, it’s nowhere near comparable to Central Line. I’m talking about east west direction going through central London of the south of the Thames

@@RyanTaylor2000 to be honest the south-central area is already covered by existing lines

@@abderian2399 all the lines that are on the south of the river lead up to north, so you have to go around to get from one side to another on the south of the river, besides there are many areas where you have to walk for miles before getting to a tube station even just a south of river

Ur first

Outside of the core it’s mostly above ground.

@@pepperpillow especially so south of the river.

@@xander1052 south is underground in my view its the west side that's outside, I visited both side the west seem to be outside railway. I could be wrong.

@@A.D.540 South is currently 90% on the surface.

Just a shame may be waiting into 2030 at the earliest for it

Got held back over Covid few month ago driving old Kent road. Seeing box Station board up where Bakerloo passing

Nah the demand would not justify the cost. There’s low demand to go from small economy areas to more small economic areas, and even if someone wanted to, for example go to Croydon, it would be a lot quicker to take a train that cuts through the city than circles around it.

@@emadtalukdar6340 Although it would reduce congestion on inner city trains and shorten travel times. I guess it would also reduce traffic as fewer car journeys. But yes there isn’t high economic demand true

@@emadtalukdar6340 but people still travel from north to east / south to west and it’s inefficient to have to travel into the city to travel back out again

@@emadtalukdar6340 I disagree, I think with travelling there is a huge need for people to get to the main airports without needing to go in to London just to get back out of London.

Yeah, if only they did that, painted it yellow and called it the circle line

Is there a plan or date that TFL will upgrade Camden Town? It desperately needs a new entrance and more interchange corridors

@@francisrogers9824 I'm not sure if there is a date, but there is a remodeling animation for it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QFBhmlhOn_4.html This guy actually makes a lot of CGI animations for remodeling stations.

@@bvetubeyt seen his one for Holborn. They need that too

Not happening until the Camden Town upgrade is done. And that project is on hold right now cause of funding issues

What's the percentage of transport projects that have been completed by their projected date? 5% probably. Crossrail, tram extensions, rail lines, stations...they're always at least a year late and usually more. The Piccadilly line was meant to have new signalling and trains by 2024. The new trains are now 2025 and will probably be later, the signalling won't be done til at least the end of the decade.

you'll need to wait another 20 years at least though. Probably best to not hold your breath

@@Jwm367t And another 10 more years if you count starting the project, getting people and the council to approve of it, tackling enormous amounts of paperwork, navigating the problems presented with Crossrail 1 and finding available land for a platform in St. Pancras, the busiest and most complex part of the operation.

For the foreseeable future

once the project is complete in will give people new job , reduce waiting time and increase income, i dont think this is the end for tfl.

BRO MAYBE IT WILL REVIVE THIS EXTENSION IF THEY HAVE MUCH MONEY :)

WHY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF LONDON AND ME WANTS TO REVIVE THE NEW CROXLEY RAIL LINK ON THE ABANDONED RAILWAY LINE MAYBE IT WILL BE REVIVE SOON...

@@HugoTheAestheticGachaTuber2K9 Indeed

The North desperately needs a line to connect all of the branches sprouting out. To travel from High Barnet to Edgware, you have to go all the way into Camden and back out again.

I mean the southeastern rail exists

but i see your point yeah

I heard that there is some issue with the soil, too sandy or something, but I’m not sure.

No Tube to the slum.

Very true

Extending the Elizabeth Line in that direction would involve running it on already existing tracks, converted for Crossrail usage. It would be improving the existing services, and many stations might be rebuilt/improved, but likely won't involve new tracks - from my understanding, at least.

I disagree, we have overground trains into the city and you have to then get in the underground. Compared to the rest of London, the underground connections to the city are seriously lacking. Would be good to get an underground service, much like the Central does for Epping Forest on the other side of the Thames.

@@1990SammieJ The tube won't go all the way to Medway. That is what Crossrail is for, serving the outer towns and cities (such as Reading, Shenfield and Epsom) that are out of reach for the tube

I would suggest a route that splits from the mainline at Dartford, travels to Bluewater and then loops back round to Ebbsfleet International.

why not go crazy and put a station on bexleyheath high station, LMAO

Only if someone could pony up the money, as would need to be a tunnel

@@goodwood-rc4nx Tunnel under the M1. The rest is intact, I think.

It’ll be a much efficient link tbf

London resort is now fully dead. Extending the line to Gravesend would be a nice improvement still

Where will it go. There's no space and Chelsea blocks everhth

@@andrewcaicedoortiz3397 DLR probably can go from Uxbridge to Hammersmith or Shepherd’s Bush or something

@@maritime_history1912 it's a copy of the picadilly line.

@@andrewcaicedoortiz3397 yeah, except for shepherds bush

You do realise that DLR stands for Docklands Light Railway and the Docklands are in the east of London.

The Victoria is the most overcrowded line. Extending it would make it even worse. IIRC, the Greenford branch has relatively short platforms. It wouldn't be economic to do crazy things to extend them just so the few people that use the line don't have to change trains.

Indeed. Also I would like say that Crossrail 2 is not likely going to be extended to Basildon and Grays. As the c2c line via Basildon and Grays is already full and c2c won’t lose the Fenchurch Street-Grays via Barking service.

Or maybe a liz branch down to Clapham Junction?

Tell you the truth, I don't think there's ny point in extending the Vic line to Croydon. Buses already cover that route to Brixton and you can get the Lviction much quicker than the tube would as its a direct train.

good god, more shoppers on the liz line is definitely not what we need.. it is absolutely wild seeing these 200m long trains full to the brim with people! need a train every 2-3 minutes at some hours before we encourage more people on :P

Yeah that was also going to be planned 😂

Agreed. Clapham Junction after Crossrail 2, Northern Line, and the proposed Crossrail 3 will basically become one of the busiest and largest stations in Europe, and will probably need an entire revamp.

BUT IT MAY REVIVE IT AGAIN BCS PEOPLE WANTS THE EXTENSION

america as whole is behind most of the world when it comes railway unless you including africa or high mountain nation. america needed to catch up.

What is the other metro system?

@@evolutionxbox I don't know what you call it but there's two maps. One for inner and one for the outer suburbs. I travelled it extensively. London has an entire system the pre-dates the London Underground. It was later merged and now has private companies running it all. Like NYC it goes beyond the ridiculous false boundaries set decades ago that London (like New York) outgrew. London's system covers the suburbs of Southeast England too. They are way ahead of New York. The system is huge. The Tube only covers a section of London north of the river and a tiny bit to the south, so mostly the core and inner suburbs with one or two exceptions that were converted from standard rail. We know now that London will never build another Tube like the others as they are going for the faster, longer and larger systems like Crossrail in future that will cover the area that is London in all but name. As an american, it was clear to me after so much time there that London's boundaries are ridiculously out of date too. The suburbs of London are as large as the largest US cities and only rivalled by NYC. London has suburban lines that have this low density suburbia that has grown along them and between right down to the south coast. It made me laugh when some Londoners said they were "going to the country" - they meant the suburbs! There was no functional countryside where they went where the farms were being eaten up by low density housing with traffic jams in the evenings. The rail system I'm talking about serves all of those suburbs.

@@richardwills-woodward5340 you mean the railway network? It's especially noticeable in South London because it runs in these giant corridors to the big hub stations like Clapham Junction, Victoria, Waterloo and London Bridge that connects lots of the South East like Surrey, East Sussex and Kent to central in under 75 minutes. The lines goes up onto brick built archways and viaducts when you start to get into zones 3 and 4 of London, that's possibly why you think it's more like a metro. In terms of train frequency actually these days it's sort of used that way admittedly, and they are trying to get the frequency of trains on some commuter lines up to 10-12 trains an hour so it "feels" more like a metro system.

But, unlike London, you can catch a New York subway 24/7. Try getting being a shift worker in London… getting crammed into a bus with 100 other people on their way to Heathrow

I agree I live Brentford Off Kew Bridge Junction no Tube link and it’s Zone 3 area that’s bit Disappointing

A good proposal though. Would like to see it with a station at Mansion House and an extension to Moorgate and that Branch too.

Too expensive! A LRT system would be a good idea though!

You've got national rail but south London has horrible soil for building tunnels

Like the Overground line that already runs through Finchley Road & Frognal down to Richmond?

Good idea .. Haifa would be surprise for many!

no

There's plenty of surface rail down there and I believe the tunneling conditions are poor.