The Future of TV is Bleak 

congrats on the pin

Shut up

drew will never stop the grind 💪

ALREADY???

that was quick

this comment is funny thank you

i love you

I literally put Drew’s videos on to get me to fall asleep, listening to Some Guy getting scammed by a moon-pod is a 10/10 sleep inducing experience

@@pannajohns5255ame I literally also just let the tv play & let Drew, Danny Kurtis etc yell at me ab sht they dont like (pro tip:always use playlists so it will just auto-go & *heavily utilize tv sleep-timer if you have one, trust😂) Killed my last tv that way

Lmao who are you

Same. It had me thinking, "Who's gonna tell them?"

Yeah, like...it's literally made of code, every single one of them is, and there's a whole damn lot of code to source from! Not only that, but it doesn't have the same issues as writing or drawing where it lacks individualism, because basic code doesn't need to have any! There's also that time Redigit, creator of Terraria, told an AI to write a line of code and mentioned how scarily close it was to writing something coherent, so-

Ye if anything, the arts are going to be the hardest to replicate using AI

even faster

learn how to use AI

It's essentially the exact same phrase as "missing the forest for the trees"

@@VeronicaGarcia-tl2wb This exactly. It is a good line, but it's not exactly original lol. I do prefer the way he said it but that's just what poetry is honestly.

Well, AI art exists now, so those haters will get a W.

​@@ShinyTillDawn ai art will never truly replace artists, because it doesn't actually have creativity I hope

@@ShinyTillDawn only for some time. if ai replaces art, at some point there will be no creative ideas circulating, just the same, equally regurgitated ideas on repeat. because you need humans with unique perspectives and experiences for something truly revolutionary and creative and amazing that speaks to us. I’m not excited for a future which will most likely run itself into the ground after ruining real artists.

@@ShinyTillDawn AI art is for people with no proper eyesight or functioning brain. I can always, ALWAYS tell when something is AI generated. It's a good thing I'm an art critic, because I spot mistakes within seconds. For others it may take a good minute of searching an image to tell if it's AI or not, but I can tell from so much as a thumbnail of the image. AI art will never replace artists. If haters want dogshit art for free, they can have it all they want. Some of us actually ENJOY real artwork.

​@@blockytheblock1 Well considering AI art requires human input to even do anything, man-made art will always have a place, especially among people who want tailored pieces. Honestly A.I. art is only consistently good for concepts, filler pieces, and porn. It's not impressive to make, so true art-lovers wouldn't really care for it and not only that, many galleries and shows despise A.I. art with a passion. I am sure there will always be a place for man-made art. A.I. art can easily just be considered the Wall-Mart brand of the art world.

Yeah thats the most frustrating thing, do they not understand that most of their hobbies/interests are due to creatives like writers?

That's what I was thinking. Most of these people no doubt partake in watching movies and shows but yet they'll say that art is useless and not a real job. It's very strange.

@@jard4864 entertainment is just as important as basic necessities to me, what is the point of surviving if all you do is work, eat and sleep.

As someone who just got a degree in film, it angers me to no end when people think art is an easy job or a lazy profession. It requires so much time, money, dedication, manpower and creative skills.

istg, like ain't no way you've never liked a show in your life

I think there was some guy who wrote something about this way back in the day, can't remember his name though. Carl something?

yo wanna become a communist? it's pure drip

It's always like that... I used to work at a spa in South Africa. We the therapists work the hardest deal with attitude from entitled clients and the stress of perfection when it comes to nails and waxes. But we got paid peanuts no peanuts are big.. We got paid sesame seeds!😒

Replace “writers” with “workers” and “show” with “industry” and you’ve figured out our society

The workers always get the short end of the stick

Lol future teacher here, please relax unless you plan to actually do something about it. Nothing is more infuriating than seeing people say things like "omg im so mad about this" only for them to not vote for helpful public education laws. You can literally make a difference if you choose to. Your anger isn't helping us. We are already angry.

@@nomoretwitterhandles hi firstname lastname! I am also a future teacher! We’re currently talking on the internet, where people just say things. You almost certainly cannot tell what someone is doing in real life from a RU-vid comment alone. I definitely hear you on your frustration, but it’s similarly unhelpful to tamper lighthearted comments pointing out an injustice. Why don’t we relax here on the internet as well, and talk about something nicer? I’m real passionate about math and philosophy and I’d love to teach it in the future. What about you? I want to hear what you’re passionate about!

@@nomoretwitterhandles lol current teacher here, please relax unless you somehow speak for the entire worldwide teacher gestalt. It is reassuring to know that, even if they are unable to affect change, that others are upset at our situation, and we may one day be able to convert this into actual change.

Teaching is a fucking hard job. But i hate this typical "anti-authority" society we're all encouraged to support now. "Fuck the pigs! Unless i need them because ive been shot, stabbed, robbed or raped. Dont blame people commiting crimes, its the police that are the scum because ill get likes for posting it on social media!" And that trickles all the way down to teachers. The staggering amount of comments on vids where teachers are caught up in some bullshit and have absolutely no hope of being able to do they jobs youll find people saying the most disgusitng things. "All teachers are useless. They need to be fired. I dropped out in year because my teacher wouldnt let me smoke in class but she wanted me to fail anyway." People finding any reason to justify their own terrible behaviour by blaming anyone with the tiniest bit of authority. Funniest thing to me is its always genuine criminals, like the ones that boast about their crimes that openly hate cops and blame them for being in jail (not the crimes they commit) and privileged middle class whities that have had no negative interactions with police and are the literal first person to call them in any situation. But will slander the ever living fuck out of them onlibe to garner likes from their equality simple minded progressive friends.

meanwhile usa out there spending literally almost a BILLION fat ones on their military while under funding their schools, underpaying their teachers, serving a joke as mid day meal. ill never understand corporate greed and the us society

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EXACTLY

I'd rather the computers automate the office jobs. Then again, the office is 90% busywork that would go away with the obsolence of the 40-hour workweek.

This is literally why I feel so hopeless about the world right now. Thanks to the few corporations and people who have their grip on the government and how the US runs, I am terrified of actually pursuing my interests in a career, because I feel like I can be so easily replaced by a machine. Machines aren’t meant to make art. Art comes from the human mind and soul. It’s so grotesque how people are beginning to push for this skewed order of things. It’s terrifying. I’ve heard people say, “if you don’t wanna be replaced by the machines, you gotta work on the machines.” Jeez. What about free choice? What about free market? Why would I want to spend the rest of my life suffering on breadcrumbs and pennies while servicing machines that do the things that we’re supposed to do?

​@@ohnoherehego2158 Because the idea that someone out in the world isn't as miserable and materialistic as them is terrifying in their eyes.

@@ohnoherehego2158 ​​⁠ I think there’s a lot to be said about keeping your passions as passions and earning your income through other means. Many artists and creatives who do creative work as a living do deal with burnout because what was once a joy has become work. With that being said, I think the current state of things begs an important question: *How important is keeping the humanity in art to you personally?* If this is important to you, and you feel that you would not be able to see the point of living if you don’t get to manifest the fruits of your creative labor, then put your all into making your creativity your life. You’ll have to work within the system for a bit, but focus on honing your craft, and learning about the system itself so that you can find the cracks in it and find your niche. It’s hard work, but don’t lose hope! If you’re passionate about what you want to do, and you’re in it for the long haul, then it doesn’t matter what’s happening in the world, because you’ll have decided that creativity is your LIFE. I hope this helps!

i wanna like this, but it’s at 420 likes so i feel like it would be disrespectful to ruin it

@@andrewekker938 theres 481 you can like it now

@@andrewekker938 u can like it now, andrew

@@andrewekker938 Andrew, I expect your like now.

@@andrewekker938 Andrew, what are you doing? Like it now.

his fantasies are an interesting combination of dull and unpleasant

​@@louschwick7301i was going to say me too but actually maybe not

Yes, but that is about 90% of the Writer's Guild at this point. Let it burn down so that it can be re-made better. Imagine that this strike creates the opportunity for *actual* competent writers to step in now that they don't have to contend with nepotism writer-activists force feeding us their shoehorned political plot points every film, show, short story, etc.

I really hope The Weeknd got his bag for that.

@@xdsp The strike won't change who is writing and who isn't

He's like been in a billion of other videos over the month

The writers and actors have spent the last several years revealing how much they hate the rest of us, and now they’re acting surprised that we don’t care about their strike. They also haven’t given a good reason why they should be supported, and no, “those people are richer than us” is not a good reason.

@@ChudDin hey dude, my whole family is union. if you want to be wrong, go do it somewhere else.

​@@ChudDinwhat are you even talking about? What writers hate you? Did actors burn your toast? How could an entire industry possibly hate everyone else?

@@ChudDinwho hurt you

I feel like this is the case for a lot of industries and it's so very frustrating

exactly. the things they're asking for is not even much at all

@@gaj30 But if they give a raise to the writers, how will the CEO of Warner bros. buy his 3rd house in cayman island. smh

It might help if the writing wasn't so piss poor.

@@youdontneedthis6804 I have a feeling you don't know much of anything about the grueling work that goes into those roles for comparatively little pay-

too busy fighting CEO of racism

Straight to jail

sowwy >_< its hard to be ceo

​@@JokeswithMitochondria shhh I'm trying to lay low

God damn you John Television!

It’s such a great video :)

I saw this. I'm a professional artist who teaches art to children and adults, so I want impart some of my wisdom onto you. 1) You say yourself that you are underage. You have yet to spend your life on art. Try not to stress too much, and enjoy your time being a kid. Childhood is temporary, but art is forever. 2) If you're an artist to seek validation, you're not alone, but don't expect what you crave. You don't need people like Drew to stand up for art. Us artists and art lovers already know AI art is terrible and we don't like it. But we also have trained eyes, so we can tell if something is AI generated or not. We love art for the heart and soul, not for the "perfection" that AI art fails at being capable of producing. Your options for being an artist will never go away. 3) If you're still worried about AI art taking over, just get better at art. I know that sounds silly, but it's true; AI art can only reproduce a bunch of things it has been given, and it's usually always messed up. AI struggles with hair, hands, collarbones, and details (such as eyes and eyebrows or tattoos and clothing wrinkles). Practice what AI sucks at, and your art will stand out. Or just be completely original; add a bit of abstract to your artwork. I don't mean Jackson Pollock levels of abstract (unless that's what you want to do), but even surrealism can boost your originality. Just remember, one of the oldest paintings we ever managed to find was hidden in a cave. It wasn't any Mona Lisa or Statue of David, but it is amazing in its own right. Humanity speaks through art, and if you're not speaking through your art, you're just painting.

Don't worry, AI art is just a fad. An annoying, harmful, and dragged out fad, but still just a fad. It adds nothing to the landscape of art and is designed to fail. I wish you luck on your artistic creations. I can't offer you much advice or help since I just began my art career not to long ago, it's tough but so rewarding and creatively fufilling.

Good youtuber like him make the strike less influential. YT is where most a large portion of people already get their entertainment.

@@nomoretwitterhandlesI just watched this video and am so glad I came across this comment. What you said about the humanity shining through is beautiful. It’s so heartening to read the comments on this video because sometimes it feels like I’m alone in my views on ai art.

I'm afraid of it but also excited to see what things like it could do in the future for people who aren't corporate suits looking to make even higher profit margins.

It's crazy how the same crowd of people who all whine about how modern music is all bland and autotuned are immediately falling to their knees in worship of an online fridge magnet collection the plagiarizes real artists' work. I know it's apples to oranges, but it still makes my head spin.

Just write better than it lmao

@@tangytim6699 Wow dude you really solved all of our problems

@@tangytim6699 My god! How did none of us think of this before?!? We'll just John Henry our way out of the automation of the arts! Because that turned out so well for him

It’s honestly amazing there are any teachers at all in the USA. I don’t know if that’s the country you’re referring to but I’m not from there and I only recently learned of their terrible salaries, the threats of school shootings and the abuse they get from students and parents. It’s horrifying. Thank you to all the teachers! 🙌

You are so cool. Coolest mom award goes to you. I love this energy.

WV did it

Unions are strongest

My family is made up of teachers. Two of them are special educators and it's insane just how poorly they are treated by administration

The reason is they’re jealous of their hard work and talent. I myself had a chat with a guy who uses ai because he can’t draw, he tryed but since it didn’t all come at first he gave up.

​@@bowen13 the only person responsible for 'gatekeeping' if an individual doesn't have time or talent to do something is themselves. If you want to learn something, you make the time. And we're not all going to be the best at everything, but we can still try our best and give it a shot and guess what! Still enjoy it. Nobody is stopping people from trying. Sure, AI is a cool tool to use to make amalgamations of other people's work, but all it will ever be able to do is copy and compress and imitate. If it makes people feel better then good for them, but don't for a second say that anyone is being prevented or gatekept from sitting down and making art themselves. It's a lazy excuse and provides the foundation for a lot of entitled behaviour, like we all deserve to succeed at everything. That's a very slippery slope.

Because they're boring.

@@bowen13 "No sympathy" say goodbye to all art jobs in the future then.

@@bowen13 Artists are only terrified that corporations see this as an opportunity to cut costs and you know they'll sacrifice quality for a couple pennies. Not only are our paychecks at a threat , but AI is going to stagnate art and significantly slow any development as it continues to regurgitate art already made and without artists consent. While turning away artists from seeking a job in art and continuing to push out art that doesn't produce anything new, you're practically making art a purely corporate experience.

But how is elon musk going to afford to build his personal cyber yacht?

Automobile Workers are also fighting tesla over in Northern Europe

Wait that mf isn’t rich? I think I need to make some apologies…

@@IAmTheRealHim bro, run me my money back. I had to spend a week in the Walmart baseme...

Except the Walmart cashier doesn't hold all of their customers in open contempt.

no, it's like treating them that ''orangemanbad'' jokes just aren't funny anymore. Only 100,000 times you can say ''orangemanbad'' and get laughs. What a shame. Oh how i pity them.

LITERALLY

It’s been dragged through the 7 purgatories of hell😔

💀💀

We're now entering the blonde drew phase. I wonder what arc he will go through.

I actually like the way it looks now, it’s like nicely dirty blonde

@@BlueButterFlyXOXO A beach episode is next… that or the hentai cut

Couldn't have said it better I see so much attention thrown at little mermaid when everyone already knows it's bad and mediocre and everyone complains about all the bad movies but keep paying for them so companies keep making more bad movies. It's like a machine pay for what you want to see.

People keep focusing on the Hollywood remakes so intensely that they don't realise we're in a golden age of TV right now. Some of the best, most well-written shows have come out/ended in the past few years!!

Writers are definitely partly at fault, they are the ones writing it after all

@@DameOfDiamonds yeah you're definitely as cringy as your name says lmao The writers aren't all-powerful beings in absolute control of what the shows end up being. A lot of them are pressured to make rush decisions, or have their good ideas discarded, by THE STUDIO HEADS AND THE EXECUTIVES. Did you even watch the video? Drew explained how bad writing is constantly the fault of the higher ups. Anyone who calls themselves a "weeb" is such a loser

let's not pretend writers are forced to take these jobs. if everyone who worked on a project deserves a % of the profits when it succeeds, then they also deserve a % of the blame when it fails.

i think they drag it out as a strategy to keep writers from doing this more often

They'll win like fast food workers won. It will just make the AI for writing TV and Movies come out faster and better.

​@@DarthObscurityA.I. can only produce writing that's good if there is a human being on the team who has the expertise to differentiate the good writing generated from the bad. A.K.A. Writers...

@@DarthObscurity AI will come for your job too buddy.

Writers will win, but a ton of them are gonna get fired. That's kinda how strikes work, unfortunately

huh? i’m pretty sure he writes his own videos.

@@swagxnajno no chatgbt and a team of writers do it!

@@freya2093 r you being sarcastic cuz i literally can’t tell.

@@swagxnaj yes lol

That's actually why Drew hasn't made a video in months. The writers' strike came early to him.

I'm sorry but what evidence do you have that the same people who complain about sequels and remakes only watch those? I complain about them and don't watch them. Boom. Point invalidated.

So what will you do in the future when anyone can generate a well-written story and just pretend they wrote it? The technology is going to get to the point where unless you see the person creating/performing their work right in front of you there will be no reason to believe it wasn't AI-generated.

@@InternetPersons Okay. Just ask them about the story and writing process then as well as their inspirations. If they just generated it they would be dumbfounded and have no answers for you.

@@kingblue2632 I mean all media you consume in general. You're not going to be able talk to every Youber, every musician, or every artist you enjoy. And AI use won't be limited to just people who don't have any talent. It's going to be used by people who know what they are doing as well. If hypothetically someone like Stephen King were to generate a novel that's convincingly like it his writing style he'd know enough about the writing process to convince people he wrote it.

@@InternetPersons So you're afraid REAL writers could speed up their process using AI? Oh, the humanity. Out of all human trends, art in every way has seemed to stay with us no matter your culture or time. AI is temporary.

ok

Don’t give them ideas.

In at least one case, it's literally true. One room was basically a closet that only three people could fit inside at once.

fr 😭😭

They’re saving so much money on building materials

I too, thought the same thing

That's what I was thinking. Imagine Megan Ganz, writer of my favourite puns in my favourite episodes of one my favourite shows- one of my favourite experiences- delivering my pizza.

My reaction would depend on the movie, they might be better at delivering food than writing.

@@Zeus17xthat would be pretty stupid that you went to see a movie written by someone you think deserves to serve pizza rather than write a movie lol

@@aryanram02 How would you know if the writer is pizza-tier without seeing the movie first? 🤔

cool, but The Office fucking sucks. It's terrible.

Oh wait is this why the show is like “michael is gone for the next season and now the show is last and bad for a while”

@@bmatos5785 no, the strike happened during filming of season 4, which is why there’s only 14 episodes. Steve Carrell leaves near the end of season 7.

@@kmr32393 ohhh ok thank you!

Exactly, I don’t get the disconnect either. They keep saying they’re sick and tired of reboots, sequels, and remakes but also don’t care to support anything that would incentivize people to create original works that are entertaining and thought provoking. People have gotten so used to quickly served slop that they don’t think about all the work needed to get high quality content. Instant gratification and profit don’t mix with art and long lasting goods.

Amen. Couldn't have said it better myself.

There's kind of a weird fascist push in the world right now, and a lot of misplaced anger. Assuming the base reason for that is people are having a harder time getting basic needs met. Creativity suffers under that trend...along with a lot of other things. People are scared.

Yeah, his videos are really comforting, I do the same ong

@@pissboy1867 literally- also I love your username, it’s beautiful

@@jamiekremer Drew's not a great person unfortunately, he broke into someone's house.

​@@OfficialMidnightRubyyeah it was mine :/

Unfortunately most working adults only have an 8th grade reading level.

Give it time.

@@RSmith-qd2uk PlagiaristBot's creative writing is never going to be more complex than a high schooler's summary of someone else's work. It's all "X and Y go on adventures and live happily ever after".

only ai coin bros believe in something like this

have you ever watched most of what's airing right now? you don't need anything above an 8th grade writing level to make content for 99% of viewers

Tis only natural

Especially considering none of Hollywood could exist without it's creatives

the death of 2d animation is genuinely so incredibly sad for art as a whole and nobody is talking about it :(

@@kittylett sadly a lot of artists are trying to fight against it but so many art jobs now just requre u to know 3d software :((((

real before the strike writers for animated media have repeatedly been mentioning how they're paid EVEN LESS on their scripts compared to live action ones despite there being no substantial difference to warrant less pay, which should say A TONNNN about the respect of that entire industry receives.

All the jobs are getting taken over though.

What jobs would classify as shitty that AI could do though?

​@Gin Andromeda honestly, tech could theoretically replace most jobs requiring unskilled labor- the problem is the hardware is not advanced enough vs the software I think. but there are ones that could theoretically be replaced now, like garbage truck operators, most factory workers and their managers, etc. jobs that are menial and don't require a huge amount of oversight, variation, or dynamic thinking/processing. but people like researchers, creatives, computer scientists, etc are the worst type to replace with AI and tech for the exact same reason. those are jobs that absolutely require an advanced level of education, critical thinking, creativity and adaptability that AI doesn't possess (and there's no hardware to match)

@@ginandromeda1618 Basically anything that is unappealing for a career. Office jobs, sewage maintenance, hell; even fast food workers could theoretically get replaced because of how template the menus are

@@registeredjopper well said! Machinery can only be as competent as the person controlling it. AI can replace workers, but it doesn’t have the independence to fix any potential issues at a work place. There might be some successful films written by a software, but the audience isn’t stupid. The gimmick will wear out as soon as it’ll become a gimmick and studios will be forced to hire writers again. They may as well save time and let the writers have their way

Honestly, at best it would have to be a strike for a month and even then.

Teachers and even doctors are striking in the UK at the moment and their demands definitely are not being met. Instead the government just demonises them in the mainstream media.

​​@@himenyx153 Good luck finding all those teachers on a good week, financially speaking. And the general public is already disgustingly apathetic to every service job imaginable, there's no way a teacher's strike of that magnitude would really make a difference.

​@@iantaakalla8180 strikes are meant to be indefinite until the demands are met. just striking for a week will not accomplish anything

Not every single teacher. A couple of schools max going on strike is what ever. But if everyone at any job all decided to stop working at the same time, the owners would be forced to meet the demands.

Ooooh, where did you come across the production process, if I may ask? As someone who is re-discovering as an adult how much fun the special features of movies are, I’d really like to get back into them. I thought I’d find them on DVDs, but it seems not all DVDs have that extra material.

the writing in that movie is abysmal btw

He made that? Cool

And people keep paying to see it.If lion king live action remake didn’t make a billion dollars they would stop making them. The average movie goer wants what they know

Devil's Advocate: Most of what the writers are pitching isn't any good.

@@Vaniity_Velvet How would you know?

@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Because none of them are getting shows

​@@Vaniity_Velvet circular logic is great because it's so circular

Capital propaganda

Perfectly said

This delusion never fails to make me laugh, people have been saying this for years, and it still hasn't happened, and it won't happen in our lifetime.

"lick the boot until they realize they’re being crushed beneath it" Cringe, do you really have to use that terminology for an otherwise good point. It's beaten to death now.

@@dekumutant you can't be calling people cringe with that username

Drew gooden explain this.

Omg he's here

That's actually so interesting, always nice to find the OG TayZonday randomly online

CHOCOLATE RAAAAIIIINNN

Chocolate rain

on an alien christmas this would never be a problem

Yeah it's practically outright theft

Writers also don’t share the loss if their work ends up being a flop and the movie doesn’t profit. They don’t have any risk, so they miss out on the reward

It kind of makes sense. A streaming service pays for the right to stream your show. Thats about it. And if any more money is made.. its to the distributor. It’s insane

Does the tea lady, camera operator and the cleaners get a proportion of each show? Were do you draw the line? I think it's quite complicated.

@@donbunson5031the tea lady and cleaners don’t create the actual show. for the camera operator it’s complicated, but for people like the writers and animators they absolutely deserve royalties. if a show makes millions of dollars there is zero reason (besides capitalistic greed) not to send the people who created the show a couple hundred bucks each month.

Either way, working during a strike makes you unqualified to join a union, so it's a good thing you didn't.

Bravo

@@sandy_paul Pretty sure it was AMC actually

Say it louder for those in the back!

EXACTLY

Bravo Peter

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Yes but money

I aint reading all that😂

​​​@@flopper297 good for you? Weird flex ngl.

​@flopper good for you, buddy 🎉🥰🥳🎉

@@flopper297 congrats you are illiterate 👏👏

imagine if someone said "yeah you couldve easily written BCS with chatgpt and you couldve just asked it to decide which shots to use for which scene i would personally make sure they will never see the light of day if they said that out lout

I wanted to hold his hand and tell him it's all going to be okay. Definetly the most emotional and touching rant I have seen from him. And I am not saying that as if that is a bad thing.

@@BorderKeeperyou should watch his rant vid ab a bagel, his emotions in that video are unmatched

@@Heather-ip8sd he was so mad about that bagel

video games?

They do all the screwing up and then ask you guys to put out the fires. Very unfair.

It seems so delusional to me. Like how can you even convince yourself the WRITER isn’t as important?! Literally the person crafting the thing lol.

@@DonnieLouis i'd argue otherwise. writers aren't AS importent. they're the MOST important part of something. because tell me, when's the last time you watched something without caring for the story? for me, the last show i watched without caring for the story was Euphoria. and i only watched that show because of the relatability and the vibes. but other than that, i dont think anyone watches anything without looking at the story. and writers are responsible for the story so them being not compensated enough really makes me infuriated.

Reminds me of a great interview between Conan O'Brien and John Cleese (2 of the greatest writers of all time) where John Cleese talked about writing back in the Monty Python days. He talked about how CEOs and Share Holders don't understand the "writing process". A CEO expects to walk into a room and see every writer sitting at their desk and typing away (like most cubicle/crunch jobs), when reality tells us that's not how writing works. Most the time, writing includes about 45 minutes of wandering around doing meaningless tasks (like sharpening a pencil 15 times) and then morphs in to actually writing for 15 minutes. To most CEOs, they see this as laziness and a lack of "quality production". But THIS is what creativity looks like! It's 45 minutes of mulling over thoughts and getting the engine going, and then spitting the past 45 minutes of culminated thoughts into 15 minutes of genius on paper! This is all to say (and the reason why we have this issue and will continue to have this issue), people like CEOs who are heavily Left-Brain oriented will always struggle immensely attempting to understand the process of the Right-Brain because they just don't think like that. Thus presenting the issue of writer's being looked at as numbers, and not as important pieces to the success of a product (this goes the same for inventors/engineers who's creativity tends to get disrespected)

American moment

To be fair, writers are considered skilled workers meaning value and are an insane part in the actual product. The average person could assume that they make a decent amount. Btw skilled workers is a term referring to people like doctors, artists, writers, scientists, etc; Workers who need to develop a certain skill for work and not just manual labor

and what does "doing ok" mean are they struggling to pay for rent and are forced to work 2 jobs, like Amazon workers or are they making 60k a year and are just complaining because they want more money I get complaining about being overworked, but if the issue is purely about money, then how much is enough because i feel like if your middle class, you ain't got nothing to complain about

@@thedudecalledalan9095 You talk out of your ass too much. Come back when you have a job and a mortgage to pay along with your regular bills like a car payment, insurance, utilities, etc., etc. and still there's nothing left for emergencies or actually going on a vacation. Most people can't afford to get a house or start a family these days. The middle class is dying out. You can't even compose simple sentences so it's clear you don't pay your own bills little dud.

and they only think that bc theyre genuinely convinced that writer = woke = rich

I especially hate the argument that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt with nothing but remakes, sequels and recognizable properties so why shouldn’t chatgpt replace writers? Because not only is automation making films mediocre, but even remakes and adaptations require a lot of writing and human input from concept creators. Good example: the Super Mario Bros movie. Sure, a Mario plot is pretty simple. But the concepts of the mario world are complicated to translate to screen. So you need a writer to incorporate world building into the story elements using familiar Mario elements. You need storyboard creators and concept artists to design scenes and backgrounds, making sure those elements make sense, like how would the mushroom kingdom’s logic operate on screen or how would a level look in a landscape? And of course you need animators and graphic designers to make it all happen. If you had AI do it, it might look like Mario, but it won’t act like Mario. Same goes for Marvel, Star Wars, Disney remakes, DC, fast and furious, and every other major franchise. Nostalgia only works when it is made carefully. It’s like pizza. Sure, we all love a great pizza made to perfection at a restaurant or higher end pizza place. But sometimes we just need something to tie us over and is cheaper but familiar, like Little Caesar’s or a frozen pizza. It tastes like pizza and looks like pizza. It’s not the best but it’s satisfying and you know someone actually made it. Nobody wants gas station pizza. You don’t know where it came from, how it was made, and you don’t even know that it’s pizza. That’s ai

idk bro if AI ever advances to where it can make better scripts than human writers, as a consumer the choice is pretty simple. But that's at least a decade or two in the future. Right now writers should be able to reap and enjoy the benefits of their work. If we can make a tool that can generate content leagues more unique and entertaining at a far faster rate than humans every could, why wouldn't we? The whole "sucking the life out of art" argument is so redundant and pointless. If you like a piece of media, you're gonna like it regardless of if it was generated by AI or human, that argument feels like what Charlie's father in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory would say about robots screwing caps onto toothpaste tubes

considering we have absolutely zero instance of a movie written by ai and produced typically, your aspiration that "having human writers are the reason that so many people can come together and feel less alone" is a completely untested hypothesis. we are still at the early birth stage of AI development and usage. this is a tool that democratizes so many difficult jobs, making them much simpler to do/learn. this demonization by creatives labeling all AI generated creativity plagiarism, as if all artists don't develop their own creativity by studying prior art every day. it's complete hypocrisy.

​@@kingkarlito at the end of the day, using AI or bots can be expensive, ChatGPT is an AI that created specifically to assist in writing, yet even he can make grammar mistakes, create non sense and boring stories etc. If AI gonna take over the world, they would have long time ago. We now have Google, machines making our foods etc, but we still need humans. If AI and robots can take over the world, jobs like cashiers, front desk jobs etc would no longer exist. Yet they still exist, AI wont take over the world-- at least not around 50 or even century later. Unless we can be like Japan, where bots and machine are favored.

@@Amodh1257 what you're describing is impossible. an AI cannot, and will never be able to write original works of fiction, with elements of theme or philosophy or human understanding. to achieve the level of complexity and quality you are taking for granted, AI would need to literally be a sentient being capable of thinking and exercising free will. that's fiction, the same fiction you've been consuming your entire life, the very idea that an algorithm can surpass a human being is a literary device, it's a trope that goes back several decades. humoring this idea, art is a human construction, it is a form of expression and communication, it's primary function is as a link between people. an AI, fundamentally, cannot achieve this. there is no personal background to consider, no lived experience, no actual opinions or contemplations, no commentary track explaining WHY certain decisions were made. there can be no why to art if there is no human being, as human beings are uniquely aware and interested in meaning and purpose, an AI cannot ask questions, it can only give answers. i really don't know how much clearer i can make this point, i can't even really parse where this mindset of yours comes from, have you just never consumed a piece of art before? i feel like the purpose and value (not monetary value) of art is self-evident

I am so sorry to learn this, keep you head up dude and if you can please fight for your rights and unionize! I am a hobby writer, studying to code so this particular strike hits home on both fronts. People don't realize how garbage AI is, with it's hallucination problems and generating data based on existing data. It has potential to only automate things which are structured. People can't be replaced, so it's about damn time we start treating them better.

This plague has been going for ages now. Movies being made in less than 2 years (from scripting to the theater), and many scenes only taking 1 day to record sounds like a bunch of shit being thrown and hoping something sticks... And many artists cane out about this. Really hurts how this, for the longest time, doesn't sound like it has an end...

i hope you guys unionize and strike next, good luck

I have heard they put unfair time crunches on your departments. Vfx is still art. I've been interested in learning how to become an amateur effects artists, any tips?

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I hope it doesn't stop with the entertainment industry, either. Practically everyone who earns a wage/salary in today's world has good reason to strike.

general strike!!!

AGREED!!!

Least based aro ace person (you are incredibly based)

Bro said anime and manga industry

the peak of irony. ive been seeing ads for ai technology everywhere and it feels so dystopian now

Keep coping harder, you'll have debt and no job. Hope Starbucks still has spots open lol

@@99Plastics Synthwave Hyena

​@@99Plastics my guy with that pfp and username u look like ur about to tell me how to mine etherium. Sit tf down, you couldnt even get an interview at starbucks.

edit: im officially a fucking idiot and forgot to mention the first reply- i was using @SynthwaveHyena’s logic. i support writers, im using their shitty ideas to tell them that ai will only boost shitter movies Hope you cope harder when Disney releases the 23rd toy story because without writers they can do anything they want, and its mid because ai combines things together to make a product, not make a new product. sorry bro, but remakes and reboots will be everything in media if ai can replace writers. why try to create something new when you can just ask chatgpt to make a reboot and make more $$$ of the same franchise?

They are so foolish for thinking consumers won't notice or will be ok with the quality decline of work without writers, animators, etc or if they try to use AI.

How

@@love13f Jesse would’ve died in S1 for one

@@mergieismoronic Not really true. The decision to keep Aaron Paul on for more seasons had already been made by the showrunner before the writer’s strike started. What the writer’s strike did alter was the overall ending of season 1. Originally they were planning to end the season by either 1) Skyler discovering Walt’s deception after drug dealers raid their home or 2) Walt watching Tuco murder Steve Gomez.

@@mergieismoronicthis is one of those pop culture myths, up there with “the scene where the joker fiddles with the detonator was improvised”

@@YodaOnABenderwait thats a myth?

You can make the claim that AI cannot have original ideas, but how can you turn around and say the opposite is true for humans? Both need training data to be able to produce coherent output. In the art world you would talk about all works being derivative, right?

@@fruitguy because humans have life experience outside data they’re trained on. AI can only learn from prior art, humans learn from life.

Because humans can change how much a product is inspired from what thing. An ai deprives more equally, as when you give it a respond and searches it up in its database, it'll take everything it gets and combines it together, unlike a human which can decide what to include more/less. I asked ChatGPT to make up a country, with a name and other important things multiple times. Normally, a human would of picked different names, but ChatGPT picked similar names, and I had to specifically ask not to use the same names. You may think "Oh, just do that then"! But the problem is that it doesn't change its inspiration, unlike a human. (And even when I asked to change the names, I only got a few names and then just the name with a slight variation.)

@@InfinitySike AI doesn't have a database nor does it weigh things equally. Current models can give higher resolution answers for things it has more training for, so obviously it could give you better answers if it relies on interpolation of real-world information. But humans do this too: Westeros is an upside down version of the British Isles. ChatGPT is optimized for being a chatbot. It is not supposed to be a creative storyteller. You could make an AI which is much better at this even with current models, and there is no telling what is possible with future breakthroughs.

It’s really interesting to see people who say that AI will replace most art forms because they’re based on the HUMAN EXPERIENCE. Most movies and shows I’ve watched are about things HUMANS can relate to and understand better

It's the same with everything. When the postal service turns to shit it's not because postmen are lazier than they were 30 years ago, it's because they have one guy doing the job of 3 people now. But the general public is literally retarded and can't see past the of their own nose, so they always think problems with a service must start and end at the front line.

I mean the industry will be to blame, but the writers will be at fault lol

oh nooo not the higher ups underpaying... who coulda seen this coming1!!1 If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile because of this strike, I don't care who it is, I'm blaming everyone The execs are at fault The writers are at fault The industry is at fault Hell at this point I'm blaming Saturn for not being in retrograde

@@Amodh1257 oh yeah. Everyone is absolutely at fault here. The industry DOES indeed suck

@@Amodh1257"If a show I've been waiting on for more than half my life gets turned to a hot steaming turd pile.." Based on the Minecraft profile picture, half of your life is only six years 💀

of course the Elon Musty Fan Club wouldn't support the strike! the vast majority of Twitter Blue subscribers are bootlickers who want to replace everyone's jobs with AI and will do anything it takes to help the rich get richer and make the less fortunate suffer even more than they already are. they are so out of touch with reality that it's astounding! I would say that it's laughable, but it's also lowkey terrifying tbh. 💀

Anyone with a blue check on twitter is probably the biggest idiot you’ve ever seen

People that pay for Twitter blue are automatically 5 times more insufferable

People believe what’s on twitter?

I use twitter to argue with gen z and looking at cats

That's an absolutely brain dead take & is embarrassing for anyone who says that. The VAST majority of Hollywood writers are not even close to rich.

I've not heard a single person call any writer "rich"

If you didn't wanna work at Starbucks, you shouldn't have gotten that doctorate in underwater basket weaving.

Wouldn't consider them any different fromthe people who thought essential workers weren't "essential" enough, but then would continue to use the services they provided....

@@mariokarter13 Yes but at the same time if Starbucks doesn’t want strikes they need to treat workers decently. There’s a reason why a lot of companies struggle to keep good employees. All the fast food places around me have signs up that say “Urgently Hiring” for this reason. Those low end jobs can just be changed like shoes so there’s no reason for employees to stay where they are mistreated. I kept quitting jobs until I ended up at a video game store where I can just play my steam deck all day.

do itt goddamniiit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most people are marginalized in the sphere of workers rights these days bud.

​@@FeiFongWang "you can't talk about that person who is dying! We ALL die!!!"

every time i hear someone downplay the labor that goes into art, i show them one of my works and ask them to paint it for me.

@@casadastraphobia I'm just pointing out that it's a bigger problem than just with writers, your little rhetorical technique doesn't apply here. I never devalued the strike or writers.....

​@Bono Larusso I work in workforce development and the arts industry is definitely one of the most broken and lowest paid, at least in my country. All workforces have it rough, but the creative industry is something else

Yeah, like a lot of the paychecks go to the big name actors when they're only one cog in the machine

​@@blakewhite3131 And the corporation that does nothing for the show or movie

The part that kills me with some people's reactions is they seem to think the writers concerns should be dismissed because they're Hollywood and they get paid a lot but like...they work for that money. They should be compensated for their work.

it annoys me to no end when people call those types of jobs "unskilled labor". if a job requires training, its skilled labor. fast food workers get trained, they are skilled workers

@@cherylmasonsh3 kinda makes me think they use that term for any job that doesn't require a degree

@@cherylmasonsh3 That's not what "skilled work" refers to. It's not just that some amount of training is necessary, but the difficulty of the training involved and the degree of competency it requires. Fast food work is called "unskilled" because almost anyone is capable of doing it sufficiently after a few hours of instruction; the only qualifier is to have a working body. Compare that to say, a plumber, which requires two years of training/apprenticeship that not everyone has natural proclivity to succeed at; or even the McDonald's manager, who has developed efficient people management and business skills that you only get through experience. There is nothing wrong with unskilled labor. Almost every person's first job is unskilled labor because, well, they don't have skills yet, and that's not something to look down on them for. The issue is that people are getting stuck in unskilled positions without opportunities to move up, or without the chance to develop skills that would allow upward mobility in the job market. There's a whole host of reasons for that that I won't get into; my main point is just that "unskilled labor", when understood correctly, is an appropriate description of some jobs.

It is so frustrating seing people say stuff like protests or strikes are inconviniencing them and saying the workers should just stop "being so greedy"

There's a bunch of overpaid dandys that are in a bloated industry that doesn't need them, I don't care. The Simpsons doesn't need 35 writers it needs to end, Kimmel doesn't need 35 writers it should be mostly about the people talking to Kimmel Everyone is only supporting it out of self interest, a "first they came for the Communists, then they came for the Jews" moment that we are watching right before our eyes. (That's an actual quote from Martin Niemoller I'm not just a lunatic anti Semite)

Twitter used to be a funny, occasionally insane place to spend some spare time on. now it's just a circlejerk of whatever Elon Musk has decided the people need to see (often propaganda)

Yeah same I had no idea that people were complaining about it LMAO

The beginning of your sentence makes it sound like you’re saying the opposite. Supporting the strike would be supporting the workers

Drew Gooden rants are always perfect and 100% spot on!

He is the messiah

@@JokeswithMitochondria Funny username

He tends to do that a lot for me. It’s crazy lol

Seriously, these writers are shitty and the unions still protect them

How can they focus on writing well for one piece if it doesn't pay them enough? They'd have to stretch themselves too thin to somewhat live comfily. It's easy to pin the blame on something or someone you hardly know anything about.

@@bowen13 you just watched a video that talks about how writers don’t get paid more for producing better work and how writers literally have been prohibited from producing the media they wrote and the best you could come up with is “they should be better at the jobs they’re not allowed to do”?

@@bowen13 did you not watch the video? The production companies try to cut them out of the process.

he explained your point in the video. did you watch it?

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i want that job! So hard to find it :(

And I hope they get exactly what they deserve, the boot. You're right not everyone can write well and the people who are on strike right now can't.

@@MamaMOB what exactly makes you say that?

@@MamaMOBlol ok

Agreed

Arcane inspired me to completely overhaul the story I've been developing since I was in middle school (I'm almost 22 now) the impact it had on my creativity and thought process is not to be understated. I felt like my third eye open with how effective the writing was.

@@corenlavolpe6143 I had a very similar experience. Good luck out there!

@@Amateur_Ambiance Ay! you as well!

How? Arcane felt so meh to me