The Game Kobe Took Himself Out of the GOAT Conversation 

I know this a touchy subject for us Kobe fans , but I think this game was the start of the "Kobe's not close to MJ" narrative. What do you think??? Business Inquiries: swishoutbusiness@gmail.com Instagram: instagram.com/swishout twitter: twitter.com/swishout snapchat: swishout

I think Jordan had the benefit of his career not being under a microscope like modern players tbh

Kenny Smith said it best... no matter what Kobe did, they would criticize. The pout game did hurt, but he got his revenge

I hate that people talk about 81 as if that was was the greatest game Kobe had.. this man out scored a whole team through 3qtrs when he dropped 62 on Dallas

Kobe: *takes 35 shots* Media: BALL HOG Kawhi Leonard: *takes 39 shots* Media: best player in the league Kobe: *visible confusion* (This is just a joke, it wasn’t mean to be taken serious but thanks for all the likes and comments, have had a lot of good laughs)

Judging a player's legacy on 1 game. Seems legit.

Kobe already explained it. He said the game plan was to get his teammates involved so they would be more intuned on defense. He knew he couldn’t outscore the Phoenix team by himself so he sacrificed his stats to try and win. I think this would help show how dedicated he was to winning more so than hurting him in the goat conversation.

In a wierd way I kinda respect what he did. They were the 7th seed, they ain't winning a chip, it's game 7 so his team is gonna play their absolute hardest. He could not have more clearly stated, "this team, playing at their absolute best, is completely terrible without me, quit bitchin"

this is tha game i gained tha mos respect for kobe he literally showed y’all wat would happen if he didn’t shoot tha ball a lot

So we're comparing the 2006 Lakers that Kobe dragged to the playoffs to the 2019 Raptors? Good one

Kobe trolled everyone with this game. He shot too much “he’s selfish” he didn’t shoot enough “he’s selfish”. There’s no winning. I’ll give him that one. Amazingly Kenny said the same thing before I even knew he was gonna say it.

“I love Kobe to death” hits different 😔

People like to point out that the MJ slander would've been astronomical if social media existed back when he played. But the thing about him is, he actually sought out criticism for motivation. That's where mental toughness comes into play. Hence, one could imagine the fire that social media would've lit under him and the amount of revenge games he would've put out.

That oversized suit Kenny is wearing, damn!

I don’t think 1 game can decide a whole players career retrospective, especially in a playoff game

You can win 16 rings back to back and 6 mvps and people will still say that Jordan better

For modern players, MJ has the most watertight argument for being the GOAT.

MJ will always be the goat due to his era and the way he was marketed.

This man said took himself out of the Conversation 😂🤦🏽‍♂️ didnt take himself out the Conversation ppl just nvr will put anyone above Micheal

Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m guessing game 7 of the 2006 first round between the Suns. Edit: I was right, had a feeling. This is the only game I have seen Kobe be so passive. It was weird to say the least.

Nobody mentions the level of competition that western conference had. Prime Duncan Prime Garnett Prime Nowitzki Prime Tmac Prime Nash Dont even get me started

You know you're early when the video hasn't reached 1k views

Kobe lost to a much superior team and managed to take them to 7 games. Those Lakers had no business competing with the Suns. MJ was losing to a lot of superior teams early in his career for same reasons Kobe was losing. If there was anything to remove Kobe from the GOAT conversation, its not this series. And how did you not notice what Kobe was trying to do? What got the Lakers the 3-1 lead was Kobe not shootin a lot of shots and focusing on getting his teammates involved and playing more defense. In the Game 6 he scores 50 and loses. In Game 7 he scores 20 in the first half efficiently and is down 20. Clearly from his perspective taking a lot more shots wasn't working, so he was trying to revert back to their previous game plan and it just didn't work.

I will always respect Kobe for this game because he proved how bad his team was

Media hate me but all the nba legend knows who i am

Lebron slander incoming

I was a celtics fan through all those years and still am but I’ve always had a lot of respect for kobe and admired his greatness as a player

Good video but a few points I want to address: 1. Kobe in the 1st half shot 8-13 for 23 points and they were down 15. Phil went to kobe at halftime and said they need to get other guys involved. If you remember that entire series they got other guys involved and had a more balanced approach which is why they had a 3-1 lead to begin with. During the regular season kobe averaged 40+ against the suns and they still lost 3 out of their 4 games. In fact the only game they won, Nash sat out. 2. Kobe in his tnt interview with Charles mentioned that going up against the suns they needed to get others involved. These were the Dantoni suns of 7 seconds and less so kobe scoring a bunch of points just feeds right into their fast break free flowing offense. They were trying to slow the pace down by pounding the ball inside. If they were going up against a different team who played at a slower pace I’m sure kobe would have been much more aggressive. 3. Michael Jordan shot 8 times for an entire playoff game in game 5 of the 1989 ecf against the pistons. To put that into context Doug Collins after game 4 said they needed to get other guys involved and Michael pouted and took 8 shots. This was before social media and the internet so everyone forgets. With all that being said kobe definitely deserves a fair level of criticism for that game 7 performance. Being a huge Kobe fan one of the things that drove me crazy about his games is that he would get into these extreme modes and stick with it. There would be countless games where he would spend one half just passing and not shooting at all. Then he would spend other half’s shooting damn near every time he touched the ball. He’s done this countless times throughout his career but everyone brings up that game 7 because of the magnitude. Jordan had a much more balanced approach and had a great feel of when to be aggressive and when to get others involved. Phil has alluded to this in a few interviews. Everybody singles out that game 7 to diminish his legacy but for every all time great (even Jordan) you can point out a game or games that were aberrations. It happens. That game didn’t put kobe out of the Goat conversation. Michael was just simply a better basketball player point blank period.

I love how unbiased u are

Kobe Bryant could''ve had the best game of his career in that game 7, scored 101 points and won, it still wouldn't change the fact that MJ is the GOAT.

LETS NOT FORGET THAT KOBE KEPT THE LAKERS FROM GETTING SWEPT IN 04. WHO CAME THRU IN THE CLUTCH OF GAME 2?? WHO LED THE WAY IN OVERTIME?? It wasn’t Shaq, Malone or Payton.. And if you expected (back in 06) for the 7th seed lakers to beat the 2nd best team in the NBA in 5, please reply to me because I’m having a hard time believing anyone expected Kobe and the lakers to win that series with that squad. That’s like expecting the clippers to beat the warriors after they lost game 5 this year.. cmon bruh. Y’all can’t be serious 😂 the suns were clearly the better team from the jump but since it’s Kobe with no squad, he’s expected to win. Lebron literally still gets coddled for getting swept in 2007 and 2018 because of the team that was around him but Kobe gets no pass. It’s Kobe so even if the lakers are the 8th seed with only 30 wins somehow, Kobe is supposed to win no matter how bad the team is. Lol

He was a main contributor to them losing vs Detroit and the PHX series for sure... you hit it right on the nail... Kobe my guy tho. If he didnt get injured the season with the Achilles he would of had a marvelous season maybe even legacy enhancing

watching this made me love kobe

I loved this game and made me love his gameplay more .

There is no definitive GOAT, every generation in the NBA has a GOAT. MJ had his time Kobe had his and Lebron got his 🤷🏾‍♂️

Thanks, I will keep my spirits high!

R.I.P. Kobe and everyone

The thing with MJ (as much as I love him) is that he can never be surpassed because people just pave over his greatest failures. No one talks about how he was swept in the first round three years in a row and was 1-9 in the playoffs before Scottie...no one talks about how the bulls won 55 games without him in 94 and were robbed by the refs from going to the ECF... no one talks ab when he did come back how Shaq and penny bounced him out of the second round..no one talks about the Washington years and how he ruined kwame brown( who looked promising). This is why Jordan for the mean time and for long in the future will remain the goat because time covers over those failures

That Mark Jackson comment was made at *halftime* of the Suns buzzer beater game, I wonder what Mark said on the postgame…

If Kobe doesnt belong in the goat conversation with MJ then no one does.

Just discovered your channel. One of the better ones. I subscribed. But honestly I can 20 moments Kobe never was in the GOAT conversation.

That's my problem with the Jordan story, it wasn't perfect. HE PLAYED MORE THAN 6 SEASONS. Everybody talks about 6-0. He played before 91, and after 98

RIP Kobe💜💛💜💛

R.I.P Kobe he was my MJ aka my goat😓😥😓

I remember those days when Kobe and Iverson were just two ballhogs for most people. He asked for a trade that summer too. He learned the hard way how took a team full of bums was hard physically and mentally, he didn't want that anymore. Kobe is in my personal top 3 ever, but I respect Iverson more on that point 'cuz he always treated his teammates like basketball players without throwing them under the bus. Kobe still a legend anyway, nobody is perfect, not even MJ.

Jordan (Greatest Career) Kobe (Greatest Player, Most Skilled Offensively) LeBron (Greatest Talent, Freak of Nature). It’s not that hard

This is why he's my favorite player of all time.

Kobe Bryant is my all time favorite NBA/basketball player.

2k17 nostalgia from the music

Make a vid about lebron taking himself out of the conversation cuz bron has done worse than Kobe here

Dope vid

Kobe is the goat of my childhood basketball memories. MJ is amazing. I saw him embarrass Russell with his final shot (as a bull). I saw him destroy anyone he came across. Kobe was ruthless, and carried the Lakers.

people think curry has changed the game but forget what mj really was back in the day. he will always be the goat and one tier above everyone else. even if mj played in todays era, he would still be the best player and it wouldnt be close

oh they really bout hate you for this one but its a great vid

1 game determines somones greatness very accurate ......

the media love praising Kobe and saying we miss him but they were the ones trashing him and his career during his playing days

People forget that game 7 Kobe had 22 in the first and his team was still down 15 at the half. He decided to go back to the game plan that helped win them those 3 games in the series but his teammates didn't come through. Besides, this game didn't take him out the goat convo bc most hoop heads understand how weak those Laker teams were.

Can you imagine if somehow that year it was Lakers v Heat... amazing

RIP Kobe the 🐐😤

Kobe 4 all time in my oppinion RIP legend

Kobe didn’t quit, He was labeled selfish and proved his teammates was trash and what did he do in 2008-2010? 3 straight finals appearances an MVP (should be more) and 2 championships.

Big fan of Kobe too, but I have the Black Mamba at #6 all-time.

MJ will always be considered the goat because everyone is used to being the best they dont want someone elseto go down as a goat

RIP Kobe

I also think since Jordan was da first to ever be dat great so he his always gonna be da best cuz no one ever seen someone like him ever before if Kobe had been first before Michael dey would definitely be calling him da goat n defending him da way dey defend Michael Jordon ! Fax

21 year old Lebron finishes ahead of 27 year old Kobe in MVP voting. That’s tuff.

Who’s watching after Kobe’s death😩💛💜

This video showed me why Kobe is the goat 🐐

Simple : He did at the wrong time. And he should have just first simply replied the criticism with manner.

Up 2-1 against the Detroit Pistons Michael Jordan took himself out out of the GOAT conversation by shooting the ball 15 and 8 times in game 4 and 5. He clearly gave up.... Sound silly? Yes.

Pop style beat always goes hard.

I remember this that did for me to because I felt he quit you can't worry about what the haters say do you fuck proving points.

Kobe still the GOAT for me. Look where he is now after his basketball career.

Jordan is objectively greater than Kobe any way you slice it. (Kobe my fav player)

Kobe is still in the goat conversation

That is What Happens When He Tries to get his Team more involved Kobe Is Still one of the GOATS🐐

Stop playing bruh, Kobe still the on the GOAT race

Kobe Bryant is and will ALWAYS be my all time favorite player, he's in my top 3, and you won't find a bigger Kobe fan than me But I must agree.

Kobe the 🐐

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MJ is the End all Be all Nothing wrong w being Lebron Kobe Kareem Magic There is just no debating GOAT

Kobe takes too many shots and he's selfish. Next game Kobe didn't take enough shots and that's selfish too.

Miss him.

R.I.P ☄️✨🌟

That game and the whole 2004 series took him out of it completely

*Next Video : The Series Lebron Took Himself Out of the GOAT Conversation [Dallas 2011]*

Subtly playing Pop Style in the background. I'm giving this video a like.

Kobe is the 🐐

Kobe is still the G.O.A.T.

Took himself out my ass didn't he win two more rings and a MVP after this season how does that make sense thats like saying Bron took himself out the G.O.A.T conversation in 2011 he redeemed himself. Kobe lost to a better team same way MJ couldnt beat the Celtics or the Pistons this video looks forced.

Kobe is the goat

Rip bean

more than any other sport? I disagree, look at Wayne Gretzky. If he had 0 goals he'd still be the leading scorer of all time. thats just nuts.

It’s funny. All these Kobe arguments are the same arguments Bron fans use. Ironic.

They hate cause they can't do what greats like Kobe can do, making all that money, winning championships and doing what they want.

That mj goat poster fire

Kohe is the greatest player of all time no one will ever be a killer like him on the court

INCOMING KOBE FANS THAT COMMENTED WITHOUT WATCHING THE VIDEO!!!!

So we not going to say anything about Kenny big ass suit he had on🤣😭😭💀

Bro at the end of the Kobe is a Legend in the nba they’re will never be another player like Kobe