As an MJ fan, I've always respected the Kobe Bryant fans and Kobe. There's no "plumbers and firemen" slander or "Scottie Pippen did it" narrative. They respect MJ and his accomplishments and MJ bros respect Kobe and what he accomplished. MJ and Kobe were made of the same material, both extremely competitive and ready to leave it all on the court to win.
We don’t respect Mj because he matched up with Bryon Russell and Nate McMillan for 3 Finals. You can’t justify either of those men being good players. They were plumbers and firemen 5 and 7 ppg for a career while never being Allstars All nba or all Defense. Y’all just don’t like the truth
@@yungesjosef And yet those "plumbers" made the Finals. The truth is Bronsexuals need to try and diminish MJ's accomplishments to make their case. We don't respect Bron because he got smoked with the Cavs and had to crawl on his hands and knees to Miami. He had to make superteams to run a weak Eastern Conference and STILL came up short 6 times out of 10.
@@countkilroygraf8816 Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Korver, Patrick Mccaw, Norris Cole.. A million people have made the FINALS!! The difference is those bums were specifically matched up with Jordan!
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconchGreat Take!! I feel like after 06 iverson career was on the downhill and Kobe went up a couple notch’s more, when ai wasn’t the first option in Denver it diminished his game because he was so ball dominant
He always gets more than he deserves tbh ever since he died, kobe fans has been riding on his meat like heck.. dude was the most overrated player until he passed away lol
@@cheezezlayer493 all the way to 2010, Detroit was a probably the best defensive team of all time 04 the Spurs were great 05 07 and Boston was great defensively 08 then Dwight in 09 Lakers were great defensively throughout those years as well!!
@@skap_attack Skap, you are being disingenuous and I think you know it. The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconchI hear you with AI but despite AI being a better scorer during that era, Kobe was still the better and more accomolished player overall by the time he got old enough (don't forget that he came straight out of high school at 18 so his numbers from 96-99 are of course worse than 3-year older AI). And he also was a more efficient scorer also during that time.
@@nikosofidemporas Read my comment or shut up. I already accounted for what Kobe scored IN HIS PRIME from 1999 to 2006, which are the prime years he spent during the 10 slowest recorded paces. Just say you like the player and stop being disingenuous. Kobe fans spend all day trying to explain efficiency and now you’re using it to discredit AI? Fam, did you forget Kobe was playing with Shaquille O’Neal for the majority of that stretch? And then, Iverson’s size is MORE THAN a valid explanation for a slightly below league average effective FG%. Compiled with his team’s lower than average pace and the fact that he had no offensive weapons around him. 2005, when he had Webber, Korver, and Iggy, he was above league average. Never again did he shoot below 45% in his prime (2004-2010). People just want to go off what they feel benefits their FAVORITE PLAYER and I don’t mind, but just say THAT. Stop trying to act like you’re being objective when objectively, Kobe DID NOT dominate the toughest 10-year decade of basketball. It’s not a fact, it’s a theory. It’s a fanfic.
@@officialconch nice try, but..... *NOPE* - Who was Iverson's Shaq?? Who did he have to share the ball with? - Your argument also shifted the context to assume that in 1996 a 17-18yr old Kobe could somehow be a 1st option on an NBA team, which is both a) plainly absurd and b) factually false. You could have honestly compared 18yr Kobe to 18yr old AI, not 22+ yr old AI. _You didn't do that_
Skap you’ve really hit your stride with these videos. Excellent pacing, epic background music, engaging narration, and most importantly you’re speaking pure facts. Love how you use analytics sparingly and only when necessary to efficiently prove your points. Otherwise, it’d feel like I was taking stats again 😵💫
Thank you! Always love seeing you on these comments. I appreciate you 🙏❤️. And what I don’t appreciate it advanced analytics lol. So I try to incorporate those as little as possible. I might do a video about how I hate analytics 😂
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@officialconch A.I. was great man but you need to account for rings. Sure he didn't have the same team in Philadelphia as the lakers did, but he certainly did with the nuggets.
@@C0Y0TE3 What does that have to do with anything I said? Am I arguing about rings or who the greater all time player is? No. So, you’re insecurity as a Kobe fan shows.
THANK YOU for explaining Kobe's FG/efficiency. Kobe played in the most defensive minded era in the late 90's and early 2000's.. I cannot take people who bring up Kobe's efficiency as a way to knock him seriously.
😂 Lebron played in the kobe era . In his prime kobe averaged 35.4 point on 27 shot and 45% Lebron in his 3 year , Average 31.4 point on 23 shot and 48% . Like i dont know yall argument , era is bullshit if ur great u can dominate in any era
Kobe was a pure jump shooter who could dive and dunk on you. Jump shooters hitting 45 percent per 10 jump shots is incredible. Jordan was a 49 percent shooter but no one bashes MJ. Those 2009 and 2010 league MVPs belong to Kobe his team won the titles. Kobe came out the toughest conference. The hate for Kobe was real.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Why do y’all keep posting that Luka quote without the context? His reason was because the players are better in the NBA. You have to guard everyone and you can’t sag off guys like you can in euro league and there’s no 3 seconds rule so big guys can just stay in the paint the whole game,
@@skap_attack You clearly never played the game at a high level. A guy with 1 MVP in 20 years is not in the GOAT conversation, neither is someone who rode Shaq's coattails for 3/5 titles while Shaq had all 3 FMVP. Super casual and disingenuous video at best.
Since 2008 Some TeamUSA players just want it that way in the NBA. KG, Allen, Pierce + DPOY Allen, perennial all-star Rondo -> KG and Shaq told LeBron he should leave (Shaq thought he was coming with LeBron back to Miami) and LeBron got so many TeamUSA players to join Wade, Bosh, Allen, Lewis, Battier, Miller -> then it was a bunch of Team USA Durant, Steph, Klay, Dray, Finals MVP Iggy (Steph never played for Team USA ever ever ever ever ever ever, he denied TeamUSA 6 times)
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Dude Kobe played with Shaq, Boston made a Big 3, even AI tried to play with Melo 🤷🏻♂️ only the Spurs constantly had a great team they ‘built themselves’
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconchKobe had a huge disadvantage during that span you listed, first off he didn't start his first two years and wasn't handed the keys and given free reign until 2005. Iverson had that luxury from day one. And then the big elephant in the room Kobe shared the court with the most dominant player of the modern era and was the second option offensively. Context matters also it's a lot cleaner to breakdown era decade wise but I do get what you mean if you want to be literal.
@@officialconchIverson couldn’t even shoot above league average efficiency most years, just stop. Iverson doesn’t even have a scoring season better than 03 Tmac.
Thank you for keeping Kobe's legacy alive and loud. I saw this other video talking about Kobe being overrated and it pissed me off seeing how many people agreed with them. Then when the lone commenters posted facts about how great Kobe was, many of those lemmings would shift goal posts to keep supporting their narrative.
With today's age of brainwashed, uneducated fans they'll agree with anything. There's actual LeBron fanboys who actually agree with Scottie Pippen's take that "Jordan was a horrible player".... they'll agree with any whack garbage that diminishes other greats to prop up their beloved LeBron
Used to hate Kobe back in the 90's. Thought he tried too hard to be like MJ. But during the late 2000's and 2010's, he earned my respect. Didn't see anybody else play with the sort of mentality I used to see back in the day.
I will never stop trying to do my small part to keep the legacy of the GREAT Kobe Bryant alive. He is talked about far too little when discussing the all time greats. I saw the athletics top 75 list a while back that had him 10, I think. Pathetic and laughable. How do these “journalists” even get credentials. Anyone who is old enough to have watched his entire prime should know damn well there’s no more than a small handful of guys you can make the case for above him. Hell I’m in my late 30s and I’ve been watching basketball since 1994. He’s one of the two best players my own eyes has ever seen. Many thanks for watching and repping Kobe 🙏❤️🐍
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconchyou should also mention iverson averaged more mpg both seasons for only a 20 point difference? iverson is great and is severely underrated, but scoring GOAT? I’d take Kobe all day, let alone the GOAT himself.
Excellent, exhaustive argument. I really think we should look at how players measured up against their contemporaries and own era, rather than just looking at stats across decades. As this video argues, a bucket in 2002 is not the same as a bucket in 2020.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconchverson was a scoring beast but the difference between him and Kobe is that Kobe was also an elite defender. Also Kobe was much more efficient at scoring And Iverson led the league in mpg in 5 out of the 10 seasons between 96 and 2006.
@@officialconch Allen Iverson had freedom Kobe didn’t have at that time in the nba. No I don’t agree with your premise. The real dead ball era in the NBA actually lasted from around 94-2011. Basically Kobe’s entire career as he ruptured his Achilles I believe in 2012. But Iverson had freedoms Kobe didn’t have as a young player. Kobe wasn’t even starting in his first two seasons because the lakers had Eddie jones and nick van Exel. It’s not an applicable comparison. Also the “inefficient” claims that dog Kobe is actually a real conversation with Iverson. From 1996-2006, Iverson may have averaged 28 points per game but he was also attempting 23.3 shots per game while shooting 42.1% and had an effective fg percentage of 44.8%. Kobe “only” averaged 24 points per game during that span but he also only attempted 18.3 shots per game. He shot 45.1% during the time with an effective fg percentage of 48.2%. Give Kobe the freedom to shoot 23 times a game from his rookie year and he would have outscored AI during this span. Iverson didn’t have to worry about coming off the bench early or sharing the ball with a player like Shaquille O’Neal. The hand checking wasn’t the thing that freed Kobe. Getting his own team without O’Neal did. Iverson was a great player but no where near Kobe’s level imo. ALSO Kobe had the burden of defending great players on the other end. Something Iverson never did. Kobe has 43 more 40 point games than Iverson. He has doubled Iverson in 50 point games. Iverson is fourth in career fg attempts per game behind only Elgin Baylor, Michael Jordan and wilt chamberlain. Old selfish ball hog Kobe was 15th below Lebron James!!!! Imagine if Kobe REALLY was selfish and didn’t have to worry about winning and defense. He would be the all time leading scorer in nba history. I mean no disrespect to Iverson but Jordan still owned 96-99. And Kobe easily had the 2000s. He was a great small player and he does have 4 scoring crowns. But this is a laughable premise.
Sir, I have been watching for the last 25 years. And I must say this is a winning take. Kobe is the best player of this century, post 2000. In my humble opinion, it’s not even close.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconch All day, I clicked the vid immediately cause I saw Kobe's photo and "hardest era" which I agree it's the hardest era the 2000s, but disagree with Kobe being the king of the mountain of scorers.
That was me 2 man spurs were my team Ginobli gets no respect lol dats ok we kno how great he was jus like Kobe Kobe was it plain n simple love these videos miss the man. I always comment on these videos cuz he meant dat much even tho nvr knew him whatsoever didn't even get 2 go watch him play live it's jus pure admiration end of the day he balled his heart out those were some great nailbiting games back then from tip off 2 end of regulation huh
I miss the big Fundamental. When the Lakers beat the Spus it meant something. Two great teams. The real championships happened between them. The East was just an after thought.
That's another reason the 90s are considered the golden era by so many basketball fans. It was tough defense yet satisfying scoring. It was a very rich era in terms of individual and team playing styles, with different schools collide. Very exciting to follow. Let's hope the next years will bring a similar hype.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
We can hope and with channels like yours we can also influence things. I'll be glad to collaborate, as I'm a writer and I also plan to follow a course of basketball performance analysis after this summer. This channel could be the beginning of something important for basketball fans who have had enough of superteams, cowards, and rude ignorants.
@@officialconch I think this comment is on the video and not on my comment. Anyway, AI is great and he should get much more respect, but please don't fall on the same Lebronlike mistake to talk about "goats" all the time. Four scoring titles is amazing, ten is out of this world. However, your analysis is correct when you say that the slow pace game began already in the mid-90s. Just look at the Bulls finals scores: not a single 100 point game in their two series against Utah. Or the FIBA/NCAA scores of the Spurs-Knicks finals. Yes, in another era Iverson would average more ppg, as Kobe would.
@@sotiriosdrokalos ultimately this channel just began as a demoralized fan of the nba for many decades who became sick of the current trending. It seemed like a more useful expenditure of time than trolling around social media platforms arguing with teenagers for a couple hours at a time. I’m still ultimately getting my bearings under me for content. Essentially I’ve just been telling the stories of making the cases that are important to me. I’m pleasantly surprised that others are sharing in my interests here.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Facttttttts I always said that when everyone was at their best Kobe was the best the league was at Its toughest ever and he was the best by far put some respect on bean name 🙏🏽💯🐐
@@dparks2856 with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Chris Mihm, and he only missed the playoffs ONCE (before the torn Achilles). LeBron missed the playoffs twice since coming to the Lakers.
@@dparks2856 He missed the playoffs only once and just like ya'll make excuse about LeBron being injured in 2019 and 2022 for missing playoffs, Kobe was injured and missed bunch of games that year. Kobe had a trash roster around him in a super stacked western conference. LeBron got swept by the spurs in 2007, that same spurs team had really competitive series with the Suns who beat Kobe in round 1, you act like he faced a bad team or something
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Love your work sir! Thank you! I was just talking about how major media in sports had LeBron James leapfrog over both Kobe Bryant and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Also pass Magic Johnson. Simply preposterous!
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
And when you see random no names like Cam Thomas at age 21 drop 40+ 3 straight times (something even LeBron never did at age 21 or younger) and dudes like Siddique Bey have a 50+ point game
Exactly right. When you see guys like steph and Lebron who are scoring the same or more in their mid to upper 30s than they were in their 20s, you know something is suspicious. Same can be said of the NFL. I’m a huge fan of Brady. I happen to think he’s the GOAT easily of that sport. BUT, when my guy was throwing got 3,500-4,000 yards in his late 20s to mid 30s then put up 5300 yards in his mid 40s, we know the game is weakening.
@@skap_attack Tom is the GOAT of this era of "Not hitting the QB". If Brady played under the rules of the 1970's, 80's and 90's where defenders could literally hit the QB after he threw the ball, He would have 2 rings at best and would have retired by age 32-35...Meanwhile Brady has won 4 Super Bowls AFTER the age of 35. Imagine if they could hit Joe Montana or John Elway and they played until 45? They would have way more rings All modern sports is trash, compared to previous generations. Modern players benefit in the Statistics more from the rule changes. Plus players are literally stat padding
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
The thing about the offense and defense in previous eras vs today's era is that defense back then we're allowed to make more "mistakes". A little swat on the offensive player wouldn't necessarily get a call. Nowadays, it's the opposite. Offensive players are the ones allowed to make more mistakes. A gather here, a carry there--adding up to a damn journey sometimes... Add a healthy dose of moving screens... No calls. "break the rules" on offense to your hearts content. And with basketball always being primarily about shooting the ball, it has become a lot easier for players.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconch AI was great those years. But to call him the scoring GOAT is too much. You also have to recognize the Spurs for being dominant during that stretch. They always get dismissed, downplayed, or simply forgotten just because they're the Spurs.
@@officialconch Have you read my comments? Did i say anything about Kobe in particular? I wouldn’t say Kobe is the scoring GOAT either. That wasn’t the point of my comment. I merely highlighted the stark difference between eras. You assumed i was a Kobe stan (questioned, rather), but it looks to me you’re an AI fanboy.
@@kookurikapooh You passively sided with the premise of this video with your original comment. So why is Iverson a stretch but Kobe isn’t? But since you’re not saying it’s Kobe- idk what you want me to say. I’m just pointing out how Iverson actually scored the most points in the toughest era and 43% isn’t bad at all considering his size and the other players who shot worse than him. I could list a page worth…
His 2008-2010 Finals run was straight up madness. 2008 and 2010 had his no. 1 seeded Lakers take on 50-win 8th seeds. It’s straight up blasphemy when these ignorant media members and hormonal teens try to rank Kobe as a fringe top-10 player all-time or even say that Curry is better than Kobe all-time.
The refs no longer call traveling, carrying or 3 seconds. Im sure there's many more examples but when the league doesn't enforce those basic rules, then the advantage is for offensive players. Keep blending the old with the new SKAP 👍👍
the stupidest new rule change is "a defender who _touches_ a player driving to the basket constitutes an *automatic foul* ..." what do you do to stop a player driving to the basket if you cant touch them? *YOU FLOP* hence why modern nba is plagued with an epidemic of flopping modern nba is only era where flopping is NOT laughed at as a cheap tactic. instead you cant be considered a good defensive player if you refuse to flop because its not "smart basketball"
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@ronmexico9066 I got a question why so much older guys hate on the new player? Is it cause the rules? I don’t understand it because the older gen path the way, they changed it cause of the older gen
Thank you for explaining eras to these idiots that dont take it into account. 2000s was the lowest scoring era and Kobe still put up those numbers and a bunch of scoring achievements.
Yep. I tried my best to make this as simple as possible. Yet those “idiots” you refer to are still having trouble understanding. I’ll talk slower next time 😂
@@skap_attack Keep the content coming. What about one where its measured by defending the championship (which is how Phil Jackson describes how he sees it in his books) AS BOTH an offensive + defensive captain + closer MODERN ERA Jordan 4 times defending the championship, 6 total as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer Kobe 3 times defending the championship, 5 total as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer LeBron 1 time defending the championship, 4 total as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer (*1 lock out season win 2012, super team ups) Hakeem 1 time defending the championship, 2 total 4 total as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer Duncan 0 times defending the championship, 5 total as BOTH as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer (*1 lock out season win 1999, poor free throws adversely effected some closing ability) Bird 0 times defending the championship, 3 total as BOTH as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer There is a champion every single year. Dominance is defending the title. The league goes not only did this player win a championship, they defended the championship. By age 31 no player had a better start than Kobe did with Kobe 3 times defending the championship, 5 total as BOTH a captain on offense + defense + closer
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@@officialconch100% agreed, kobe got a pretty sh1t team so his numbers became inflated in the years post hand checking and zone removal, by that tim Iverson finally got some small offensive help so his ppg went down a bit, but AI was the top scorer and never gets respect for real.
Someone publicly telling the whole truth about KOBE shouldn’t be as RARE as it is!!! Thank you! Those who watched Kobe knows. He is the second best to Jordan and that’s only because they refused to give Kobe help after 2011. Denied CP3 trade and still Kobe ruptured his Achilles carrying the Lakers.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
@official Nope it all started in 2000s don't know what league you were watchinh. And it continued untill 2011. Sorry to dis appoint you I know the scores. Defensive teams thrive in 2000s not in 90s. 2000s is the time when NBa finals both game 7 of 2005 and 2010 the s 81-74 and 83-79. Games of NJ, SA. Lakers, Rockets, Kings, Pistons, Heat that thrives in that decade will be always in the 80s to mid 90s score. Game 5 of 04 wC semis 74-73 game 6 88-76. Finals of Lakers pistons game 1 87-75, game 2 99-91, 88-68, 88-80 100-87. 2008 still in that pace. In 2010 NBa finals game 3 91-84, 92-86, game 6 89-67 game 7 83-79. Top defensive teams wins the titles. So you're Ai rebutt is false.
@@kaksmirknight5318 Go look at pace by season and tell me what the 10 slowest paces were. Now you’re just living outside of reality to fit your own narrative. This very video explains how pace affected FG%/ how defense affects pace. Stop lying just to fit your own narrative. You think it just magically started in 2000 and you really think it was still going post 2006? Just stop.
Absolutely and so much all time talent in that decade alone. Dirk, Melo, Tmac, Nash, Iverson, Kobe, Wade, Shaq, Duncan, Yao, LeBron, Pierce, KG, Howard, Wallace, Carter
Ehh I guess its subjective. I was born in the the mid-80s and my biased brain is going 90s all the way for the golden age. Hell, I'll take Pac, Iron Mike, MJ, PrimeTime/Neon Deion, and ANY 90s sports car over what we got today. Throw in the SNES too!
Love these videos. Brilliant content 👌. The fact that they have the audacity to talk about playing against plummers is still more challenging than playing against no defense at all.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
I was born in Almonte, Ontario home of Dr. Naismith. People who agree Lebron is the GOAT is like a litmus test to know if your dealing with someone who lacks thought and reason. These videos are a delight to watch, you’ve really done your home work.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Finally, someone put the realizes Kobe was just from another world. You took the game very seriously and he took no prisoners. If you were describing Kobe as the basketball player offensively and defensively domination...🐍💛💜 Awesome video
Kobe played at a time when there had been a cycle of "defensive inflation" and so there were teams loaded up with defense-oriented players. That's what put a premium on volume shooters: the lack of offensive options. Kobe's scoring was necessary given the supporting casts available at the time. And he was fairly efficient for a volume shooter. What made him special, in my opinion, was his ability to play elite defense while handling so much of the offensive load. This makes him comparable to MJ.
Your content gives me hope for humanity once again. Thank you my good man. Carry on with the excellent, exceptional, educational work. You are a basketball Saint. Good day.
Great content as always. NBA went downhill really fast post 2010. The so called King can’t even raise viewer ratings even if he was Adam Silver’s favorite poster child.
@@Ace-fe8gcno nba is at its lowest viewership since the 70s. the Golden Age of basketball regularly drew 25 million viewers. nba Finals in 2020s draw 3 million viewers _did you watch all five games of Nuggets Heat Finals or did you just watch highlights and the sports shows like everybody else?_ the game today is so ugly (no fundamentals, no defense, everybody travelling, just two teams running up and down the floor exchanging threes...) that nobody wants to spend three hours watching boring basketball the essence of sports is competition and fans dont see that anymore. superteams killed basketball
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
I really appreciate You and a few other guys who are Spreading the truth of how good Kobe was and stopping this slander that has been going on. .I always tell people stats are important, but they don't always tell the whole truth. Sometimes you have to look deeper into them and look at them within context.
Thank YOU. Kobe was my generation, and I'LL NEVER forget Kobe domination. Youre giving me goosebumps. Kobe was GLOBAL and was fluent in different languages AND PLAYED HELLISH DEFENSE while being A SOLO VILLAIN only FEW understood. This generation just doesn't get it! You sir, have a sub!
Kobe played in the toughest defensive decade without nearly as much spacing If peak Kobe played the last decade he'd be so dominant they'd change the rules to limit scoring again
There was a full team defensive approach against Kobe. And, again, DIFFERENT era and different time. No one shot particularly well in those series. The lakers were very solid defensively as well.
@@skap_attackso you admit your bias. I could tell when you pointed out Kobe averaged 1 point more during his best ten years without factoring in fg%, rebs, assists, player efficiency or the fact kobe shot 41% in the nba finals. Let's talk defense shall we? Lebron finished top 5 in DPOY voting FIVE times during those 10 years, finishing SECOND twice. We also went going to pretend like Tony Allen wasn't robbed of first team defense from 07-11.
@@jasonwood8023 nope not biased. I’m just an intelligent and educated adult who watched the entirety of both their careers. Perhaps you didn’t understand the video. Statistics were depreciated in Kobe’s era. Also Kobe’s BEST 10 years weren’t in 2000-2010. He was aged 22-31. I gave Lebron his BEST ten years. Kobe was at the very least equivalent to Lebron defensively. Kobe is a substantially better offensive player. Kobe’s skill set is arguably the best of anyone in nba history. I’d give Lebron the check mark at passing.
@@skap_attack Lebrons best 10 years are his career averages going into year TWENTY ONE lol. You can split his career in half and bang w kobe's best 10 year. No moving the goal posts either. First 10 27.6 /7.3/ 6.9 on 49% Last 10 26.8 /7.8 /7.8 on 52% Playoffs Lebron 28.5 / 9/ 7.2 on 49% career Kobe (98-99 on) 27/5/5 on 44% Finals Lebron 28.4 / 10/ 7.8 on 48% Kobe 25.3 / 5.7/ 5 on 41%, kobe shot 43% or less in 6 of his 7 finals appearances. That's not even touching on advanced stats/metric/pers. Man dies and y'all boost him into relms he doesn't belong. When you shoot 44% in the regular season, 41% in the finals, that matters. Especially when your trying to put them over efficiency monsters like MJ and Lebron. MJ is my GOAT btw. Head to head (16-6 Lebron) Lebron 28/7/7 Kobe 24/5/5 Lebron was 8-3 vs Kobe from 07-08 till 12-13 when Kobe had good team's.
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
whoa...OK. Kobe's my favorite player, too. And he's definitely the streakiest and possibly the most versatile and all-around skilled **scorer** of all time. AND a phenomenal champion of the highest order.... but no MJ, no Kobe. Among his 500+ other mind-blowing feats, '87 MJ was MVP _and_ DPOYT _and_ he won the scoring title @ 35 ppg...nobody else has had a single season quite _that severe_ before or since. And it's like an afterthought compared to all the other winning. Just ponder what that means for a moment.
If this is true. Kobes' stats on playing and shooting would be a lot better. He holds records for failed shots and losing games all by himself based on ball hogging, not listening to plays from coaches and team members, not liking him.
Mj is far better than kobe he is better at everything i dont of this bullshit passing the torch the fact is there Mj first and then lebron and then kareem . Kobe have to be better than magic which he isnt with the fact .
@@SamyHasnaoui-ol6ok you know what’s bullshit, is ignorant fans who think Lebron is 2 and Kobe “didn’t get close” to MJ. In reality, no one ever got close to MJ. But Kobe got as close as anyone. And a hell of a lot closer than Lebron.
That’s the funny thing is when people bring up eras, I tell them that “if you want to bring up eras you better start considering Kobe then” and then they go silent.
As a supporter of your channel and work. Please, keep your integrity! You have a lot talent for this. Remember this, integrity can't be taken, but only given away. The process of your videos and the editing is sublime. The mainstream can't touch you and channels like your's.
You are making a Video so with so much work and details, and there are still People who disagree because they are blinded fanboys of LeBron or they are blinded haters of Kobe. Keep up the great work ❤
The 2000s era is the most difficult era in the NBA history while the following decade is the most easiest one because that era are the eras of superteam and 3 pts shooting that makes today's NBA are becoming a comedy show worst than WWE. 🤑
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
I don't even have to think that hard to remember the high flying dunks of VC, pre Splash Brothers era 3 point snipers like Reggie Miller and TMac, and the versatile offensive bag of Kobe. Steph in recent years (away from his crazy 3 point barrages) and Jokic are recapturing some of that magic I loved in the late 90s and 2000s (except that Lakers vs Pistons finals, that was tough to watch).
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
My favorite athlete of all time. BUT I still view him through an appropriate lens. I’m just trying to magnify the lens that I see him through so that others can understand how undervalued he has become. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Many thanks for watching and for repping Kobe 🙏❤️🐍
The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
Its so strange... I always hear about kobe's inefficiency, but having watched him myself, he did not seem inefficient at all. He looked like he got buckets. They say all sorts of stats to make him seem worse and my brain was like, "i don't know how i know this is wrong but Its definitely wrong". Thanks for this video, it clears up everything. It really boils down to 3 things: -Pace (only era were game totals were not in the triple digits) -defense (especially in the west) -people not accounting for era (kobes efficiency was good for his era)
4 mvps>1mvp 4finals mvps > 2 finals mvps 19 all nba selections > 15 selections 13 all nba first team selections > 11 selections 19 all star appearances > 18 appearances 10 finals appearance > 7 appearances Lebron more points rebounds assists blocks steals, better % all over the field. Kobe in game 7 of the 2010 nba finals 23 points 15 rebounds on an abismal 6 of 24 from the field 0/6 from 3 for 25% from the field with 2 assists. Lebron In game 7 2013 finals 37 points 12 rebounds 4 assists 53% from the field. 50% from 3 Game 7 2016 nba finals 27 11 & 11 on below average effiency but still a triple double. Lebron>Kobe and it’s not even close
@dominic 6 finals losses>2 14 yrs of super teams 20+ yrs old > 0 Media Voted Player Award > Most hated by media player 4.8 travellings per game> 0 3.9 flops per game> 0 Played as Le GM 10 yrs > 0 2 bronze in international team> 0 Le flop 3 teams > kobe 1 Kobe got 12 time defensive teams> le flop 6 Kobe got 81 pts, 65 and 62 in tough D era of NBa> le flop 0 Kobe got 5 titles with out super team > le flop 0 Any more falseness you want? Hahahaha!
Hush. Kobe's better than LeBron. All those empty stats led to 6 Finals losses on great teams. Give Kobe wade and bosh and Kyrie and love and AD for over a decade and he gets 8 rings with "better efficiency." Kobe's 5 rings > LeBalcos 3.5 rings
Nick wright and Colin cowherd are the main reason why new age NBA fans hate Kobe. They brainwashed these fans thinking he was never the best player in the league or not even top 10 all time
Kobe Bryant wasnt the best player on that first lakers team that would be Shaq so you cant say he dominated for that long maybe from like 05 to about 2010 he was the best player give or take.
I dunno who old the dude who runs this channel is but he sounds relatively young which makes his knowledge of the game (even back to the 70s) and critical thinking ability all the more respectable. Well done, good sir.
You can certainly make the case. But I think we can agree, around 94-2011 was the true hardest era. I just broke it down by decade. But if we extend outside of decade range, I’d say that 15 year span was THE DEADBALL ERA in the NBA.
Thanks bro for nothing but facts. We're living in an where looking the part is more important than being the part. This is the age of smoke and mirrors!
Y’all can’t show 1 rule change, intended to make scoring harder for individuals, or teams, in the early 2000s, because all were made with the intention of making scoring easier, for the individual, & team, & they all eventually did just that.
@honor Simple as allowing zone D in 2001 allowed defense tp swallow a dominant offensive player. Dum dum you are. Now, put physicality to those 5 defenseive players who can whack you on your fore arms pushed you with out getting a foul. Hahahaha! Your done with your fraudness!
Skap, you are being disingenuous and I think you know it. The staunch “2000s era” wasn’t actually 1999-2009. It was 1996-2006. The reasoning is that the NBA had 9 of its 10 slowest paced seasons between that stretch (1996-97 through 2005-06). The only outlier was 1999-00, which is currently the 19th slowest. The player who actually dominated scoring in _this_ era was none other than ALLEN IVERSON. He scored the most points of any active player between 1996-2006 and won FOUR scoring titles in that span compared to Kobe’s one. Furthermore, Kobe didn’t actually win any scoring titles until the handchecking ban. Still, his 2005-06 scoring peak (post-handchecking) was only 2 PPG more than Iverson’s 33 PPG that same season. Iverson totaled 19,115 points by the end of this 10-year stretch. Kobe was second with 16,866. But even if you argue that Kobe was on limited minutes, from just the 1999-00 season through 2005-06, Kobe and Iverson were both north of 14k points, with Iverson having the edge (14,286 > 14,111). Even if you argue that Kobe was the second option, from just between 2004-05 and 2005-06, Iverson outscored Kobe 4,679 > 4,651. I can’t include any further seasons because they don’t meet the criteria for a bottom 10 pace. What’s more impressive about Iverson’s scoring is the 76ers played at an even slower pace than most other teams during his scoring title years. 1998-99 (10th slowest pace), 2000-01 (11th slowest pace), 2001-02 (5th slowest pace… and an explanation for the sub 40% FG percentage), and finally, in 2005, they were the 2nd fastest pace and wallah, Iverson averaged 33 PPG on 45% shooting from the field. All-in-all, he won all of his scoring titles during 4 of the 9 slowest paced seasons ever, including _the_ slowest season ever. If you’re truly a fan of appreciating greatness and not just a Kobe stan, you need to recognize this. Iverson, _not Kobe_ , dominated SCORING WISE in the toughest defensive era. Throw in the fact he was 6ft tall. AI is the scoring GOAT!!!!! 🐐
You're being disingenuous because the criteria was DECADE BY DECADE, you're cherry picking years that suit your argument. Kobe would have won more scoring titles (but less rings) if he had his own team, and you know this. Kobe was .1 short of winning the scoring title vs Durant in 2013 and LET KD win it because he prioritized resting for the playoffs. Oh and Kobe DEEPLY respected AI (said if he was 6'6 he'd be the GOAT). So in your love for AI, you have made the very same mistake you purport Skap to be making: CHERRY picking timelines to suit a pre-existing narrative (and I have AI ahead of LeBalco).
Your Kobe propaganda is getting out of hand. Of course, Kobe is going to outscore LeBron in this decade, he played 3 more seasons during the decade. This is the lengths Kobe fans will go to try to put Kobe on the same level as LeBron, total points over a decade in which LeBron didn't play 3 of the seasons, or scoring average over a cherry picked period that conveniently leaves off Kobe's least productive years. Your alpha God was a career 41% shooter in the finals. He cost the Lakers a championship in 2004 because he cared more about winning finals mvp than the actual championship. He shot 38% for the series, and 33% in the games they lost. Shaq shot 62% in that series but instead of feeding him and doing what it took to win, Kobe played hero ball and killed his team. He took 22 more shots than Shaq in that series. Without Shaq, Kobe would have 2 rings. If you look at his finals fg% for 2000, 2001, 2004, 2008, and 2010 his aggregate fg % for those 5 combined finals appearances is 39.4%. He was a finals under-performer in 5 of his 7 appearances. LeBron had 3 finals appearances where he shot 44% or under. His other 7 trips he shot 47% or higher . Kobe only shot 47% or higher in the finals once in his entire career. Lastly, Kobe was inefficient, anyone who watched games during this time knows this, so the only people you are fooling with these videos are teenagers and Kobe fan boys. Of the top 100 missed fg games in NBA History, Kobe holds 26 of those spots. How could this happen during one of the slowest paced, low scoring eras ever? Maybe because he took a lot of bad shots? If you're argument is that Kobe's fg% or efg% was at or slightly above league average and this makes him efficient, then let's compare it to other all time greats . LeBron efg%-54.5, Bird 51.4, Jordan 50.9, Dwayne Wade 49.5, Kobe 48.2. We can also look at fg%, LeBron 50.5 Jordan 49.7, Bird 49.6, Dwayne 48, Kobe 44.7. Kobe is inefficient when compared to other all time greats. Kobe is great, but he's not close to the player LeBron is or was. No amount of revisionist history videos will change this.
Kobe plays in a concurrent era. Plays against harder competition. Plays with less elite supporting casts. Plays less time. Wins more. Isn’t “close to the player Lebron is or was”. As always, agree to disagree. I see them as equivalent defenders. I give Lebron the check as a passer and Kobe was a better scorer. But the intangibles have to factor in. The winning of it all. There’s a reason Tom Brady is the easy goat and not Peyton manning or Aaron Rodgers. Winning matters. More than anything else. The rest is just revisionist history and narratives to me. But we all have opinions ultimately.
@@Kevin-jp9sy haha well thanks for watching, I appreciate it. I am going to address those two again sometime soon. But overall, you will likely disagree with many of my videos. At the heart of most of my videos is the at least one of two core tenets: Lebron is overrated and Kobe is underrated. That’s not to say Lebron isn’t great. He is. But I don’t think he’s as high as other. While Kobe, well, we know how I feel about him. I am getting to a point where I am going to exhaust the Kobe Lebron topics. So if you’re still around, maybe you will enjoy those videos more 🙏
@@skap_attack It’s getting annoying to hear him basically forgotten by NBA pundits. It makes me wonder if people never want to admit his mentality inspired many players today!
Despite countless injuries to every major joint of his body. he still pulled off an insane career with 5 rings and a 3peat without shaq or any top75 player in arguably the toughest era proving everyone wrong. Now just imagine if he'd never been seriously injured.. yea there would be no debate. he's still my goat and not ashamed to admit that one bit. the most skilled basketball player to ever play, hardest working and had the deepest bag in nba history. Thanks for the great informative video!
I always felt Kobe played in the toughest era. You mention A.I. & Shaq, but TMac, Vince, P. Pierce, J.Kidd, KG, Dirk, C. Webb, Tim Duncan, plus Lebron, Wade & Carmelo.. that’s the era he DOMINATED 😯😤
The 3 ball racks up more points. And with it being used more then ever its understandable to see points go up. I don't get comparing eras anymore just enjoy the game with how it is. And fondly reminisce on how it was. This championship was entertaining as heck this year and that's why I watch basketball.
LeFlop Steroid has played his entire career with an open lane. No hand checking, no REAL hard fouls, defensive 3 second rule, no real rim protectors waiting on him at the basket. He couldn't even finish an NBA Finals game because it was too hot in the arena, how'd he survive against the Bad Boy Pistons or Pat Riley's Knicks??? He'd be taken off the court on a stretcher with someone doing CPR on him and then busting out the defibrillator! 3....2...1.......CLEAR!