@@jeffreyhamid...it is not just current but past led BN govt and backdoor all the same hypocrite too. That's why the 1970s NEP policies should be abolish for good. No more race quota would be better. Malaysia for all Malaysia. The very reason why LKY proposed that idea and did not got well with UMNO that led to the separation by expulsion of Singapore from the federation of Malaysia in 1965. Should remove "race" from application forms and only stick to Malaysian or Non Malaysian and the same goes with housing and social welfare matters. Just like Syed Saddiq said "needs based on income bracket" and not "race based quotas"
As he explained, perhaps quite a few people who are actually in positions of power to engage him as an advisor are themselves not meritorious and therefore are not likely to have the capacity to recognise the plain truth in his words.
Kuota system gave birth to kangkung professors and kangkung graduates. Kangkung graduates become kangkung politician and kangkung leaders. Kangkung ministers support kangkung kuota system. Kangkung country will always be a kangkung country
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You're absolutely right . Our educational systems is intruded and adjusted suit to certain behalf. No wonder some of those so called intellectual, Political figure and in higher position doesn't deserve to be there in the first place ...
Prof Syed Ali, You have place common sense in most of us. Very sad to some who does not understand this simple justification. Common sense is not that common for some.
Divide & conquer is a golden formula for Malaysia...we don't have any space for meritocracy (swept that under the carpet), as long as the super race refuse the change, no matter how many PM we change, nothing change.
True. People sitting in the ministries should have the merit themselves first inorder to make the right reforms. They should be intellectuals who can think.
Dont ever dream of malaysia practicing meritocracy. If that happen,it will be snowing in malaysia! With this bunch of politikus ruling the country,the damage has been done ever since 1969!
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Thank you for speaking the truths.this is reason why Malaysia cannot reach its full potential!! Nor compete with other countries.Its like the blind leading the blind???
Benda ni xda masalah kalau org politik tak guna the right for poor malay..There is no such as ketuanan Melayu actually,just a right for malay to get to education kuota,land..
We need a truly strong visionary leader in Malaysia. Maybe our latest Agung will help to put us on the right path. Politicians especially Atuk had laid the foundation for corruption and mediocrity. Tough job to uproot.
From what I know this country & people will have a better quality life when English schools are bring back. Which have all values needed for a child to grow . Unity, race , religion not a issue
Thank you Sir, you have nailed the route cause though it may not go well with the politicians as they don’t mean what they have promised to the Rakyat before election.
Thank you, Prof., I wish I share the same amount of your optimism. But sadly, I don't. I too saw the video you mentioned about the Q&A with the PM. I was utterly disgusted and flabbergasted in sheer disbelief. But within minutes I came back to my centre and realisation. What was I thinking? We have gone so far from equitable progress as a nation, that I am now just hoping that the deterioration of our civil institution will be slower. Sad, really sad.
We should look at the. data before identifying what needs to be corrected or scrapped altogether. We are currently a nation that debates and bickers over narratives and personal experiences and anecdotes, often missing the forest for the trees.
A very good outlook at thr issue at hand Sir. We the minorities voted wholeheartedly for reform. But looks like we are getting the wrong end of the stick instead. We are waiting anxiously for things that brings justice and contentment we've been waiting for decades but does not seem to appear just yet. Yes, we wait. Hopefully not too long though. If not we have to visit the 3rd Force. Again.....
That call for brain drain. We are losing very good students to other countries who admitted them unconditionally. It is a big loss for Malaysia. When they make big achievement there, we are always the first one to claim they are ours!
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Malaysia is not investing in education. They invested on architecture of the university. The more and more university in the country with beautiful buildings means that we have a better education. That is a mistake. The system of education gone no where. We Bumiputera also feel that younger generation not necessarily to go to u. Among us Bumi also got the issues of bias and injustice. It is intersting to see the development from where we assumed as poorer country like Pakistan and India. They got early involvement in computer programming in secondary school and when they go to college, they already master the knowledge. You can check many students already got youtube channel educate about programming. Malaysian students enter college without knowing what they are doing. Not to mention apps programming that is beyond their expectation. So this is the point that we need to pay attention otherwise just keep our worthy investment somewhere else.
@fghfyklk if they really want to practice the meritocracy, then many of our politicians don't even have a merit to talk to parliament, for example. Some people who think they are clever enough, in fact are the real troublemaker in this country.
When I was in Stardard 1 Hussein Onn was Menteri Pelajaran and Dr.Suleiman Daud was its menteri when I left school. Many menteri pelajaran and "pendidikan" who come after that including a future pmx made mess of a working system. Entah apa yang dididik sampai budak-budak sekolah ada yang tak kenal Sarawak capital city pun. If there is one element in so called Bumiputera privileges that should be dismissed (long ago), it is the university admission quota. Pmx's retaliatory response to the girl was "menyakitkan hati" for non-bumis and "menyakitkan telinga" for the bumis. In the past education was made part of the country's future manpower planning. Dedication to educate our young has been long lost.
Kuota system gave birth to kangkung professors and kangkung graduates. Kangkung graduates become kangkung politician and kangkung leaders. Kangkung ministers support kangkung kuota system. Kangkung country will always be a kangkung country
I hope Prof can discuss this with PMX. May be a new policy can be introduced so that everybody is happy. PMX wants to be fair to everyone but present circumstances may not help him to do so.
Cakap memang mudah, sesiapapun boleh lakukan tetapi melaksanakannya sangat sukar dalam konteks Malaysia hari ini. Bagaimana nak berdepan dgn golongan extremisma bangsa dan agama yg saban hari mencari apa sahaja isu yg boleh mengapi2kan emosi pengikut mereka dan sokongan mereka meningkat hari ke hari. 80% daripada org melayu menyokong mereka. Cuba jelaskan kepada kami apakah strategi anda jika mengambil aleh menjadi Perdana Menteri yang berdepan dgn fenomena ini.
Bro party attack berlaku in every democracy country,in pas they use Islam as biggest thread to non bumi..The same when Rafizi use 1mdb to destroyed UMNO corrupt power..This also happened with anwar reformasi..All the party doing the same thing.Mind u to not duduk bawah tempurung.
@@ZairatulIshaak Tak jawab soalan. Aku dah lama keluar dari tempurung. Kau dah jumpa jalan keluar dari rabbit hole? Atau masih khayal dgn dongengan . Facing reality dan PMX is doing that. Wait and see.
Justice also involves examining the level playing field. This consideration plays an important role in ensuring justice. Comparing excellent students from big cities, who have access to superior facilities, to students from rural areas struggling for better study facilities, is not fair. This is a point that needs clarification.
Totally agree and that involves a great deal of study and methods of measurement. It boils down to education access, income and tech access. Which is not race exclusive. Issue with Malaysia is that we like to come out with all sorts of theories and hearsay without getting actual fine grain data, we always have a tendency to box up and categorize issues into race. Ie. Which race is impacted instead of which individuals, area, or micro communities are impacted. So much funds are poured into the cities to grow and grow but our suburbs and villages do not get as much focus. Which those are the people that requires government intervention the most.
Tq very much, Sir, for speaking and giving a voice for the victims of this unjust. It is not rocket science and yet the govt has problem understanding the social contract as far as education is concerned.
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Ini pendapatan saya 1) Sistem quota diwujudkan pada tahun 1970 apa bila taraf sosio ekonomi yang tidak seimbang apa bila ada jurang pendapatan isi rumah bumiputera yang jauh berbanding kaum lain. Masalah jurang pendapatan ini masih lagi berlaku terutama di luar bandar apabila kita melihat ramai ibu bapa dalam kalangan pendapatan rendah tidak dapat memberikan sistem sokongan pendidikan seperti kelas tambahan selepas sekolah (Kumon, Eye Level, etc) dan kelas kemahiran lain seperti (Musik, Bahasa, Sukan). Semestinya pelajar yang mendapat bimbingan sokongan dengan lebih banyak akan mendapat keputusan atau peluang lebih baik dalam merit ke universiti. 2) Sistem sekolah berasaskan kaum haruslah ditamatkan dahulu kerana jelas fasiliti dan bantuan kewangan dari PIBG memberikan kelebihan pembelajaran di sesuatu sekolah. Semua silibus bahasa dan subjek teras harus diselarikan mengikut keperluan semasa. Selepas itu ianya dilaksanakan semua universiti haruslah menamatkan sistem quota. 3) Penting untuk mengingatkan kepada semua rakyat Malaysia terutama ibu bapa di luar bandar dan keluarga miskin di bandar supaya menekankan aspek ilmu, kemahiran, dan berkerja keras dalam jiwa anak anak supaya Malaysia menjadi negera yang kompetitif dan maju.
Sir it happened to me in the 85's when a grade 3 got into uni and not me with a better qualification and no wonder now there are many unqualified people in this country
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I used to hv the same opinion on merit in education however when you go to the ground to see the problems facing students in less unfortunate societies ( mostly Malays) whose parents could not afford tution but did fairly well on their own i start to understand. I hv seen those who came struggling with poverty and excel when given the chance while most upper middle income students in cities were lavish with tution in every subject. I now see the fairness meant was not for what merit cannot speak for ... But i really hv to agree that in parliament we need those who are worthy and deserve to be there.
Am utterly baffled. This gentleman obviously comes from a socio economic and educational background where he would understand the subject matter to its details. Yet, this thing has been going on 5 decades or thereabouts, and to bring it up now, when the rot is deep into the woodwork and termites invaded everywhere, is bewildering. First of all, how many who agree with him will say this same thing publicly? How many have said it publicly last 50 years from the Malay community? Should not thousands or tens of thousands of educated people have been alarmed well before now at the rot and agitated, but how many have? Second, in order for Anwar to even begin to consider it, he would have to be someone with a liberal mind frame, and that he certainly is not, and two he must be a reformer, like Ataturk was, and he is a million miles away from that - Ataturk were he to return would be shocked to see what has become of his beloved country -, which simply means that reforms can only work if the underlying substance, the population and the systems are equally liberal and modern, which manifestly is NOT the case here. (Europe sidelined the power of the Church as an essential first step and replaced superstition and dogma with science and evidence, as the foundation upon which a modern society would advance). A liberal person and society is arrived at by hard and long and painful work spanning centuries. There will be very very few, even in KL who would pass the test if conducted by those from the liberal west.The people who attended the Coldplay rock concert will many of them happily and determinedly vote for extremists in elections, so what does that tell us about what is a liberal here? He is shocked by the Dewan Rakyat members but they are a perfect representation of the constituents, so why is he shocked? The nation is already embarked on to the next phase and that will be a Malays' only Federal Govt, which should come to pass by the end of this decade, and the education system will certainly be revamped, just that it will not be as this person might wish it and while his annoyance and frustration are palpable at how things are, its possible he himself knows how few of his own ilk actually would join him to remonstrate in public.
Very true, well said. DSAI cannot be trusted at all to even show his intention of carrying out reformasi in education system as his wishes has become reformati now! Many non.. will not support him anymore in next GE by Not Voting IF there’s no other third force choice.. simply because he has shown himself more Islamic and openly defended hamas as not a terrorist group.
Just went for my son graduation and out of 8000 graduated almost half given 3'rd class degree and that also might due lowering passing marks. Just imagine each students cost government about 80k x 4000 totaling 32 million just for a university. Better to train this students for skill and technical rather than just give them a paper (degree) value about RM1,500-RM1800 in job market similar to foreign lab our income.
Our local education system has become worst day by day. No wonder some many parents send their children to the international schools and private colleges.
the student didnt say she is one of the top students in malaysia. in the session with the pm, she asked why her friends (bumis) who got lower grades than her but have been offered to pursue their education in universities. the question is which universities she and her friends applied? different universities have different competition levels among students. choose wisely.
What if someone scored 100/100 in a subject yet he get 60/100 by the examiner based on his name isn't so&so race? What if the examiner give all students the same race 100/100 eventhough the actual scored is 40/100, 50/100, 60/100 due to them being the same race as the examiner? Fair or unfair? If this happened in any country, that country is doomed.
There is no issue if we understand what the lowest creterion or score in metric system. Once we’ve got clear picture about the scores of metric system, then only we can tell that Bumi student which was accused has lower gred than her had fulfilled the minimim requirement of metric score or not.
Sadly, this profound message will fall on deaf years! Unless the people specifically a certain section wake up. This current system is not helping anyone, if it is, it’s only one section & at the end of the day, that section will be the biggest losers.
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And they wonder why the young people are moving away from the country. If our institutions are so good , all should do their degrees locally and studying overseas on scholarship should be for post graduate studies. As it is there are cases of scholarship students overseas who don't even complete their courses and then don't return More polytechnic and vocational institutions should be built for training in skills. It's pointless being a university graduate if one has no chance of employment.
This quota system has been there for ages since the 80’s. It has not changed since in fact has gotten worse. The new government will fail if they do not recognize this and neglect the reform
I don't totally agree with you...meritocracy can only be implemented once the facilities in all schools are on par otherwise it will be unfair to those who study in dilapitated school where there is limited access to internet or teaching aids or their school is😅 in the rural area where they have to spend much of their energy coming n going to school.
IMO, what should start off is slow, very slow removing the quato. We can't remove it overnite. This will give time for them to prepare. Above all, the matriculation study which is a duplicate of Form 6, also need to remove.
Government universities should give places in various courses as follows. Malays 65% Other Bumi 5% Chinese 20% Indians 7% Others. 2% This is fair. Each group should have meritocracy within it.
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If all those admitted are meritorious across the board and at par with each other, then yes. But if the government has to assign different cut off entry points for each group, then it's unfair to the students and damaging for then universities and the country in the long run.
The Greatest Investment Malaysia Can Make is to bring education to the masses, and not the select few who have “merit”. Education for all, and lifelong learning. Even in “advanced” countries, educational standards have fallen . Except for the Ivy League or top research based institutions, there are many universities which are paper- churning (degrees) mills. What is needed in the real world are people who can solve problems. Even those who did not produce good academic results can “excel” at something. Give late bloomers a chance. How? Short bite-size content, delivered through the internet. The technology is begging for a revolution in how “education” is delivered. Now everyone can fly, Now everyone can learn. Life-long learning for all is the way to be relevant in today’s fast changing world, not trotting out your “Oxford “ standard degree from umpteen years ago, which has gathered as much dust as your brain.
I believe there is many edu options for non malay in malaysia. Many western uni in msia like notthingham, swinburne herriot watt etc. Go there la. Just pay a bit more.
Professor, you seemed to foresee that eventually some malaysian university graduates would end up actually doing manual jobs that do not require accreditation, in some countries overseas, at the rate things are ongoing.
Indeed. . No matter how high level of educations they have, they all the same just mingling on the 2R issues for the past decades.. with the same motives just to hold strongly to the special privileges they have all the time with No Ending.
